Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters

feralwolf16 said:Look, it didn't turn into a party atmosphere just because of that. It changed because suddenly everyone in the city wants to be part of the NFL Ultras because of all the good stuff they do. As for how you carry yourself within the group—well, that's a whole different conversation. Honestly, the best thing right now would be if everything just turned back into some big festival or a neighborhood block party where people just celebrate, and everything gets ruined again for anyone who doesn't want to "travel everywhere blindly" just for the sake of it. That's not the vibe. Love isn't just about throwing a party; those are just mindless antics. If I went into the details of why that would open a massive Pandora's box, I won't... but honestly, there's a much bigger sense of joy right now in how people are showing love in every single neighborhood and corner of the city. Considering most of these folks are in their mid-20s to 30s, I have to wonder: where were they all when they were toddlers? I get the 18 or 19-year-olds—they just got swept up in it. But people in their late 20s? Where were they back when we only had 50 people traveling to away games, or when the North Stand averaged 500 people? We used to hit 1,000 and it was absolute madness! And that wasn't even that long ago, and everyone was old enough to fall in love with Liverpool FC back then. Did the love just die because there were only 50 of us enjoying the atmosphere back then?

The idea that Liverpool FC is the foundation of everything and comes before the NFL Ultras has never been in question... but man, the guy just phrased it poorly. He’ll realize certain things as he gets older, but his intentions aren't bad at all😉, that's what I truly believe...

I agree with everything you wrote. God forbid we go back to the era of hooligans and clowns like that😉
We're really going to dwell on him just being bad with his words?😁

Kevin Cox said:Nice one, genius. Truly impressive work.
It’s such an absolute pleasure breathing the same air as someone with this level of intellect.

Why are you tearing him down? The difference between you two is simple—he actually does work for the group. He’s the reason you can even show up today to stand in the east stands with the choreo and flares he and his friends spent all month organizing. Meanwhile, you’ll probably roll up five hours before kickoff, grab a cheap beer, throw on a straw hat, pass out in the park with a cigarette behind your ear, and then—once your hat is literally on fire—some buddy who’s had way too much to drink will douse you with a beer just to put you out. Then, you’ll try to lecture everyone from the east stands because you're some tactical mastermind who knows all about formations and plays. But this "idiot," as you call him, is actually checking if the strikers are ready, if the megaphones work, or if the flags are set. That’s the only difference between you two. I remember an old debate back in the day about whether we'd rather kick the rival fans out of their shoes or see Liverpool FC crush the Red Sox—I won't even bother listing the poll results, any real fan already knows the answer.🙂 The problem is, I still care, and thank God for that.🙂

Melissa Reyes45 said:Why are you coming at him like that? There’s a massive difference between you two. This guy is out there actually doing the work for the group—organizing the flags and the flares from the East Stand months in advance with his buddies. Meanwhile, you show up five hours before kickoff, grab a Budweiser, throw on a straw hat, and pass out in the park with a cigarette tucked behind your ear. Then, while your hat's literally smoldering, some buddy who’s had way too much to drink spills a beer on you just to wake you up. After that, you head over to the East Stand to lecture everyone because you think you're some tactical genius who knows all about formations. But this "idiot," as you call him, is the one checking if the percussion is ready, if the megaphones work, and if the banners are set. That’s the real difference. It reminds me of this huge argument I remember having back in my younger days...Whether we're talking about kicking those Rangers Supporters Club guys out of their boots or just watching Liverpool FC absolutely demolish the Red Sox, I’m not even going to bother reading the poll results aloud. Every single fan already knows exactly how this is going to go down! 🙂 The only issue is that I'm still feeling this way, and thank God for that. 🙂

Look, any sane person would tell you they’d much rather see those Rangers Supporters Club guys get taken down a few times. It’s just common sense. 😁
You can't even compare the two. Like, seriously. Would they rather see Chelsea win the Champions League or see Liverpool FC take home the trophy? It’s not even a fair fight.☕

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Melissa Reyes45 said:Why are you being so hard on the guy?? The real difference between the two of you is what he actually does for the group, making sure you can even show up today to see the banners in the East Stand and the flares that he and his friends have been working so hard to organize since last month, whereas you'll probably just roll up five hours before kickoff with a bottle of cheap beer, wearing a straw hat, and napping in the park with a cigarette behind your ear, only to have some buddy who’s had way too much to drink pour a beer over you to wake you up while your hat is burning! And then, once you're awake, you'll start acting like some big-shot tactical genius spreading wisdom across the stands because you know all about formations and strategy, while this "idiot" you're talking about is busy checking if the megaphones work or if the flags are ready—that's the only difference between you two... I remember a debate from back in my younger days where people were arguing whether they'd rather kick the Rangers Supporters Club out of town or just see Liverpool FC crush the Red Sox, and honestly, I won't even tell you the poll results because every fan already knows 🙂 the real issue is why I still care so much, but thank God 🙂

If he stays at it for ten years, then nobody has any right to say anything, but if he spends two years obsessing over whether the signs are straight or if his shirt is tucked in properly when he walks out into the sun, then he's probably the kind of person you're actually talking about.

Alexander Thomas4 said:When I’m watching Liverpool FC for 90+ minutes, my goal is to give the guys on the pitch maximum support. I'm not interested in screaming at Jerry Jones and his crew; it’s pointless. That won't change anything.
So, what? You expect the Hell Angels to fix the mess that you and your squad can't handle? That sounds like a "you" problem.
The Los Angeles crowd and the Rousseau types are based in Chicago anyway, so why don't you guys go ahead and settle it? After all, you're the ones standing on the front lines for Chicago and the US, right?...
Just so we're clear, when you respond to me, remember: I'm not necessarily a die-hard Hell Angel, I'm just a Liverpool FC supporter.
Jerry Jones is a much smaller issue for me than he is for you.
I couldn't care less about Real Madrid or the national team; I only care about our Liverpool FC. And honestly, there are so many struggles surrounding this club that Jerry Jones feels irrelevant. Once Liverpool FC gets back on its feet in two or three years—fully aligned with the Hell Angels and the rest of the supporters—all the issues you guys are struggling with will resolve themselves.
But first, Liverpool FC needs to recover from twenty years of corrupt management.
Right now, the bigger headaches for me aren't the federation or Jerry Jones, but Alfirevic and Reic.

Just keep waiting for the neighbors to turn off their lights, oh wise one.

Listen guys, use your heads. I truly wish you nothing but luck, so please don't fall for the provocations coming straight out of Jerry Jones' kitchen... You stood up against him for a reason, so stick to your guns instead of letting someone like Matt from the Snake Pit ruin the game for you... Those pit bulls are just waiting for the signal...
We were the target yesterday and you saw how that went down; today, it could easily be YOU... Tomorrow, it’ll just be everyone else left behind like this...
This whole mess has escalated so much regarding the fan movement—though I'm honestly not even sure what their main goal is supposed to be at this point—that I wonder if we'll ever recover...
Good luck, guys, and stay smart!

(It’s enough if your voices are heard loud and clear. If you're going to call out Jerry Jones, my advice is to leave the minority groups out of it... He'll catch on eventually anyway, and there won't be any legal trouble for that...)🙂
There, just my honest opinion. I hope I haven't offended anyone...
Best regards!

I honestly don't get who you guys are trying to spite by claiming your cliques matter more than the club itself.
Is that really how a "superfan" thinks? That being a bigger supporter means you get to throw more tantrums instead of actually doing something useful for the group?

The schedule shows plenty of support for the group, yet somehow everyone is still demanding even more from them???

Not once mentioned Jerry Jones the Gypsy?
Fan loyalty is officially dead and buried 😢

Jerry Gray5 said:I don't get why you guys are being so stubborn about saying the supporter groups matter more than the club itself?
Is that really how a die-hard fan thinks—that getting more heated just means you care more, rather than actually doing something useful for the group?

Giving tons of effort to the group, but then acting even bigger than the group itself???

Look, I'm not trying to be difficult or spiteful toward anyone—I'm just speaking my mind here.
That's just who I am—you know me well enough to realize that if someone isn't sucking up to people or playing favorites, that's just my way of being.
I’m not going to sit here and brag about my history or everything I’ve done for the cause; anyone who actually knows me gets it.

As for you claiming Liverpool FC is more important to you than the Hell Angels—honestly, you might want to reconsider that one. You've proven yourself a hundred times over by being the guy who misses the actual game because he's too busy watching some random tenth-rate movie, barely catching two plays on the field (and hey, I've been there too...). That's plenty of proof for me.

If Liverpool FC were truly my number one priority, I'd be at every single match in the stands, just soaking it all in—the tension, the vibes, whatever—just enjoying the game.

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The shots look solid, but I’m honestly lost—why the hell are we looking at two bars on this zoom?

Jonathan Lewis3 said:The photos look alright, I suppose, but I can't quite wrap my head around why this guy needs a 2x zoom on those two poles...

I honestly can't tell who's actually leading the chants—any chance you could clear that up for me? ☕

Jonathan Lewis3 said:The photos look solid—I mean, they really do—but I’m scratching my head over why this guy used a 2x zoom on those bars... it just feels a bit off, doesn't it?

Just for a profile picture.

Here’s a shot captured at the exact moment we were pelted him with paperwork

If anyone reading this needs an apology—forgive us—but things just got a little out of hand 🤣

Jonathan Lewis3 said:The photos look alright, but I don't get why he's zooming in on two random guys in the crowd...

Exactly! It's like nobody actually knows who the leaders of the cheering sections are anyway. Honestly, if the cops really wanted to investigate, they'd have photos of us taking a dump in a bathroom stall.

So look, it’s not Teldat's fault, it’s not the donkey's fault, and it's definitely not the hat-wearers either. Now suddenly the whole GROUP is being blamed for Palestine? Seriously? Not once did anyone point the finger at Jerry Jones the Gypsy. Is this what we call "ultras solidarity" now? Who's actually responsible this time? 🙄

Dennis Davis97 said:Not one single mention of Jerry Jones the Gypsy? Seriously...
Fan mentality? It’s gone down the drain... honestly, just completely lost in the gutter. 😢

Main thing is, most of these idiots are already puffing out their chests, acting like they’re actually gonna say something to him... 🤣 Look, nobody asked you guys to spend the entire game taking shots at him... honestly. A couple of well-timed jabs here and there would've been more than enough!
As long as things stay this way, you shouldn't be surprised by anything anymore... honestly.

None of you ultra fans will ever reach that level, no matter how hard you try to spin it differently.
You guys are just pathetic.

silentviper22 said:Not once. Not even one single time did anyone stand up to Jerry Jones the Gypsy. I mean, seriously, is this supposed to be some kind of fan solidarity or just pure ultras loyalty? I guess we'll never know. 🙄

Absolute rock bottom.
Look, nobody is saying we should have ignored supporting Liverpool FC last night or anything like that. But man, just once—just one single damn time—when the entire stadium roars against Jerry Jones the Gypsy, I feel like we should at least show some solidarity. Just as a gesture, you know? Maybe.
What a joke. Seriously.