Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters

wanderingcobra18 said:so you're basically saying we need James Dean to write this for you now:

if you say it's a done deal, then damn it, it's a done deal...😁😁

I'm putting my money on that.

😁 just give me a decent joke today, for crying out loud...

steeltrucker said:😁 come on, give me a winner today, for crying out loud...

Come on, wanderingcobra18, hit me with a 5-to-1 underdog pick...😁😁

steeltrucker said:Until the general assembly meets, let's just stop commenting on the same old nonsense and the same people—once that happens, everything changes. You don't need an invitation to the meeting; being a member of the organization is the only requirement. Show up, state your business, and give us your opinion. After that? Well, we’ll listen to whoever gets elected—it doesn't matter who it is. AMEN.

Lately, everyone seems to think they're some kind of genius, but there's nothing behind it. People have been lurking on this forum for weeks ever since the recent shake-ups, doing nothing but whining like a bunch of toddlers.

Let's focus our energy on taking action against the league leadership instead of obsessing over these "private" petty dramas until the assembly. When you get there, say what you have to say—complain, cry, vent all you want... but once the vote is cast, we stand together behind whoever is chosen. Let's just wish them luck and move on.

placidheron16 said:Lately, everyone’s acting like a genius, but honestly? They aren't doing anything else! I've been following this board for weeks since all the changes went down, and people are just whining constantly, like a bunch of toddlers...

Let's focus on taking action against the US Soccer Federation instead of messing around with "private" drama before the assembly. Show up at the meeting and speak your mind—complain and cry all you want. Then, let's stand together once the new leadership is chosen. Good luck to whoever gets the job.

Preach!!

wanderingcobra18, hit me with a ten-leg parlay for a few grand... just make sure to include that one sucker game that'll screw me over. 😁

I honestly don't know what to say about Sevic anymore—it’s just getting ridiculous at this point. I’ve been following the team through everything, the highs and the lows, and watching how things are being handled lately... man, it just feels off. You see people online acting like everything is fine, or they're totally losing their minds over nothing, but if you actually sit back and look at the big picture, the direction we're headed isn't exactly what I'd call "winning." It’s frustrating because I care, okay? I really do. I’m not just some casual fan who shows up when the wins are easy—I'm here for the grind. But right now, the vibes are just messy, and it feels like there's a massive disconnect between what's happening on the field and what the leadership thinks is going on. We need more than just empty promises or flashy PR moves; we need actual substance. Just my two cents, but I think we're all feeling that tension. kaže:
It’s all true—every single word of it.
Yeah, let's get it. Once the new leadership finally gets settled in—and let's face it, that's usually half the battle right there—that’s when we really need to see the community come back together. It’s all about getting that collective spirit firing on all cylinders again once the dust settles on the management changes.Honestly, I just want things to get back to how they used to be—real socializing, you know? Not this whole situation where everyone just shuts themselves away behind their own four walls.

Let’s go, NFL Ultras in Miami—let's get it. Honestly, let everyone else just rot for all I care—all that trash people are posting about the Miami faithful being "done for" or whatever other garbage they're spewing. It’s total nonsense. We’re doing this purely to spite those losers who only give a damn about the bottom line—those corporate types who see nothing but dollar signs—and to stick it right in the faces of all those ego-trippers out there.
Look, I’m telling you—we can be stronger than we’ve ever been. Seriously. If we actually pull this off, there isn't a single thing standing in our way.

You live for the Kansas City Chiefs and make a Pilgrimage to every single away game.

Wait—is anyone actually paying attention here? Seriously?

The chants just keep cycling back and forth—flares going up left and right—while the groups trade insults. The BBB are shouting "Cowardly losers" at the NFL Ultras, who immediately fire back with "Traitorous scum." Is this really how we're doing things now? What kind of absolute clown behaves like this? Seriously—who does that even think they are?"With fists, feet, bottles, and flares—anything to go all out for our Kansas City Chiefs." The flares just keep going.

😂🙂

Fan mentality and that whole die-hard mindset—it’s pretty straightforward. If you get it, you get it. If you don't, you probably never will. That's just how it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXsiufdQCkE 😉

... events from around the 80th minute...

Peace, silence—at least in my immediate vicinity—no chaos, no flares, just us standing there quietly, not even singing, when suddenly—our "peacekeepers" charge in, our "security" tearing through everything in their path. No one understood how or why, at least not me and the few friends nearby who were just watching the game civilly at that moment. Since I’ve long believed in staying loyal, I had to act foolishly and somewhat traitorously (@VP and HU) to stage something I hoped would go smoothly, though it took longer than expected.

I pulled a napkin out of my fanny pack, wiped down my seat, and sat back down instead of running like the rest of the crowd. A cop approached me with threats, and I told him I just wanted to leave the stadium because I had no intention of fighting—especially since I have a game against Miami this Sunday—but then he went to swing his baton at me. Right then, an older NFL Ultra jumps in, saying, "Can't you see he's just a kid? Let him go..." but the officer ignored him. Seconds later, a squad leader arrives, grabs that same cop by the back of his vest, and literally tosses him toward the lower stands, shouting: "Are you insane?! We finally have someone peaceful in the stands, and you want to beat him?!" He told me he’d escort me down, which he did. You could hear shouts from that same "hero in blue" about how half of them might lose their jobs—I don't buy it, but hey, hope dies last. As I was heading down, I saw a scene to the left where two officers were separating a father from his ten-year-old son and started beating the boy with batons. It made me wonder what they'll be doing when they graduate to murder if they're treating a child like this. Once they "finished" with him, they offered him "assistance" from the paramedics. Honestly, I can't wrap my head around how people like that exist—beating innocent people—are they even sane?!

Ran into this article...🙂🙂🙂

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Nothing beats that moment when someone meets the US police for the first time and just stands there totally shocked.🙂

Jose Fox7 said:.

As I was heading down from the stands, I caught a glimpse of two cops on my left side separating a father from his ten-year-old son. They actually started hitting the kid with batons. It made me wonder—if this is how they treat a child, what are they capable of doing to someone else? Once they were "finished," they actually offered him medical assistance. I honestly don't get how people can beat innocent people like that. Is it even sane?

Just stumbled upon this article... 🙂🙂🙂

I want to see if our fans are actually tough when it matters. It’s easy to complain about "this and that" online, but how many of you are willing to be constructive and put in actual effort to fight for justice? Does anyone know who the father is whose ten-year-old was beaten by the riot squad? If we can track him down, I’ll personally organize a media interview for him.
I have nothing against the police; most of the time they just do their jobs. But there is no way a ten-year-old was causing trouble or posing any kind of threat.
So, if you want real justice for that senseless beating on Saturday, find the man whose child was attacked. Thanks.

Jerry Patel66 said:Let's see how tough these fans actually are. It's easy to sit around and whine about "this and that," but how many of you can actually be constructive? How many will put in the effort to fight for justice? Does anyone here actually know the father whose ten-year-old was beaten by riot police? If we can track him down and arrange for him to give a statement to the press, I'll handle the organization myself.
I’ve got nothing against the police—most of the time they’re just doing their jobs, but nobody is going to convince me that a ten-year-old kid was causing trouble or posing any kind of threat.
If you actually want justice for that senseless beating on Saturday, find the guy whose kid was hit. Thanks.

😕

Casey Gomez3 said:😕

Which part isn't making sense to you? I'm happy to clear it up. Or am I supposed to be a hypocrite like the people being called out?

Jerry Patel66 said:Which part are you struggling with? Do I really need to spell it out, or am I supposed to be a hypocrite like the people you're calling out?

I don't get it either. Care to enlighten me?

"I have nothing against the police; most of the time they just do their jobs."

For a second there, it sounded ironic to me, but clearly I was wrong. So, please, explain to me—where exactly is the police force doing its job?

At the games?
In Miami, there are at least two robberies every single day, and I can tell you that in 90% of those cases, they never even find the culprits!
So, I don't follow your logic. Please, explain where they are actually performing their duties?

Mark Carter10 said:I don't get it either. Care to clarify?

"I have nothing against the police; most of the time they're just doing their jobs."

At one point, that sounded pretty ironic to me, but since you don't see it that way, help me out—where exactly is the police force doing its job?

At the games?
In Miami, there are at least two robberies a day, and I can tell you that in 90% of cases, they don't even find the suspects!
So, I really don't follow your logic. Please explain where they are actually performing their duties?

Fair enough. Here’s my take:

The police usually do their jobs. Doctors, teachers, bakers—they all mostly do their jobs too, so I won't list everyone else... Most people stick to their profession. In my opinion, only those who are constantly looking for a fight would try to slap a blanket label on an entire profession.

Don't get me wrong—I've personally dealt with some unfairness from the authorities at games or around the stadium myself. But it never crosses my mind to get angry and claim that everyone is the same. They aren't. I know that from experience.
Let's not be hypocrites. Let's look back 30 years and ask ourselves why the police are even at the games now. Is it because we were handing out flowers to each other? Give me a break...
Every consequence has a cause. I vividly remember the days when you could do almost anything in the stands or around the stadium area. No one was complaining then. Now that the opposition (the police) has rallied, organized, and pushed back—suddenly, for the last few years, everyone is crying, whining, filing lawsuits, and shouting about human rights.
We're all being hypocritical. We got what we asked for. The fan movement in America is nearing its end. It's dying because nothing was done when it mattered—three or four years ago when repression was already looming, and we actually had the numbers and smart people within our group organizations. Back then, anyone suggesting we act was called paranoid. I remember those meetings well. Now, suddenly, it turns out the paranoia was reality. Anyway, I've gone on long enough—yes, the police usually do their jobs.
Sure, fans are responsible for about 70% of police reactions. What a performance. All this drama... where did the police even enter the picture regarding fans? It likely happened for a reason over time. For the other 30%, the fans aren't to blame at all; those are the cases involving serious misconduct by officers.
Like that incident with that kid getting beaten on Saturday...
But let's not be hypocrites. There is far too much of it.

Are those the new ones from last year that don't catch fire 🙂?

Jerry Patel66 said:Fair enough. Look at it this way:

Police usually just do their jobs. Same goes for doctors, teachers, bakers, etc.—I won't drone on forever. Most people are just doing what they're supposed to do. Only people who are completely out of their minds would try to slap a label on an entire profession. That’s my take, anyway.

Don't get me wrong—I've personally dealt with my fair share of unfairness from the cops during or around matches. But it doesn't occur to me to get angry and claim everyone is the same. They aren't. I know that from firsthand experience.
Let's not be hypocrites. Let's look back thirty years and ask ourselves: why is there even police presence in the stands? Because we were handing out flowers to each other? Give me a break...
Every consequence has a cause. I vividly remember when you could practically do whatever you wanted in the stands, or even around them. No one was whining back then. Now that the opposition (the police) has rallied, organized, and struck back—suddenly, over the last few years, everyone is crying, wailing, filing lawsuits, and shouting about human rights.
We’re all being hypocrites here. We asked for this, and now we're getting it. The supporter movement in America is nearing its end because nothing was done when it actually mattered—three or four years ago, when repression was looming and the groups actually had the numbers and the smart people in charge to organize. Back then, anyone suggesting we defend ourselves against group shutdowns was called paranoid. I remember those meetings well. Now, suddenly, miracle of miracles, that "paranoia" has become reality. I'll leave it at that—yes, police usually just do their jobs.
Sure—fans are responsible for 70% of police reactions. What a performance. What a joke. How did the police even get dragged into the conversation regarding fans? It happened for a reason over time, I suppose. For that remaining 30%, the fans aren't at fault at all, and those are the cases involving serious legal violations by officers.
Like that example of that kid being beaten on Saturday...
But let's not be hypocrites... and there is plenty of hypocrisy to go around.

They usually do their job, sure, but specifically toward the fans. No one complains or cries—well, at least not me. They stick strictly to one part of the law that needs enforcing, while ignoring the rest....

They target us because we're the weakest link in the country and because we've already been convicted in advance (by both the public and the justice system).

Ehhh, you gave me a partial answer.🙂 😉

If anyone happens to be heading toward or passing through Chicago after the games this Friday or Saturday, shoot me a DM.

Mark Carter10 said:They’re usually just doing their jobs, sure, but they tend to target the fans. I don't hear anyone complaining—well, at least not me. They strictly enforce one specific part of the law while completely ignoring the rest...

They go after us because we're seen as the weakest link in the country and because we've already been judged by both the public and the legal system.

Ehhh, so you gave me a partial answer there. 🙂 😉

Actually, man, people do complain and cry about it quite a bit... you know how it goes. I'm not saying you're the one whining, but there's plenty of it happening everywhere.
Sorry if my previous response felt incomplete; that wasn't intentional. I must have missed something.