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Jesse Campbell said:Folks, you ABSOLUTELY need to get a lawyer. If anyone’s wondering why—hey, feel free to ask anyone who’s ever dealt with a year or two of being banned from stadiums. It is worth every single penny. ☕
Sorry, but I was actually expecting a real suggestion when you tagged me—not just some baseless trolling, which seems to be your only Joker argument, honestly. That goes for the other guy too.🙂
I was talking specifically about the appeals process for a misdemeanor—I'm definitely not trying to wade into criminal territory.
I get what you're trying to say, but when it comes down to money and paying up—well, obviously everyone is going to look out for themselves, trying to get the best outcome and pay as little as possible.
So, if someone's appeal has already been granted, why try to scare people with lawyers? Why would anyone even answer for anything else when everything is decided by evidence? Just like in a regular courtroom, without proof, there's no guilt—you can't just use empty, tired clichés. What's the point?
One more thing—this might actually be helpful for someone.
Section 17, Subsection 1 of the Law Enforcement Officers' Bill of Rights
Section 17, Subsection 3—a police officer MUST identify themselves.
Article 120-
1—Decisions, summons, and other written documents are generally sent via mail. Service can also be handled by an official from the court or the body overseeing the misdemeanor proceedings that issued the decision.
2—The court or the administrative body handling a misdemeanor case can also give a summons for a main hearing or other notices verbally to the person present, along with instructions regarding the consequences of failing to appear.
A summons given this way will be noted in the record, which the summoned person will sign—unless that summons is already part of the main hearing transcript.
In that case, service is considered valid.
3—Written documents are served to individuals in person at their home address, their place of employment, or another location where they are highly likely to be found.
Article 116-
1—Any person who is a Victim of a misdemeanor, or believes they are, and the proceedings aren't being moved forward based on their specific complaint, is a participant in the misdemeanor proceedings (I won't bore you listing them all, like traffic violations, disturbing the peace, etc.).
2—The Victim has the right to submit a request to the court for the conclusion of the proceedings...
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Article 184-
Subsection 1—A published verdict MUST be written and sent out within one month of publication.
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It’s pretty clear that Laura Mitchell87 mixed up the rules for misdemeanor and criminal proceedings—where hiring a lawyer would actually make sense (though clearly, some guys here can barely afford a fine, let alone a lawyer... though it's a different story if a supporters' group has its own counsel). Anyway, it all depends on what kind of trouble we're talking about. Not to get too philosophical, but that's the gist. If anything is unclear, feel free to ask.🙂
