2010 British GP - Silverstone (July 11)

I honestly don't get it—how can these drivers, who are getting paid absolute mountains of cash, turn around and start trashing their own teams and teammates just because one single thing didn't go their way...
...I mean, who's actually footing the bill here?
And I’m not even just talking about this whole messy situation between Sebastian Vettel and Mark Webber right now.
Look, I can wrap my head around the legends—the guys with untouchable resumes who can say whatever they want (like how Fernando Alonso used to roll)—but I just can't wrap my mind around the rest of them.
I always think back to Rubens Barrichello after that infamous race in Austria when he was told—just once!—that he had to let Michael Schumacher past. And what does Barrichello do? He waits until the last fifty meters and then starts throwing a massive tantrum against his own team, acting all shocked, like... who does he think he is? He knows damn well he's the number two driver and that he’s pocketing 7 million bucks for it—he wouldn't see half that kind of money anywhere else. For that kind of paycheck, he should probably be asking, "Hey, do you want me to do anything else, too?"
Man, looking at all this... Flavio Briatore is the man! With him, you know exactly who's in charge. Even if it means driving straight into a wall.
At the end of the day, you just do what the boss tells you to do.
Long live Flavio!

Emily Lee45 said:I honestly find it difficult to believe some of the things being said here. I am just watching everyone tear into Mark Webber like this... Come on, please, give me just three specific instances from this year where he actually behaved like a dirty driver or intentionally sabotaged his own teammate.
What we witnessed this weekend is undeniable proof that the entire team is playing favorites to ensure Sebastian Vettel wins, and frankly, I won't even dignify those rumors regarding the front wing... It is pure idiocy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVyJe2f1mjc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buArr...x=0&playnext=1
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It seems you haven't quite grasped the point I am trying to make.

Mark Webber is a reckless driver who looks ready to force anyone off the track if they dare try to overtake him. To my eyes, in those high-pressure moments, he isn't even thinking about safety; his only focus is finding any way possible to eliminate his competitor.

However, since it has become patently obvious that the preference lies with Sebastian Vettel—and even Hem over at McLaren—I find myself rooting for Mark Webber and Gumbek.

Nicole Reyes97 said:Just read that 🤣
and honestly, I had to laugh out of pure spite. 😢The part about their starts was spot on—they were absolute garbage. But him claiming they’re championship contenders? 🤦What is he even talking about? 🤣

Who knows, maybe next race Luc will go have a little chat with Jenson Button, and suddenly Fernando Alonso gets a fighting chance. 😬 🤣

Who can tell with that guy? He's a total wildcard; he's definitely cooking up something crazy. 😳

If nothing else, at least this season isn't boring. 🤣

Roger Wright94 said:I have to disagree with you there—we just see this differently.

Personally, I feel the issues started right after Lewis Hamilton had that incredible season opener.
If you're talking about technical specs, sure—but what about the crew in the garage?

What about the garage? 🤷

Dammit, surely even the biggest skeptic has to admit—after three years of stellar driving—that Lewis is genuinely fast and talented. It isn't about "special treatment"; he was truly competitive against Fernando Alonso.🤷

mistybear87 said:it was pretty obvious in 😬

and it’s even written right there on the pit pass—he was talking about Sebastian Vettel 🤣🤣🤣

Honestly, I’m actually surprised Sebastian Vettel didn't just slow down after "holding his racing line" and accidentally shove Mark Webber into the grass. You know, while leaving him just enough room for exactly one tire on the asphalt.😬🤣

stormybadger8 said:who knows, maybe next race Luc will go have a little chat with Jenson Button, and then suddenly Alonso might actually get a decent shot at something😬🤣

honestly, who can tell? that guy is a total wildcard—he’s definitely cooking something up behind the scenes somewhere😳

if nothing else, this season isn't going to be boring, that's for sure🤣

🤣 😂
that guy has way too much to say—he's got a mouth on him. instead of just keeping his head down and fixing things, he's out here running his mouth constantly. 😳 okay, look, being 47 points down isn't totally impossible given how the scoring works now, but with all the mistakes he and the team are making, they could easily just spiral downward. I mean, hey, if he wins a race soon, great—but let's not act like he's some kind of god or anything.

you know what I mean? I bet Alonso will start giving Mark Webber advice on how to handle teammate drama. since Alonso knows exactly what it's like to deal with being picked on... 🤣 man, this season is definitely gonna be anything but boring🙏

I can only imagine the look on the faces of the Ferrari executives when they finally tally up the losses at the end of the season and realize just how much they hemorrhaged money on this whole Spanish project...🙄

I’m honestly hoping to see Fernando Alonso get back into that podium fight over the next few races. Given how much Red Bull is dominating right now, any extra points McLaren can scrape together will be vital 👍

James Smith50 said:I can only imagine the look on the faces of the Ferrari executives when they sit down at the end of the year, run all the numbers, and realize exactly how much they’ve lost by sticking with this whole Spanish project...🙄

I’ll be right there, laughing my head off when that finally happens.

Nicole Reyes97 said:you know what I'm thinking? Alonso is going to start giving Webber advice on teammate dynamics. Since Alonso knows all too well what it's like to be bullied 🤣 well, this season definitely won't be boring 🙏

probably already is🤣

honestly, Webber reminds me way too much of Alonso with how he acts. if he can't get past his teammate, he just digs in, pushes them off the track, or if he can't do that, he does it in the pits 🤣, punctures a tire, just goes at it 😳

and while he's at it, he'll whine to anyone who listens about being treated like the Number 2 driver 🙂

before long, we'll have Webber acting like some world champion and superstar driver 😁

Joshua Newman2 said:Hey everyone!
Spent the whole day breathing in salt air under some pine trees and missed the race. Heard things got interesting, and that Mark Webber finally started showing some teeth to the crew trying to turn him into Barrichello. 🙏

Did I miss anything else major?

It was pretty decent... just grab a torrent and watch it.

redheron12 said:McLaren handles things with such grace and elegance 😁

"Jenson sorry mate, we forgot to remove a cooling cover from the air intake"

Those points would have done him a world of good right about now 🙂

hollowgull5 said:as for Jenson Button
he's just cruising along
picking up points by driving safe and taking zero risks unless someone is somehow five seconds slower than him 🙂

Yeah... all I want to know is how he managed to jump from 14th to 4th yesterday. Sure, a few people dropped out, but it's not like the other eight drivers just vanished into thin air the moment they saw him coming ☕

Michael Lee4 said:Those points would definitely do him some good right about now 🙂

Yeah... all I want to know is how he managed to jump from 14th to 4th yesterday. Sure, a few people dropped out, but it’s not like those other eight drivers just vanished the moment they saw him ☕

Honestly, it fascinates me. I have no clue how he does it, but he always seems to end up ahead of where he started without actually overtaking anyone on track—at least, we never see it happen 😕

Seriously, I don't get it. I can't recall a single overtake by Jenson Button, even though there must have been at least eight 😕

Is his pit strategy and starts just that flawless, or does the director just hate him and refuse to show him? 🤷

God was on his side today. He pulled off some great late pit stops, and both Fernando Alonso and Kubica played right into his hands. If I remember correctly, he had already climbed up to 10th by the end of the first lap...

"Jenson Button (McLaren, 4th): " I'm so happy to have made up 10 places. But it's hard to overtake around here, so I knew I had to make up a lot of places off the start-line. In the event I made up six places, but I then had to push really hard on the option tyre in the first stint. That strategy worked for us and I came out behind Fernando, who had a drive-through, so I picked up fourth. It's a pity I couldn't have overtaken Nico Rosberg, but this is still a fantastic result for me. It's a pity I couldn't get onto the podium in front of my home crowd, who have been absolutely amazing all weekend. You can never forget the fans around here - I genuinely think they helped Lewis Hamilton and me to a good result today.""

We can dance around the subject all we want, but Jenson Button—ranking just behind his teammate and certainly ahead of whoever survived the wreckage of that defunct Red Bull seat—is my pick for this year's championship. His approach is essentially "slow and steady wins the race." He isn't out there pulling off jaw-dropping, heart-stopping maneuvers, but he remains consistently sharp without ever getting himself into unnecessary trouble. He’s like an unwanted Alain Prost. 🙏

I've read through everything and honestly, what can I even say...🤦 It just leaves you completely speechless.😬

Joshua Newman2 said:We can mess around all we want, but Jenson Button is—in my eyes, right after his teammate and before anyone else flying out of a wrecked Red Bull—the main candidate for this year's title. It’s that whole "still waters run deep" vibe: nothing flashy or breath-taking, just consistently solid without any unnecessary drama. Much like the understated Alain Prost. 🙏

Thank goodness some people have finally opened their eyes.

Maybe we'll actually reach a point where we can openly admit that Alain Prost was the better, more articulate driver than Ayrton Senna. Those four titles versus three, and fifty-one wins against forty-one, aren't just random stats; they are proof of pure dominance.

And let's be real: one guy is enjoying retirement while the other just burned out, which is worth considering. One was smart, the other wasn't. Those are the facts, folks. Just facts.

silvercobra68 said:Thank God, it seems like at least a few people have finally opened their eyes...

Maybe the time will finally come when we can openly admit that Alain Prost was the superior, more complete driver compared to Ayrton Senna... and that those four world titles against three, along with fifty-one wins over forty-one, aren't just empty numbers on a page, but actual proof... To overcome...

One guy is out there enjoying his retirement while the other completely blew it, and that’s a reality we have to face head-on. One was smart, the other wasn't... those are just the facts, people, those are the plain and simple facts...

Unfortunately for you, that kind of dominance only exists in your own imagination...

James Smith50 said:Too bad for you, but that kind of dominance only exists in your head...

Are you trying to tell me that 41 is more than 51?

That 3 is greater than 4?

Or that you'd rather be eaten alive by bugs than go on vacation to Maui?

Is that what you're getting at?

I just wanted to add one more thing regarding the whole Vettel-Webber-Red Bull dynamic. I totally get Webber—he’s a straight shooter, "what you see is what you get" kind of guy. It's also pretty obvious to me that Christian Horner is seriously lacking in certain management skills (specifically when it comes to playing the PR game).

What I don't get is Vettel. Up until now, I've been making excuses for his outbursts, chalking them up to him being young, but he's really not at an age where he needs someone to hold his hand through everything. I feel like I haven't actually heard his side of the story—the real, honest version. Every time I watch the coverage on ABC, they're constantly talking about him, following him around, and interviewing him, but since the entire broadcast is clearly sponsored by Red Bull, you aren't going to hear anything meaningful. It’s funny how right after a race, you can hear from Martin Haug, Christian Horner, Michael Schumacher, Nico Rosberg, Adrian Sutil—basically every German in Formula 1—but Vettel always has to go check in with the higher-ups at Red Bull before he's allowed to speak.

It reminds me of those kids hitting puberty who are just a walking ball of hormones with nothing to blow off steam on. It makes me wonder—does he even have a clue what he's doing? If not, then his mood swings make perfect sense. On the other hand, maybe Red Bull should just let him go out and shoot a bull in the field or something just to help him chill out.