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Looking for concert buddies for Arcade Fire + Fleet Foxes in New York City on 11/14/09!

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Participants Zachary Bishop82Kyle Wilson74restlessranger30Kevin Chavez3Susan Clark10Larry Cooper40Benjamin Phillips14Jesse Sanchez60Kevin James11Roger Jones5Kyle Jackson54Betty Ross78hollowseal33Emily Thomas3Raymond Bailey6Susan Edwards3urbannomad30Samuel Murphy6Harold Wright54gentlepuma20Dana Anderson4Sean Lee7coppermarlin81redmaker18 …
Jesse Sanchez60 Jesse Sanchez60 Regular
252 messages
joined Apr 2006
#21 ·
Larry Cooper40 said:Are they seriously over Antony??

He actually called off his US tour anyway, so our decision doesn't even feel that bad.😉
Susan Clark10 Susan Clark10 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2009
#22 ·
Chloe Wilson11 is a great friend, but I can't get behind 😬

Honestly, if I were just a broke college student who couldn't afford to travel for shows, I'd be way more devastated by missing out on seeing a band like Fleet Foxes than I would be feeling bad about $83* paying 🤷

At the end of the day, you're still handing those $83 over to some other promoter, so what’s really the difference?

* though, let's be real, I wouldn't pay a dime for Fleet Foxes 😁
Kyle Jackson54 Kyle Jackson54 Active Member
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joined Jun 2007
#23 ·
The real distinction here is that those concerts where tickets run north of $100, $120, or even $50—you know, the ones hitting that $200+ mark—are clearly high-stakes commercial spectacles. It’s my sense that SC shouldn't really be functioning as a venue for those kinds of massive commercial ventures; rather, its whole purpose ought to be centered around making culture actually affordable for everyone.
Betty Ross78 Betty Ross78 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2009
#24 ·
Jesse Sanchez60 said:but that's why there are other, bigger promoters out there, and from what I hear, that Fleet Foxes show in New York this May is pretty much a done deal 😉

Man, if only 🙂
when I caught them this past summer, they were absolutely killing it... 🙏
Larry Cooper40 Larry Cooper40 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Nov 2008
#25 ·
Look, supporting social justice principles is all well and good, but let’s be real—we live in a world run by liberal capitalism. So yeah, I’m backing whoever actually books the band I want to see... and if they do, I’ll happily pay whatever ticket price they slap on it. 😁

...I mean, why send our money overseas when we can spend it right here at home? 😁
...And wouldn't it be even better if that cash went toward building a top-tier venue that holds maybe 3,000 or 4,000 people? 🙂

...Anyway, I'm rambling now. Let's get back to the point... seriously, is nobody actually planning on heading to New York City? 🤷
Kyle Jackson54 Kyle Jackson54 Active Member
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joined Jun 2007
#26 ·
I mean, sure, that’s just how liberal capitalism works—some big-time corporate promoter decides to bring a high-profile band to America instead of a local outfit like SC. 👍 Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see Antony perform, but I really wouldn't want SC to be the ones pulling it off at a price tag of $67. It's not that I wouldn't shell out $67, per se... it just feels fundamentally off, given everything else going on over there, for their specific organization to charge that much for a single show. If some other wealthy benefactor or an independent promoter decided to step up and organize it, then you could count me in.
Susan Clark10 Susan Clark10 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2009
#27 ·
Kyle Jackson54 said:The real issue is that shows where tickets go for over $100 or $120—or even $50 (you know, those big ones hitting $200 and up)—are clearly high-end commercial productions. SC shouldn't be an institution focused on profit-driven spectacles; its whole purpose should be providing affordable culture.

Exactly. That’s why we ended up having to see highly commercial Dinosaur Jr. at that absolute disaster of a Boogaloo venue instead of $50😁
Jesse Sanchez60 Jesse Sanchez60 Regular
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joined Apr 2006
#28 ·
Betty Booth5 is a real one who totally gets it 😍
Susan Clark10 Susan Clark10 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2009
#29 ·
Kyle Jackson54 said:It’s not that I wouldn’t pay $67, it’s just that it feels totally out of sync with everything else they do for it to be priced that high under their management. If some other big shot stepped up to organize it, you'd see me there in a heartbeat.

To me, that sounds a little hypocritical...

I mean, if back when I was 19, my boyfriend had brought Sonic Youth to town for $67, I definitely wouldn't have been thinking, "Oh look, these guys from SC have sold out, they aren't staying true to their roots, they're just ripping off poor students..." Instead, I would have been absolutely thrilled that I didn't have to trek through Europe or sleep in train stations just to spend way more than $67.
Kyle Jackson54 Kyle Jackson54 Active Member
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joined Jun 2007
#30 ·
Two hundred bucks is a massive stretch when you're a college student—it’s a lot of money, no matter how you slice it. From what I gather about the way SC operates—and honestly, my understanding of their whole philosophy is a bit shaky—the point should be that for $67 you get the chance to hit three or four, maybe even more, shows. You should be able to see something every single week of the month without blowing your entire monthly budget on one solitary ticket. Bringing in legends like SY or DJr just doesn't align with that logic. I mean, let's be real: we've been living under capitalism for twenty years now, and surely an institution like this shouldn't be tasked with hosting these massive, headline-grabbing events. The fact that there aren't enough independent promoters out there to handle them... well, that's a whole other issue entirely.
hollowseal33 hollowseal33 Member
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joined Apr 2004
#31 ·
Look, they’re heading to New York City and claiming they won't have time to stop for shopping in Jersey City? You're going to New York City, for crying out loud—it's basically the shopping capital of the world. 😬

Anyway, feel free to keep rambling about the Fed's policies. Personally, I'm on the same page as Betty Booth5 and Larry Cooper40.
Kyle Jackson54 Kyle Jackson54 Active Member
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joined Jun 2007
#32 ·
Alright, look, it’s not like everyone is a total lost cause—there are definitely some bright spots out there if you know where to look. 🙂 EDIT: Actually, I should probably walk that back a bit—I'm just correcting myself here, I suppose. But then again, she just had to jump in and make it a thing. 😁
Susan Clark10 Susan Clark10 Newcomer
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#33 ·
Yeah, it’s a lot, but honestly, back when I was a student, I would’ve much rather paid $67 to see Sonic Youth—they mean so much more to me, and who knows, maybe they'll finally tour the US one day—than waste money on three or four random bands I found on MySpace just because it happened to be Friday 🙂

And look, I don't think the local arts council is the only "institution" that should be responsible for hosting "big" concerts, but I’d much prefer it if the shows I actually attended were organized by them. Besides, this promoter from New York City has put on Einstürzende Neubauten, Jon Spencer, and all sorts of high-caliber acts, and they aren't some "commercial powerhouse" or a massive corporation. Plus, we're living in a capitalist society 😁
Kyle Jackson54 Kyle Jackson54 Active Member
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joined Jun 2007
#34 ·
If my memory serves me right—and I could be mistaken, mind you—the ticket prices for those shows in Small Town, USA and Spencer were actually under $67, and that was pretty much it. So, I suppose you could say they fall well within the realm of being affordable.
Susan Clark10 Susan Clark10 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2009
#35 ·
Kyle Jackson54 said:If my memory serves me right, those shows out in Small Town, USA and Spencer were priced under $67, and that was about it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I’d say that definitely falls within an affordable range.

So Dinosaur Jr. would also count ($50), even though you mentioned they "don't really fit the bill." Plus, Sonic Youth were only 25 bucks when they played in New York City—that's just $60, which puts them squarely in the affordable category 😁
Larry Cooper40 Larry Cooper40 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2008
#36 ·
PrittPen;23268913 said:Wait, they're heading to New York City and complaining about skipping a stop for shopping in a random border town? You're going to New York City, man. That's basically the shopping capital of the world. 😬

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Here's why we aren't stopping there. 😁

Don't get me wrong, I'm stoked we have Matt and Arcade Fire 😁
I end up hitting those events all the time... otherwise, we'd just be stuck going to gorgeous shows with maybe 50 people in the crowd, "discovering" bands we heard two songs from on MySpace...

The real issue with most promoters—bringing in bands that actually have quality and a higher price tag, even if they don't hit the massive mainstream numbers here—is the lack of decent venues. We need spots that fit the right amount of people without forcing an insane ticket price... plus, let's not even talk about the sound quality in some of these places. After what we dealt with at the Boogaloo show, you start wondering if you even want to watch a band when the acoustics are that garbage...
Susan Clark10 Susan Clark10 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2009
#37 ·
Just out of curiosity, why did your travel companions back out after they had already bought their tickets? 😁
Larry Cooper40 Larry Cooper40 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2008
#38 ·
Business stuff... they make the money, we take the trips 😁
Kyle Wilson74 Kyle Wilson74 Active Member
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joined Jan 2008
#39 ·
Jesse Sanchez60 said:as far as I know, that Arcade Fire concert in the US this May is pretty much a done deal 😉

And you guys didn't believe me. 😳

😬
Emily Thomas3 Emily Thomas3 Active Member
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joined Sep 2007
#40 ·
Mind if I jump into this moral debate? So, we have the absolute best venue in the city, which usually brings in top-tier bands, and now they’re passing on a killer act just because those $33 are what separate the legends from the sellouts? Sorry man, but I honestly couldn't care less. What bugs me even more is that some other promoter will just swoop in, charge way more than the campus union, and cram us all into some tiny basement where you can barely hear a thing. Seriously, your logic is just flawless—absolute genius right there. You might as well have just said, "Let's skip the big names because dealing with them is a massive headache," which would be a much more honest way to put it. If the ticket profit for Fleet Foxes is the same as it is for Bon Iver, I don't see any ethical dilemma here, and I bet most students wouldn't either. I'm certainly not going to miss out on seeing Fleet Foxes just because you guys feel awkward charging $17 a bit more. Honestly, screw you 😠

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