Hitting the 10k post milestone - what's next?

I am aware that according to the policy regarding the 10,000-post threshold, the moderators typically open a new thread to avoid any unnecessary drama, even on a highly active and bustling forum like the Politics section here.

However, it seems this rule applies to the Television sub-forum for some users, while others seem to be treated differently.

Take, for instance, the discussion surrounding the Turkish drama Aşk-ı Memnu. Since there wasn't a more permanent home for it, it ended up being hosted over in the Soap Factory section, where it sparked massive interest among both women and men alike.😍 In terms of sheer view counts and engagement, it actually outpaced series that have been running much longer. The story itself is based on a novel from the 1900s and was first adapted for the screen back in 1975.

Because the number of posts surpassed the 10,000 mark, the moderator Ben Marshall locked the thread last night, explained the situation, and noted that a follow-up thread would be opened. Someone went ahead and did exactly that today, but then the moderator ambermason16 closed the new thread immediately, claiming it was filled with insults, reports, and trolling... 🤷
I don't want to nitpick about moderation styles, but if the reason given last night was simply what we all expected—hitting the post limit—then why this sudden change of heart and refusal to provide a solution now?

My question is quite simple: is it permissible (I believe it is, is it permissible 🤷😁 ) to open a continuation thread, just as is standard practice in other sub-forums and as we have seen with various other series in the Television section?

I’m asking the exact same thing.

And honestly, looking back at that previous tema, there wasn't a single shred of insults or trolling to be found; there just wasn't any room for that kind of negativity in a discussion that was actually pleasant, engaging, and genuinely lively.

The series—and by extension, the forum thread—had a massive following, with a huge crowd of daily female users and a decent amount of guys jumping in too, so the interest level would’ve stayed pretty much the same even after everything wrapped up. I don't see any logical reason why they decided to lock it down, especially since they did it even before the final episode reruns could start. It basically means those people who missed the original broadcast for whatever reason were totally shut out from sharing their feelings, their theories, their sadness, their excitement... or just their take on things.

I’d really appreciate it if someone could explain what exactly happened to trigger the locking of a thread that was perfectly fine just a few hours ago, and maybe offer some kind of solution.

Thanks.

It’s a sad, sad story... and honestly, I totally get where you're coming from. The thread stays open regardless. 😁

Usually, when a show wraps up but the thread stays live, it’s because the series was a massive hit and the community, for lack of a better term, earned the right to keep the conversation going. This particular topic doesn't meet either of those criteria.

And look, we aren't going to sit here and tolerate another thousand pages of people insulting, trolling, whining, reporting posts, or picking fights with Ezel and whoever else in a thread dedicated to a show that's already over.

Sarah Wilson95 said:I am aware that according to the policy regarding the 10,000-post threshold, the moderators typically open a new thread to avoid any unnecessary drama, even on a highly active and bustling forum like the Politics section here.

However, it seems this rule applies to the Television sub-forum for some users, while others seem to be treated differently.

Take, for instance, the discussion surrounding the Turkish drama Aşk-ı Memnu. Since there wasn't a more permanent home for it, it ended up being hosted over in the Soap Factory section, where it sparked massive interest among both women and men alike.😍 In terms of sheer view counts and engagement, it actually outpaced series that have been running much longer. The story itself is based on a novel from the 1900s and was first adapted for the screen back in 1975.

Because the number of posts surpassed the 10,000 mark, the moderator Ben Marshall locked the thread last night, explained the situation, and noted that a follow-up thread would be opened. Someone went ahead and did exactly that today, but then the moderator ambermason16 closed the new thread immediately, claiming it was filled with insults, reports, and trolling... 🤷
I don't want to nitpick about moderation styles, but if the reason given last night was simply what we all expected—hitting the post limit—then why this sudden change of heart and refusal to provide a solution now?

My question is quite simple: is it permissible (I believe it is, is it permissible 🤷😁 ) to open a continuation thread, just as is standard practice in other sub-forums and as we have seen with various other series in the Television section?

I suppose I should start posting... when that shock finally hits... 😲

...not only is she laughing, but she's actually... must television opening sequel...

...there are at least two reasons:

The series finale aired yesterday, and we’re already seeing reruns today; therefore, the show is far too fresh to consider the topic closed...

Either NBC or Discovery will most likely rerun the series. Does that mean we’ll finally be allowed to open a new discussion thread? Interest is bound to be massive. If the answer is yes—and it almost certainly is—then the current restriction is completely senseless and hits the very heart of the problem...

Regarding the reasoning: both the users and the moderators create the topic. Therefore, it reflects both parties equally...

ambermason16 said:It’s a sad, sad story... and honestly, I totally get where you're coming from. The thread stays open regardless. 😁

Usually, when a show wraps up but the thread stays live, it’s because the series was a massive hit and the community, for lack of a better term, earned the right to keep the conversation going. This particular topic doesn't meet either of those criteria.

And look, we aren't going to sit here and tolerate another thousand pages of people insulting, trolling, whining, reporting posts, or picking fights with Ezel and whoever else in a thread dedicated to a show that's already over.

Actually, this is worse than I initially thought. So, the claim is that someone was intentionally jumping in last night to post about events in Japan (?) and insulting the women on the thread—and that’s being cited as the reason for the lock? Plus, the fact that people were reporting posts (for instance, I personally reported something twice over the last two months) when users were deliberately dropping spoilers—is that also a reason for the lock? Is it because we didn't want to deal with users who simply refused to stop posting spoilers? 👍

Oh, I see, so it's actually about Ezel, something you penalized just a few weeks ago (which is a whole other discussion in itself)!
Well, I'm certainly satisfied with that explanation. Thank you for the honesty and for publicly admitting the motives behind locking the thread—even if you did describe the situation quite, quite incorrectly. 🙂

Paul Kim said:I suppose I should start posting... when that shock finally hits... 😲

...not only is she laughing, but she's actually... must television opening sequel...

...there are at least two reasons:

The series finale aired yesterday, and we’re already seeing reruns today; therefore, the show is far too fresh to consider the topic closed...

Either NBC or Discovery will most likely rerun the series. Does that mean we’ll finally be allowed to open a new discussion thread? Interest is bound to be massive. If the answer is yes—and it almost certainly is—then the current restriction is completely senseless and hits the very heart of the problem...

Regarding the reasoning: both the users and the moderators create the topic. Therefore, it reflects both parties equally...

Oh, really? Is that so? 😕

Regarding the reasoning behind this: both the users and the moderators create the tema. It’s a mirror reflecting both sides equally.

Regarding the explanation—look, over the last two weeks, users have submitted more than 50 reports on this specific thread. And that doesn't even account for the posts that weren't reported at all, but were instead moderated manually or after the fact. If you ask me, this whole situation is a perfect reflection of the topic itself.

The only thing actually proven on this tema is that none of you know how to have a constructive conversation. At least not when it comes to this series. Credit where credit is due to the exceptions, of course, but they are such a tiny minority that it’s practically criminal.

The show is over. Honestly, if we hadn't been hit with a sudden flood of twelve new posts this morning on a thread that’s already stretched over three pages, it might have actually stayed alive for a bit longer. But now? It's officially closed.

ambermason16 said:It’s a sad, sad story... and honestly, I totally get where you're coming from. The thread stays open regardless. 😁

Usually, when a show wraps up but the thread stays live, it’s because the series was a massive hit and the community, for lack of a better term, earned the right to keep the conversation going. This particular topic doesn't meet either of those criteria.

And look, we aren't going to sit here and tolerate another thousand pages of people insulting, trolling, whining, reporting posts, or picking fights with Ezel and whoever else in a thread dedicated to a show that's already over.

...that's just not something (not) the moderators allow...

...in this way, everyone who follows the rules gets punished; which is most of us... and freedom of speech becomes nothing more than an empty slogan...

...besides, the topic was closed before the show even technically ended; many people were watching reruns for the first time, which leaves a truly bitter taste and clearly proves how unfair this decision is...

@ambermason16
I’m sorry, but what kind of reports are you actually referring to? Why are you trying to push this narrative that the topic became a breeding ground for insults and conflict when that simply isn't the case? Are you trying to convince some higher authority or what? 😕 The engagement and readership levels speak for themselves, and I would assume everyone who took part knows whether they were being abusive or just engaging in normal conversation. Of course, there have been lapses—some spam, a bit of trolling—though I doubt other threads are held to the standard of academic debates, let's be real—and that’s just human nature, especially when things get heated. Most of that can be handled with a simple warning rather than immediately going for the heavy-handed approach if one wants to keep things
clear. No, the discussion was never stifled, nor can we call it the undisciplined chaos you’re attempting to portray for whatever reason.

Last night, someone was being provocative on the thread, insulting everyone who watches the series... naturally, someone reacted and reported those posts. Good grief, that is exactly what the "report misconduct" feature is for. I don't see the point of having it if regular users who are constantly active can't complain about these outbursts. Isn't that option specifically designed to assist moderators, who physically aren't able to monitor every single conversation across every single thread? 😕

ambermason16 said:Oh, really? Is that so? 😕

Regarding the reasoning behind this: both the users and the moderators create the tema. It’s a mirror reflecting both sides equally.

Regarding the explanation—look, over the last two weeks, users have submitted more than 50 reports on this specific thread. And that doesn't even account for the posts that weren't reported at all, but were instead moderated manually or after the fact. If you ask me, this whole situation is a perfect reflection of the topic itself.

The only thing actually proven on this tema is that none of you know how to have a constructive conversation. At least not when it comes to this series. Credit where credit is due to the exceptions, of course, but they are such a tiny minority that it’s practically criminal.

The show is over. Honestly, if we hadn't been hit with a sudden flood of twelve new posts this morning on a thread that’s already stretched over three pages, it might have actually stayed alive for a bit longer. But now? It's officially closed.

...A moderator's job is to manage things based on objective rules; not to play favorites with posts, nor to obsess over report counts and such...

...If those "criminal" posts are truly in the minority, then they should have been handled with warnings or bans... essentially, the moderator is the one defining the tone of the thread.

As far as I’m concerned: EOD.

The question I’m posing is whether one of us members, or perhaps a moderator, could start a fresh thread—something along the lines of Ask me Memnu 2—similar to how sequels get launched on the rest of the forum or when the television network decides to open up follow-up discussions for other series.

And who actually has the final say on a move like that? Is it the admin, the moderators over at the network, or maybe the specific mod who kicked off the original thread? Or would it require a third party to step in?

ambermason16 said:As far as I’m concerned: EOD.

...I honestly think this post is quite pathetic, inappropriate, and telling...

...and proof that The only thing proven on this topic is that you don't know how to have a constructive discussion doesn't apply (just) to typical American forum users

I took this one personally, honestly, and I’m sitting here feeling like I’ve been dealt a massive, unfair hand.

ambermason16 said:It’s a sad, sad story... and honestly, I totally get where you're coming from. The thread stays open regardless. 😁

Usually, when a show wraps up but the thread stays live, it’s because the series was a massive hit and the community, for lack of a better term, earned the right to keep the conversation going. This particular topic doesn't meet either of those criteria.

And look, we aren't going to sit here and tolerate another thousand pages of people insulting, trolling, whining, reporting posts, or picking fights with Ezel and whoever else in a thread dedicated to a show that's already over.

An incredibly, deeply rude response 👎

It’s ritko when I run into moderators on this forum who aren't bursting with
egotism and self-importance, but this is truly excessive ☕

Poor communication equals a poor forum 👎

You’ve shut down my favorite topic (and I suspect many others) just like that.
And what’s worse is that it has to be accepted as a fait accompli, without any chance for a reasonable appeal or even a shred of decent conversation.

If there were any professionalism involved, you would have opened a new thread with stricter guidelines—since that's what the users here actually want—rather than just dismissively brushing us off.

Once again: 👎👎

Please, bring back the Ask me Memnu tema—trust me, there are plenty of us still hooked and waiting for more!

Arthur Mendoza5 said:I took this one personally, honestly, and I’m sitting here feeling like I’ve been dealt a massive, unfair hand.

What kind of injustice is that to everyone who’s been following this from day one, and for what exactly?.....

The main thing is that we can actually discuss Asi and Ezel without having to talk about reruns of mega-popular American soap operas
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slyheron34 said:An incredibly, deeply rude response 👎

It’s ritko when I run into moderators on this forum who aren't bursting with
egotism and self-importance, but this is truly excessive ☕

Poor communication equals a poor forum 👎

You’ve shut down my favorite topic (and I suspect many others) just like that.
And what’s worse is that it has to be accepted as a fait accompli, without any chance for a reasonable appeal or even a shred of decent conversation.

If there were any professionalism involved, you would have opened a new thread with stricter guidelines—since that's what the users here actually want—rather than just dismissively brushing us off.

Once again: 👎👎

signature. ☕

I was honestly so excited to get back on this forum tonight... to finally sit down, catch up on everything in the Ask me Memnu tema, and actually weigh in... I’ve been sidelined for a few days because I’ve been feeling under the weather, so first I wanted to read, then I wanted to comment... and then, once I saw that both threads—in the regular section and the unshown one—were closed, I almost started crying from pure frustration. Maybe people will think I'm being dramatic or just won't get it, but I truly believe I can't be the only one feeling this void, this inability to focus on anything else since the series ended... I just really wish I had a place where I could actually share these feelings with someone... it's honestly just so sad.

I seriously can't believe this.
😲
It’s honestly so unfair. That Ask me Memnu tema was easily the best one—everyone was actually contributing and building on each other's takes. And we rarely had to deal with jealous trolls or accidental spoilers, which is pretty much standard anyway.
There wasn't even any real bullying going on (except for that one kid who popped up last night acting out ☕). I mean, some other threads have way worse insults and drama than this.

The girls all said their piece.
In my opinion, this is totally unjust. 👎

EDIT: Regarding that whole excuse about the thread being closed because the show ended 😕
The thread was shut down before the final episode even finished rerunning on USA Network, and there are people who missed it last night who probably wanted to share their thoughts after the rerun
👎

Ashley Martin10 said:What kind of injustice is that to everyone who’s been following this from day one, and for what exactly?.....

The main thing is that we can actually discuss Asi and Ezel without having to talk about reruns of mega-popular American soap operas
.

Exactly.
I suppose Zamka earned its spot for discussion, but Orient Passion definitely didn't.
I mean... what is actually going on with the admins? 🤷
Where did they go wrong? I'm really not feeling this one.👎