China Trip - Shanghai (April 19, 2009)

stormybadger8 said:Look, whatever you want to believe, Lewis Hamilton basically treated that race like a personal masterclass, intentionally spinning out a couple of times just to show off, and then showing he had the sheer skill to wrestle that car back under control perfectly every single time, without ever getting stuck in the gravel or slamming into a wall—you really think that was some kind of accident?🤷

I honestly don't know what you expect from me. 🤷

It feels like no matter what the kid pulls off, you're just going to dismiss it as pure luck or some other nonsense, so I don't see much point in even trying to argue with you...
All I'm saying is that despite driving a total junker, he pushed way harder than most of the guys out there—definitely more than Felipe Massa did, which the results prove—and managed to scrape together some points. At the end of the day, if you look at the field, there are only a handful of drivers who can actually squeeze anything out of a slow car: Fernando Alonso, Lewis Hamilton, Robert Kubica, Sebastian Vettel, and Kimi Räikkönen when he's actually feeling it.☕

mistybear87 said:we're talking about a solid block of Styrofoam, like 12 inches thick, just sitting there anchored to the ground through wind and rain
Nelson Piquet slammed into it at over 60 mph and, duh, obviously he smashed the wing ☕

I mean, honestly, every Pokemon has a special ability, right? Same goes for Piquet... he’s got the Spin of Death🙏

the wing was totally fine😉👍🙂
you just scraped your nose off👍☕

stormybadger8 said:Let's be real here:

Honestly, Felipe Massa was miles ahead today—☕just count how many times Lewis Hamilton spun off or lost control compared to how steady Massine was driving. ☕

Whether Massine had an engine issue or a gearbox failure 😕has absolutely nothing to do with his skill level in the rain. ☕

As for Hamilton's drive today and how he walked away with those points? It was easily some of the luckiest racing I've ever seen in the history of Formula 1. ☕

Seriously, people arguing about luck again... give me a break.

darkmarlin16 said:he's been better since Brazil, honestly--especially☕in the rain☕

Look, once someone pulls a lead of over 68 seconds in the rain, then we can talk... until then, it's all just noise.

slynomad32 said::🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thank goodness someone finally spoke some sense—actually being objective for once! ☕

LOL, nice one 🙂

rustystag7 said:It’s actually pretty easy to crunch the numbers—you can see exactly how many laps Lewis Hamilton pulled compared to Felipe Massa before that engine failure hit.

I mean, let's be real—yesterday's race was an absolute disaster.

Honestly, I’d give him a penalty for that move—he was just playing around cutting into the racing line when there was zero room to do it. It was way too tight right after the corner, and he almost sent us all into a ditch!

Watching him dive into the track so recklessly—with half the field having to swerve just to avoid a massive collision—it totally flashed back to that disaster where Zanardi completely wrecked things. 👎

Check out my other post where I was looking for that same info on Trulli at Spa last year—if you can't find it, then you're just being a hypocrite and a total Lewis Hamilton hater.

rustystag7 said:What's wrong with Felipe Massa???
Look, I get that people love to joke about him—and hey, I'm all for a little fun—but we're talking about a guy who missed out on the Formula 1 championship by just a single point...
And let's be honest, that point came from Glock under some pretty questionable circumstances at Spa...
Regardless of what anyone else says or thinks...

Sure, Massa had his fair share of brain farts—I’ll give you that—but he had way more brilliant moments. Seriously, this is a guy with an incredible win count, and he just finished 3rd in yesterday's race, yet nobody even mentioned it in your posts! Plus, he was dealing with one of the toughest cars on track—I think Nelson Piquet's setup was maybe 5-7 kg heavier than his...

So, save all that talk about being "objective" or "unbiased" for someone else. 😉

Good grief, the clowns in this thread are out of control... One point? Are you kidding me? For it to actually feel like a fair fight, Massa should have won by at least 6 or 7 points. Does anyone even remember the robbery at Spa back in 2008?

On top of that, Massa ended up spinning off the track right during the safety car period...😁

rustystag7 said:but

Man!!!!

All this jealousy and bitterness directed at Lewis Hamilton really doesn't suit you.😛

I am convinced there is a specific team you actually root for... so perhaps focus your energy on them instead. Spitting on others like this says much more about your own character than it does about anyone else.😛

Gary Palmer8 said:I honestly don't know what we're even talking about here. It's just more nonsense about luck... sigh.

Resorting to insults isn't an effective way to express disagreement with someone's post.🤷>

ironfalcon43 said:Insulting someone isn't really the way to go if you disagree with their post—it just kills the vibe!🤷

I don't know—I can't say I agree with that approach—but if you take a look at some of his recent posts, you'll see exactly what I mean... either I'm totally off base here, or the guy is just straight-up racist.

Gary Palmer8 said:It’s not how I’d put it, and I’m not saying I agree, but if you actually bother to look through his past posts, you'll see my point... or maybe I'm just wrong and the guy is simply a racist...

😂😂😵

ironfalcon43 said:Man!!!!

All this jealousy and bitterness toward Lewis Hamilton just doesn't suit you...😛

I’m convinced there’s actually a specific team you root for,,, so maybe focus your energy on them instead,,,,, This kind of constant bashing of others really says more about your own character than anything else...😛

😉👍☕

Gary Palmer8 said:That’s not how I see it, but honestly, just skim through his posts and you'll see I'm right... or maybe I'm wrong and the guy is just a straight-up racist.

Me, a racist? 🤣First off, I actually prefer Lewis Hamilton as a driver over Mass, and even over Fernando Alonso, so you can forget that theory right now.😉

But seriously, yesterday was a massive letdown.☕

Gary Palmer8 As specified by:
I can't say I agree with that approach, but if you take a moment to look through his previous posts, you'll see exactly what I mean... or perhaps you'll find that I'm actually the one in the wrong. Let's be honest: the man is simply a racist.

If you descend to their level, you're essentially proving that you aren't any better than they are.

stormybadger8 said:Look, I'm no bigot 🤣 but I've always leaned toward Lewis Hamilton—both as a driver and just a person—over guys like Mass or even Fernando Alonso, so you can forget those accusations😉

And honestly, yesterday was just a massive letdown☕

Maybe you're just looking at this through a different lens depending on your own skin color, so maybe the logic is flipped for you😉 😁

Just kidding, obviously...👍

Arthur Doyle70 said:Maybe you're just dark-skinned, so your logic is backwards 😉 😁

Just kidding, obviously...👍

🤣 Pale as a ghost and blonde as a Barbie 😬 so basically 🤣

Isn't it about time we started a fresh thread for the 🎉Shanghai Grand Prix
?

Brenda Jones7 said:Isn't it about time we started a new thread? The Shanghai Grand Prix in Bahrain 🎉

I’ve just been sitting here waiting for someone else to kick things off so I can finally share my own expectations for the season.🙏

Morgan Murphy7 said:I’m just sitting here, staring at my screen, waiting for someone—anyone—to actually open up a thread so I can finally dump all my expectations and theories out into the void. Honestly, I feel like I'm just hovering on the sidelines, waiting for the signal to start talking, because I've got plenty to say, but I'm not about to go shouting into an empty room. 🙏

Oh, come off it! Just stop it already. 😛

I’ve reached that point where I’m honestly just expecting absolutely nothing anymore—or, well, at least that’s what I keep telling myself every single morning while I’m nursing my coffee and staring blankly at the news. It’s like a defense mechanism, you know? You tell yourself the bar is on the floor so that when things inevitably go sideways, you can just shrug and say, "Yeah, figured." It’s exhausting constantly riding the emotional rollercoaster of hope only to get dumped at the bottom, so now I'm just trying to stay numb to it all. Honestly, it's easier this way. 😬)

Come on, open up already! What are you sitting there waiting for? Seriously, just get moving. 😉
I’d honestly love to jump in, but I just can't find the right headspace for it when everything else on this board is such a mess right now. 🤣

I really hope I don't get slapped with a ban for going off-topic again... seriously, let me live! 😬Man, what a letdown. This whole race turned out to be way too much of a snooze-fest, especially after starting off feeling like a total retirement home circuit. Honestly, if Kimi Räikkönen had managed to snag even a single point, and if Lewis Hamilton hadn't gone completely off the rails at one point, we might have actually had something worth watching. Instead, it was just... meh. 😍

🙂

Brenda Jones7 said:... plus, if Kimi Räikkönen had managed to snag even a single point, and Lewis Hamilton hadn't suddenly spun out 😍

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