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Hannah Williams5 Hannah Williams5 Member
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#241 ·
Kimberly Ward said:Look at it this way: you don't necessarily need to scare a patient, but you should be direct.
Take my own experience: back when I was eleven months along, I caught some "weird" virus.
Literally every single marker in my bloodwork was below the normal range. I was dealing with severe anemia and even had brief bouts of losing consciousness; my levels were abysmal—hemoglobin was at 88 and iron was just 2.9. Naturally, the coughing came with a fever, even though my lungs and throat seemed fine. Should my doctor have just brushed me off, or should they have referred me to an internist or a hematologist? That specialist ended up being a huge support to me, which was a massive contrast to my OBGYN (who told me, in a truly rude manner, that I had simply let myself get too cold and suggested I go see a private specialist instead). They claimed my low iron was purely due to gynecological issues.
Given everything I heard from my primary care physician—telling me to just relax and that everything would be fine while they searched for the cause of the anemia—it felt much easier knowing I actually had someone in my corner.

But in your case, the lab results were actually pathological. In those situations, having support and solid advice is vital.
The person you're talking about doesn't have a single abnormal result. So why bother scaring them by suggesting something is wrong?
Brandon Newman95 Brandon Newman95 Active Member
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#242 ·
Jeffrey Peterson43 said:But you had abnormal results. That's when having support and advice actually matters.
But look at the guy above—his labs are perfectly normal. Why on earth would you try to scare him by acting like something is wrong?

The only way that makes sense is if he's dealing with some "paranoid" doctor who just wants to pass him off to a specialist just to be safe. You shouldn't be scaring people; you should just explain things clearly—talk to them, don't just stare at a computer screen.
Anyway, my own numbers have improved and everyone's happy with the progress. We'll just have to see how things look in three months. 🙂
Hannah Williams5 Hannah Williams5 Member
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#243 ·
Kimberly Ward said:Unless she’s one of those "paranoid" doctors who wants to pass him off to a specialist just to cover her own tracks. She shouldn't be scaring him; she should be explaining the reasoning behind why she's ordering specific tests—actually talking to the patient instead of just staring at a computer screen.
In my case, though, my labs have improved and everyone is satisfied with the progress. We'll see how things look in three months. 🙂

I honestly don't know what I was supposed to explain to him or what suspicions I was meant to address, given that his lab results show he is perfectly healthy.
It's possible the doctor simply lacks sufficient expertise and is acting out of insecurity. If that's the case, she'd be better off picking up a medical textbook rather than unnecessarily terrifying patients and ordering redundant tests. Wouldn't you agree?
Sam Hall15 Sam Hall15 Active MemberOP
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#244 ·
I second this...
Brandon Newman95 Brandon Newman95 Active Member
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#245 ·
Jeffrey Peterson43 said:I honestly don't even know what to say to him or how to explain my doubts, especially since his labs show he's perfectly healthy.
Maybe the doctor just doesn't know enough and is feeling unsure herself, but if that's the case, she should probably pick up a medical textbook instead of scaring patients and ordering unnecessary tests. Don't you think?

Look, maybe she's just some new resident or an intern who's overcompensating by ordering extra tests just to be safe, or maybe she's a specialist in training who needs to hit the books a bit more.
At the end of the day, you have to remember the guy is a smoker and then there's everything else... from what I can gather as a layman, his blood work looks like something where you just need to watch your diet for two weeks without jumping straight to medication. And obviously, age matters too when you're looking at those results.
Hannah Williams5 Hannah Williams5 Member
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#246 ·
Kimberly Ward said:Look, this might just be some young resident who’s playing it safe by ordering extra tests, or maybe she's a specialist trainee who needs to double-check the textbooks before making a call.
At the end of the day, you have to factor in that he's a smoker—and then some. From my layman's perspective, if those blood results are accurate, he really just needs to watch his diet for two weeks and stay off any meds. Of course, the timing of when they drew the blood matters too.

I don't see how that even applies here.
Don't take it personally, but it feels like you're running out of actual arguments to make.🙄
Sam Hall15 Sam Hall15 Active MemberOP
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#247 ·
Well, the only true picture is the one you get from your blood work. That’s your reality at any given moment, whether it's been altered by medication or not. It’s also a fact that diet impacts your results, so we really need to stick to the plan for these next two weeks...
crimsonsailor14 crimsonsailor14 Newcomer
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#248 ·
Since we're already talking about this topic...
My iron is sitting at 7.4 (normal range 8.00-30.0), and TIBC is 47.5 (49.0-75.0)
Everything else looks fine.
I'm a 45-year-old woman—standard diet, no history of anemia, and my periods have always been regular (and light) my whole life.
Does a result like this warrant more testing, or is two months of Levothyroxine 2 enough before I check back in?
Brandon Newman95 Brandon Newman95 Active Member
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#249 ·
Jeffrey Peterson43 said:I honestly don't get what kind of roleplay they think they're pulling now. Seriously.
Look, don't get all worked up, but you're honestly just running out of things to say at this point. You've got zero arguments left.🙄

Look, I’m not even mad here. I didn't mean like, going on a total starvation diet for two weeks or anything—I just meant being mindful about what I'm eating. I've heard people talk about it, you know? Read stuff online, too. The whole idea is just to get an accurate blood panel without all the medication messing with the results. I've seen plenty of sources say the same thing, honestly. Or maybe just three days of adjusting. Anyway, I've heard a ton of different things about getting those labs to reflect reality, but I gotta run. Catch you later.
Look, I’m really not a doctor or anything. I'm just a regular person who doesn't know the first thing about this stuff.
And honestly, at the end of the day, it all just comes down to the individual.
Look, everyone’s entitled to their own opinion, whether we see eye to eye or not. Honestly, it’s best if we just drop it and move on.
Look, I’d say you should probably just check with your doctor first. It really depends on who you're seeing. Some doctors will want to run a whole battery of more tests to be safe, while others will just put you on some Levothyroxine and tell you to come back for a follow-up in two months. Everyone does things differently.
Hannah Williams5 Hannah Williams5 Member
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#250 ·
crimsonsailor14 said:Well, since we're already discussing this topic...
So, my iron levels are at 7.4 (normal range is 8.00-30.0), and TIBC is 47.5 (49.0-75.0).
Everything else looks fine.
I'm a 45-year-old woman, eating a standard diet, and I've never dealt with anemia before. My periods have always been regular (though light) throughout my life.
Does a result like this mean I need more testing, or is taking Levothyroxine for two months followed by a check-up sufficient?

From what I can gather, there isn't actually an anemia situation here. It looks like your body's iron stores have simply dipped. The logical move would be to replenish them with an iron supplement and then run the labs again in three months.
dustydrifter14 dustydrifter14 Newcomer
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#251 ·
Thanks to everyone for the replies and comments.
This whole discussion feels just like my own internal tug-of-war:
1. I consider myself healthy—and honestly, I feel healthy—but then again,
2. maybe my doctor saw something in my results that I just don't grasp, or
3. there's that old tailor's rule: measure three times, cut once.
🙏
By the way, my doctor isn't some green, inexperienced rookie. She’s an old pro with decades of experience and countless patients under her belt. That actually made me even more spooked and confused.
But, alright. I saw her, and her explanation for what she dislikes in my lab work is simply that the reference ranges listed on the right have shifted slightly lower than they used to be.
Apparently, this change hasn't been officially announced yet, so the templates used on lab reports will eventually have to be updated too.
😕

So, if those reference values really are being adjusted, it means that in that scenario, I would technically have elevated hemoglobin, erythrocytes, and leukocytes.
Which leads me to ask: what does it actually indicate when someone has all three of those things elevated?
🤷

P.S. crimsonsailor14,
I see your iron levels are down.
My mother had catastrophically low iron about 15 years ago. The lab techs used to joke they were "searching for it on the floor."
She was taking some liquid iron supplement and told me nothing in her life felt more nauseating than that single swallow before she could even catch her breath.
It didn't help. She tried various tablets, but it was useless.
Then she tried eating eggs, honey, and using different natural supplements and teas, but still, nothing.
Finally, an old doctor suggested she try some high-quality blackberry wine from a local pharmacy and drink about two ounces every day before lunch.
After about three weeks, her iron jumped to 20 and has stayed right around there ever since.
Give it a shot. It won't hurt you. Just don't overdo it, because that wine is strong and it'll make your head spin if you aren't careful.
👍
mistyhound2 mistyhound2 Active Member
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#252 ·
Carol Rivera40 said:Hey, please help me out here...

So my husband just got back from the hospital with his blood and urine results. Everything looks fine on the bloodwork except for one thing—his C-reactive protein is at 35😢. I have no clue what that actually means. I’ve been spiraling down an internet rabbit hole and found stuff saying it could be some kind of bacterial infection
. I also should mention he's been dealing with diarrhea for three days now, and since yesterday, there's been a little blood mixed in. It’s honestly awful... anything he eats and he’s sprinting straight to the bathroom immediately.
He finished the tests and still has to drop off a stool sample for lab work, which won't be ready for a few days
. Does anyone know anything about this? Has anyone else dealt with something similar????

On top of all this, I'm pregnant, and I'm terrified that if it *is* a bacterial thing, he might pass it to me. Is that even possible???

CRP is incredibly non-specific. Honestly, something a lot of doctors (unfortunately) do is just assume a high CRP automatically means an infection. But look, if you cut yourself, your CRP goes up. If you have a bruise or a hematoma, it goes up. Even with diarrhea—which is usually just a virus anyway—your CRP can spike. There really isn't any reason to panic yet...
Brandon Newman95 Brandon Newman95 Active Member
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#253 ·
Jeffrey Peterson43 said:From what I can tell, there’s no actual anemia here. It looks like just a dip in iron stores. The best move is probably to top them back up with some iron supplements and then just re-test everything in three months.

Anyway, jumping in here regarding the Levothyroxine: honestly, some people find it totally nauseating and deal with all sorts of digestive issues from it.
Personally? I handle it just fine. No complaints from me.
And like someone else mentioned earlier: go heavy on the blackberry juice—basically any berries you can find—plus tons of red and green veggies.
mistyhound2 mistyhound2 Active Member
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#254 ·
Kimberly Ward said:Look, it’s not like you should go out and scare the life out of a patient, but you can just be straight with them.
Here's my specific situation: back in November, I caught some "weird" virus.
Literally every single one of my blood markers was bottomed out—totally below the normal range. I had this awful anemia and even passed out briefly, plus I felt completely wiped. My hemoglobin was at 88 and iron was sitting at 2.9. And of course, the cough came with a fever, even though my lungs and throat seemed fine. Should my doctor have just brushed me off or sent me to an internist (specifically a hematologist)? Because honestly, that guy was a huge support, unlike my OBGYN (who basically told me in the rudest way possible that I just let myself get too cold and suggested I go see someone privately). She claimed the low iron was purely a gynecological issue.
After everything that doctor said—telling me to just relax and that we'd find the cause of the anemia—I actually felt better because I knew someone actually had my back.

P.S. I'll shoot you a PM with the rest of the story.

Serum iron is the absolute worst metric to use when measuring iron-deficiency anemia. Measuring serum IRON is useless. But hey, most of these clueless doctors don't have a clue. If you're anemic, you're anemic, and the cause is likely some kind of messed up iron balance. That's why you run other tests to actually find the root cause. Finding that is the job of a primary care physician, not some specialist like an OBGYN or a hematologist. You only head to a specialist once the GP hits a wall with complex stuff...
mistyhound2 mistyhound2 Active Member
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#255 ·
crimsonsailor14 said:Alright, since we’re already diving into this topic...
So, iron is at 7.4 (normal range is 8.00-30.0), TIBC is 47.5 (49.0-75.0)
Everything else looks fine.
Female, 45 years old, pretty standard diet, never dealt with anemia before, periods have always been regular (and light) her whole life.
Does a result like this mean I need more testing, or is just two months of Levothyroxine 2 enough before a follow-up?

It’s the same old story. Again, just serum iron. 🙄I need other parameters—I need the Hb levels, and frankly, I need the actual patient, how they look, what symptoms they’re actually feeling.
mistyhound2 mistyhound2 Active Member
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#256 ·
Sam Hall15 said:first off, he doesn't have excess iron, his levels are actually totally normal, and second never should a doctor be treating a lab report instead of the actual patient. look, if one single value is outside the reference range but isn't tied to how the person actually feels, it usually isn't worth digging into—and I'm emphasizing "usually" because not all tests work the same way. plus, obviously, wasting money sending people for useless tests is just stupid, I don't see what's confusing about that...

thank God someone finally said it. 👍👍👍 basics first: you deal with the patient and the clinical picture, then you look at the labs. interpreting numbers blindly is a huge mistake, and unfortunately, plenty of doctors still do it. even worse? instead of actually talking to the person and doing a physical exam, they just order a battery of expensive tests. 🙄and patients? they have zero clue. my advice: if you walk into an office and they don't bother to talk to you or examine you, and just immediately start ordering tests—go find a better doctor!
Hannah Williams5 Hannah Williams5 Member
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#257 ·
Kimberly Ward said:Regarding the Levothyroxine: some people find it absolutely nauseating and deal with constant digestive issues because of it.
Personally, I handle it just fine.
And if I can offer one bit of advice, similar to what was mentioned earlier: stick to things like blackberry juice—basically any kind of berry—and load up on plenty of red and green vegetables.

It’s also worth noting that you get the best iron absorption from meat, specifically red meat, which is the most nutrient-dense source by volume.
Hannah Williams5 Hannah Williams5 Member
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#258 ·
dustydrifter14 said:So, if those reference ranges actually end up getting adjusted, I’m going to be looking at elevated hemoglobin, red blood cells, and white blood cell counts.
Basically, what does it actually mean when someone shows an increase in all three of those markers on a blood panel?
🤷

I honestly have no idea how much they would even need to shift those reference ranges before you suddenly fall back into the "normal" zone.
And frankly, why are you stressing over the biology of it all right now? You've already gone from physical symptoms to full-blown psychological anxiety.🙄
Thomas Rodriguez Thomas Rodriguez Newcomer
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#259 ·
So, here’s the situation: I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's thyroiditis a few years back. For a while after that, I was on Synthroid...
My hormone levels finally stabilized. My doctor told me I don't need any more treatment for now, and he noted in my results that I should just come back for a follow-up in three or four years.
So, I just went ahead and rechecked my TSH and Free T4 levels again.

The lab results came back: TSH/Thyrotropin is sitting at 7.80. The normal range is listed as 0.4 to 4.0.
Free T4 at 16.1. Normal range is 9–22.

It’s pretty clear my TSH is running quite high. I'm wondering what the next steps in treatment might look like from here?
So, back to the same question: is it Synthroid every morning before breakfast, or something else?

Thanks in advance. Best regards!
Brandon Newman95 Brandon Newman95 Active Member
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#260 ·
mistyhound2 said:Serum iron is honestly the worst way to track anemia caused by deficiency. Like, seriously, measuring serum iron is pointless. But of course, these clueless doctors don't have a clue. If you're anemic, you're anemic, and the cause is usually just some messed up iron balance. You should be doing other tests to actually find out why the anemia is happening in the first place. That’s supposed to be on your primary care doctor, not a gynecologist or a hematologist. You only see a specialist once your GP hits a wall with complex stuff...

My entire blood panel was a disaster. I posted it online once to get a second opinion.

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