Stay hydrated before you even feel thirsty!

Amanda Turner70 said:I don't know how you can't get it! He doesn't need peer-reviewed studies or actual science! Water fixes everything!

The only thing I'm struggling with here... is how anyone actually makes money off "medicinal water" when it's basically everywhere now... Or are we talking about some specific bottled stuff from the grocery store?

Please, don't embarrass yourself... why are you even saying such nonsense?
What's the big deal about James Newman4 recommending people drink water—whether it's tap or mineral?
And seriously, what's the price difference for a bottle of mineral water?
Or even just a glass of tap water?
This feels pretty petty to me... attacking someone for no reason on this thread just because of something unrelated... 👎

Uranus said:They’re just like the crew at Kemik!!! When does this arrogance finally end?!?

Have you guys ever actually listened to your own bodies, or did some lady scientist have to tell you how you function too?

If we were still living in an era where science hadn't even proven the Earth orbits the Sun yet, I bet you'd be the first ones lining up to throw people onto a bonfire just for suggesting otherwise!

Hmm... but I don't see that written in any of our little science textbooks... so I guess I must be the fool here... if it isn't in the books, then it clearly isn't true!🙄

Way to go, genius! 👍 🙏

James Newman4 said:Amanda Lee42, it’s not even about the weight on the scale. Inches matter more. Body fat percentage is the real metric here. And again—it isn't the fat you can see that's the issue; it's the visceral fat, the stuff tucked away around the heart and vital organs. I think you mentioned earlier that your husband was dealing with some health issues... what exactly was going on there?

ps: There's a decent nutrition seminar this Tuesday. If you want to attend, shoot me a DM. It's free, but you have to RSVP. 🙂

Are you actually trying to pitch her Herbalife?
Look, please try to understand why people on this forum can't stand you... it's because you always have an ulterior motive to sell HL. Everything you say eventually circles back to HL. You can't seem to hold a conversation about anything else without pivoting back to selling it... don't you realize you're basically the worst possible anti-Herbalife advertisement?

I know the product itself is high quality, but I just don't want anything to do with Multi-level marketing. I'd much rather just buy a meal replacement at the grocery store... and I'm definitely not the only one who feels that way.
That right there is exactly why people run away from Multi-level marketing.

Because you only make money if you're constantly selling, you never have actual downtime or a life outside of it. That's what pushes people away.

It's like every other part of your personality has vanished, leaving nothing behind but "Herbalife distributor."
Honestly, you sound a little brainwashed, almost like you belong to some religious cult.
For heaven's sake, go post in other sub-forums. Post something in Movies, Religion, Love, or Sex, just so I can see you have opinions on things other than HL. 👋

PS:
Just to be clear, nimbledriver81 is being a hundred times more patient with you than I am. 😉

Anthony Rodriguez58 said:Come on, don't make a fool of yourself... why on earth would you say something so ridiculous?
What exactly does James Newman4 have to do with recommending that people drink water—whether it's just tap water or bottled mineral water?
And really, I mean it, how much does a bottle of mineral water actually cost these days?
Or better yet, what's the price of a glass of tap water?
It seems quite narrow-minded to me—to attack someone without any valid reason, simply because they brought up something related to a different topic altogether... 👎

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I second that; it isn't just him,
it's the women here who are truly overreacting,

Anthony Rodriguez58 said:Are you going to try to sell her Herbalife?
Look, please—just try to understand why people here don't exactly gravitate toward you... it's because there's always this underlying motive to push Herbalife, isn't there? Everything you say eventually circles back to HL... you seem almost incapable of holding a conversation about anything else without veering off into an attempt to sell it... do you realize that, by doing this, you are actually the worst possible anti-Herbalife advertisement?

I mean, I know it’s a quality product, but I simply have no interest in getting involved with Multi-level marketing; I'd much rather just pick up a meal replacement at the grocery store... and honestly, I'm certainly not the only one who feels that way.
And that right there—that exact attitude—is precisely what drives people away from Multi-level marketing.

It's unlikely they'll sell me on it since I tried it ten years ago, and frankly, I doubt I could be talked into drinking that powdered miracle again—it would just be throwing money down the drain for me because I can't stay consistent.
But personally, I don't mind them promoting it; in fact, some of the posts are actually quite interesting to read.

Anthony Rodriguez58 said:So, you really think I'm gonna try to sell her Herbalife? I mean, maybe, I guess... but honestly, why would I even bother with that whole scene? It just seems like such a massive headache, you know? I don't know.
Look, man, I think you need to try and wrap your head around why everyone on this board can't stand you... it's honestly because everything you say always feels like some shady setup to push Herbalife, and it's like you can't even have a normal conversation without pivoting back to them and trying to sell us something... you get it, right? Like, you aren't even capable of talking about anything else for more than five minutes without drifting toward an MLM pitch... don't you realize that by doing that, you're basically just becoming the worst possible anti-Herbalife advertisement out there?

Look, if I invite someone to a presentation, I’m not exactly out there trying to force a sale on them or anything, I guess. It’s more like... I don't know, it's just a way to show people what's actually happening, you know? It's about letting everyone see the results for themselves and getting them convinced about the different effects, maybe. It's not a pitch, it's just sharing the facts so they can wrap their heads around it. cellular nutrition I mean, you always get way more people showing up to those kinds of seminars who have actually walked the walk and seen the results firsthand, right? And since everyone’s situation is totally different, there’s always a chance to just grab someone aside—someone who dealt with the exact same struggles you're facing—and just talk. You can usually tell pretty quickly through a real conversation whether what the speaker is saying is legit or just total nonsense. But honestly, seeing people cling to these massive prejudices without even trying to look at the facts really gets under my skin. I just don't get why people stay so superficial, constantly whining while blindly trusting whatever some doctor says, even when they could easily go out and verify everything for themselves if they actually bothered... I guess maybe they're just lazy? 😕 )

Anthony Rodriguez58 said:Look, I get it, I really do—the product itself seems solid enough, but I just can't bring myself to deal with the whole Multi-level marketing headache. It’s just not my thing, you know? I’d much rather just head down to Target or Walmart and grab some meal replacement shakes off the shelf without all the extra drama. And honestly, I'm not the only one who feels this way either; I've heard plenty of other people say the exact same thing.
I mean, honestly, that kind of approach is exactly what drives people away from Multi-level marketing in the first place, I guess.

Anthony Rodriguez58, I honestly thought you were actually being reasonable based on some of the stuff you’ve said before, but then you just go and totally blow it with a statement like this... 😁
I mean, honestly, as long as there’s actually an open and honest conversation happening, I guess people can always change their minds. Maybe. 😉

I feel like you're just totally missing the point about how "cellular nutrition" actually hits your system, and honestly, talking in circles isn't going to do anyone any good—you've gotta actually start consuming the stuff to see what I mean. I know, I know, I probably sound like a total jerk saying this, but you aren't going to find anything even remotely close to this quality just wandering the aisles of a local grocery store. It’s not even just about the individual products themselves, though; it’s more about these complete, holistic programs that were basically engineered in top-tier scientific circles and they REALLY work. 😉
Look, if I’m looking out for my own best interests, I don't really care where the stuff comes from, you know? Like, whether I'm just grabbing it off a shelf at Target or getting it through some other channel, it doesn't matter to me. As long as the thing actually works like it's supposed to, that's really all that counts, I guess.

Look, it’s not even about making sales here, which I guess you and everyone else seem to be totally missing the point on. What we’re actually trying to do is smash those tired old myths and prejudices people have about Herbalife, mostly because they're stuck on exactly what you're talking about—this whole misunderstanding of how Multi-level marketing works and how the distribution side of things actually functions.

Look, as far as I’m concerned, if people actually get the gist of what's going on after reading my posts, then I've done my job, you know? Like, they can go find ANY random Herbalife distributor out there to see for themselves if they want—it doesn't have to be me, obviously—but I guess you guys just can't seem to wrap your heads around that concept either.

Honestly, I really wish we had more people on this forum who have actually seen real results—you know, folks who actually get what they're doing instead of just talking about it. It feels like for the longest time, everyone was just whispering about Herbalife because of all those legal headaches distributors ran into back in the day, mostly thanks to that massive pharmaceutical lobby trying to protect its turf. It’s kind of ridiculous when you think about how much good this stuff can do for the body, but then again, I guess we all know exactly which big corporations lose money when people actually get healthy. Anyway, times are changing, I suppose. People are finally starting to realize what Herbalife has been preaching for the last 25 years, and I’m kind of over the whole "hush-hush" vibe. I don't want to whisper anymore; I feel like being loud and clear about it. I mean, wouldn't it be nice if someone actually stepped up and helped themselves before it was way too late?

One of those things people always bring up is water. And honestly, I think the guy who basically pioneered bottled water was actually from Herbalife. 🙂

Anthony Rodriguez58 said:It's because you only make money if you're constantly selling, which means you don't have a life or free time; you're just out there pushing products and driving everyone away.
Like, as if every single part of your personality and everything you are just boiled down to being an Herbalife distributor...
And honestly, you kind of sound brainwashed, like you're part of some weird religious cult.
Come on, for crying out loud, go post in other subforums. Write something about Movies, Religion, Love, or Sex, so I can see you actually have other opinions besides just Herbalife. 👋

I guess you don't really need to worry about my opinions on other topics because I definitely have them, but since we're strictly talking health here—and considering how nutrition is basically the root cause of like 70% of all diseases these days—I just sort of found myself getting called out to weigh in.
Then again, there's the whole thing where some people just love venting about their problems without ever actually looking at what solutions are out there, but I've realized there are plenty of smart, reasonable people without prejudices who finally found the solution they'd been searching for for ages, specifically through "cellular nutrition." 😉

I don't mean to say I'm going to change the world, but even if I manage to clear the eyes of just one person, that's a massive shift in itself, I guess.

Look, I get that my posts get under people's skin, but I've noticed people are finally starting to think for themselves instead of just reflexively saying, "Oh, they're just trying to sell me something"... I've run into so many cases where people were just trying to hustle someone for quick cash, but anyone who actually started using Herbalife and then quit usually did so because their distributor wasn't doing the most important job, which is the follow-up, or they just didn't grasp how long and how specifically you need to stick to certain programs.
I'm mostly just trying to fix those mistakes, break down those biases, and explain things as clearly as I can (though sometimes I succeed and sometimes I don't, I guess 😉).

Anthony Rodriguez58 said:PS: Just to add, on top of all that, that Kemik guy is a hundred times more annoying than you are. 😉

Come on, give me something here, 😁 👍

Amanda Lee42 said:Honestly, I don't think they're gonna be able to sell me on this stuff, because I already gave it a shot like ten years ago and, well, it's pretty hard to get myself motivated enough to actually drink that powdery miracle, you know? So for me, it’s basically just throwing money down the drain since I can never seem to stay consistent with it, I guess.
I mean, honestly, his constant self-promotion doesn't even bother me that much, I guess. To be fair, some of his posts are actually kind of interesting to read if you just sit back and dive into them.

When you start talking about that "powdered miracle" stuff, it honestly sounds exactly like the marketing fluff they put in those brochures. 😁

I mean, I honestly think consistency is probably the single most important virtue a person can have. Life just kind of works that way—it gives back exactly what you put into it, you know? Like that old saying goes, you really are what you eat, and how you treat your body basically dictates how you’re going to exit this world. It sounds easy enough to stay consistent when you actually believe in what you're doing, but let's be real, the people around you usually act like total skeptics or just bring all this negative energy that makes you start doubting yourself, too. I guess we're constantly surrounded by enough facts and evidence in our daily lives to see that staying on track—especially when it comes to your health—is actually super beneficial, even if it feels like an uphill battle sometimes.

I guess the human brain is just wired to hunt for shortcuts, you know? We’re always looking for that one easy way to get what we want without actually doing the heavy lifting, but honestly, sometimes having the right info at the right time is what actually shows you that the long way is actually the fastest route. It’s kind of funny how that works. And if you feel like you're stuck in a rut or can't see the big picture, maybe you just need to stand on your tiptoes for a second to get a better view, or just head somewhere totally new where you've never been before. If your current habits are basically just keeping you spinning your wheels, then yeah, maybe try changing them up—it might actually move the needle. Everything is pretty straightforward when you think about it; opportunities are everywhere if you look, so it really just comes down to whether we actually decide to grab them or not. 😉

I think I mentioned some recipes in another thread about how that "powdery miracle" can actually taste pretty damn good, you know? And honestly, when you stop to think about those disgusting syrups or that nasty fish oil we were all forced to choke down as kids just to stay healthy, it’s not even that hard to get on board with something that actually tastes decent. 🙂

So, like, ten years ago, most people didn't really have a clue what was actually going on with all this stuff, I guess. And honestly, Herbalife basically revamped their whole thing with this new "Shape Works" program—it’s all about protein strength or whatever—because apparently, they figured out that protein is the absolute key to actually feeling full, so now the whole vibe is just totally different. I mean, I hear it all the time from people who used to be into Herbalife back in the day, and they’re always telling me how much it's changed, so it's definitely a whole different ballgame now. 👍

@ James Newman4:
The real question here is whether this whole industry is actually heading toward a "return to nature" or if we’re just pivoting straight into "lab-grown food."

Are we talking about organic produce engineered to hit specific mineral and vitamin targets, or is it all just going to be "meal replacements"?

If they start mass-producing food in a lab, the need for actual, natural food—stuff grown with water and soaked in Sun—just vanishes. And honestly, we aren't astronauts; we still live on Earth.😉

PS:
I've sat through a few of those Multi-level marketing meetings with my husband—he just can't seem to resist their pitch. Honestly, I have to tell you, they all feel exactly the same to me. The only difference is that these guys don't shout "HALLELUJAH" at you. I just can't imagine them doing that...
What is even the point of MLM marketing, besides securing cheap labor without health insurance, steady pay, or any actual benefits?😕
Or maybe that's exactly the point?

Anthony Rodriguez58 said:James Newman4
So, I guess the real question we’re staring down here is whether society is actually heading toward some kind of massive return to nature, or if we're all just sliding headfirst into a future of eating straight-up laboratory food. It's a weird one, honestly. Maybe we'll go back to basics, or maybe we'll just be chewing on science experiments forever. Who knows?

So, what are we even talking about here? Like, are we leaning towards this whole organic food thing where everything is grown specifically to be packed with every single vitamin and mineral imaginable, or are we just going straight for those "meal replacement" shakes? I don't know, maybe it's both, or maybe it's neither, I guess. It feels like one of those endless debates where everyone thinks they've figured out the ultimate hack, but honestly, I'm just sitting here wondering if anyone actually knows which way is better.

I mean, honestly, when you start cranking out food in some sterile laboratory setting, you’re basically killing off any real need for actual, natural food—you know, the stuff that actually grows in dirt, gets watered, and sits out under the Sun. It feels kind of weird to me, I guess, because we aren't exactly astronauts living on some space station or anything; we're still just people living here on Earth. 😉

I mean, honestly, this whole "return to nature" thing people always talk about is basically impossible in the modern world, right? Like, most of us are stuck living in massive cities instead of out in the middle of nowhere, so by default, we’re just disconnected from that whole vibe anyway. I guess you could try, but when you're surrounded by concrete and skyscrapers, it's kind of hard to actually live that way. I mean, I guess if you really think about it, there's just something about that whole return to nature vibe that hits different, you know? Like, everything feels so artificial lately, and maybe I'm just overthinking things, but it feels like we're all just drifting away from what's actually good for us. It’s kind of wild how much we rely on stuff that isn't even real, but hey, that's just how things are going, I suppose. I mean, real food is just becoming harder and harder to find these days, I guess. Everything is shrinking, and because everyone is constantly chasing that massive paycheck or just trying to squeeze out every last cent of profit, the people actually making the stuff start getting desperate. They end up trying to "cut corners" or mess with the ingredients just to make things work, and honestly, I’ve been around enough to see it happen firsthand—I've actually seen it myself a few times, so yeah, it's definitely a thing. 😢 😁

I mean, look, Herbalife is basically all plant-based and totally natural, but I guess since everything actually gets tested and processed in a lab, some people just can't wrap their heads around that, you know? If they aren't convinced by the science behind it, then whatever, let them stay skeptical. It’s their loss, I suppose. I mean, I guess you could call them "safe," if that's what you're getting at, but honestly, I don't know. It feels like one of those things where everyone just assumes everything is fine without actually looking at the fine print or whatever, you know? Maybe they are, maybe they aren't, but I'm not exactly jumping for joy about it. Just my two cents, I guess. So, you really think that fruit and veggies you're picking up at the local farmers market are actually "safe" and organic... I mean, maybe, I guess, but honestly? It's kind of a stretch if you really stop to think about it. Like, just because some guy in a flannel shirt says it's grown without chemicals doesn't necessarily mean it's the real deal, you know? It’s all very "return to nature" vibes, which sounds great and everything, but who's actually checking the soil quality or making sure they aren't using some weird pesticides just to keep the bugs off? I don't know, maybe I'm being too cynical, but I feel like we just take it on faith sometimes, and in this day and age, that feels a little risky, don't you think? 😉 😁

I mean, I guess the real issue with society these days is just how much we all sit around doing absolutely nothing, you know? It’s like everyone is stuck in this sedentary loop, and if you actually wanted to get all those essential nutrients your body needs through food alone, you’d have to cram in a massive amount of calories—which, obviously, isn't exactly what anyone's aiming for. That’s basically the trap of a standard diet, I suppose. 🙂

I mean, if you just take a second to look at the nutrient density in fruits and veggies today compared to what we were getting like 10 or 20 years ago, everything might start making a whole lot more sense, I guess.

I was just scrolling through this PDF—it’s basically a deep dive into some research data spanning from 1986 all the way to 2002—and honestly, I guess it’s worth a look if you actually care about the science behind what people are putting in their bodies. It's one of those dense academic papers looking at nutritional trends and stuff over the years, and while it might seem like a total snooze fest at first glance, there’s some interesting stuff in there regarding how dietary habits have shifted in America over that sixteen-year stretch. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I feel like people nowadays just swallow whatever marketing tells them to without checking if there's any actual substance behind it, you know? Anyway, if you're into reading old-school studies and digging through the weeds of nutritional history, this might be right up your alley, though I probably wouldn't recommend it if you're looking for something quick or easy to digest. Just a heads up.

I mean, honestly... we’re living on a planet that we basically trashed ourselves, you know? It's kind of wild when you actually sit down and think about it, I guess. We just keep doing it, over and over, and now we're stuck dealing with the mess we made. 😢

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Anthony Rodriguez58 said:Don't make a fool of yourself... why are you talking such nonsense?
What does James Newman4 have to do with suggesting people drink water—just regular or sparkling?
And seriously, how much does a bottle of mineral water cost?
Or what’s the price of a glass of tap water?
This is getting pretty petty—attacking someone for zero reason just because of some other topic... 👎

So anyway...

Are you gonna try to sell her Herbalife?
Look, please try to understand why people here can't stand you... it's because you always have some hidden agenda to push HL. Everything with you eventually circles back to HL—you can't talk about anything else for more than five minutes without pivoting to selling it... don't you realize you're basically the worst anti-Herbalife advertisement ever?

Make up your mind—are you defending him or are you against him? You can't say "leave him alone" and then immediately tear him apart... 😕 😕

He started out talking about water and ended up pitching HL...

Amanda Turner70 said:He started out just talking about water and ended up hawking Herbalife...

I mean, we’re all basically made of water 😁 (like, at least 70% of us, right?) 😉

It’s kind of hilarious how you guys see a sales pitch everywhere. Every single time someone brings up basic facts about hydration, you immediately pivot to Herbalife or start whining about Multi-level marketing, and I honestly have to wonder why that is? 😕

ps: In any life situation, really, the most important word is WHY ... 🙂

hehh, watching you guys flame each other over Herbalife is actually kind of entertaining...
But seriously, did anyone bother to mention that one Herbalife perk? It cures boredom. 👍

Amanda Turner70 said:hehehe, man, watching all this flame wars and fighting over Herbalife is actually kind of entertaining...
But seriously, why haven't you mentioned how Herbalife is basically a cure for boredom?! 👍

I mean, did I really not say that already? . 😕 😉 😁

Herbalife = wellness = a whole "way of life" .. 👍

We eat healthy, stay hydrated, have fun, party, travel, work, make money, and that's pretty much it... 👍 (I guess it can't be boring if we're actually trying to live, right?) 😉



http://www.herbalifeww.com/events/atlanta2005/

ps: "if you can dream you can do it" (Walt Disney) 🙂

I haven't scrolled through this entire thread yet—and honestly, maybe someone already covered this, so bear with me if I'm repeating myself... but is Gatorade actually any good when you look at all those ingredients they say we need to hit our daily requirements?

Look, there's an entire thread about Gatorade if you really want to go dig around and get informed... personally, my "young" body just isn't feeling that stuff anymore, I guess, there's zero chance... I'd much rather just grab a Budweiser or something.. 😁







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A guy working over at a major refinery told my old lady that we shouldn't even think about letting that little startup get a foothold once they start gaining any real traction
I don't have much more info than that, to be honest...😕

Since we’re talking about beer... I tend to swap out my water intake for massive amounts of beer quite often... Is that actually doing much damage? And can beer ever really stand in for water?

No way, 🙂
just try washing your face with a beer (or maybe just take a shower) and you'll see why... 😁

plus, you're basically just packing in all those extra calories too.. 😢

ps: when they first told me I had to drink 2 liters of water a day, my first thought was honestly like.. 😁 🙂

hahaha, nice one! Why don't you try taking a shower with it and see how that goes? What does that even have to do with anything? Just go ahead—try bathing in spaghetti, fish, cheese, juice, or whatever the hell—even some Herbalife or milk—and then you can tell me if it's actually "all that"...

Honestly, I’d probably just shower in beer if I wasn't so broke right now...

And as for calories... look, if you're burning them off doing something active—like playing soccer, hitting the dance floor, or some drunken hookup in a car or a bedroom—then it's really not that big of a deal. 🙂