Stay hydrated before you even feel thirsty!

Amanda Turner70 said:LOL, okay, nice try with that one! Maybe just go take a shower and see how that works out? I don't really get what that's supposed to prove. Like, go ahead and try showering in spaghetti, fish, cheese, juice, or even all that Herbalife stuff, or milk, whatever you want, and then you can tell me if it feels great...

Anyway, I’d probably just shower in beer if I actually had enough of it on me, which I don't...

The whole point of my example was that we use water to cleanse our bodies on the inside, kind of like how we shower on the outside, you know?

ps: maybe just skim through the whole thread once in a while so we aren't repeating ourselves.. 😉

Amanda Turner70 said:So then...

Make up your mind—are you defending him or are you against him? You can't say don't touch him and then turn around and bash him... 😕 😕

He started out talking about water and ended up selling Herbalife...

Look, if you aren't getting it, I think it's pretty stupid for someone to attack James Newman4 without any actual reason.
Regarding the water thing, it makes zero sense... and I wasn't bashing James Newman4, per se. I was just giving him an example of how those kinds of posts just irritate everyone else (specifically when he starts talking about Herbalife).

If anyone's feeling super on edge lately, maybe just bump up your Vitamin B complex intake, you know, just so you don't wreck your own nerves or whatever 😁 😉

James Newman4 said:I used that analogy because you use water to clean your body on the outside, so why not use it to flush things out on the inside, right?

ps: seriously, just read the whole thread so we don't keep circling the drain.. 😉

haha, both those comparisons make about as much sense as mixing goat hair with menthol...

no offense intended, but that 🙄 😉

@Anthony Rodriguez58: sure thing, now maybe tone down what you said a bit 🙂

Amanda Turner70 said:lol yeah, both of those examples make about as much sense as mixing goat hair with menthol...
sorry, no offense intended, but that 🙄 😉

Now you probably think I’m just being a clown here, but honestly, this is straight facts.
Water:
• It helps you digest, absorb, and basically flush out all the stuff you eat
• It assists in getting waste products out of your gut and kidneys
(think of it like taking a shower, you know? like washing yourself out from the inside—kind of like the difference between a clear mountain stream and some stagnant pond)
• It keeps your joints and membranes lubricated
• Your blood is roughly 92% water (if you don't have enough, your blood gets thick and your heart has to work way harder to pump it)
• Blood is basically the body's 'transport system' that's constantly moving nutrients everywhere (and thicker blood just moves slower)
• Body secretions and digestive juices are almost entirely water (your digestive system churns out something like 57 ounces of saliva every single day!)

🙂 👍

Since we're throwing numbers around... let's say your little comparison is only about 16% accurate...

As for the rest—look, sometimes people just talk nonsense because they’re basing everything on some random flyers and brochures instead of actually doing the homework (trust me, a little expertise goes a long way)—but hey, whatever 🙂 isn't the end of the world, haha.

Amanda Turner70 said:haha, both those examples make about as much sense as mixing goat hair with menthol...

No offense intended, but that 🙄 😉

@Anthony Rodriguez58: sure, why don't you just tone down what you said? 🙂

Please, stop suffocating us with these kindergarten jokes.🙄

Amanda Turner70 said:Since we’re already throwing around percentages like they actually mean something... let's just say if your little comparison is only about 16% accurate, then I guess we're basically just talking in circles here.

As for everything else, I mean, you kind of just blurt out random stuff sometimes because you're basing your whole argument on some random emails and glossy brochures instead of actually doing the homework, I guess. Like, maybe if you actually educated yourself a bit more, you’d come across as a little more legit or whatever, but hey, it is what it is. 🙂 It’s really not that big of a deal, haha.

Are you talking to me? ... 😕 😎

Look, everyone’s got their own take on things, I get it, and usually that comes down to whatever info they've picked up or what they think they know from experience. But honestly, my whole perspective is basically just based on trying to use some actual common sense without letting any biases get in the way. Most of where I get my facts comes from UCLA and the researchers over there, who are pretty much the gold standard when it comes to this stuff. They're the big shots in the field, you know? Like, they have massive amounts of experience and serious credibility when it comes to studying nutrition and how food actually impacts human health.

If you want to talk about actual expertise in this field, we’re talking about Dr. David Heber. Honestly, he’s been my mentor, and I’ve got some of his videos right here that pretty much back up everything he says. If you really need to wrap your head around who he is and just how much he actually knows, you should probably check out his bio—it speaks for itself. And hey, if you're one of those people who won't be satisfied until you've hunted down every single scientific paper, well, you'll find exactly what you're looking for. 😁 ):

So, I was just digging through this PDF from the UCLA medical site—you know, that study by Dr. David Heber—and it’s got me thinking about all the noise people make online. It’s one of those deep dives into nutrition science that makes you question a lot of what we see in mainstream ads, I guess. It’s pretty heavy stuff if you actually sit down and read it, but it definitely touches on some points that tie back into those whole Multi-level marketing debates we've been having here. I don't know, maybe I'm overthinking it, but seeing actual research from an institution like UCLA kind of puts things in perspective when you're looking at how certain products claim to work versus what the data actually shows. Just something to chew on while you're scrolling through these threads, I suppose.

So, basically, he said:

"I mean, I guess if I’m being totally honest, Herbalife pretty much changed my entire life. It's kind of wild when you think about it, though maybe I'm just overthinking things, but yeah, everything feels different now. So, I’ve been stuck in this nutrition game for like 25 years now, basically spending my whole life trying to overhaul how people eat and, I guess, change their lives in the process. My whole goal was to take nutrition and make it actually fun, simple, almost like magic—that’s just the way we do things at Herbalife. I’ve traveled pretty much everywhere on the planet, and after spending countless hours buried in lab work, I’ve put out over 120 research papers. I’ve even got seven professors working under me over at UCLA, plus seven research associates, a staff of 35, and about 10,000 square feet of lab space. We actually have the "Mark Hughes cellular-molecular" lab right there at UCLA. What we’re really doing is becoming experts in every single niche of nutrition across the globe. We’re building programs for the future that, if everything goes right, should solve all the nutritional problems facing the world. See, the thing is, most people just let their taste buds call the shots when they pick food, instead of eating what their bodies actually need. But the first rule of Herbalife is that it gives you exactly what you need, which is something most people haven't really integrated into their diet yet. In a lot of different countries, you've got these medical boards that come in and set all the rules. And you know how they make those rules? They basically just pick something out of thin air and decide it’s the law. 😁 We’re gonna shake things up big time at Herbalife. No more of those crazy rules that don't make any sense, I guess. Our plan is basically to go into every single country on the map and just crush this whole epidemic of terrible nutrition that seems to be everywhere these days. We aren't just stopping at 60 countries anymore; we're going global, like, everywhere. And we'll have actual doctors and scientists working right alongside the government, while the doctors work directly with you guys, kind of like how things are running today, I suppose.

So, when I first got into Herbalife, I actually took a second to read the label, and man, it kind of blew my mind. Like, it’s literally just that same soy protein we spent like twenty years grinding away at in research labs—it's easily the best protein you can find on the planet. Anyway, I wanted to introduce you guys to Dr. Morris; her research (check out this photo) was published back in an American nutrition journal in '99, and honestly, it shows some really positive stuff if you look closely. The thing is, Herbalife actually knew about this back in 1982. I mean, we scientists are apparently pretty slow on the uptake, I guess, because it took us a whole seventeen years just to finally catch up to what they were doing. ...

So, I’ve been doing this thing where I mix my Formula 1 protein powder—just two scoops, really—then I toss in some blueberries and soy milk, hit it with the blender, and call it a day. Even on those days when I’m being pretty lazy and haven't moved much, I still make sure to get my shake in. After that, I usually head over to hit the weights for a bit. Honestly, it’s actually working; I’ve already dropped about 28 pounds, and my waist went from a 38 down to a 34... though, I guess I might be slightly off on the exact measurement there, who knows? 😕 ) and man, I’ve put on like 10 pounds of pure muscle, and honestly, I feel incredible. Herbalife basically completely flipped my life around—made me a better person, period. I’m standing taller, actually comfortable in my own skin, and my energy levels are through the roof. Even if I somehow make it to 100, I don't think I could ever touch even a fraction of the impact or save nearly as many lives as I can by teaming up with all of you, this massive million-person army of Herbalife distributors changing things. ... So, when I start writing my book, "L.A. SHAPE DIET," I’m putting a dedication in there that says: "If you've saved just one life, you've saved the whole world." That’s really what your mission is when it comes to nutrition.

I mean, if a guy like that (you know, a scientist) is still this hyped up after 25 years, it shouldn't be hard to figure out what's actually going on here, and anyone who's actually felt those changes in themselves knows it deep down. . 👍

"Making the world healthier..." 👋

Anthony Rodriguez58 said:Come on, don't embarrass yourself... why are you talking such nonsense?
What does James Newman44 have to do with recommending that people drink water, whether it's tap or bottled?
And please, tell me, how much does a bottle of mineral water actually cost?
Or how much does a glass of tap water cost?
It feels really petty to me, attacking someone for no reason in this thread just because of some other topic... 👎

Well, Anthony Rodriguez58, the reason is simple. No matter what topic gets started, James Newman44 ALWAYS ends up trying to sell his "miracle" healing powder.
You even said yourself that he doesn't post anywhere else except in the health section, so basically, he just uses this forum as his own personal billboard.
As for his morals, I'd rather not even go there. Our dear friend here has popped up on several different threads rambling about how amazing and healing Herbalife products are. He even tried to push them onto people with sick children using some pretty nasty comments. His logic is that there's a "cure" for permanent healing (he makes a distinction between a cure and "healing," apparently), but the problem is that we just don't want to give it to our kids.
Honestly, I don't even feel like writing more about him.
He gave me a little laugh, though—and laughter is good for the soul!
Personally, I think he (and any future clones!) should be banned from the forum. His entire presence here boils down to selling Herbalife. Everything he writes is just a copy-paste job from promotional flyers and brochures; there isn't a single original thought or personal experience in there. An experience like "I cram this into my body and I feel great" doesn't mean anything. It's like saying someone feels great after a cup of milk every morning—if I drank that for three days straight, I'd be stuck in bed!
The only original thing about him is those sexist comments. He's your typical construction site guy.

I can't say I agree with banning James Newman4 and people like him—just because you don't care for someone's vibe doesn't mean everyone else feels the same way, right? Like you said yourself, it’s all about perspective.
People aren't incapable of thinking for themselves; they can weigh the pros and cons without being babysat.
The only thing I'm actually curious about is whether anyone here is using Herbalife strictly for their own health—you know, purely for wellness rather than trying to flip it to others via Multi-level marketing.
The internet is essentially just a massive pool of information—whether that data is accurate or totally bogus is up to the user; we really shouldn't be acting like our own little board of censors.
And honestly, if he was making sexist remarks, what kind of mess are you all getting yourselves into by grouping him in with you?

Look, it’s not even his fault—or his way of selling things. The real issue is that we've been conditioned by those endless late-night infomercials peddling everything from protein powders and herbal extracts to Amazonian frog secretions, miracle creams, fitness gadgets, "healing" air, and magnetic energy fields. Every single one of them claims to be revolutionary. They find some niche scientists who swear it changed their lives, claim there are zero side effects, say anyone can use it, and promise it'll fix everything from cancer to baldness—just call $100 right now! But wait, there's more! You'll get a bonus video worth $127 absolutely free, but only if you call this second!

Sound familiar? Huge similarities to Herbalife, right?

@Anthony Rodriguez58: Just take your meds and go to bed.

Anthony Rodriguez58 said:....

PS:
I just wanted to mention that, on top of everything else, working with Kemik is a hundred times more exhausting than dealing with you!😉

Kemik deserves some serious payback.
Let's run him through the wringer!

jadesailor14 said:Kemik deserves some serious discipline.
Just throw them straight into the blender!

And then—for a little touch of class—top the whole thing off with strawberries and fresh cream cheese. 🙂

nimbledriver81 said:Then top it off with some strawberries and fresh cream cheese. 🙂

I just popped a cherry and currant yogurt cake from my local bakery into the fridge. It looks amazing! 😍, all marbled with light and dark red swirls. It’s not too sweet and super fluffy.

But jadesailor14 can't have any 🙂 🙂 🙂.

jadesailor14 said:I just slid a cherry and currant cake from my garden patch into the fridge with some yogurt. It looks great.😍, all marbled with light and dark red and white. Not too sweet, just really fluffy.

But jadesailor14 isn't allowed to eat 🙂 🙂 🙂.

jadesailor14, I am so jealous! Especially with those cherries and currants! Can I have some? Please? 🙂 🙂 🙂

James Newman4
If you want to stay hydrated, you've gotta keep sipping even when you aren't feeling thirsty. During the summer, don't let your intake drop below two liters a day. Grab some mineral water that packs at least 500 mg of salt per liter. Also, steer clear of booze—it messes with how your body regulates temperature. Just remember, your system burns through alcohol incredibly fast (1 g = 7 calories), which actually heats you up more.

1 g of alcohol = 7 kcal x 4.18 = roughly 30 kJ

Alcohol might enter the metabolism to produce energy, but mostly it’s just a toxin the liver has to detoxify since it can't be properly integrated into metabolic pathways.

Plus, alcohol blocks the release of ADH (antidiuretic hormone), so a drunk person ends up peeing out way more fluid than they're taking in. That's why you wake up hungover from dehydration and dropping glucose levels.

You should be aiming for about 4-5 g of salt daily (I mean, even bread has salt in it).

👋

Amanda Lee42 said:I don't really see the point in banning James Newman4 and those other guys, I guess. Like, just because you aren't feeling it doesn't mean everyone else is on the same page, you know? It’s kind of like what you said yourself when you flipped that sentence around earlier.
Look, I mean, people aren't exactly idiots, right? Like, most of us are actually capable of thinking for ourselves and using a little common sense when we need to. Everything out there—every product, every idea, whatever—it all has its own set of pros and cons, I guess. You just have to weigh them up yourself.
I was just sitting here wondering if anyone else on this forum actually uses Herbalife just for their own health, you know, like for the actual nutritional side of things, rather than being all about that Multi-level marketing grind and trying to flip products to everyone they meet? I guess I'm just curious if there are any real users here who aren't trying to recruit someone or sell a dream.
Look, the internet is just a massive dump of information, right? Whether that stuff is actually legit or just complete garbage... I mean, that's on us. We don't really need to go around acting like our own little censors or playing moral police, I guess. It’s all out there anyway.
If he was out there dropping sexist comments, I mean, what kind of absolute mess can you even expect your guys to be in? It’s like, honestly, if that's the vibe he's putting out, you have to wonder what kind of total disaster zone you're dealing with overall, I guess.

Amanda Lee42, you hit the nail on the head... I mean, I try to stick to actual facts and logic myself, rather than all that mindless gossip and hearsay that seems to be the foundation for most people hanging out in this group, which is honestly pretty pathetic if you think about it. It’s just sad because those are always the loudest voices in the room, and I guess any sane person would just avoid getting into a shouting match with types like that... but then again, maybe I'm just not exactly sane. 😲 I mean, honestly, it’s actually started to become kind of entertaining at this point... 😉 😁

So, I was actually one of the first people to jump on the Herbalife bandwagon because I really thought it was going to do wonders for my health, but honestly? It feels like it’s doing absolutely nothing for me at all. Maybe I'm just doing it wrong or something, I don't know, but so far, it's kind of a bust. 😲 😁

I guess those sexist comments he keeps bringing up are pretty much the only thing that actually gets people excited on this forum, which is kind of sad if you think about it. But honestly, I'm just not one of those guys who spends all day playing nice and handing out empty compliments; I’d rather just tell it like it is, whether it hurts someone's feelings or not, I suppose. 😉 😁

Amanda Turner70 said:I mean, honestly, it’s not really his fault or even the way he’s pushing things. I guess the real issue is that we've been conditioned to swallow this stuff for years. You see it all over those late-night QVC or Home Shopping Network marathons—just endless pitches for protein powders, herbal extracts, some random root from the Amazon rainforest, miracle creams, fitness gadgets, "healing" air, magnetic energy fields... you name it. And every single one of them is sold as this massive, life-changing breakthrough. They always have these scientists swearing on their lives that it completely transformed their existence, claiming there are zero side effects or downsides, telling you anyone can use it, and promising it'll fix everything from cancer to baldness if you just call right now. $100 But honestly, that's not even the best part—you’re also gonna get this whole video package worth a decent chunk of change, too. $127 It’s totally free, but you gotta call right away if you actually want it!
Does that sound familiar to anyone else? I mean, seriously, the similarities to Herbalife are kind of hard to ignore, don't you think? Maybe it's just me, but it feels like we've seen this exact same thing before.

Look, if you can't see the distinction and you're just gonna lump everything together into one big messy pile, then I guess logic and facts aren't really gonna do much to help you get it, you know? Not that I'm blaming you or anything, though... at least you're having a good time hanging out here, right? 😉 😁

James Newman4 said:Amanda Lee42, you hit the nail on the head! I definitely prefer sticking to facts and actual logic rather than listening to all that neighborhood gossip and hearsay.

Oh, for sure. You post those "before and after" photos where, honestly, even I can see they look like two completely different people!
That’s what real proof looks like.

James Newman4 said:I was actually one of the first people to try Herbalife specifically for my health, but honestly, it doesn't feel like it's doing much for me? 😲 😁

Could you share how exactly Herbalife helped you out?
For my overall wellness.

jadesailor14 said:Look, Anthony Rodriguez58, the reason is pretty simple. No matter what topic gets started, James Newman4 ALWAYS ends up pivoting back to selling his miracle healing powder.
She even admitted herself that he doesn't post anywhere else except in the health section—so basically, this forum is just free ad space for him.
As for his moral compass... honestly, it's better not to go there. Our dear James Newman4 has rambled on several other threads about how Herbalife products have this magical, curative power. He actually tried to push it on people—using some pretty nasty remarks—who have sick children in their families. Apparently, there’s a "cure" for permanent healing of illnesses (he makes this distinction, saying it's not a "cure," but a "permanent healing"), but the problem is supposedly us... because we don't want to give it to our kids.
Actually, I don't even feel like writing more about him.
It was slightly amusing, and laughter is good for you, I guess...
Personally, I think he—and all his future clones—should be banned from the forum. His entire presence here boils down to nothing but selling Herbalife. Everything he writes is just a carbon copy of some marketing flyers or brochures; there isn't a single shred of his own opinion or actual experience. An "experience" like "I shove this down my throat and I feel great" doesn't mean anything. Someone else could drink a cup of milk every morning and feel great, but if I drink it for three days, I'm sick.
The only original thing about him is his sexist comments.

There you have it.