Eating in the ZONE

Steve's greeting

What's the flavor actually like? The book says it tastes like sweet licorice... What's that even mean? Any real comparisons?
Does that stevia taste bleed into sweet dishes then?

I don't actually cook oats; I just prep quick oats. Basically, I throw 3 cups of water in a pot, add a pinch of salt, and toss in 30 grams of oats—that counts as two carb blocks. Crank the heat until it hits a boil, then drop it down to a simmer for about 5 or 6 minutes until the oats soak everything up. Sometimes I have to stir it so it doesn't stick to the bottom since it gets pretty thick. Once the heat's off, I pop a lid on and let it sit for an hour or two to set. Then, I mix in about a third of a container (from a 500g tub) of Dole low-fat cottage cheese. Mix it well and it’s killer. It keeps you full forever. Other times, I'll take two scoops of protein powder, whisk it with a bit of lukewarm water to make a creamy paste, and fold that into the oats. I love both ways—one savory, one sweet.
To cut to the chase, I usually boil 90 grams of oats in 9 cups of water—that's 6 carb blocks—and split it into three bowls with 2 blocks each. You could also do two bowls with 3 blocks each if you want to bump up the protein.

Rachel Walker56, mind if I ask how many blocks you're hitting daily? Thanks...🙂

When I’m actually staying on top of things—3 for breakfast, 3 for lunch, 1 snack, 2 for dinner, and 1 late-night bite (usually just a cup of warm milk)—that puts me at 10. Sometimes it hits 11 if it’s one of those brutal days where I need a boost between meals, like some yogurt or an acidophilus drink. I make sure I don't let five hours slip by without eating, and breakfast is non-negotiable. If I have to rush out the door to work without eating, I end up starving by the afternoon and can't resist the candy aisle. So yeah, breakfast is my insurance policy against evening binges. 😛

Isn't 10 blocks a bit light? Seems low to me. I'm following the rules perfectly and I'm still starving. Maybe just sugar withdrawal hitting me...😁

I’ve slogged through all those books on nutrition in zone, and honestly? It’s all about hormone balance. They control whether you’re starving or stuffed, and you can basically hack them using just food and exercise. It takes time for the gears to turn—getting insulin and glucagon to play nice before you see any actual progress. You can go heavy on the veggies—broccoli, cauliflower, peppers, leafy greens, green beans, cucumbers, tomatoes—basically anything high-fiber to fill you up. If hunger hits, lean into the fats. Grab some olives with cheese and rye bread, or just snack on almonds. Fats keep you full without messing with your insulin levels while you're adjusting. Giving up sweets is brutal; I’m an addict myself. In the beginning, I’d stick to two blocks of good carbs (mostly veggies), but I always had to end a big meal with a square of dark chocolate, maybe a dried apricot, or a slice of banana. The point is, nothing is off-limits. You can eat everything, but watch the math. If you want ice cream after dinner, that’s your entire carb allotment for that meal right there—no fruit, no veggies. Make a choice. You aren't in a prison camp; don't torture yourself with starvation, because it won't work. If you slip up, just pivot—grab a hard-boiled egg, a bit of cheese, or some chicken to balance things out. If 10 blocks isn't cutting it, try 11 or 12 and see how your weight moves, then maybe trim a block from lunch or dinner later. It's all an experiment to find what works for you. Maybe you need more carbs depending on your body. Personally, carbs stick to my ribs like glue, so I bump up the protein and scale back the carbs. Just keep testing.
Good luck!

Thanks a ton! 👍

Protein powder

So, I’m wondering which protein powders you guys use for making those yogurts and stuff... Been thinking about it, and honestly, I don't want any GMO soy messing with my head. I saw in a cook book that they mentioned that Twinlab's Veggie Fuel, the soy protein one. Since that's made in the USA, and everything there is basically loaded with GM soy... anyone know of a brand that definitely doesn't use GMO soy protein or is just straight-up non-GMO? Thanks...

I picked up some Stevia at Whole Foods. I’m honestly not sure if I can get used to it... it has this intense sweetness that feels kind of aggressive... I just can't stand it in my coffee... personally, I think I’d have an easier time switching to black coffee than trying to drink coffee with Stevia...
I guess I’ll have to try those sweet recipes from the cookbooks that use Stevia, or maybe some tea... hopefully it turns out better that way...
Does anyone else actually like it?😕

Kenneth Price8 said:Protein powder

So, here’s the thing—I’m curious about which protein powders you all use for making those yogurts and similar treats? I’ve been mulling it over, and honestly, my biggest hesitation is the idea of genetically modified soy. I was reading through a cookbook recently, and it mentioned using that Veggie Fuel from Twinlab—you know, the soy proteins. But since that’s produced right here in the USA, and let's be real, so much of the soy produced in the States is heavily GM... well, it makes me nervous! Does anyone know of a brand that definitely avoids GM soy proteins, or is just generally non-GMO? Thanks!

You might want to check out a local health food store. There's a BioVega over on Broadway, near where that Briton shop is, but from what I've gathered, their prices are absolutely eye-watering. I went in there looking for some tofu once and I nearly fainted when I saw the price tag!
Aside from ethical concerns, I don't think there's much reason to be terrified of GM food. In a way, almost everything we consume involves some level of GM, one way or another.

briskfalcon15 said:Gonna have to test out those sweet recipes from the cook using Stevia, maybe even some tea... might actually help...
Anyone else actually liking this...😕

Made that lemon pudding today using Dodo's recipe. Dodo, it was killer...👍 Mom won't even try it because of Steve... man, she's such a drama queen...🙄
Can't even taste it in that pudding, but I made some vanilla cream in a mug today and there's this tiny bit of bitterness from the Stevia... idk, doesn't really bother me, but mom will catch on instantly if I try to pull a fast one on her...😁

briskfalcon15, just a couple drops of Steve's in my green tea works for me... don't even touch coffee...

Kenneth Price8 said:briskfalcon15, I find that two drops of Steve's in my green flavored tea is perfect, but I don't really do coffee.

Maybe I'll give two drops in my coffee a shot too... and definitely try it in green tea!!!
It’s not even the bitterness that bothers me, it’s more that aggressive sweetness... kind of like when I take a sip of a cappuccino and hit an undissolved Nutrena tablet in the foam🙂 )

briskfalcon15 said:Maybe I'll give it a shot by adding just two drops into my coffee... I might even try it with some green tea and see what happens!
It isn't even the bitter aftertaste that gets to me; it’s this aggressive, cloying sweetness. It reminds me of those moments when I take a sip of a cappuccino and hit an undissolved chunk of Nutraena sitting right there in the foam.🙂 )

I picked up some Steve's before heading into work this morning. I whipped up a quick cup of instant coffee, added a few drops, and gave it a taste test. After a quick trip to the restroom to pour out the rest, I decided to pass the bottle along to a colleague of mine who’s strictly following the Montignac way. 😁
I’ve finally transitioned to drinking my coffee black, and honestly, I’ve gotten completely used to it. These days, I rarely touch added sugar at all; even when I have tea, I take it plain or perhaps with just a tiny drizzle of honey.

MacGregor said:In his book, Dr. Barry Sears points out that "most nutritional theories suggest a so-called food pyramid where the bulk of calories come from carbohydrates." I suppose that isn't entirely accurate, given that there is a company—Herbalife—that actually began championing the importance of protein in one's diet over 25 years ago. They offered specific, straightforward solutions, such as Formula 1, through practical application (though they didn't ignore carbohydrates entirely, much like Atkins). It seems quite similar to "nutrition in zone," perhaps even more so when you consider the various logistical hurdles; it's arguably simpler, cheaper, and more widely accepted... 🙂

I find myself agreeing with this... I personally tried that Herbalife regimen. Granted, I only stuck with it for a single month, but it is effective, which is what matters most to me. My primary focus is on overall health, rather than just weight loss.

My father used it for about six months, and he doesn't suffer from those frequent sore throats anymore; in fact, I believe even his vision has improved.👍

Megan Brooks11 said:I’m with you on this... I tried that Herbalife stuff myself... I mean, I only stuck with it for about a month, but honestly, it works, and more importantly, it actually does something for your health... I’m talking about wellness here, not just trying to drop a few pounds.

My old man used it for like six months straight and he doesn't deal with those throat infections anymore, and I think his vision even cleared up a bit, I guess.👍

I’m kind of leaning towards what MacGregor said too,
Personally, I've had some really great experiences with it, and I honestly feel like it's such a shame there aren't more people (around here on the forum) using cell nutrition who actually want to share their stories and show what they've achieved... 🙂

It seems like we’re just stuck with all these prejudices and stereotypes because of the way those aggressive distributors try to grab everyone's attention, acting like there's this one simple trick to fix or restore your health... and unfortunately, it feels like people here talk more about the person peddling the product than the actual message being delivered, which I guess is just a sign of how shallow everything has become... 😢

Plus, a lot of folks just pigeonhole Herbalife as some "diet pill" thing because of that annoying "want to lose weight easy? just ask me" vibe that distributors carry around... but they act like that because obesity is basically a global epidemic now, and even here in the States, over 50% of people are overweight, and we all know where that road leads—straight into a bunch of other health issues.



Nutrition in zone is definitely the way to go, and it's a solid way for people to finally realize that eating right can actually overhaul your health, but I guess in reality, most people find it pretty tough to pull off since it takes so much time and effort. What a lot of people don't seem to grasp, though—and it's kind of sad—is that most food nowadays doesn't even come close to having the nutrient density it had 10 or 20 years ago, so you can't even be sure if you're getting the vital stuff your body actually needs. (With Herbalife, you get a lot more peace of mind regarding that quality) .. 🙂

At the end of the day, combining nutrition in zone with cell nutrition is pretty much the perfect setup, and it's something I'd recommend from the bottom of my heart... 🙂 👍

Regarding protein powder—Dr. Grbac Gredelj told me today that they have Veggie Fuel over at the Twinlab in El Paso, though I actually picked up some powder from Helix the other day, so I guess the Veggie Fuel can wait a few weeks. I haven't run into Steve yet, but I'm looking for him.
I'm really interested in Omega-3. I just can't seem to find any fish oil that's 60% purified, so I've been taking three capsules of the 30% stuff instead—does anyone happen to know where I can find the better stuff???

Best,

silentbison42 said:Regarding protein powder—Dr. Grbac Gredelj informed me today that Veggie Fuel is available at the Twinlab store over in El Paso—though I actually picked up some protein powder from Helix the other day, so my Veggie Fuel purchase will have to wait a few weeks. I haven't run into Steve yet, but I am looking for him.
I am personally interested in Omega-3. I simply cannot find any fish oil that is 60% purified, so I have been taking three capsules of the 30% variety—does anyone happen to know where I might find the higher concentration?

Steve's greeting

Steve—there is some available at that herbal pharmacy near the start of Martić's, I believe it costs about $13—it comes in drops, if I recall correctly... and it lasts quite a long time.

silentbison42 said:I'm really looking for some decent Omega-3. I can't seem to find any fish oil that's actually 60% pure, so right now I'm just taking three capsules of this 30% stuff... does anyone actually know where to find the good stuff???

Honestly, my go-to is definitely the Herbalife line!!!

For people who only manage to eat fish once a week—or maybe don't eat it at all because they're too busy to deal with the prep work—the Herbalife line gives you Omega-3 in these tiny little capsules that are super easy to swallow.

I think most of us still have those memories of having to choke down a giant spoonful of fish oil every single day when we were kids just for "health." And man, I still remember how absolutely gross that tasted.

But the new Herbalife formula has this "anti-reflux" thing going on, which pretty much kills that nasty fishy aftertaste you get while taking it or later during digestion. They did it by adding essential oils like thyme, peppermint, and clove. Plus, the new formula actually packs about 42% more Omega-3 than before!

http://www.herbalife.com/hl/template...c_subcat_heart

http://www.herbalife.com/files/HL//M...0-01_120cc.pdf

I mean, I only use the best stuff, I guess!!! 👍

It all sounds wonderful and lovely, but nowhere does it actually say what percentage of purified fish oil was used to make this, which is really the most important part.🙄

silentbison42 said:That all sounds lovely and all, but nowhere does it actually say how much purified fish oil is even in there, which is kind of the whole point, isn't it?🙄

I mean, I personally just trust the scientific team behind this stuff, so I don't really see a reason to go doubting their quality or the ratios they use. I'm pretty sure they know way more than we do—better than you, better than me, and definitely better than most people out there—so I don't really waste my energy stressing over it too much.

Plus, I know for a fact that they started making this product at Herbalife back in the old days of 1984, when most people hadn't even heard of this stuff, let alone understood how it affects health. There was even a lawsuit filed by certain circles in the pharmaceutical industry in a US court because they claimed it was "spreading misinformation" by saying Omega-3 is good for you. To make matters worse, the court actually hit Herbalife with a $750,000 fine back then. (And honestly, nowadays, even a kid could tell that what they were saying was true.) 😲

Look, this isn't some sales pitch; these are just facts based on about 20 years of perfecting those ratios and leaning on the smartest minds in the field.

At the end of the day, everyone just picks whatever they think is best and makes their own call based on the info they have... 🙂