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Gerald Grant59 Gerald Grant59 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2013
#101 ·
If they aren't happy, they can just walk out and leave their spots open for someone who actually wants to work.
My old man needed surgery for a tumor, and it got pushed back because of this strike—even though he’s spent his entire life paying into health insurance just so those people can enjoy their fat paychecks.
I pull in $800 a month, and I’d really love to know what these strikers are making... What I want is for doctors, farmers, and everyone else to finally realize that we're all struggling out here—it's incredibly rude to hold an entire nation hostage just to satisfy their own demands.
And this specific strike? Seriously, folks—you don't work at a circus, you work in hospitals!

Honestly, if you ask me, they should spend every cent of that settlement and then refuse them entry to the hospital—since, hey, it's a strike.
Jamie Rivera78 Jamie Rivera78 Member
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joined Nov 2016
#102 ·
What’s even the point of having supplemental insurance if you can’t actually use the services you’re paying for during a strike? Are they going to give us our money back for the coverage we can't touch?
It's pretty obvious the government wants this strike to drag on. Less spending now means less they have to bail out later.
mistyjackal842 mistyjackal842 Active Member
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joined May 2012
#103 ·
And they actually have the nerve to claim this strike is all for the patient's sake. Like it’s somehow supposed to help them.

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Mark White2 Mark White2 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2012
#104 ·
Gerald Grant59 said:If they aren't happy with how things are going, they should probably just step aside and let someone who actually wants to work take over.
My old man really needed surgery for a tumor,but everything got pushed back because of this strike, even though he’s paid into the healthcare system his whole life just so those people can collect their fancy salaries.
I pull in $800 a month, and I honestly wonder what these strikers are even making... I just wish doctors, farmers, and everyone else would realize that we're all struggling out here, and it feels pretty rude to hold the whole country hostage just to get what they want.
Especially this particular strike... I mean, guys, you work in hospitals, not some circus!

Honestly, if you ask me, they should probably spend all that extra money they're fighting for and then tell them they can't get treated at the hospital—since they're on strike and all.


If you get your way, your dad might end up being operated on by some amateur who's just trying to help out.

But yeah, I'm with you; all these specialists should probably just move to more developed countries where expertise is actually rewarded with decent pay, and then you guys can just deal with whoever else shows up to do the job.
Mark White2 Mark White2 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2012
#105 ·
melloworca6 said:I'm with you on that. 🙂

And honestly, they aren't even asking for some crazy perks or massive raises right now. They’re just asking to be paid for the hours they actually put in, just like they always have.

Man, if only everyone else would catch on to that.

It's kind of wild that we're living in the 21st century and people are still acting shocked when someone expects to get paid overtime.
Thomas Wilson4 Thomas Wilson4 Member
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joined Aug 2012
#106 ·
I was driving a friend over to the local hospital—one of those big city trauma centers—late Friday night because she was bleeding like crazy. And get this: the nurse in OBGYN was incredibly rude. She straight-up told us it wasn't an emergency and refused to call a doctor. Naturally, I lost my cool and got into it with her... then she had the nerve to tell me, "Don't talk to me like that." Like, excuse me? You aren't some celebrity protected by a press corps, lady. I’ll find out who you are eventually.

So, we bailed and headed over to the Mercy Hospital instead... and man, what a difference. The nurse there was actually kind, not a total nightmare. The doctor was right there on the floor, too; she showed up within three minutes of being called, and we had everything sorted out in fifteen. Seriously, huge props to them!

edit: oh, and one more thing... before we even left the house for that first hospital, I called ahead to explain the situation and make sure they could take us. They said yes. So for her to look us in the face later and say, "I can't just turn people away over the phone!" is absolute insanity. We could have just gone straight to Mercy and saved ourselves all that wasted time and headache.
electricmaker49 electricmaker49 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Oct 2013
#107 ·
It’s always the folks struggling most who end up getting the short end of the stick. A doctor walks into a clinic with a guaranteed paycheck, while someone living paycheck to paycheck is already dealing with enough stress—then they get sick on top of it and have to sit on a waiting list indefinitely. It’s just how the system works, I guess. Frustrating as hell. 🙂
Joseph Hughes Joseph Hughes Newcomer
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joined Sep 2013
#108 ·
Hold on a second—what else are doctors supposed to do besides strike? After at least 12 years of pure grind, blood, sweat, and tears through med school, residency, and fellowships—they’re pulling in the same salary as some mid-level manager at a random corporation? Honestly, why wouldn't they walk out? They shouldn't just sit there quietly and work themselves into the ground like idiots.
Thomas Wilson4 Thomas Wilson4 Member
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joined Aug 2012
#109 ·
Joseph Hughes said:Hold up, why wouldn't doctors strike? After grinding through at least 12 years of hell, blood, sweat, and tears in med school, residency, and fellowships—they end up making the same paycheck as some mid-level manager at a tech firm? So yeah, they should strike. Why would they just shut up and keep busting their asses like idiots?

If you want some corporate manager to pull in doctor money, you better be prepared to bleed and sacrifice just as much!! Don't judge a pair of shoes you haven't even walked in... trust me, I know.
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
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joined Feb 2007
#110 ·
I’m all for a strike, but not when it involves throwing it in patients' faces. Lately, I’ve been reading and hearing some absolutely horrific stories, especially regarding oncology patients. It is completely unacceptable to have things like spinal taps being postponed, or seeing patients discharged without pain management or any follow-up instructions. Honestly, I fear that someone who tramples over the basic rights of others won't be in much of a position to effectively fight for their own. This just isn't the way to do it.
mistyjackal842 mistyjackal842 Active Member
206 messages
joined May 2012
#111 ·
How long is this strike actually supposed to last? I thought they said it was going to be called off already.

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Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
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joined Feb 2007
#112 ·
mistyjackal842 said:How much longer is this strike actually going to drag on? I thought everyone agreed it was being called off.

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Until the collective bargaining agreement is signed.
mistyjackal842 mistyjackal842 Active Member
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joined May 2012
#113 ·
I mean, how many more people have to die before they finally sign that collective bargaining agreement? It’s just... you can really feel it. People are putting in way less effort than they were at the start of the year, back before all this striking started. Even the most critical patients seemed to have a better shot at recovery back then. The nurses were definitely working harder earlier this year compared to now, during the strike—and even now, when the nursing and tech strike is supposedly over.
Joseph Hughes Joseph Hughes Newcomer
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joined Sep 2013
#114 ·
mistyjackal842 said:How many more people have to die before they finally sign that collective bargaining agreement? Honestly, you can really feel how much less work is getting done compared to the start of the year—back before the strike started. Even the most critical patients seemed to have a better shot at recovery then. The nurses were putting in so much more effort earlier this year than they are now during this whole strike situation, and that's even saying something, considering the nursing and tech strike is supposedly already over.

Talk about being dramatic. No one has died because of the doctors' strike—ER visits aren't being turned away, and emergency surgeries and treatments for life-threatening illnesses aren't being delayed.
mistyjackal842 mistyjackal842 Active Member
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joined May 2012
#115 ·
I’m speaking from what my own mother went through... she developed sepsis due to total medical neglect at the hospital because they just didn't catch it in time, and she passed away last Friday. I actually posted about this on another thread. So, I’m not trying to be dramatic here, I guess... I'm just speaking from firsthand experience. When she was admitted back in February—before any of those strikes happened—she actually received much better care than he did, even with her being more critical.

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Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
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joined Feb 2007
#116 ·
Joseph Hughes said:Why all the drama? Nobody’s dying because of this doctors' strike. Emergency rooms are staying open, and critical surgeries and treatments for people with life-threatening illnesses aren't being pushed aside.

Well, from where I’m sitting, that’s just not the case. Unfortunately, I’ve heard plenty of firsthand accounts of people experiencing exactly the opposite.
Jason Grant85 Jason Grant85 Member
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joined May 2017
#117 ·
Joseph Hughes said:Why all the drama? Nobody actually died because of the doctors' strike, they aren't canceling ER visits, emergency surgeries, or life-saving treatments for people with critical illnesses.

I wouldn't be so definitive about that... my sister’s friend’s mother passed away... she asked her sister to call a doctor because her mom was feeling terrible, only for the sister to snap back that the doctor was on strike and she just had to wait. Now that woman lives with the guilt, thinking it's her fault for taking her mother to that hospital.

A bit of experience from my own home... my sister had some bleeding during her pregnancy one evening and called Petrov—well, the local clinic where they live—to ask for advice on what to do or if she should come in. The person on the line just yelled at her, saying there were no doctors available, and hung up. After that, we went over to the Mayo Clinic, and everyone there was perfectly polite; she just waited for the doctor to step out of the delivery room, got checked out, received some Tylenol, and that was that.

So, look, not every single doctor is lazy or ungrateful scum—they really aren't—but the way they're trying to push their agenda just isn't right. Personally, I'm all for offering $17 performance-based bonuses... much like how managers at big corporations like Google or ExxonMobil get paid... based on results... but I don't mean rushing through 100 patients in a single shift just to check a box; I mean rewarding how quickly they react, or how effectively they run tests to reach a diagnosis... rather than having a patient shuffled from one unfriendly face to another, waiting months for tests while their condition gets worse.
Jamie Rivera78 Jamie Rivera78 Member
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joined Nov 2016
#118 ·
Lisa Perez37 said:Don't be so sure about that... a friend of my sister's mom passed away because of this. The daughter was begging her sister to call a doctor since her mom was crashing, but the sister just snapped back saying the doctor was on strike and she'd have to wait. Now that woman is carrying the guilt of taking her mother to that hospital in the first place.

Look, I’ve seen this play out in my own family... my sister started bleeding during her pregnancy one night and called Petrov over to ask for advice or if she should head in. The guy just loses his cool, tells her there aren't any doctors available, and slams the phone down. So she heads over to the Mayo Clinic instead—everyone there was actually decent. She just waited for the doctor to step out of the delivery room, got checked out, got her meds, and she was fine.

So yeah, not every single doctor is some lazy, ungrateful jerk, but the way they go about things is totally messed up. Personally, I think if we need to, we should implement $17 performance-based pay... just like managers at big corporations like Google... based on actual results. And I don't mean rushing through 100 patients in a shift just to check boxes; I mean how fast they react and how thorough their diagnostics are before making a call... not just passing patients around from one department to another while they wait months for tests while their condition gets worse.

Do you really think giving them a $50k salary would fix the attitude? I doubt it. Honestly, even that would probably feel like peanuts to them after a while.
Mark White2 Mark White2 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2012
#119 ·
Jamie Rivera78 said:I guess you could ask if bumping salaries to $50k would actually fix things, but honestly, I don't think it would... though maybe eventually even that wouldn't feel like enough for them.

It’d definitely be better, obviously. Just go get a checkup at a private clinic instead of a public hospital and you’ll see the difference immediately.

Since they're paid more and have actual breathing room—like seeing maybe 10 to 15 patients a day rather than cranking through over 30.

At the end of the day, doctors are workers too, and I've always felt that a happy worker is just a better worker.
Jamie Rivera78 Jamie Rivera78 Member
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joined Nov 2016
#120 ·
Mark White2 said:Of course it would be better. Just go get a checkup at a high-end private clinic and you'll see the difference immediately.

Because they actually get paid a decent wage and aren't being worked to death (we're talking maybe 10-15 patients a day instead of crushing through >30).

Look, doctors are employees too. A happy worker is a good worker. Period.

The whole game changes when you work for a private firm. Nobody goes on strike, nobody complains, and everyone’s suddenly all smiles and sunshine. Even if the paycheck was peanuts, they'd still act like it.

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