Marijuana legalization

Samuel Brown6 said:Alright, then why don't you read my post and give me your honest opinion on decriminalization? Tell me exactly why you think it shouldn't happen—or maybe you actually think it should?

I believe the current legal approach to marijuana is poorly handled and needs much stricter enforcement. From what I can see, we agree that someone caught with a joint shouldn't face criminal prosecution, but my view is that such an individual should be required to complete an educational course on the harmful effects of marijuana and undergo mandatory testing for a set period. If they test positive, they still wouldn't face criminal charges, but medical intervention would be implemented. As for those dealing drugs—any drugs—penalties should be toughened and increased exponentially. For example, if you deal drugs, you get two years in prison; if you're caught again, it’s four; then eight, and so on. Furthermore, if a minor is caught with marijuana, their parents must be notified, and this requirement should remain in place until that person reaches age 21.
What am I basing my belief that marijuana is harmful on? For starters, my own experience. When I was smoking, my GPA hovered around a 3.7; once I quit, it climbed to a 5.0. Based on my personal history with consumption, I have concluded that the harmful consequences are as follows: First, a loss of willpower and motivation. I could have maintained a 5.0 while I was smoking, but I simply couldn't bring myself to care. It felt like everything was just "whatever." You lose touch with reality. Then, there is the addiction. I couldn't imagine going out without a joint. Having weed on hand became the primary focus of my life. In the search for marijuana, you meet dangerous people and often end up in bad crowds. And you know how it goes—you are who you hang out with. That path inevitably leads you toward other narcotics, whose harm is unquestionable. Today, half the kids in eighth grade are smoking cigarettes; if legalization happens, that will shift to marijuana. That is my conclusion based on firsthand experience. Additionally, doctors claim that marijuana increases the probability of mental illness, which is especially dangerous for those with a genetic predisposition.
There is also a subculture tied to marijuana. In my experience meeting different people, most of those who smoke weed are just troublemakers.

James Turner80 said:First off, they’re demonizing the symbol by turning the cross upside down, even though we all know exactly who was crucified on it.
Secondly, why would this actually matter in any serious theological study?
As far as I understand, soteriology is the study of the concept of the Resurrection.
What on earth does that have to do with cannabis oil?
Christology focuses on Jesus as a person.
The best we can do is speculate whether Jesus might have used marijuana, which could theoretically explain his unconventional personality.
So, perhaps Jesus was nothing more than—to put it in plain terms—a "stoned addict."🙏

A cross doesn't mean much on its own; it’s what it represents that matters. For Satanists, an inverted cross signifies the antithesis of Christ, not St. Peter. Furthermore, as the text points out, Jesus was anointed with oil, not high on smoke. Calling him a "stoned addict" is incredibly disrespectful and frankly disgusting.

Joseph Kern11 said:I believe our current legal approach to marijuana is poorly handled and requires stricter enforcement. While we seem to agree that simple possession shouldn't lead to criminal prosecution, my view is that such individuals should be required to complete an educational program on the risks involved, followed by mandatory periodic testing. In the event of a positive test, there would be no criminal charges, only medical intervention. However, for those distributing any narcotics, penalties must be increased exponentially. For instance, if you deal drugs, you face two years in prison; if caught again, four years; then eight, and so on. Furthermore, if someone is caught with marijuana, their parents should be notified until that individual reaches age 21.
My reasoning regarding the harm caused by marijuana stems from personal experience. When I was using, my GPA hovered around a 3.7; after I quit, it climbed to a 5.0. Based on my own history, the consequences are clear. First, there is the loss of willpower and motivation. I could have maintained a higher GPA while using, but I simply lacked the drive. It becomes a matter of apathy. You lose touch with reality. Then, there is the addiction. I couldn't imagine going out without a joint. My primary focus in life became ensuring I had weed on hand. In the pursuit of marijuana, one encounters questionable characters and falls into bad circles. As they say, you are who you associate with. That path inevitably leads to other narcotics, whose dangers are indisputable. Today, half of the eighth graders in the US are smoking cigarettes; if legalization occurs, that will shift to marijuana. This is my conclusion based on lived experience. Medical professionals also assert that marijuana increases the probability of mental illness, which is particularly perilous for those with a genetic predisposition.
Marijuana is also tied to a specific subculture. Most people who smoke are slackers—at least, that is my impression from knowing others.

There is some truth to that, especially regarding the lowlifes running the trade. But you are viewing this through a completely different lens. There are adults who simply enjoy smoking, people who have finished school (and as I mentioned, it remains illegal for minors to possess it, and dealing to them is severely punished). Regarding drug dealing, I am in agreement that it should be penalized.

But as I stated, there are adults—legal adults—who just want to smoke, and it is precisely because of them that decriminalization should be considered. I have no desire to get bogged down in complex equations or lengthy academic debates, but in short: try viewing the situation from a perspective other than the "high schooler" viewpoint you currently hold, and remember that I have already emphasized the words MINORS and PROHIBITED.

Do you follow?

Joseph Kern11 said:As someone who used to smoke and has since quit for good, I can tell you: it’s pure EVIL. It turns you irresponsible, lazy, dim-witted, and more prone to mental health issues. It’s simply a massive trap—a one-way ticket to ruin.

I get that you mean well. You don't want anyone else to stumble through the same mess you did... BUT! You're operating under the assumption that everyone else is just like you, or at least very similar. And that is fundamentally WRONG.
Every individual is their own unique story; people react differently to their surroundings, to stress, to substances, and so on. If someone is an adult and possesses basic mental competence, let them make their own calls. Don't mistake your good intentions for a mandate to decide everyone else's fate for them.
I'm not some hardcore smoker, so this doesn't move the needle much for me personally, but being lectured by well-meaning folks like you is what really gets under my skin...
Marijuana is illegal because someone, somewhere, decided it should be "this way and no other," all while hiding behind a veil of supposedly "caring for our neighbors." Most of these arguments have more to do with dogma than reality... whether you believe it or not.

So what? Should we keep it "outlawed" just because of a few unstable individuals who might fall victim to it? People like Pero Peric, who maybe only smokes on a Sunday afternoon or once in a blue moon after a grueling week at the office, shouldn't be penalized because of others.
Does that sit right with you?

slypuma17 said:It seems you mean well, and that you don't want anyone else to endure what you went through... BUT! You're operating under the assumption that others are either just like you or at least fundamentally similar, which is WRONG.
Every individual is an outlier, reacting differently to their environment, frustrations, drugs, and so on. Let others make their own choices if they are adults and aren't intellectually impaired. Don't let your good intentions trick you into thinking you have the right to decide someone else's fate...
I am not a passionate smoker, so this matters little to me, but well-meaning attitudes from people like you really throw me off...
Marijuana is illegal simply because someone decided it should be "this way or that way," all under the guise of some supposed concern for one's neighbor... and all these "arguments" are closer to dogma than anything else... whether you believe it or not...

And so what? Because of a few unstable individuals who can be easily swayed by Joe Biden, should someone who only smokes on Sunday afternoons or occasionally after a grueling workday be forced "outside the law"?
Is that acceptable to you?

Exactly, man! That is precisely what I was attempting to write in my previous post, but I was drunk...
😬

Joseph Kern11 said:The Cross itself doesn't mean much without what it stands for. Inverting the cross for Satanists signifies being against Christ, not St. Peter. Plus, just like the text claims, Jesus was anointed with oil, he didn't smoke it. Calling him some "stoned addict" is incredibly rude and revolting.

Which Satanists are you even talking about?
That symbol was originally a Christian one... just because organizations run by Anton LaVey and those self-proclaimed occultists in the 60s adopted it as a way to rebel doesn't mean its core essence is anti-Christian.
I used that symbol as an example of how the Church essentially demonized its own icon just because of a few provocateurs...
I didn't even bother reading the text because the headline alone turned me off.
"Jesus used marijuana!" is honestly such a disgusting tactic to grab people's attention...
It reminds me of those Coca-Cola commercials: Buy Pepsi because person XY drank it! Be just like them...

Jesus using marijuana sounds like a tabloid headline, fine.
But the goal isn't to bait the masses; it's to spark interest in the mechanics behind it.
That isn't offensive; it is simply a fact. If he used it, it doesn't imply he was smoking joints.
It means exactly what is stated: being anointed with cannabis-based oil.
After learning this two years ago, I questioned medical students regarding whether topical application could produce psychoactive effects. I did not disclose the subject matter, and they confirmed it is possible.
Furthermore, when applied topically as an oil, it acts as a remedy for skin conditions.
Cannabis possesses over 60 medicinal properties, meaning its psychoactive and therapeutic effects can be combined through such usage, unlike when mixed with tobacco.

I've read so much absolute garbage on here that I don't think I'll ever be able to wash the stench out of my eyes...

Joseph Kern11 said:Just a bunch of nonsense from some high addict... Marijuana is straight up wrecking both your mental and physical health...

You’re such an ignorant idiot. You don't even know what a junkie is, yet here you are trying to fight proven research with your pathetic "personal experience"... Look, I've been smoking for four years and I still graduated high school and got into a top-tier university here in the States. My life is perfectly stable. The whole thing is about moderation; drink every day and you'll end up an alcoholic, eat fast food every day and you'll drop dead from a heart attack by fifty... Compared to all the legal vices out there and how much damage they actually do, banning marijuana is just complete and total absurdity...

It’s honestly so easy to just try and shut someone down by attacking their character when you realize you don't actually have a real argument... but all that does is prove you aren't even ready for a conversation about legalization, let alone an actual debate...

If we're talking about heading over to Europe, soft drugs really ought to be legal. I mean, the Netherlands works more than well enough, but our moralistic totalitarians who are completely brainwashed by propaganda just can't seem to wrap their heads around it...

I'm not even gonna get into the whole stability vs. instability debate regarding marijuana because, honestly, everyone’s already beaten that drum to death... I'm not one of those people who's gonna sit here and claim it's 100% harmless, 'cause let's be real, that would be a total lie. But compared to booze? It's way less damaging and nowhere near as addictive. And alcohol is... Most people... Look, guys, there’s really no big deal...

Whether it’s actually harmful or not doesn't even matter when you're talking about legalization... I'd much rather dive into how ridiculous drug prohibition is in general and why everything—even the absolute worst crap out there—needs to be legal...

Someone please tell me: is there actually any realistic reason why you guys think making drugs illegal does any good at all...?

It basically treats every single drug like they’re all the same, from practically harmless LSD to nasty stuff like meth and heroin... You rarely ever hear anyone actually talk about Stability or how addictive something is when the conversation shifts to whether it's legal or not. Honestly, you'd be shocked at how many people out there actually think LSD is more dangerous or habit-forming than amphetamines? It's just not true...

It’s honestly wild how we’ve got kids getting thrown behind bars just for growing a plant that literally grows like a weed in the backyard... Over 60% of inmates in the US are stuck in there because of drugs, which is just such a massive drain on our money and resources... Seriously, the US spends way more on prisons than it does on schools...

Lifting drug prohibition would basically gut the entire economic foundation that keeps the world's biggest criminal syndicates running... um... maybe even the biggest crime bosses on the planet...

The whole illegal drug thing basically means production and distribution are totally unregulated, so you end up with substances laced with God knows what that shouldn't even be there... all those impurities just add an extra layer of hell to whatever damage the original substance was already doing. Because of prohibition—which is supposed to protect people, right?—users end up taking random, unknown chemicals thinking they're getting one thing, only to end up seriously sick or dead. Plus, since prices aren't regulated, people turn to crime just to fund their habits, and dealers aren't exactly checking IDs like you'd see in a legal, regulated system...

By backing prohibition, you're basically cheering on environmental destruction caused by those sketchy, unregulated labs pumping out chemicals for drug production all over the globe... You're essentially helping groups like the Taliban secure a foothold in the opium market, and you're siding with the execution of people smuggling stuff like Marijuana Duck in Asian countries. It’s just supporting the romanticization of drugs because they've become "forbidden fruit," while backing a broken system that causes all this damage yet still fails at its one actual goal—drug use is actually climbing every single year... People have been using substances to alter their consciousness since the beginning of time, and they always will, so no law is ever gonna change that reality...

You guys are basically planting the seeds for your own destruction... Every single year, legal stuff like tobacco, booze, and prescription meds take more lives than all the illegal drugs combined. The laws that are supposed to provide Stability actually trick people into thinking things like alcohol and cigarettes are fine just because, uh, they’re legal, even though they're right at the top of the danger list. Meanwhile, totally safe psychedelics like LSD, psilocybin, mescaline, and DMT are branded as brain-melting hallucinogens, which is total nonsense. Just freaking read a book and get with the program...

Let me hear you, I'm dying to know how anyone can seriously believe that making drugs widely available alongside actual facts and education would send society into a tailspin. Prohibition isn't even a hundred years old, and drugs were floating around freely for thousands of years before that and we’re all still standing. Out of all the substances in history, up until synthetics showed up, it was really just alcohol and opium that caused any real mess...

It’s easy for you lot to stand there without an ounce of an argument, playing the part of some archaic moral crusader and projecting your personal values onto everyone else, but who gave you the right? What if someone comes along and bans the internet because it "socially isolates" people or makes them addicts? More people have died from playing MMORPGs than from marijuana... Drinking bleach is perfectly legal, sure, but that doesn't mean some idiot is going to chug a bottle and die, because most people know better. Why? Because we’re educated enough to know bleach is great for cleaning toilets, not for a refreshing cocktail...

Prohibition is just an obnoxious, absurd invasion of my personal sovereignty. I am not giving up my right to consume substances that are otherwise completely safe and actually enhance my cognitive and spiritual life, just because some moron decides to kill themselves using those same substances the wrong way. That logic applies to EVERYTHING IN LIFE, but when it comes to drugs, suddenly it's treated differently. I wouldn't even give up my right to use heroin just because most people who do end up hitting rock bottom. I don't *want* to use heroin, but if I did, it's my right. There are plenty of examples of doctors who used medical narcotics for years while living perfectly respectable lives...

EVERY single drug ban happens because of politics first, and science second. It's all to win over the mindless masses who form their opinions based on whatever they hear on the nightly news or what their moral arbiters tell them. Facts don't matter to them. Their biggest arguments are always just "he said, she said" or "my personal experience," where they abuse a basically safe substance until they pass out and then claim it's toxic for everyone. Honestly, just get lost, you backwards Neanderthals... You don't want to consume something? Fine, you don't have to, but that's where your rights end...

If you actually value freedom and common sense, and if you believe that you—not the government—own your own body, then I honestly cannot wrap my head around how any sane person could support prohibition. Banning drugs because individuals might get hooked or die is like banning cars because people crash, or banning windows because of suicides. With the right information, anyone can decide for themselves. If someone still chooses to stick a needle in their arm, that's on them—natural selection at work. Any adult who is mentally sound has the right to choose, and that is their choice alone; meddling in that under the guise of fake morality is perverse by default. It's an insult to anyone with an ounce of intelligence or sanity...

Our wonderful society lets us own weapons, but not a plant. How does that make sense to anyone?...

Please, if anyone has a problem with what I wrote, feel free to provide actual, real counterarguments for every specific point you disagree with...

Edit: and yeah, marijuana isn't a narcotic, and the people who smoke it aren't junkies. Get that stupid crap out of your heads already. A narcotic is a derivative of the opium poppy, which means someone smoking a joint isn't any bigger of a junkie than someone grabbing a beer at a pub...

Here's some undeniable proof that marijuana isn't a drug

Deer got hooked on cannabis and started acting super weird

Some deer over in Italy got high on cannabis and their sketchy behavior actually led the cops straight to a weed plantation. The police ended up arresting one student and a worker who were busy growing "grass" at the top of a hill. Since the deer basically ate most of the evidence, there's a good chance those two growers won't even face charges. The whole thing caught the attention of park rangers, who were wondering why these deer—which are usually terrified of everything—were just wandering around the mountains in broad daylight. Even the locals have been whispering about how the deer have been acting like total little troublemakers lately.

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1. So you're seriously trying to use some random anonymous blog post as actual evidence... how cute
2. If you keep leaving food out for Deer in the exact same spot, they’re gonna get used to it and just keep coming back for more, it's basically the same thing with grass
3. Turns out they were eating Marijuana Duck. I don't know how much you actually know about this stuff, but you can eat marijuana all day, but if there isn't enough heat to activate the THC, you aren't going to feel a damn thing...
4. A deer's behavior has zero to do with where the plant comes from or its chemical makeup, and it definitely doesn't change the fact that it isn't a narcotic...

Regarding that schizophrenia bullshit:

The whole marijuana-schizophrenia myth is officially busted, though honestly, nobody’s actually shocked...

Marijuana Duck, Duck, Goose—Same Old Story Today

Right now, thirteen states have active medical marijuana programs running. Places like Illinois, Texas, and Connecticut are totally itching to get started (Connecticut just went through those civil union changes—watch out). Even Grandma in The Bronx (dealing with colorectal cancer) isn't getting blamed for lighting up. Heck, even famous people's families are jumping into the cultivation business. As for good news? Sure thing: research shows marijuana can actually shrink lung tumors in mice, and some marijuana-like compounds might even slow down Alzheimer's...

So what's the big takeaway from the mainstream narrative? "Marijuana makes you lose your mind and fries your brain." Yeah, okay, that’s just Fox News talking. Why not try looking at a more legit source, like Reuters through Scientific American?

Quick Psych 101: Psychology is basically only good for making massive, sweeping generalizations because we still don't truly wrap our heads around every single nuance of how the brain functions, much less how various substances mess with it (and look, I'm not just pulling this out of thin air; I actually have a psych degree and just had a killer chat with a neuroscientist about this exact thing)...

According to the article, the two heavy hitters in marijuana are cannabidiol (CBD) and tetrahydrocannabinol (THC). CBD is the chill one. THC is what brings the paranoia and the euphoria...

There are over 300 active compounds in weed. This specific study just grabbed the two biggest ones (THC and CBD) to see which parts of the brain got hit. Because of all the anti-drug stigma out there, these studies almost always use synthetic THC. An MRI is just going to show you where things are active or inactive, but—like I said—we don't actually understand the full complexity of what's happening in specific brain regions...

To wrap it up: Doctors gave patients a synthetic version of a compound known to trigger mild paranoia. They then put their patients in this Machin : no , Mommy
No, Mommy, don't put me in there!
and then acted surprised when the brain scans showed activity in areas linked to paranoia. No kidding, Sherlock...

I’m not trying to trash the study itself. It’s the media and their frantic hype that can seriously go take a flying fuck at a rolling donut on this one. Reuters Has this article titled " Brain scans pinpoint cannabis health risk", but they missed the mark entirely. Those brain scans show activity or inactivity of The brain , and and The implications affect mental health Outlook, whereas "health" usually points toward physical wellness or actual brain damage. Look at the first sentence: "Brain scans showing how cannabis affects brain function...." Hang on a second. You can't measure "function" just by watching behavior. Refer back to my point about what's actually being measured...

"It's no longer a contentious issue. The expert community, by and large, accepts that cannabis contributes to the onset of psychotic symptoms in general and the severe form of psychosis, schizophrenia," [Professor Robin Murray, conference organizer] stated.

Total nonsense. That’s just the classic "weed makes you crazy" line. Dr. Zerrin Atakan, who actually wrote the study, turned out to be a totally sharp, reasonable person who isn't interested in the kind of sensationalism this story attracts. Back in 2004, he told the Telegraph:

Cannabis psychosis is such a fuzzy concept. If we even bother using the term, it's strictly to describe short-lived effects right after someone smokes, and it definitely doesn't mean users develop a chronic psychotic disorder. People might feel spooked or paranoid, but those vibes fade in hours or maybe a few days, and they almost never need medical intervention...

He even provided some incredibly clear-headed guidance in a message to the 2005 Cannabis Education March & Rally, basically telling people to think for themselves, while pointing out common sense stuff like avoiding smoking before your brain is fully developed, staying away if you already have mental illness, or not smoking every single day. It was super reasonable and easy to get...

So why all the noise? Just two words:

Reefer Madness

The news cycle lives for a juicy weed scandal; basically, 25% to 33% of Americans have messed with marijuana, and probably double that number just grew up around it... but hey, fear-mongering pays the bills. If you can spin some research into a terrifying headline, why wouldn't you? Especially when it involves something "dangerous" like cannabis. The feds absolutely eat that stuff up; they’re practically head over heels for it...

And regarding Robin Murray and his whole "marijuana triggers schizophrenia" hype train, maybe someone should tell him to chill out... though I guess it's hard to stay objective when you're checking in with the big pharma sponsors lurking behind the scenes, like Janssen-Cilag and Sanofi-Aventis. But sure, let's just pretend their massive stake in schizophrenia meds is totally unrelated to this whole thing... what a coincidence, right?

Anyway, I'm stepping off my soapbox before I drag you guys down a rabbit hole of legalization debates, legal hypocrisy, and green energy... so I'll just leave you with this gem:

"Casual drug users should be taken out and shot"
Darryl Gates
Chief of the Los Angeles Police Department
U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee (1990)

If you actually want the truth about marijuana, check out NORML.

slypuma17 said:So what happens now? Because of a few unstable individuals who might fall into the trap of using marijuana, should someone like Joe Biden—who maybe only uses it on a Sunday afternoon or once in a blue moon after an exhausting workday—be forced "out of the law"?
Does that seem reasonable to you?

The real issue is that we aren't just talking about a handful of unstable people; most people end up getting hooked. You claim to be part of that group that doesn't get addicted, and I believe you—I truly do, because I know it's possible—but if you look at the big picture, more people are going to be ruined by it than will actually enjoy it. As for minors, cigarettes are legally restricted to adults, yet look at how many kids smoke them. Why would you assume things would be any different with weed?

Kyle Ross56 said:Regarding all that schizophrenia nonsense:

Exactly! Psychiatrists and their research are just total bullshit, right? You're clearly the smartest one here. Who cares if they've dedicated their entire lives to this field when they're such idiots? You're the one who actually knows what's going on.

Joseph Kern11 said:When it comes to kids... cigarettes are supposed to be strictly for adults, yet you see them lighting up everywhere you look. So why on earth would anyone think things would be any different with weed...

Why would it get any worse than it already is? Weed is illegal, yet everyone can score some within an hour...

Joseph Kern11 said:The thing is, we aren't just talking about people who are easily swayed... most people just get sucked in, and you're one of those rare ones who doesn't, so I totally buy what you're saying since I know that's possible, but looking at the big picture—way more people are gonna end up ruined than actually enjoying themselves...

Man, who even cares? Honestly, I know so many people who smoke weed, and I can name at least two who’d probably have a hard time ever quitting... My buddy smokes like a hundred times more than I do—literally spent his entire tuition on it since freshman year—so you tell me... Pretty much everyone I talk to at college is hitting the THC... Every once in a while....

Joseph Kern11 said:Exactly! Psychiatrists and their little studies are total bullshit, you're the one who actually gets it. Who cares if they spend their entire lives studying this crap when they're just idiots... You're the only one with the real answers...

I'm the one who actually knows which psychiatrists and studies to trust... you're just the guy who doesn't even know what a narcotic is...

If you’d actually bothered to read the text I sent you, maybe you’d get where I’m coming from... but you didn't. So here you are, just talking absolute nonsense into the void like some horse with blinders on, only staring straight ahead...
Thank God I’ve been following this stuff for almost a year and a half now, because I know exactly what kind of garbage gets shoved down everyone's throats under the guise of "scientific research"... Take that tired old claim about marijuana leading to heroin, for example. It's been debunked a million times, but they just keep recycling it. All those studies that claimed it was true only looked at what drugs current heroin addicts started with—and yeah, most of them started with weed. So suddenly, according to the news, weed leads to heroin, and it hits the headlines just so parents can go into a total frenzy and vote for those politicians who promise to save innocent kids from... a plant... by launching some massive war they were destined to lose from day one...

Of course those studies reached that conclusion by looking at how many heroin addicts started out using weed, but what they completely ignored is the fact that an incredibly tiny fraction of people who smoke marijuana ever end up picking up a needle... It’s so easy to just frame things a certain way to push a narrative, and boom, there you go, instant fake news...

Take another look at this as an example, seriously—grab some time to watch this documentary just so you can get a real sense of how much hysteria state-sponsored pseudo-research can actually stir up... It's about Ecstasi...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=0

It’s just so lovely chatting with a whole crowd of people whose entire understanding of drugs comes straight from propaganda, myths, and pure misinformation...

Kyle Ross56 said:It’s truly wonderful to have a conversation with a crowd whose entire understanding of drugs is built on nothing but propaganda, myths, and pure misinformation....

I actually know quite a bit about drugs myself. It seems to me that you're the one whose "knowledge" is being shaped by the propaganda, myths, and disinformation pushed by drug cartel lobbyists.

Man, if you’re out here questioning marijuana and paranoia while posting stuff like this... 😁
You clearly know your stuff, just like you've so eloquently demonstrated. (ugh, this sarcasm is actually killing me)

And hey, thanks for taking the time to nitpick a hundred other tiny details in my posts just to argue back. You're basically acting like Maddox: "I'm right, you're wrong, end of story." Bravo, you win, I guess... I just can't compete with that logic of yours.

Oh, and while we're on the subject, maybe we should just make Coca-Cola illegal too:
http://www.healthbolt.net/2006/12/08...oke-right-now/

Kyle Ross56 said:And while we're on the subject, I honestly think Coca-Cola should be banned too:
http://www.healthbolt.net/2006/12/08...oke-right-now/

I can certainly agree with you there.

Furthermore, how do you account for the fact that none of the active users ever claim it's harmful, yet everyone who has decided to quit insists it was nothing but trouble and strictly damaging? At least personally, I haven't met anyone like that, and I know quite a few people.

Joseph Kern11 said:Furthermore, how do you account for the fact that not a single active user claims it's harmful, whereas everyone who quits insists it was damaging and brought nothing but grief? At least I haven't met anyone like that, and I know plenty of people...

Man, I just realized the entire world revolves around you.

YOU KNOW EVERYTHING!! From now on, I’m also against legalization because this man clearly knows everyone and everything, so we should just believe him unconditionally. Hallelujah!

Maybe go back to school and try raising that GPA from a 4.76 to a 4.8...

😂
Joseph Kern11 says: So schizophrenia, permanent psycho-social issues, addiction, and being more prone to other drugs aren't side effects?
Don't make me laugh.

Hey, tell me straight—have you actually been using this stuff?