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GP Germany - 07/25/2010

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Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 Veteran
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#201 ·
Michael Lee4 said:Look at those pathetic teams... everyone’s hitting a wall, but nobody’s actually celebrating... just sour looks and fake smiles like a bad political press conference. 🙂

Good Boy Felipe is just one step away from bursting into tears. 🙏 😁
slybison8 slybison8 Active Member
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#202 ·
Edward Howard2 said:Man, what a hilarious press conference 😁

I suppose Nando has somehow managed to outdo both Jadranka Kosor and Šuker combined when it comes to the art of mental manipulation. 😍🤣
Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 Veteran
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#203 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:Good Boy Felipe is just one step away from bursting into tears. 🙏 😁

But hey, what happened, happened—he played fair.

A double victory beats a collision between teammates any day. 😁
Keith Rodriguez27 Keith Rodriguez27 Active Member
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#204 ·
cosmicridge5 said:I don't see why anyone is acting like he earned it. It's not like he actually had to fight for it 😬 It was basically handed to him on a silver platter 😁

Look, let’s be real here—we’re talking about Massa, not some absolute superstar driver. 😬🤣
redheron12 redheron12 Regular
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#205 ·
cosmicridge5 said:Give me a break. If Button had about 60 points right now and we were looking at this exact scenario over at McLaren, you really think they wouldn't do whatever it takes to ensure Lewis finishes first? Anyone who thinks otherwise is being incredibly naive. Whether it’s done through direct orders or some subtle coded messages, the end result is just as unfair. Though, I suppose you could argue whether it even counts as "unfair" when you consider the massive stakes, the money, and the underlying politics, much like what Blaze and Novak were mentioning earlier.

That whole fuel situation at McLaren is basically just a team order 🤷 wrapped in a slightly more sophisticated disguise, but it's still transparent to everyone watching. We all know team orders exist; it’s nothing new or surprising. The only difference is the method—at McLaren, they use fuel levels, whereas here they just tell Mass that Nando is faster, which he actually 😁
was.
So, what is the actual difference in the grand scheme of things? Let's not be hypocrites 😁

McLaren is like a girl you have to play games with to win over, while Ferrari is like someone you basically have to pay off—both are exhausting, but it's all about how you approach them 🤷
Michael Lee4 Michael Lee4 RegularOP
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#206 ·
Here are the results... poor Massa 🍿
rustystag7 rustystag7 Member
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#207 ·
Michael Lee4 said:Felipe Massa 🙏 🙏 🙏

Way to go, Felipe 🙂


Honestly, I'm getting pretty damn sick of F1...

Man, when Kimi won the title everyone was shouting "bravo Massa"...

And then when that jerk Glock lost his car in the final corner, everybody was feeling sorry for Massa...

Now today they’re all mourning Massa again....

God, I hate Formula 1....

I still don't get why the hell they banned mid-race refueling.... everything should be decided out on the track....

I'd honestly rather have seen the mechanics screw something up on his car so he lost the spot, instead of all this bullshit 🙄

Seriously, it's a 1-2 finish but they look like someone just died 👎
Jose Ward11 Jose Ward11 Member
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#208 ·
It doesn't really matter whether there was a team order or not. Aside from that, watching things go sideways at McLaren can be quite entertaining. The real issue lies with Alonso... 🤮(unless we're talking about an all-out internal conflict like back in 2007, especially since Kimi ended up winning it anyway, rather than either of them)

redheron12 said:McLaren is like a girl you have to play games with to win over, while Ferrari is like someone you basically have to pay off—both are exhausting, but it's all about how you approach them 🤷

Exactly my point..

especially when they end up using 😢Massa
.
Michael Lee4 Michael Lee4 RegularOP
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#209 ·
Well... looks like they didn't screw him over after all. 🙏
rustystag7 rustystag7 Member
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#210 ·
cosmicridge5 said:Give me a break. If Button had about 60 points right now and we were looking at this exact scenario over at McLaren, you really think they wouldn't do whatever it takes to ensure Lewis finishes first? Anyone who thinks otherwise is being incredibly naive. Whether it’s done through direct orders or some subtle coded messages, the end result is just as unfair. Though, I suppose you could argue whether it even counts as "unfair" when you consider the massive stakes, the money, and the underlying politics, much like what Blaze and Novak were mentioning earlier.

That whole fuel situation at McLaren is basically just a team order 🤷 wrapped in a slightly more sophisticated disguise, but it's still transparent to everyone watching. We all know team orders exist; it’s nothing new or surprising. The only difference is the method—at McLaren, they use fuel levels, whereas here they just tell Mass that Nando is faster, which he actually 😁
was.
So, what is the actual difference in the grand scheme of things? Let's not be hypocrites 😁


It's an easy fix, really. Just look at the telemetry and strip them of every single point they earned today...

And maybe toss in another 20 or 30 points just so everyone else sees how it's done...

Then they can go ahead and keep playing their little tactical games...

Seriously, if there aren't any penalties after this, I don't see why they won't just be blunt on the team radio: "Move out of the way, Alonso, get out of the line, bye."🤷

It's not even a debate anymore; it's just a complete mess...
cosmicridge5 cosmicridge5 Regular
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#211 ·
Keith Rodriguez27 said:Look, let’s be real here—we’re talking about Massa, not some absolute superstar driver. 😬🤣

😬

Come on, Nando 👋 We really need a win 👋

As long as they don't wreck each other 🙈
redheron12 redheron12 Regular
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#212 ·
Jergović Care Alonso👍
Alonso — honestly, just a complete madman 🤣🤣🤣
Michael Lee4 Michael Lee4 RegularOP
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#213 ·
Felipe is totally folding under the pressure 😬
rustystag7 rustystag7 Member
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#214 ·
redheron12 said:McLaren is like a girl you have to play games with to win over, while Ferrari is like someone you basically have to pay off—both are exhausting, but it's all about how you approach them 🤷

spot on 🙏
cosmicridge5 cosmicridge5 Regular
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#215 ·
Michael Lee4 said:Well... looks like they didn't screw him over after all. 🙏

See how (crazy 😬 ) fair they are 😍 😁
Edward Howard2 Edward Howard2 Regular
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#216 ·
even slang says it makes sense 😁
Edward Howard2 Edward Howard2 Regular
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#217 ·
no way, grandad 😁
Rebecca Fox4 Rebecca Fox4 Active Member
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#218 ·
Chris Ortiz said:Oh, absolutely, there was also that bus incident where everyone seemed to crash right before it happened.
What actually ended up happening with that situation? I know they had to redo the start, but how many drivers were even left in the running?
If I recall correctly, Michael took the win in that race, didn't he?

I wrote, "well, if it hadn't rained." Damon Hill won that race...☕
Michael Lee4 Michael Lee4 RegularOP
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#219 ·
Finally caught the start... Fetl totally screwed Button over by slowing down way too much, forcing him to go wide left and lose two spots. Such a shame, man. A huge waste of potential there.
cosmicridge5 cosmicridge5 Regular
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#220 ·
Edward Howard2 said:no way, grandad 😁

USA vs. Germany: 1 - 0 😬

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