F1: Then vs. Now

darkmarlin16 said:What kind of questions even are these? 🤣

So you're telling me it makes sense for everyone to just line up at the same time after a red flag, ignoring all the gaps and advantages built up during the race? Like, if Driver B is sitting twenty seconds behind Driver A, he could totally wreck Driver A's entire race by slamming into him, and honestly, twenty seconds is a massive gap to just ignore in this absolute circus.

It’s way more logical to just have them restart in their actual order, keeping those time gaps intact from when the race was halted, so we actually have a legitimate running order on the track.

There is absolutely no way the first option is more logical or fairer than the second.

They're the kind of questions that—to put it in terms this forum can actually grasp—expose all the scams going on...

ruggedhawk20 said:They're the kind of questions that—to put it in terms this forum can actually grasp—expose all the scams going on...

Exactly, they expose how stupidly illogical and totally unfair the whole race was.

And honestly, it’s pretty obvious there was a much more decent way to handle the whole thing.

I don't know if you even realize—your exact way of thinking is the reason we're stuck with DRS, mandatory two-compound tire changes, and all that other nonsense.

You guys should've just sent everyone to Disneyland years ago. Too late now. 😍 instead, you went and turned F1 into a freaking theme park.

ruggedhawk20 said:I don't know if you even realize—your exact way of thinking is the reason we're stuck with DRS, mandatory two-compound tire changes, and all that other nonsense.

You guys should've just sent everyone to Disneyland years ago. Too late now. 😍 instead, you went and turned F1 into a freaking theme park.

It’s actually the exact opposite—your logic is just as brainless as these modern-day gimmicks.

You aren't actually rooting for real racing where things happen on the track and gaps stay honest, like when a race gets red-flagged.

No, you’re all about those restarts where everyone just mashes into each other, resetting everything back to how the gaps looked before the flag even flew.

Thanks, darkmarlin16—and let’s use the subforum's official terminology here—for spending this holy day trashing one of the greatest F1 races ever run and basically exposing the biggest fraud in this entire community.

ruggedhawk20 said:Thanks, darkmarlin16—and let’s use the subforum's official terminology here—for spending this holy day trashing one of the greatest F1 races ever run and basically exposing the biggest fraud in this entire community.

Man, I feel bad for calling you out like that, 😢

Because up until this point, I actually thought you were a halfway decent thinker.

darkmarlin16, censorship basically did you a favor there. It’s the same damn censorship you’re whining about almost every single day.

ruggedhawk20 said:darkmarlin16, censorship basically did you a favor there. It’s the same damn censorship you’re whining about almost every single day.

I'm dead certain that 90% of the people on this forum think what I just laid out is way more logical, way fairer, and just plain better than the nonsense you're pushing.

And they're right.

The way you want things done is just like DRS in Formula 1—you can only use it in specific spots under very specific conditions, which is just straight-up stupid.

Just hit me up in a DM if you're too terrified of the censors to say it here.

darkmarlin16 said:I'm dead certain that 90% of the people on this forum think what I just laid out is way more logical, way fairer, and just plain better than the nonsense you're pushing.

And they're right.

The way you want things done is just like DRS in Formula 1—you can only use it in specific spots under very specific conditions, which is just straight-up stupid.

Just hit me up in a DM if you're too terrified of the censors to say it here.

Look, I'm not really looking for a fight here, but I'm with you on this one, because honestly, what you're saying doesn't just seem more logical, it feels like the only thing that actually makes sense.🤷

darkmarlin16 said:I'm dead certain that 90% of the people on this forum think what I just laid out is way more logical, way fairer, and just plain better than the nonsense you're pushing.

And they're right.

The way you want things done is just like DRS in Formula 1—you can only use it in specific spots under very specific conditions, which is just straight-up stupid.

Just hit me up in a DM if you're too terrified of the censors to say it here.

Look, darkmarlin16—I’m not scared of anyone or anything. I gave my word to the mods that I wouldn't disrespect the users—and honestly, that's a whole different ballgame than just being afraid of something.

You’re the one who's scared—period. You're terrified of me and, honestly, even more terrified of my questions since you can't actually answer them. It’s pretty simple, really—you can't answer a question if you don't even get what it means.

You basically crowned yourself—I didn't even need to type a single word. I kept my word and laid it all out, even if you're sitting there acting like I said absolutely nothing.

ruggedhawk20 said:They're the kind of questions that—to put it in terms this forum can actually grasp—expose all the scams going on...

Look, don't get bent out of shape, but what exactly makes you the authority on who’s a fraud and who isn't around here? Honestly, those questions of yours feel pretty pointless—just weirdly abstract things that don't really follow any logic. It’s like asking how many goals are scored in a basketball game; I mean, why even ask that when there's a perfectly good reason they call them baskets instead of goals? You always seem to have this condescending vibe going on with everyone else, too. Like, what did we do to turn Formula 1 into some kind of Disneyland while you stayed so untouched?

darkmarlin16 said:I'm dead certain that 90% of the people on this forum think what I just laid out is way more logical, way fairer, and just plain better than the nonsense you're pushing.

And they're right.

The way you want things done is just like DRS in Formula 1—you can only use it in specific spots under very specific conditions, which is just straight-up stupid.

Just hit me up in a DM if you're too terrified of the censors to say it here.

And what exactly did you say?
If I’m following you correctly, you're claiming it's "fairer" and "more honest" for someone like Hamilton to lose a massive 30-40 second lead to Perez just because some idiot like Maldonado is driving like a maniac... where's the justice in that? 🤷

What kid thinks that's logical or fair?🤷

@stormybadger8
You just don't get what I'm saying, man.

darkmarlin16 said:@stormybadger8
You just don't get what I'm saying, man.

So, what's your big idea? What would actually be fair and logical in your book?🤷

stormybadger8 said:So, what's your big idea? What would actually be fair and logical in your book?🤷

I think the guy was basically saying that the only way to do this right is to stagger the starts based on those gaps before the flag drops, because there's nothing more annoying than some driver overtaking someone after a restart when they were actually ten seconds behind them to begin with.🙄
He wasn't even trying to defend how things went down today, honestly.😉

stormybadger8 said:So, what's your big idea? What would actually be fair and logical in your book?🤷

Look, I can see you’re totally out of the loop here. We’re actually deep in a debate about what happens when the red flag drops—you know, when they have to kill the race entirely.

silvercobra68 is honestly obsessed with this whole idea that everyone should just gun it at the exact same moment while the stragglers just sit there waiting, which is such a joke because it basically invites disaster. I mean, think about it—you’d practically be begging for two cars to absolutely wreck each other on the track just because they happen to be twenty seconds behind the leaders, and honestly, the sheer amount of illogical nonsense baked into that logic is enough to give anyone a headache.

Look, I’m telling you right now, if he’s honestly that obsessed with keeping everyone at such a massive distance that we’re talking about these ridiculous gaps, then fine—why don't they just line up and start one by one? Just go out there and trigger the starts in a single file line based exactly on how far behind they are, since apparently, that's the only way this guy can handle his ego.

Look, let’s just get this straight right out of the gate—we're talking about a red flag here, not some SC nonsense, okay? I’m saying this now just so we don't spiral into another one of those endless, circular arguments that go absolutely nowhere.
Look, I’m just gonna say it because someone clearly needs to call a spade a spade here: we are staring down the barrel of a massive red flag situation. Like, if you aren't seeing the warning signs flying right in your face at this point, you probably aren't even looking, or maybe you're just willfully ignoring the giant neon sign telling us everything is going sideways. It’s one of those "if you know, you know" moments, except everyone *should* know, yet here we are, acting like nothing is happening while the whole thing starts smelling a bit funky. Honestly, it's almost impressive how much people can ignore when things start hitting the fan, but yeah, consider this my official, unsolicited heads-up that the vibes are officially rancid.

dustycyclist19, you get it. 👍

So wait, we’re talking about a restart from the grid on cold tires while just sitting there waiting for the lights to go out?
That’s absolute garbage. It isn't fair. Everyone except the leader would be losing their minds right now...
Basically, everyone's just overthinking a situation where there isn't even a smart way to play it.

I suppose you didn't quite grasp why everyone on the road seemed to be moving at such a snail's pace...
It wasn't that they were driving slowly, per se...

We shall hold you in our memories forever


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v62StJvxLu8

stormybadger8 said:So wait, we’re talking about a restart from the grid on cold tires while just sitting there waiting for the lights to go out?
That’s absolute garbage. It isn't fair. Everyone except the leader would be losing their minds right now...
Basically, everyone's just overthinking a situation where there isn't even a smart way to play it.

We aren't even trying to be smart here, we’re just pointing out that his logic is completely flawed and unfair, yet all we get in return is some unsolicited advice telling us to go take a trip to Disneyland.🤣

I don't really get why silvercobra68 thinks it’s somehow "fairer" if everyone restarts at once and we just settle the time penalties from before the delay later on...
Which, honestly, is the only "fair" thing about that nonsense, because let's be real: that scenario would be neither fair nor logical given how things actually work.

And frankly, sitting there on the grid just killing time isn't any less illogical or unfair than his idea. In fact, forcing these guys to sit around on cold tires waiting is way more unfair to everyone trailing behind.
Plus, what darkmarlin16 is suggesting is basically impossible to pull off. Who’s even going to coordinate all that? How would they even manage the lights or whatever crazy setup he’s dreaming up...
Bottom line: it’s a total utopia that just wouldn't work in the real world,😉 not to mention that nobody would be able to keep track of who jumped the start anyway...

As for adjusting times later, that's hardly groundbreaking stuff. It happens all the time nowadays when someone picks up a time penalty after a race is already over.