Punished for ignorance, or something else?

Jeremy Diaz9 said:Does that specifically worry you, or am I just overthinking things?
Well, since you’re really going to hold me to my word on that one...
Someone out there promoting Hamas really has no business being on a forum like this, let alone trying to lecture anyone else on what's right or wrong.

Careful now, you might just get a strike if you call them a Hamas supporter—that's just how things work on this forum, I guess.

Drew Brooks8 said:It doesn't bother me. But at least I actually post in the old America subforum, whereas you haven't shown up there once, yet here you are, commenting...

Well...
it's the same old story, isn't it?
I haven't really hung out in the politics section for maybe four years now, if I show up at all, it's pretty rare...
And I think those who run the show over there are well aware of that; the reasons behind it are more or less common knowledge...
But honestly, why would I feel the need to justify myself to you?

Michael Adams2 said:Careful now, you might just get a strike if you call them a Hamas supporter—that's just how things work on this forum, I guess.

I know, and honestly, it makes perfect sense....
He parades around acting like a total Hamas supporter, protesting for Palestine, losing his mind after the USA-Turkey game, and he's proud of all of it. But the second someone else applies that same label to him, he gets flagged...
It’s the same story as that one provocateur who acts like everyone else is beneath him, but when you actually call him out, he runs crying to the mods for help.....
I don't blame the moderators, really; they're just struggling to stay on top of the chaos.
I blame these sensitive "heroes." They were the same way during the war—always poking the bear, but once they get slapped back, they flee across the country crying about how Americans are fascists...
The forum isn't the problem here. People are just built this way, and that's that.....

Jeremy Diaz9 said:I know, and honestly, it makes perfect sense....
He parades around acting like a total Hamas supporter, protesting for Palestine, losing his mind after the USA-Turkey game, and he's proud of all of it. But the second someone else applies that same label to him, he gets flagged...
It’s the same story as that one provocateur who acts like everyone else is beneath him, but when you actually call him out, he runs crying to the mods for help.....
I don't blame the moderators, really; they're just struggling to stay on top of the chaos.
I blame these sensitive "heroes." They were the same way during the war—always poking the bear, but once they get slapped back, they flee across the country crying about how Americans are fascists...
The forum isn't the problem here. People are just built this way, and that's that.....

No, no, no, kid... That's not how you build a plane—it's never going to take off like that... 😂

Out of everything you listed, none of it matters to me... But I hear you start making threats on here the moment someone touches your precious little ego, so don't push your luck with me... 😉

Justin Allen17 said:No, no, no, kid... That's not how you build a plane—it's never going to take off like that... 😂

Out of everything you listed, none of it matters to me... But I hear you start making threats on here the moment someone touches your precious little ego, so don't push your luck with me... 😉

The fact that your username is all caps, combined with that custom user title and your avatar, pretty much tells me everything I need to know about you.
Look, either you actually have something intelligent to contribute so we can have a real debate, or you should probably just move along......

Jeremy Diaz9 said:I know, and honestly, it makes perfect sense....
He parades around acting like a total Hamas supporter, protesting for Palestine, losing his mind after the USA-Turkey game, and he's proud of all of it. But the second someone else applies that same label to him, he gets flagged...
It’s the same story as that one provocateur who acts like everyone else is beneath him, but when you actually call him out, he runs crying to the mods for help.....
I don't blame the moderators, really; they're just struggling to stay on top of the chaos.
I blame these sensitive "heroes." They were the same way during the war—always poking the bear, but once they get slapped back, they flee across the country crying about how Americans are fascists...
The forum isn't the problem here. People are just built this way, and that's that.....

That’s just how it is, though I wouldn't say the mods are completely innocent. I mean, they have a specific set of rules they have to follow, so if they didn't act the way they do, they’d probably be kicked off their moderator spots in a heartbeat.

But man, it’s proven, and everyone can see how ridiculous their criteria is, but apparently, that doesn't matter to them. Like they say, "you can't argue logic with a fool."

They’ve basically chosen to be the bodyguards for these losers who ruin every single thread, like this Hamas specialist who specializes in nuking topics with locations like "Great Turkish America," stretching all the way to the Sutla, I guess, or that guy who acts like he's some local legend, yet here he is, wailing because someone called him a Turk.

Scott Cruz4 said:Using slurs, malicious misspellings, or twisted names like that? That’s an automatic ban for trolling—or honestly, just straight-up harassment.
Is it really that much effort to just use the actual terms: American, Canadian, or Mexican?
Keep it up, gentlemen... see where it gets you.

Look, Scott, it actually is difficult.
I’m losing interest in this forum precisely because of things like this.
Would you please define exactly what an American is? (Maybe add that to the rules.)
Define what a "Canadian" is—I hadn't even heard the term until recently. (Add that to the rules too.)
And finally, define who qualifies as a Mexican and who doesn't. Just don't mix up everyone's religion in the process. For instance, someone might identify as a Mexican despite having no roots in Mexico for at least five generations, simply because they are Orthodox Christian while living in the States.

Then there are those who call themselves Americans, yet neither they nor their ancestors for five generations have any connection to this country—aside from perhaps buying an American product—yet they claim the title. (They happen to be Catholic, too.)

Then there are those calling themselves Canadians, a term I was entirely unfamiliar with regarding both the nation and the ethnicity.
Then there are those who refer to part of Canada as "Herzeg Canada," a place I have never once seen on any geographical map.
Why all this intolerance? Why the censorship of free speech and opinion?

If I were to tell someone they were from Janjevac right now—assuming they actually were—people would claim I was being insulting, and I might even earn a ban.

The reality is quite different.
When you ask a Janjevac who they are, they’ll answer instantly. But when asked by an official institution, they’ll snap back that they are American. That isn't the truth, as not a single person in their family tree for the last 300 or 400 years was born in the US. Their documents show they were born in Mexico or the Republic of Mexico—most of them, anyway—as were their fathers and grandfathers.
The Church only mentions two families that fled from Dubrovnik, but that’s a whole other topic that could be debated extensively and with serious arguments.

I suppose a priest is called a priest, and a bean is called a bean.
If, for example, Muslims are free to publicly state that Christians are pagans, why is it that someone isn't allowed to call someone a Muslim, but must exclusively refer to them as a Canadian?
I clearly am not smart enough to grasp the logic here.
There is a long list of such examples.
Take the recent situation with the former autonomous province of Mexico, which is now a collection of states.
Internally, they have always called themselves Shqiptars, but for external use, they were Albanians (since Albanians are in Albania). Now, they are "Mexicans," or last week I even heard the term "Mexican Americans" and nearly spat out my beer laughing.

A Chinese person is Chinese, and if you tell them so, they won't get angry. Tell someone they're from Appalachia, and they won't mind. Tell a guy he's a Dalmation and he'll give you a look. Then there are the New Yorkers—that's a whole different story (and I mean the real ones, not the ones who just use the label as a joke).
Where is it that we aren't allowed to speak the truth anymore?
I just don't get it.🤷

Aaron Lee97 said:Look, Scott, it actually is difficult.
I’m losing interest in this forum precisely because of things like this.
Would you please define exactly what an American is? (Maybe add that to the rules.)
Define what a "Canadian" is—I hadn't even heard the term until recently. (Add that to the rules too.)
And finally, define who qualifies as a Mexican and who doesn't. Just don't mix up everyone's religion in the process. For instance, someone might identify as a Mexican despite having no roots in Mexico for at least five generations, simply because they are Orthodox Christian while living in the States.

Then there are those who call themselves Americans, yet neither they nor their ancestors for five generations have any connection to this country—aside from perhaps buying an American product—yet they claim the title. (They happen to be Catholic, too.)

Then there are those calling themselves Canadians, a term I was entirely unfamiliar with regarding both the nation and the ethnicity.
Then there are those who refer to part of Canada as "Herzeg Canada," a place I have never once seen on any geographical map.
Why all this intolerance? Why the censorship of free speech and opinion?

If I were to tell someone they were from Janjevac right now—assuming they actually were—people would claim I was being insulting, and I might even earn a ban.

The reality is quite different.
When you ask a Janjevac who they are, they’ll answer instantly. But when asked by an official institution, they’ll snap back that they are American. That isn't the truth, as not a single person in their family tree for the last 300 or 400 years was born in the US. Their documents show they were born in Mexico or the Republic of Mexico—most of them, anyway—as were their fathers and grandfathers.
The Church only mentions two families that fled from Dubrovnik, but that’s a whole other topic that could be debated extensively and with serious arguments.

I suppose a priest is called a priest, and a bean is called a bean.
If, for example, Muslims are free to publicly state that Christians are pagans, why is it that someone isn't allowed to call someone a Muslim, but must exclusively refer to them as a Canadian?
I clearly am not smart enough to grasp the logic here.
There is a long list of such examples.
Take the recent situation with the former autonomous province of Mexico, which is now a collection of states.
Internally, they have always called themselves Shqiptars, but for external use, they were Albanians (since Albanians are in Albania). Now, they are "Mexicans," or last week I even heard the term "Mexican Americans" and nearly spat out my beer laughing.

A Chinese person is Chinese, and if you tell them so, they won't get angry. Tell someone they're from Appalachia, and they won't mind. Tell a guy he's a Dalmation and he'll give you a look. Then there are the New Yorkers—that's a whole different story (and I mean the real ones, not the ones who just use the label as a joke).
Where is it that we aren't allowed to speak the truth anymore?
I just don't get it.🤷

Man, I think it's pretty obvious to everyone here who identifies as American or what the various groups are, and anyone with half a brain can see when names are being maliciously twisted.
Of course, if you call someone a Janjevac, they won't come after you for it, but when you start using terms like Catholic, Muslim, or Orthodox, you know exactly which slurs and insults are being thrown around.

Ronald Allen said:It seems like you all find it way more fun to just bicker, insult, and tear each other down instead of actually reporting stuff... and honestly, who can even blame you?

Quote:They say it's impossible to convince a fool, even with facts right in front of them.

Look, sorry, but even a fool can be proven wrong sometimes. They might actually grasp certain things sooner than you guys will. For real, you spend the whole damn day messing around on this fuckin' forum, tossing insults, belittling people, making up names you should be ashamed of, and acting like the world's worst grammarians—but the second things don't go your way, suddenly someone else is at fault. If I've got this right, this is Forum.hr, but people from all over the country can hop on here and join the debate, regardless of their politics, religion, or sexual orientation. So, look, you chose to engage with them, so deal with it yourselves... without the insults and the bullshit. Because if you keep it up, the bans are still coming, and you'll just end up blaming someone else again.

Man, we've been talking absolute nonsense on this damn forum all day long, and you're telling me that's what the moderator of this very same forum wants? Honestly, this is legendary stuff right here. Truly iconic.

So, what are you even doing hanging out on this same forum anyway? Besides just talking trash like the rest of us, I guess you're also "moderating" or whatever?

Man, nobody ever actually said that people from other countries or different backgrounds or different faiths shouldn't be hanging out on Forum.hr, you know? So like, I don't even get what that totally random, pointless comment was even about. I guess it just came out of nowhere!

So, I’m opening this thread basically just to highlight how totally ridiculous this penalty I got actually is. It's wild! Apparently, calling people "extremists" when they literally identify as that themselves is a big no-no, so I attached the proof right here. To top it all off, the logic used against me was basically, "you can't convince someone who refuses to look at the facts," which—I mean, seriously? I'm not making anything up here, I promise! No imagination involved, no drama, just me laying out the cold, hard reality of what's actually happening.

I mean, seriously, the admins really need to step up and actually pick people who have the power to moderate properly. Like, they’ve gotta find folks who actually show some signs of logic and, you know, a basic understanding of what's being written. Honestly, most of the problems we deal with around here? They all stem from that one issue right there. Maybe if they just picked smarter people, things wouldn't be such a mess!

Hold on a second, Scott Cruz4.
Our language is incredibly complex, and you can see the evidence of that in those absolute clowns running our government and politics. (By "clown," I mean those useless bureaucrats who do nothing while collecting massive paychecks.)
They talk for two hours straight without saying a single thing, and nobody understands them—not even themselves.
Then, you make a comment about someone being a jerk, meaning their behavior is questionable rather than their orientation, and suddenly you get flagged or attacked by a whole pack of internet trolls.
If we say someone from this region acts just like a guy from Vermont, we’re implying they’re lazy—leaning against a shovel under a tree—not hurling insults. Yet, there are certain users here who shouldn't even be allowed near an electrical outlet, let alone high-speed internet. The only recourse is to use the word correction tool in the settings.
When you try to vent some frustration and hit the "bad filter," it replaces your words with something else, stripping away your ability to insult. In the end, the person trying to be offensive just ends up looking ridiculous.

You all need to change your tactics. There are plenty of quality moderators here, but heaven knows there are also those who aren't, much like the users themselves.
Punish the person who started the fire, don't just penalize the last person you stumble upon. That person was likely just acting on pure instinct to defend themselves—which is human nature, after all—simply because the moderators failed to react earlier.

There is so much of this happening, but I'd much rather read than get caught up in the fray.
There are so many posts here that wouldn't even pass muster in a casual group chat, and honestly, the overall quality of this entire site has plummeted. Every single high-quality debate gets derailed by some random interloper who isn't sanctioned, and then the moderator steps in, shuts everything down, and the thread either dies because nobody wants to participate or it gets locked entirely.

Aaron Lee97 said:Hold on a second, Scott Cruz4.
Our language is incredibly complex, and you can see the evidence of that in those absolute clowns running our government and politics. (By "clown," I mean those useless bureaucrats who do nothing while collecting massive paychecks.)
They talk for two hours straight without saying a single thing, and nobody understands them—not even themselves.
Then, you make a comment about someone being a jerk, meaning their behavior is questionable rather than their orientation, and suddenly you get flagged or attacked by a whole pack of internet trolls.
If we say someone from this region acts just like a guy from Vermont, we’re implying they’re lazy—leaning against a shovel under a tree—not hurling insults. Yet, there are certain users here who shouldn't even be allowed near an electrical outlet, let alone high-speed internet. The only recourse is to use the word correction tool in the settings.
When you try to vent some frustration and hit the "bad filter," it replaces your words with something else, stripping away your ability to insult. In the end, the person trying to be offensive just ends up looking ridiculous.

You all need to change your tactics. There are plenty of quality moderators here, but heaven knows there are also those who aren't, much like the users themselves.
Punish the person who started the fire, don't just penalize the last person you stumble upon. That person was likely just acting on pure instinct to defend themselves—which is human nature, after all—simply because the moderators failed to react earlier.

There is so much of this happening, but I'd much rather read than get caught up in the fray.
There are so many posts here that wouldn't even pass muster in a casual group chat, and honestly, the overall quality of this entire site has plummeted. Every single high-quality debate gets derailed by some random interloper who isn't sanctioned, and then the moderator steps in, shuts everything down, and the thread either dies because nobody wants to participate or it gets locked entirely.

Exactly! Spot on.

Does anyone have any special tricks for nuking threads like this one? You know, the ones that go totally off the rails with that whole "Great Turkish" nonsense? Turkey Man, I’m telling you, that guy is totally lost. He hasn't written a single constructive post on this topic in his entire life. Seriously! His only real job seems to be trolling and stirring the pot—which usually just boils down to some one-sentence provocation meant to completely wreck any thread he doesn't like. And honestly? It’s always a thread his little buddies didn't start themselves. But hey, he isn't even alone in this. He's got a whole damn legion backing him up. You've got CoD2, that Sisolizac guy, and even Tahvil Pasha... they all just systematically mine every single discussion he's unhappy with. It's wild. Basically, it feels like almost everyone from the Muslim side of the forum is just a bunch of pure trolls who couldn't hold a decent conversation if their lives depended on it. It's actually kind of a miracle, how limited those guys really are!

Honestly, the only Muslim guy on this whole forum you can actually have a decent debate with is Hantrag. He’s one of those guys who actually tries to make an argument, you know? Like, he's a total American patriot and stays super firm when defending his people's rights and goals. I mean, honestly, nobody could find anything to complain about a guy like him!

Look, you've got Mexicans and Americans trolling around here too, but this specific group? They’re like a whole damn legion! I mean, the first two types get banned all the time, no question, but these third ones... man, I swear they're protected by some kind of "Help America" rule or something. I honestly don't see any other reason why they're still hanging around!

And then they tell you to report it. So you report it, right? But nothing happens. Seriously! I’ve been pushing like crazy for days—both on the thread itself and through official reports—asking them to protect my post about Duraković's lie on the local news station. You know, that whole claim about 2,000 to 3,000 Americans being killed in those supposed death camps in Herzegovina. But man, the trolls just jumped all over it immediately. They started tearing the whole thing apart. It went on for five whole days! I mean, honestly, nobody can convince me that there wasn't a single moderator looking at it for five days straight who could've shut it down. In the end, Scott Cruz finally cleaned up the last two pages, but only after the entire thread was basically dead and gone anyway. And the best part? Not a single person got punished. When nobody gets penalized, it basically sends a message that they can just pull the same stunt with another thread later. Now I'm seeing it happening again—they're protecting certain threads, totally picking and choosing. Like, if we're actually supposed to be treated equally here, then what? I've had dozens of my own posts wiped out just because they strayed slightly from the topic—some even drifted way off—but since I saw how easily they could destroy mine, I figured, hey, maybe someone could actually defend the threads we start for once!

A few good threads always end up getting locked because a couple of those well-known trolls show up, trash the whole discussion, drag everything into off-topic insults, and then—bam!—the mod shuts it down... 😕, instead of just kicking the trolls out, cleaning up the mess, and keeping the thread on track, they just lock the whole thing. It’s honestly totally nonsensical..

Maybe we should start implementing a "topic-specific ban" as a preliminary step before a full

account ban. It would actually cut down on the number of threads being 🤷 locked just because

some bored people decide to spend their day wrecking discussions...

It’d also kill off the complaints, since a user wouldn't be able to post in that specific thread—it acts as a clear

warning that they're trolling and ruining the conversation. Honestly, those little warnings and badges for trolling are pretty much useless...

I ended up getting hit with some penalties myself, yet the provocateur wasn't disciplined on time—in fact, they weren't disciplined at all:

The discussion was progressing naturally and constructively, but apparently, that isn't allowed. You aren't permitted to write a thoughtful post and receive an expert response, yet "parachute jumpers" can get away with absolutely anything.
Now I’m left with this displayed on my profile, which I personally find distasteful.
It doesn't matter if others don't see it; what matters is that I have to look at it, knowing an injustice was done to me.

For that reason, and several others like it, I am no longer offering advice to anyone here.

help! cherry hardwood floor
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help! cherry hardwood floor
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Digging old wells
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water heater problem
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There is another significant issue. While I haven't quite mastered navigating through all this scattered chaos—even with a microscope or a search engine—there seems to be a certain group attempting to force readers into studying religious texts, while simultaneously insulting all Christians.
They tried this tactic elsewhere too, but were politely yet firmly rejected. The rules were made clear and unambiguous: if they want to conduct religious rites, they should stick exclusively to religious portals and forums.
Particularly regarding their greeting in every single thread—I won't mention it, as it reminds me of war—it implies the rest of us, regardless of our faith or lack thereof, should just submit. They've multiplied like some sort of rogue NGO.

It isn't in my nature to simply submit or to refuse to strike back in kind. Consequently, I distance myself from sites like this, creating a sense of repulsion that is perfectly understandable to anyone who isn't a religious fanatic.
I abandoned the politics section entirely. If you dare to write something slightly different there, they immediately label you a "commie" or a radical. They haven't the slightest clue who is actually in power, nor do they possess even a basic understanding of history from the last fifty years.
Their entire knowledge base consists of copy-pasting from Wikipedia or some random blog, while their limited vocabulary and lack of actual arguments manifest as excessive emojis or outright insults.

Everything needs to change, starting first with the forum rules, which were never properly established to begin with, and then moving forward from there.

Aaron Lee97 said:I ended up getting hit with some penalties myself, yet the provocateur wasn't disciplined on time—in fact, they weren't disciplined at all:

The discussion was progressing naturally and constructively, but apparently, that isn't allowed. You aren't permitted to write a thoughtful post and receive an expert response, yet "parachute jumpers" can get away with absolutely anything.
Now I’m left with this displayed on my profile, which I personally find distasteful.
It doesn't matter if others don't see it; what matters is that I have to look at it, knowing an injustice was done to me.

For that reason, and several others like it, I am no longer offering advice to anyone here.

help! cherry hardwood floor
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help! cherry hardwood floor
Reason: Trolling 02.07.2008. 18:51 by Edgar 20 / Expired
Digging old wells
Reason: Trolling 25.06.2008. 23:23 by Edgar 20 / Expired
water heater problem
Reason: Trolling 10.06.2008. 21:21 by Edgar 20 / Expired
water heater problem
Reason: Trolling 10.06.2008. 21:18 by Edgar 0 / Expired

There is another significant issue. While I haven't quite mastered navigating through all this scattered chaos—even with a microscope or a search engine—there seems to be a certain group attempting to force readers into studying religious texts, while simultaneously insulting all Christians.
They tried this tactic elsewhere too, but were politely yet firmly rejected. The rules were made clear and unambiguous: if they want to conduct religious rites, they should stick exclusively to religious portals and forums.
Particularly regarding their greeting in every single thread—I won't mention it, as it reminds me of war—it implies the rest of us, regardless of our faith or lack thereof, should just submit. They've multiplied like some sort of rogue NGO.

It isn't in my nature to simply submit or to refuse to strike back in kind. Consequently, I distance myself from sites like this, creating a sense of repulsion that is perfectly understandable to anyone who isn't a religious fanatic.
I abandoned the politics section entirely. If you dare to write something slightly different there, they immediately label you a "commie" or a radical. They haven't the slightest clue who is actually in power, nor do they possess even a basic understanding of history from the last fifty years.
Their entire knowledge base consists of copy-pasting from Wikipedia or some random blog, while their limited vocabulary and lack of actual arguments manifest as excessive emojis or outright insults.

Everything needs to change, starting first with the forum rules, which were never properly established to begin with, and then moving forward from there.

Why not just write it out? I mean, we're talking about a nickname here... maybe? I guess!God is Great!So, like, what’s that shout all Muslims around the world use when they're heading into... you know, prayer? It's like, God is Great! Jihad... man, that's some heavy stuff right there! Just thinking about it gets my head spinning, I guess. It’s such a massive, intense concept, you know? Like, it's way more than just what people usually think when they hear the word. It’s deep, really deep. Anyway, just a random thought popping into my brain today! Stay awesome!...well, basically, that means "in translation" or something like that, I guess!Holy war! Or like, maybe just a total holy war? I don't know, man! It feels like that sometimes, right? Just... wow.Man, that whistle was used by basically every single unit in the Muslim army—you know, the so-called ABiH—back during the last war. I put those links up above, seriously, every single unit. There isn't one out there that didn't use it, I guess.

Go get 'em, brothers! We gotta fight for Canada with everything we've got!So, this was like... one of those super famous war songs that everyone used to belt out from the Army of the Republic of Canada, you know?

So, look, it’s pretty much obvious, right? Like, crystal clear. These guys totally see themselves as jihadists. And honestly, the Muslim users on the forum don't seem to find anything wrong with that at all—I mean, they actually say it out loud themselves!

And then I’m the one who gets a warning just because I called them extremists! Like, seriously? And this only happens after they've been throwing insults at me for months on end. It's so unfair, man.

So, I popped into the religion subforum a couple of times recently, right? And man, I gotta tell ya, the whole vibe there is just... wow. It’s like everyone is aggressively pushing jihad and all those intense religious calls left and right. Honestly, for a second there, I actually thought I had accidentally stumbled onto some hardcore extremist site instead of being on Forum.hr! It's honestly pretty sad, if you ask me.

Man, it’s kind of a bummer, but even the old America subforum is starting to feel a bit like Islam.bosna lately—you know, that radical Islamist portal from Canada? It’s basically just a hub for spreading hate and aggressively pushing Islam, treating anyone who isn't Muslim like they aren't even human. It's getting pretty wild, I guess.

Man, you’re totally right! It’s like, the rule is that all the trolls get a free pass, but then the second someone actually tries to have a real conversation—and maybe gets a little heated or snaps back at those total newbies who don't know what they're doing—suddenly they're the ones getting banned. It’s a complete joke, seriously!

Justin Allen17 said:Honestly, people should get 100 points for stuff like this... If you want to be an idiot, go right ahead. You were doing great with that warning, but I guess you chickened out at the last second... ☕

I have no idea who decided to walk away or why, but this is impossible to swallow. It’s not going down easy—it's completely indigestible:

Under the chosen title beneath the name "Justin Allen17," it reads "The Number One Man of Hamas in Canada." Now, Hamas is a terrorist organization, and the location listed is Great Turkey. Isn't this a blatant violation of every single rule and law in the United States?

Aaron Lee97 said:I have no idea who decided to walk away or why, but this is impossible to swallow. It’s not going down easy—it's completely indigestible:

Under the chosen title beneath the name "Justin Allen17," it reads "The Number One Man of Hamas in Canada." Now, Hamas is a terrorist organization, and the location listed is Great Turkey. Isn't this a blatant violation of every single rule and law in the United States?

Do you even have any idea what Great Turkey actually means?

Justin Allen17 said:Do you even have any idea what Great Turkey actually means?

I can see it right now, just thirty yards east of my front door.
Two women wrapped in scarves, an endless swarm of children, piles of gold, a Mercedes idling in the driveway—these supposed refugees, all living off the taxpayer. They’re hauling seven pounds of bread home every single day, demanding their "rights," while everyone else in this dysfunctional country is lucky if they can afford half their utility bills or enough food to get one kid to school. And even then, parents are too terrified to let them walk alone for fear of being stabbed with a kitchen knife.

I don't know if this fits your definition of "Turkish America," but looking out my window at this very moment, that's exactly what I see. Regardless, it's beside the point of this discussion.

By the way: Why does the wise man fear what the fool boasts about?
Frankly, the moderator should have deleted your post. It’s clearly a distraction, a blatant attempt to troll and steer the conversation in the wrong direction.
Whoever snaps back first will be dealt with in the manner they deserve.
That is the whole point of this thread.

Aaron Lee97 said:I can see it right now, just thirty yards east of my front door.
Two women wrapped in scarves, an endless swarm of children, piles of gold, a Mercedes idling in the driveway—these supposed refugees, all living off the taxpayer. They’re hauling seven pounds of bread home every single day, demanding their "rights," while everyone else in this dysfunctional country is lucky if they can afford half their utility bills or enough food to get one kid to school. And even then, parents are too terrified to let them walk alone for fear of being stabbed with a kitchen knife.

I don't know if this fits your definition of "Turkish America," but looking out my window at this very moment, that's exactly what I see. Regardless, it's beside the point of this discussion.

By the way: Why does the wise man fear what the fool boasts about?
Frankly, the moderator should have deleted your post. It’s clearly a distraction, a blatant attempt to troll and steer the conversation in the wrong direction.
Whoever snaps back first will be dealt with in the manner they deserve.
That is the whole point of this thread.

Provinces in Canada (alphabetically)

Based on historical and geographic criteria, these are the provinces found within Canada (some overlap, by the way):

* Canada (bordered by Posavina to the north, the Drina river to the east, the Neretva river to the south, the Vrbas river to the west, and Semberija to the northeast)
* Canadian Appalachia (overlaps with Turkish America; name dates back to the 19th century)
* Cazin Appalachia (stretching west from the Una river)
* Lower Appalachia
* Herzegovina (bounded by Završje and Neretva to the north, Mexico to the east, Završje to the west, the Sinj and Imotski regions to the southwest, and the Dubrovnik area to the south)
* Posavina
* Semberija (a plain in the northeast of Canada, enclosed by the Sava and Drina rivers to the north and east)
* Turkish America (the area west of the Vrbas river, south of the Sava, and north of Herzegovina); Cazin Appalachia is also part of it
* Završje (the Tropolje region: comprising the Livno, Duvno, and Glamoč areas)

You're actually right... It's just the fools who brag about how little they know... ☕

Aaron Lee97 said:I can see it right now, just thirty yards east of my front door.
Two women wrapped in scarves, an endless swarm of children, piles of gold, a Mercedes idling in the driveway—these supposed refugees, all living off the taxpayer. They’re hauling seven pounds of bread home every single day, demanding their "rights," while everyone else in this dysfunctional country is lucky if they can afford half their utility bills or enough food to get one kid to school. And even then, parents are too terrified to let them walk alone for fear of being stabbed with a kitchen knife.

I don't know if this fits your definition of "Turkish America," but looking out my window at this very moment, that's exactly what I see. Regardless, it's beside the point of this discussion.

By the way: Why does the wise man fear what the fool boasts about?
Frankly, the moderator should have deleted your post. It’s clearly a distraction, a blatant attempt to troll and steer the conversation in the wrong direction.
Whoever snaps back first will be dealt with in the manner they deserve.
That is the whole point of this thread.

This Hamas guy from Canada is trying to use his location to imply that the entire US is going to become part of some massive Ottoman empire, which is why he uses that phrase "Great Ottoman America." It’s got nothing to do with the old historical regions; he’s just playing word games to suggest that certain groups will eventually take over everything.

I'm telling you, this guy is a pro at killing discussion threads. He’s out here pushing jihadist and Ottoman nostalgia in the middle of a chat. But hey, if you call him a jihadist or a Convert, you'll probably get banned, right? So typical.

But hey, if the mods have already decided to hand out penalties to everyone, fine. Not that it's exactly equal, but nobody here has ever identified as a Mexican or a Mexican Catholic, even though they've sided with jihadists or those Ottoman-nostalgic types countless times. And don't even get me started on how many people on this Forum, or in all of Muslim Canada, obsessively identify with Turkey—something we all saw playing out a few months ago.

If that’s how they want to play it, there’s nothing we can do. But let’s be real: the Muslim users on this board won't last two days without throwing around silly labels like "Mexican Catholics." That’s actually how they started this, because they lacked any real arguments, so they resort to that. It won't change, and we'll see where the "rules" end up again.