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Justin Allen17 Justin Allen17 Member
14 messages
joined Aug 2010
#41 ·
Michael Adams2 said:This Hamas guy from Canada is trying to use his location to imply that the entire US is going to become part of some massive Ottoman empire, which is why he uses that phrase "Great Ottoman America." It’s got nothing to do with the old historical regions; he’s just playing word games to suggest that certain groups will eventually take over everything.

I'm telling you, this guy is a pro at killing discussion threads. He’s out here pushing jihadist and Ottoman nostalgia in the middle of a chat. But hey, if you call him a jihadist or a Convert, you'll probably get banned, right? So typical.

But hey, if the mods have already decided to hand out penalties to everyone, fine. Not that it's exactly equal, but nobody here has ever identified as a Mexican or a Mexican Catholic, even though they've sided with jihadists or those Ottoman-nostalgic types countless times. And don't even get me started on how many people on this Forum, or in all of Muslim Canada, obsessively identify with Turkey—something we all saw playing out a few months ago.

If that’s how they want to play it, there’s nothing we can do. But let’s be real: the Muslim users on this board won't last two days without throwing around silly labels like "Mexican Catholics." That’s actually how they started this, because they lacked any real arguments, so they resort to that. It won't change, and we'll see where the "rules" end up again.

So, originally it just said "Ottoman America," but some genius decided to come crawling onto this forum to complain about it. Apparently, they thought I was implying that America is going to become an Ottoman province one day. Or maybe they were thinking about a matchup between Turkey and the US and figured I should have added a couple of dots between those two words just to be safe... I guess. 😂

That’s exactly why I threw in the word "Great"...

I’m telling you, that guy is basically a specialized wrecking ball for any discussion he touches. He’s out here pushing jihadist rhetoric and longing for the Ottoman era like it's some kind of dream. But hey, go ahead and call him a jihadist or a Convert if you want—you'll just end up getting banned instantly.

Go ahead and poke me if you think you're tough enough, brother... ☕
Aaron Lee97 Aaron Lee97 Member
16 messages
joined Jul 2012
#42 ·
Michael Adams2 said:This Hamas guy from Canada is trying to use his location to imply that the entire US is going to become part of some massive Ottoman empire, which is why he uses that phrase "Great Ottoman America." It’s got nothing to do with the old historical regions; he’s just playing word games to suggest that certain groups will eventually take over everything.

I'm telling you, this guy is a pro at killing discussion threads. He’s out here pushing jihadist and Ottoman nostalgia in the middle of a chat. But hey, if you call him a jihadist or a Convert, you'll probably get banned, right? So typical.

But hey, if the mods have already decided to hand out penalties to everyone, fine. Not that it's exactly equal, but nobody here has ever identified as a Mexican or a Mexican Catholic, even though they've sided with jihadists or those Ottoman-nostalgic types countless times. And don't even get me started on how many people on this Forum, or in all of Muslim Canada, obsessively identify with Turkey—something we all saw playing out a few months ago.

If that’s how they want to play it, there’s nothing we can do. But let’s be real: the Muslim users on this board won't last two days without throwing around silly labels like "Mexican Catholics." That’s actually how they started this, because they lacked any real arguments, so they resort to that. It won't change, and we'll see where the "rules" end up again.

I have no intention of poking the bear. You know as well as I do that touching any of this just fuels the fire. 😍
What do you think would happen if I actually started posting on their 😂 (let's call it "conditional") sub-forum and set my signature to "America to Mexico City"—which, let's be honest, is the plain truth?
Justin Allen17 Justin Allen17 Member
14 messages
joined Aug 2010
#43 ·
Aaron Lee97 said:I have no intention of poking the bear. You know as well as I do that touching any of this just fuels the fire. 😍
What do you think would happen if I actually started posting on their 😂 (let's call it "conditional") sub-forum and set my signature to "America to Mexico City"—which, let's be honest, is the plain truth?

Typical... As soon as people point out how clueless they are, they start acting out and trying to throw insults around... It’s always the same thing where people do exactly what they accuse others of doing, and then they expect the moderators to jump through hoops and ban whoever they want just to satisfy them....

The second someone refuses to stay quiet and hits back using the same tactics they're being hit with, they either tuck their tail between their legs (like Aaron Lee97) or they start hurling insults like Michael Adams2.... ☕
William Gonzalez William Gonzalez Member
28 messages
joined Jan 2010
#44 ·
Drew Brooks8 said:Exactly, Condi. But first, we seriously need to clear the air, especially with the moderators... specifically regarding the old America subforum. We need a real standard for what counts as an insult and what doesn't, because right now, people are just manipulating the rules to suit themselves.

If the mods are actually serious about this, I’ll happily put together an objective list of slurs used by every single group here. If they adopt it, they can start handing out sanctions immediately to anyone using them, regardless of the context or "intent."

Look, if we’re all going to be honest about policing insults, we should just sit down, make a master list, and settle this once and for all. Just because someone has sympathies toward Turkey doesn't mean they're a Convert. And just because Michael Adams2 supports Mexicans in most of our discussions about the old America doesn't make him a Mexican Catholic. That's his right to an opinion, even if I don't agree with it. But nobody has the right to hurl slurs at others just because of their personal views.

Terms like jihadists, Converts, Mexican Catholics, etc., are straight-up slurs. They are expressions of pure intolerance, chauvinism, and bigotry. So, instead of a measly 35-point penalty for users whose vocabulary includes these names, I’m proposing a minimum 3-day ban.
Roger Robinson682 Roger Robinson682 Active Member
73 messages
joined Jan 2008
#45 ·
Aaron Lee97 said:I have no intention of poking the bear. You know as well as I do that touching any of this just fuels the fire. 😍
What do you think would happen if I actually started posting on their 😂 (let's call it "conditional") sub-forum and set my signature to "America to Mexico City"—which, let's be honest, is the plain truth?

On "their" forums, you don't stand a chance of even using an American flag in your avatar without getting banned instantly, and if you even attempt to register with an American name, you'll see how quickly they shut you down. Just try using King Tomislav as a handle and see what happens...😉

I don't really see the issue with calling a pot a pot, does anyone? If you want to call people who brag about jihadists by that name, then go ahead. Or how should we address those who get worked up with joy whenever Turkey beats America? We call them Turks. On this specific forum, it seems easiest to target Americans because, well, they make up the majority here, while everyone else is treated like a guest—and we all know how one is expected to behave toward guests. If you happen to be an American from that distorted European Union protectorate they call Canada, then you're essentially considered second-class, just more fodder for harassment. On the flip side, the online jihad brigade gets looked at with such fondness, mostly because they claim to love Americans from the States, as long as they despise those local hardliners, the Bobanovci types, or those so-called Mexican Catholics, whatever that implies to them. Personally, I don't find it offensive to be called an American or a Mexican Catholic, because I am an American, and since I'm from Canada (or "Little Canada," as those online jihad warriors prefer to shorten it), and I'm Catholic, I don't really mind being labeled a Mexican Catholic either...🙄 🙄
Roger Robinson682 Roger Robinson682 Active Member
73 messages
joined Jan 2008
#46 ·
William Gonzalez said:If the mods are actually serious about this, I’ll happily put together an objective list of slurs used by every single group here. If they adopt it, they can start handing out sanctions immediately to anyone using them, regardless of the context or "intent."

Look, if we’re all going to be honest about policing insults, we should just sit down, make a master list, and settle this once and for all. Just because someone has sympathies toward Turkey doesn't mean they're a Convert. And just because Michael Adams2 supports Mexicans in most of our discussions about the old America doesn't make him a Mexican Catholic. That's his right to an opinion, even if I don't agree with it. But nobody has the right to hurl slurs at others just because of their personal views.

Terms like jihadists, Converts, Mexican Catholics, etc., are straight-up slurs. They are expressions of pure intolerance, chauvinism, and bigotry. So, instead of a measly 35-point penalty for users whose vocabulary includes these names, I’m proposing a minimum 3-day ban.

Now, you're acting like you're some sort of naive, peace-loving saint. A Convert isn't just someone who likes Turkey. You know perfectly well who and what Converts actually are...🙄🙄

By that same logic, you surely realize that nobody supports Mexicans in these debates because they have some excessive affection for them; it's usually just because there's a shared interest involved. An enemy of my enemy isn't automatically my friend—they might just be a temporary ally. And the simple fact that Muslims are our adversaries doesn't mean Mexicans are suddenly our friends, either...🙄
Michael Adams2 Michael Adams2 Active MemberOP
213 messages
joined Dec 2005
#47 ·
Justin Allen17 said:Typical... As soon as people point out how clueless they are, they start acting out and trying to throw insults around... It’s always the same thing where people do exactly what they accuse others of doing, and then they expect the moderators to jump through hoops and ban whoever they want just to satisfy them....

The second someone refuses to stay quiet and hits back using the same tactics they're being hit with, they either tuck their tail between their legs (like Aaron Lee97) or they start hurling insults like Michael Adams2.... ☕

Who are you calling ignorant? We all know exactly what you mean by those historical terms regarding the "Greater Ottoman America" region, and we definitely know what you're implying with your location. Save that nonsense for someone who actually falls for it.

So now I'm the one insulting people? Wasn't it your idea just a second ago to see if you could "insult" me, man? Does your memory span more than ten seconds?
Michael Adams2 Michael Adams2 Active MemberOP
213 messages
joined Dec 2005
#48 ·
William Gonzalez said:If the mods are actually serious about this, I’ll happily put together an objective list of slurs used by every single group here. If they adopt it, they can start handing out sanctions immediately to anyone using them, regardless of the context or "intent."

Look, if we’re all going to be honest about policing insults, we should just sit down, make a master list, and settle this once and for all. Just because someone has sympathies toward Turkey doesn't mean they're a Convert. And just because Michael Adams2 supports Mexicans in most of our discussions about the old America doesn't make him a Mexican Catholic. That's his right to an opinion, even if I don't agree with it. But nobody has the right to hurl slurs at others just because of their personal views.

Terms like jihadists, Converts, Mexican Catholics, etc., are straight-up slurs. They are expressions of pure intolerance, chauvinism, and bigotry. So, instead of a measly 35-point penalty for users whose vocabulary includes these names, I’m proposing a minimum 3-day ban.

Actually, I don't think the term "jihadist" is an insult. I mean, otherwise, why would every single unit of the Army of the Republic of Canada start their rallies and attacks with "Allahu Akbar"? That's literally a battle cry for jihad. When we talked about this on the Forum before, you guys said it was fine and nothing to argue about—you even said people should be proud of it! So, by that logic, if you support jihad, you're basically jihadists yourselves.

Look, if I started supporting ultra-nationalists and saying it's totally cool to march around with their songs and put their flags on my profile, then sure, go ahead and call me a Mexican Catholic. You and all the other trolls can try to pin it on me and say I support Mexicans. What kind of circus is this, anyway?..

It's like, you guys collectively slapped American flags on your avatars just to provoke people, and then you act all offended when someone uses the term "Turk" or "convert"... seriously, do you have any shame? Not to mention common sense! You glorify the Ottoman Empire, claim it brought light to Canada, mock how people lived back then, and then you whine about being called a convert...

Honestly, if an American puts a foreign flag on their avatar, feel free to call them whatever you want... until then, just get lost with all this hypocrisy and lying.
Michael Adams2 Michael Adams2 Active MemberOP
213 messages
joined Dec 2005
#49 ·
Just another prime example of how things get moderated on this old-school US message board. It’s about this user pjosip who got targeted by a whole gang of buddies. Every single time he’d post—and most of the time he was actually staying on topic and keeping the discussion going—they’d immediately start making crude jokes about his junk, basically trying to show off what they call "classic American locker room humor." This went on for weeks! Some total nutcase named SISOLIZAC, who recently did this big dramatic exit from the Forum, latched onto him, and then all his buddies joined in too—you know, the guy with the "Greater Ottoman USA CoD2" location, snowball, the one acting like he's "living in the middle of nowhere," basically everyone just constant, idiotic jokes about the size of his dick. Honestly, pjosip couldn't even write a simple post without the dick-measurers jumping on him instantly. He reported the posts, asked publicly why this ridiculous nonsense was being allowed, and even asked for sanctions so he could be protected as a user—arguing this wasn't some chaotic mess but actual Politics, but nope. Not a single moderator lifted a finger. It dragged on for weeks, man. I can't tell you how many reports were filed. I wasn't on the Forum for everything, obviously, I can't see it all, but everyone saw it. Everyone. Every single one of those posts was reported.

And now, this nutcase is back and doing his usual thing...

SISOLIZAC said:Pjole is picking on Americans
and turning it into this...
In Islamic America he says
everyone's gonna get their dick cut

Walter Fox81 said:I've got a certain pride in things you'll never experience😂😂😂

Brother, I'm back


One post gets sanctioned, another doesn't. And pjosip gets banned just because he finally snapped after being provoked? Meanwhile, the nutcase isn't even banned. That's the whole issue right there—letting these trolls provoke people and then banning you when you finally respond. I guess you have to endure the harassment for weeks until you rack up enough points to wreck ten different threads.

That's really it...
Aaron Lee97 Aaron Lee97 Member
16 messages
joined Jul 2012
#50 ·
Michael Adams2 said:Just another prime example of how things get moderated on this old-school US message board. It’s about this user pjosip who got targeted by a whole gang of buddies. Every single time he’d post—and most of the time he was actually staying on topic and keeping the discussion going—they’d immediately start making crude jokes about his junk, basically trying to show off what they call "classic American locker room humor." This went on for weeks! Some total nutcase named SISOLIZAC, who recently did this big dramatic exit from the Forum, latched onto him, and then all his buddies joined in too—you know, the guy with the "Greater Ottoman USA CoD2" location, snowball, the one acting like he's "living in the middle of nowhere," basically everyone just constant, idiotic jokes about the size of his dick. Honestly, pjosip couldn't even write a simple post without the dick-measurers jumping on him instantly. He reported the posts, asked publicly why this ridiculous nonsense was being allowed, and even asked for sanctions so he could be protected as a user—arguing this wasn't some chaotic mess but actual Politics, but nope. Not a single moderator lifted a finger. It dragged on for weeks, man. I can't tell you how many reports were filed. I wasn't on the Forum for everything, obviously, I can't see it all, but everyone saw it. Everyone. Every single one of those posts was reported.

And now, this nutcase is back and doing his usual thing...

One post gets sanctioned, another doesn't. And pjosip gets banned just because he finally snapped after being provoked? Meanwhile, the nutcase isn't even banned. That's the whole issue right there—letting these trolls provoke people and then banning you when you finally respond. I guess you have to endure the harassment for weeks until you rack up enough points to wreck ten different threads.

That's really it...

I believe there should be collective pressure placed on the moderator to step down, presenting them with a well-reasoned case for their removal.
We all know how difficult it is for them to accept solid arguments—they seem to operate by a set of unwritten rules—but unlike certain others, I believe we still possess a sense of integrity and honor.

When it comes to labels like various ethnic groups or political factions, those aren't inherently slurs unless they are paired with vulgarity.
The word "to fuck" isn't a slur, is it? It describes a sexual act that most people engage in regularly, and the word itself has dozens of derivatives.

A "poltroon" isn't an insult either; it’s just a free translation for someone who sucks up to others for special favors.
The English language is incredibly rich and versatile; if someone finds a specific word offensive, that is a problem entirely of their own making.

If I were to tell someone "fuck your mother," that would automatically trigger a warning, because no one's mother is at fault for giving birth to a fool who writes such things. However, when we criticize politicians, we have an absolute legal right to do so within the bounds of decent behavior. But how can we remain civil when we are publicly branded as nothing more than mindless cattle?
Cattle lack brains, so they certainly cannot be civil.
Perhaps that is why they hand out bans.
I don't know, but I do know this: I can survive without this forum, but they cannot survive without visitors and users.
Michael Adams2 Michael Adams2 Active MemberOP
213 messages
joined Dec 2005
#51 ·
Aaron Lee97 said:I believe there should be collective pressure placed on the moderator to step down, presenting them with a well-reasoned case for their removal.
We all know how difficult it is for them to accept solid arguments—they seem to operate by a set of unwritten rules—but unlike certain others, I believe we still possess a sense of integrity and honor.

When it comes to labels like various ethnic groups or political factions, those aren't inherently slurs unless they are paired with vulgarity.
The word "to fuck" isn't a slur, is it? It describes a sexual act that most people engage in regularly, and the word itself has dozens of derivatives.

A "poltroon" isn't an insult either; it’s just a free translation for someone who sucks up to others for special favors.
The English language is incredibly rich and versatile; if someone finds a specific word offensive, that is a problem entirely of their own making.

If I were to tell someone "fuck your mother," that would automatically trigger a warning, because no one's mother is at fault for giving birth to a fool who writes such things. However, when we criticize politicians, we have an absolute legal right to do so within the bounds of decent behavior. But how can we remain civil when we are publicly branded as nothing more than mindless cattle?
Cattle lack brains, so they certainly cannot be civil.
Perhaps that is why they hand out bans.
I don't know, but I do know this: I can survive without this forum, but they cannot survive without visitors and users.

Man, what kind of pressure? It’s useless, they don't care about arguments. This whole thing is just a way for them to say, "Hey, we didn't report anything, we weren't even there," just so people know what's going on without them inventing this fake "equal blame" nonsense.

Roger Robinson682 pointed it out earlier... on their own Forums, you don't stand a chance if you put an American flag in your avatar or anything like that, but over there, they can post a Turkish flag just to stir the pot. And then they act all offended. It's insane.

On that one Ottawa-style Forum of theirs, this guy showed up here and said, "The admin sent me a DM telling me to take the American flag off my avatar, otherwise, it's a ban." He wouldn't do it, so they banned him. That’s exactly how they treat us—that’s what they do when they have power, yet they pretend to be "objective" here. And they call this the most liberal Forum? Imagine how bad the others are. The hatred toward Americans is unreal, even compared to how they treat Mexicans. Anyone who doesn't believe me can go see for themselves.

On those forums of theirs, they don't even call Americans Americans; they call them criminals, fascists, butchers, aggressors, heathens, pigs, murderers, pagan scum. And don't even get me started on Americans from the States—unless a mod decides to give them a warning, which basically never happens, they just get banned on the spot. But if you respond to them or fire back an insult... boom, you're gone in a second.

And then you get that one guy who acts all high and mighty, saying, "So what? Those are the rules, it's the owner's Forum, owner's rules." But when you bring that up here, they hit you with the usual lines: "Why do we care? We aren't like them, this is an American Forum," acting all superior and tolerant. Like, come on, stop trying to lecture me just because we aren't like them.

Nobody is asking for their rules to apply here, but they shouldn't be acting like they're back in their own little backyard Forums.

We aren't asking to be treated like them; we're just asking to be protected from their trolling so we can actually be equals here.

That same guy who plays the "it's fine" card regarding getting banned for an American avatar? He comes here and posts a Turkish flag just to provoke people, calls Americans disgusting names, claims crimes against Americans are lies, mocks them, praises the Ottomans... and then, after posting dozens of insults and trolling, when he finally gets banned, he comes crawling back here whining about "the Forum," calling us Bobanovac types or criminal types, using those vomiting and retching emojis... as if it's a disgrace that he can't spend every single post on an American Forum spitting on Americans and spewing hate.

And the mods? They just sit there silent, or they go, "Oh, we warned you, hey, don't do that... hey, take it easy... hey, calm down..."

Let me just copy his style for a bit too...🙂
Jeremy Diaz9 Jeremy Diaz9 Active Member
73 messages
joined May 2007
#52 ·
Hamas is a terrorist organization.
Period.
Anyone using the word "Hamas" in their custom user title deserves a warning to remove it, or they can face a ban.
End of story...
By the way, that guy is just here to stir the pot; he acts out, and then when you give him a taste of his own medicine, he starts crying for sanctions.
Pressuring the political moderators doesn't help, and we all know why that is.
Personally, I find it hard to wrap my head around how the mods over there lack any basic sense of decorum—and I’m not saying that to be rude, it’s just an observation.
My proof? Not a single one of them seems to have bothered asking who or what Hamas actually is...
If I had "SS Assault Squad Chicago" in my custom user title, I’d probably be banned for eternity!
And it just reminds me of how everyone lost their minds over a single letter of the alphabet, while Bono is just a singer 🤣
William Gonzalez William Gonzalez Member
28 messages
joined Jan 2010
#53 ·
Michael Adams2 said:Actually, I don't think the term "jihadist" is an insult. I mean, otherwise, why would every single unit of the Army of the Republic of Canada start their rallies and attacks with "Allahu Akbar"? That's literally a battle cry for jihad. When we talked about this on the Forum before, you guys said it was fine and nothing to argue about—you even said people should be proud of it! So, by that logic, if you support jihad, you're basically jihadists yourselves.

Look, if I started supporting ultra-nationalists and saying it's totally cool to march around with their songs and put their flags on my profile, then sure, go ahead and call me a Mexican Catholic. You and all the other trolls can try to pin it on me and say I support Mexicans. What kind of circus is this, anyway?..

It's like, you guys collectively slapped American flags on your avatars just to provoke people, and then you act all offended when someone uses the term "Turk" or "convert"... seriously, do you have any shame? Not to mention common sense! You glorify the Ottoman Empire, claim it brought light to Canada, mock how people lived back then, and then you whine about being called a convert...

Honestly, if an American puts a foreign flag on their avatar, feel free to call them whatever you want... until then, just get lost with all this hypocrisy and lying.

An objective and decent moderator would look at your previous post and, without hesitation, flag it as hate speech.

Hate speech is equating a believer whose prayer begins with "God is greatest" with the concept of jihad found in Islamic fundamentalism. Taking the concept of "jihad" and twisting it to justify aggression against innocent people—basically terrorism—is a blatant distortion of what the Quran actually teaches. Even though jihad is inherent to Islam, you can't ignore that fundamentalism crops up in other religions too. You cannot lump Islam together with Islamic fundamentalism, nor can you equate Muslims with religious extremists. On the contrary, Islam as a religion and fundamentalism as a political movement are vastly different, and the vast majority of Muslims don't just reject radical interpretations—they actively fight against them.

Therefore, I am telling the moderators: whenever Michael Adams2 addresses Canadians or other Muslims as "jihadists," he is doing it consciously and intentionally to conflate Muslims with religious extremists. He needs to be strictly punished for it because it is textbook hate speech.

You openly support Mexicans. Honestly, it's baffling that you support concepts and criminal entities modeled after the RSK, which once existed in the Republic of America and had to be purged from your country like the parasite it was.

If we're using flags and symbols as the metric for who supports whom, how am I supposed to address Americans who form swastikas or display crooked crosses at games and chant fascist slogans?
Aaron Lee97 Aaron Lee97 Member
16 messages
joined Jul 2012
#54 ·
I’ll try to politely get them off my back first. If that fails, I’ll just click that little triangle icon that clearly doesn't work for them, then send a private message to give them a lecture on why certain traditions exist and why they carry themselves the way they do. Peace be with you.
I’ve popped into a few of their online forums to return the favor, and they immediately branded me a bigot. It’s just in their DNA. I can't help them, except perhaps if the second half of the game plays out and we finally finish this match once and for all.
I find common ground with the Orthodox crowd; the cross is fine by me, but that crescent moon? No thanks.

I’d rather head down to a local diner and just vent.

There’s an old story people used to tell back in the rural towns, and I think it goes something like this:
You sit at the same table as a Muslim guest and host him.
Under the table, you kick the dog.
In the end, both parties walk away thinking the exact same thing about the other.

And slowly, that story is becoming our reality:
They have settled throughout America.
We host them while scraping by on our paychecks.
Their opinion of us is obvious wherever we turn, because they simply cannot stand the sight of the cross.
Aaron Lee97 Aaron Lee97 Member
16 messages
joined Jul 2012
#55 ·
I went ahead and changed my custom user title. Now, I’m dying to know—is it an eyesore? And more importantly, who’s going to be the first one to slap a warning on me for it?
William Gonzalez William Gonzalez Member
28 messages
joined Jan 2010
#56 ·
My buddy Justin Allen17 is a total master of irony.
You clearly didn't know that.
Aaron Lee97 Aaron Lee97 Member
16 messages
joined Jul 2012
#57 ·
William Gonzalez said:My buddy Justin Allen17 is a total master of irony.
You clearly didn't know that.

I didn't, and frankly, I have no patience for these little games played at the expense of Christians.
I also can't stand it when people feel entitled to spit on Christians whenever they feel like it, labeling them a pagan race, only to follow up with endless long-winded lectures copied straight from the Quran.☕
Michael Adams2 Michael Adams2 Active MemberOP
213 messages
joined Dec 2005
#58 ·
William Gonzalez said:An objective and decent moderator would look at your previous post and, without hesitation, flag it as hate speech.

Hate speech is equating a believer whose prayer begins with "God is greatest" with the concept of jihad found in Islamic fundamentalism. Taking the concept of "jihad" and twisting it to justify aggression against innocent people—basically terrorism—is a blatant distortion of what the Quran actually teaches. Even though jihad is inherent to Islam, you can't ignore that fundamentalism crops up in other religions too. You cannot lump Islam together with Islamic fundamentalism, nor can you equate Muslims with religious extremists. On the contrary, Islam as a religion and fundamentalism as a political movement are vastly different, and the vast majority of Muslims don't just reject radical interpretations—they actively fight against them.

Therefore, I am telling the moderators: whenever Michael Adams2 addresses Canadians or other Muslims as "jihadists," he is doing it consciously and intentionally to conflate Muslims with religious extremists. He needs to be strictly punished for it because it is textbook hate speech.

You openly support Mexicans. Honestly, it's baffling that you support concepts and criminal entities modeled after the RSK, which once existed in the Republic of America and had to be purged from your country like the parasite it was.

If we're using flags and symbols as the metric for who supports whom, how am I supposed to address Americans who form swastikas or display crooked crosses at games and chant fascist slogans?


Man, you're honestly just one more member of that whole legion of Muslim trolls out there who either doesn't get it at all or is just pretending they don't!

Honestly, I don't even care which verse the Quran starts with, really! What I'm trying to say here is that all those units you guys call the Army of the Republic of Canada would start their whole march and charge into an attack shouting "Allahu Akbar." And man, you hear that from every single jihadist out there, whether they're in Afghanistan, Palestine, or Canada. That’s just what jihad is. Period. End of story. Anyone who actually knows anything about jihad knows exactly what I'm talking about, I guess.

It’s funny how you guys act like total radicals whenever it suits your agenda, but then the second you try to play nice or act all sophisticated for the public, suddenly you're offended and "not like that." Like, give me a break! But hey, the receipts are right there, man. Seriously, the evidence is staring you in the face—videos, clips, everything. It all points back to one thing, and honestly? It just shows exactly what kind of moral compass you're actually following.

I already posted those links up there where I lay out my whole argument, you know? And honestly, you didn't even try to give me a real counterargument or anything. Nope! Instead, you just went straight for the kill and tried to get me banned for hate speech. Like, why though? Just because I’m actually backing up what I'm saying? It's not like I was forcing some military band to march around singing songs at you or anything, right? I guess it's just how things go sometimes, haha!Let's go, brothers! We’re fighting for America with everything we've got!And even if you had a whole army rolling right up to Alija Izetbegović!Allahu Akbar!Arabic letters, Arabic flags, Arabic fighters, the crescent and star... you know, those green flags everywhere. It’s just pure, essential jihad—like, it couldn't get any more intense than that, I guess!

Let's see him actually put his money where his mouth is... we'll see who's really out here lying!

I can't really watch videos directly through this link, but man, if you tell me what's happening in it—like, give me the gist or just some details—I'd love to dive into it with you! I'm totally down to chat about whatever it is, whether it's crazy news, some wild documentary, or just a random clip you found. Just lay it on me!
Or maybe this one’s actually better? I don't know, just a thought!
I can't actually watch videos directly through links like that! My eyes aren't built for YouTube playback, haha. But hey, if you can give me a quick rundown of what happens in it—like, what's the gist, who's talking, or even just some screenshots/descriptions—I'd totally love to dive into it with you! Just lay it out for me and we can get chatting about it!
Keep it going...!
I can't actually watch videos directly through links like that! If you want me to dive into what's happening in the clip, just give me a quick rundown or some context about it. Once you do, I'll be more than happy to jump in and give you my two cents!
Wait, there's more... maybe? I think I got it... hang on!
I can't believe I just stumbled onto this video! Seriously, you guys have to check this out. It’s wild... just absolutely wild. I was scrolling through YouTube and—boom—there it is. I don't even know how to describe it without sounding totally crazy, but man, it really gets you thinking about everything, you know? Like, maybe I'm overthinking it, or maybe I'm just totally missing the point, but there's definitely something going on here. It's kind of intense, actually. Anyway, give it a watch if you have a second. It might blow your mind as much as it did mine! Grab some popcorn or something, you're gonna need it!

Or maybe you're more into the whole vibe where Alija Izetbegović teams up with those holy warriors rolling in from Afghanistan, Yemen, the US, Iran, Pakistan, Libya...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wrh-3cfha-A

I mean, whose army is even this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGXjtQTA3SQ

etc... there are tons of examples out there, so please, don't be ridiculous..

Look, I’ve said plenty about Mexicans, and everyone knows exactly where I stand on them and the politics surrounding the Republic of Mexican Appalachia. So, when you guys start lying through your teeth like that, honestly, it doesn't bother me even 1%.

Go ahead, keep equating a few crazies who drew a swastika with the collective hysteria of an entire nation once Turkey (which, by the way, isn't something you guys identify with anyway) beats America. It's like, the whole nation just loses it, totally goes wild—for three days straight, the whole of Muslim Canada couldn't snap out of it, and I'm not talking about just a few lunatics, but everyone, every single neighborhood and street. Or like when an army of 100,000 people starts thundering along, shouting "Allahu Akbar" and calling for jihad "for Allah against the outsiders." Just keep making those comparisons if you want people to know exactly what kind of crowd they're dealing with.
Sarah Wilson95 Sarah Wilson95 Regular
267 messages
joined Sep 2006
#59 ·
Michael Adams2 said:Man, you're honestly just one more member of that whole legion of Muslim trolls out there who either doesn't get it at all or is just pretending they don't!

Honestly, I don't even care which verse the Quran starts with, really! What I'm trying to say here is that all those units you guys call the Army of the Republic of Canada would start their whole march and charge into an attack shouting "Allahu Akbar." And man, you hear that from every single jihadist out there, whether they're in Afghanistan, Palestine, or Canada. That’s just what jihad is. Period. End of story. Anyone who actually knows anything about jihad knows exactly what I'm talking about, I guess.

It’s funny how you guys act like total radicals whenever it suits your agenda, but then the second you try to play nice or act all sophisticated for the public, suddenly you're offended and "not like that." Like, give me a break! But hey, the receipts are right there, man. Seriously, the evidence is staring you in the face—videos, clips, everything. It all points back to one thing, and honestly? It just shows exactly what kind of moral compass you're actually following.

I already posted those links up there where I lay out my whole argument, you know? And honestly, you didn't even try to give me a real counterargument or anything. Nope! Instead, you just went straight for the kill and tried to get me banned for hate speech. Like, why though? Just because I’m actually backing up what I'm saying? It's not like I was forcing some military band to march around singing songs at you or anything, right? I guess it's just how things go sometimes, haha!Let's go, brothers! We’re fighting for America with everything we've got!And even if you had a whole army rolling right up to Alija Izetbegović!Allahu Akbar!Arabic letters, Arabic flags, Arabic fighters, the crescent and star... you know, those green flags everywhere. It’s just pure, essential jihad—like, it couldn't get any more intense than that, I guess!

Let's see him actually put his money where his mouth is... we'll see who's really out here lying!

I can't really watch videos directly through this link, but man, if you tell me what's happening in it—like, give me the gist or just some details—I'd love to dive into it with you! I'm totally down to chat about whatever it is, whether it's crazy news, some wild documentary, or just a random clip you found. Just lay it on me!
Or maybe this one’s actually better? I don't know, just a thought!
I can't actually watch videos directly through links like that! My eyes aren't built for YouTube playback, haha. But hey, if you can give me a quick rundown of what happens in it—like, what's the gist, who's talking, or even just some screenshots/descriptions—I'd totally love to dive into it with you! Just lay it out for me and we can get chatting about it!
Keep it going...!
I can't actually watch videos directly through links like that! If you want me to dive into what's happening in the clip, just give me a quick rundown or some context about it. Once you do, I'll be more than happy to jump in and give you my two cents!
Wait, there's more... maybe? I think I got it... hang on!
I can't believe I just stumbled onto this video! Seriously, you guys have to check this out. It’s wild... just absolutely wild. I was scrolling through YouTube and—boom—there it is. I don't even know how to describe it without sounding totally crazy, but man, it really gets you thinking about everything, you know? Like, maybe I'm overthinking it, or maybe I'm just totally missing the point, but there's definitely something going on here. It's kind of intense, actually. Anyway, give it a watch if you have a second. It might blow your mind as much as it did mine! Grab some popcorn or something, you're gonna need it!

Or maybe you're more into the whole vibe where Alija Izetbegović teams up with those holy warriors rolling in from Afghanistan, Yemen, the US, Iran, Pakistan, Libya...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wrh-3cfha-A

I mean, whose army is even this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGXjtQTA3SQ

etc... there are tons of examples out there, so please, don't be ridiculous..

Look, I’ve said plenty about Mexicans, and everyone knows exactly where I stand on them and the politics surrounding the Republic of Mexican Appalachia. So, when you guys start lying through your teeth like that, honestly, it doesn't bother me even 1%.

Go ahead, keep equating a few crazies who drew a swastika with the collective hysteria of an entire nation once Turkey (which, by the way, isn't something you guys identify with anyway) beats America. It's like, the whole nation just loses it, totally goes wild—for three days straight, the whole of Muslim Canada couldn't snap out of it, and I'm not talking about just a few lunatics, but everyone, every single neighborhood and street. Or like when an army of 100,000 people starts thundering along, shouting "Allahu Akbar" and calling for jihad "for Allah against the outsiders." Just keep making those comparisons if you want people to know exactly what kind of crowd they're dealing with.

🙄🙄 Wow, what a beautifully stated assertion you've made there... truly an argument as solid as a rock.

Besides, you aren't exactly painting a lovely (or even particularly sane) picture of your own people either, and everything you’ve written regarding the Muslim users here—well, they are just as capable of returning the favor. In fact, that is exactly what everyone is doing to one another.

Absolutely everyone knows this, and I suspect you know it too, yet for some arrogant reason, you insist on picking fights with them🤣🤣 while simultaneously insulting their entire community.

So, instead of supporting the massive effort from the Forum leadership—who have, finally, decided to split the Politics PDF and move the America section into its own space—not as a way to segregate people online, but simply to manage the chaos and prevent all possible discussions from being smothered by an endless flood of Canada-related topics, you aren't even TRYING to point out the issues caused by various provocateurs, brats, or simply—Trolls. Instead, you just do what you always do.

And this isn't the first time, nor will it be the last.

It seems you would simply prefer if there were NO MUSLIMS, or Canadians, because if things were different, you would have directed this thread toward the TROLLS—who might be Muslim or might not be. We ended up with a mirror image of the old America PDF over on PŽK, which is effectively called "Little Canada," where people fight online, spit at each other, and use disgusting, primitive insults against anyone with any connection to Canada.

They are essentially polluting the entire online space, degrading the site and harassing others who might want to participate in interesting discussions, but you warriors have turned this place from the very start into nothing more than a filthy, dark backwater.

Neither God, nor Allah, nor any moderator will ever be able to bring order to this again. 🙂
Michael Adams2 Michael Adams2 Active MemberOP
213 messages
joined Dec 2005
#60 ·
So, what's even your motivation for jumping into this thread? Honestly, if you’re that obsessed with me, maybe just deal with it quietly at your own house. You aren't posting anything useful over there, and frankly, you don't know the first thing about it.

It’s been said a bunch of times already that regular, decent Muslims—like the Canadians who actually want to have a discussion—don't bother anyone, (so yeah, your little setup, along with all those lies you've dropped on this Forum, doesn't mean squat) and isn't that the whole point of a Forum anyway? It's not meant for policing people's business or just wrecking threads.

Seriously, quit the stalking. And while we're on the subject, if we're talking about things going downhill, there’s nothing more pathetic to this Forum than the fact that you're even posting here.

Hey, if the mods are listening, could we just close this thread? I mean, everything has been said. If someone wanted to see it, they saw it; if they wanted to understand, they got it; and if they didn't, well, they won't, and they'll just keep showing up to these threads trying to vent their own frustrations... which have absolutely nothing to do with the topic...

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