The Breakfast Club (2007)

The Breakfast Club ( 2007 )

After wading through mountains of Hollywood trash, this Estonian student film actually treats you like an intelligent human being—no ridiculous plot twists, no messy resolutions, and zero attempts by the director to fry your brain. It’s just simple, raw, and totally real. Honestly, this stuff happens all the time—more than once, actually, sometimes even worse. The story follows a group of pretty average-looking Estonian students (well, except for one girl) navigating their everyday social chaos (just watch the movie to see how it plays out)

http://imdb.com/title/tt0988108/

user rating: 8.6/10 (1,181 votes)

Turns out, Estonians actually know how to make a movie. 👍

Come on, guys—we can't have Robert De Niro and Al Pacino carrying every single movie. Tarantino is busy, probably at some party in Iceland or something. I honestly thought there were actual cinephiles in here, but it’s just a bunch of Hollywood A-listers. This flick is incredible—even though it's an Estonian film, it blows 95% of the mainstream movies we all know out of the water. You guys really let me down. Go watch the movie already; I'll be hanging out here. Just go, just go!

Look, if nobody posts anything about this movie by tomorrow night, I’m seriously gonna make my niece eat half a pound of her own warm diaper crap.

Caught it
I’m with you—the movie is fantastic, even if it is a bit of a grueling watch...

Did you at least lie to her and tell her it was Rocky Balboa?🙂

Seriously, how long does it take you guys to actually watch something? Next time I open a thread, I expect everyone to show up instantly 😁.

Look, if this topic hits home—and honestly, most people probably have some memories from their high school days that trigger this—it’s because the characters are irritating and just not as charming as we usually like them (is that even a word? Lol, making up my own vocabulary now 😁). Either way, it's a movie worth seeing. It actually has some meat on its bones.

No, I told her it was hot chocolate 😍

wiredtiger10 said:Look, if nobody posts anything about this movie by tomorrow night, I’m seriously gonna make my niece eat half a pound of her own warm diaper crap.

Wait, what do you mean, "your niece"?

Anyway, I had every intention of catching this masterpiece at the Sundance Film Festival, but I just couldn't make the timing work, so I ended up downloading it and I literally just finished watching it... 🙂 God, those teenage filmmakers are absolute trash!!!! My hands are actually shaking right now 🙂 I don't even know, I can't quite put it into coherent words... It’s just a good, devastating film.. The ending was somewhat predictable, I guess..

Pretty solid movie.
I’ll likely pick up a copy when it hits Blu-ray next February.

Alright, now that you guys have actually piqued my interest in this movie—can anyone hook me up with an American .srt, .txt, or .sub file for it?

please

Raymond Palmer8 said:Alright, now that you guys have actually piqued my interest in this movie—can anyone hook me up with an American .srt, .txt, or .sub file for it?

please

I've been searching everywhere... nothing turned up 🤷

I think Klass is absolutely phenomenal! 🙏
Honestly, I haven't been this blown away by a movie since I first saw Haneke's stuff. 😲

It’s kind of a bummer that people aren't talking about it more...

Absolutely insane. I was literally on the edge of my seat during those last ten minutes.🙂

velvetdrifter86 said:Absolutely insane. I was literally on the edge of my seat during those last ten minutes.🙂

Me too. 😳
So, I guess I’m basically some kind of total pacifist now, too. Like, I'm supposedly against any kind of physical conflict whatsoever.
I got totally played here... honestly, to the point where I feel like they went way too far punishing my classmates. It felt almost inhuman.

So, what happens when they go after half the class who isn't even part of their group—are you guys staying out of it?

What half of them?
From what I can recall, the only one was Kaspar killing that girl back in eighth grade. Everyone else was just part of some planned "cleanup" of the entire crew that had been systematically bullying them. 🤷
But obviously, that violence isn't justified either...

It’s been about two years since I watched that, but if I recall correctly, at least three or four girls were killed, and none of them were even bullies. "Of course violence isn't okay, but I was honestly rooting for the massacre, and it turned out fine because the only casualty was some eighth grader who shouldn't have been there anyway" is terrifying enough on its own. I can only imagine what Joe Rogan would have to say about that 🙂

Of course it's unsettling. Who knows what Haneke would say about it 🙂
but I feel the exact same way about Peter and Paul from Funny Games...
I honestly don't know if there's any way to "fairly" punish bullies and predators like that. Like, in the case of someone like Luke Ritz getting beaten to death, should we just throw the culprits into juvenile hall—basically a reform school—and give them a chance to do the exact same thing once they're out, like that actually happened? Or should we meet force with force?
Please enlighten me if you know of any solution that actually works somewhere in the world. It would make my day 🙂

Correction: at the end, two girls in Klass are killed. One of them is Rina, who—despite witnessing all the bullying by the class predators (just like all the other girls)—didn't have the guts to push back against their narrative and ended up supporting them instead. Just because they weren't physically attacking Joseph and Kasper doesn't mean they weren't complicit.
The second girl is that eighth grader who ended up being totally innocent and right in front of the main target, Anders. Kasper shot her. An unplanned victim.
Joseph also shot at Kasper's ex-girlfriend, but he didn't let him finish her off...
All the guys in the class who directly bullied them were killed; they went after them specifically. They didn't care about anyone else, so they let them go right at the beginning...
Again, I'm not claiming that responding to violence with more violence is justified, but I think it's impossible to stay indifferent toward the abusers in this movie. They trigger something in you. Definitely not good feelings. And I'm sure you want to see them punished somehow.
+ Plus, obviously, the film pushes you to question your own moral compass, but at the same time, it puts you right in their shoes. You aren't just some outside observer...

Lisa Davis46 said:Of course it's unsettling. Who knows what Haneke would say about it 🙂
but I feel the exact same way about Peter and Paul from Funny Games...
I honestly don't know if there's any way to "fairly" punish bullies and predators like that. Like, in the case of someone like Luke Ritz getting beaten to death, should we just throw the culprits into juvenile hall—basically a reform school—and give them a chance to do the exact same thing once they're out, like that actually happened? Or should we meet force with force?
Please enlighten me if you know of any solution that actually works somewhere in the world. It would make my day 🙂

Correction: at the end, two girls in Klass are killed. One of them is Rina, who—despite witnessing all the bullying by the class predators (just like all the other girls)—didn't have the guts to push back against their narrative and ended up supporting them instead. Just because they weren't physically attacking Joseph and Kasper doesn't mean they weren't complicit.
The second girl is that eighth grader who ended up being totally innocent and right in front of the main target, Anders. Kasper shot her. An unplanned victim.
Joseph also shot at Kasper's ex-girlfriend, but he didn't let him finish her off...
All the guys in the class who directly bullied them were killed; they went after them specifically. They didn't care about anyone else, so they let them go right at the beginning...
Again, I'm not claiming that responding to violence with more violence is justified, but I think it's impossible to stay indifferent toward the abusers in this movie. They trigger something in you. Definitely not good feelings. And I'm sure you want to see them punished somehow.
+ Plus, obviously, the film pushes you to question your own moral compass, but at the same time, it puts you right in their shoes. You aren't just some outside observer...

So, here we go. To start things off, he's firing away in a situation where he couldn't even hit a fourteen-year-old girl if he were aiming at a stationary target. A pretty decent start, I suppose. As for wanting revenge—if you're truly ready to take extreme measures—there are plenty of more effective ways to handle it than storming into a cafeteria full of a hundred kids and opening fire.

I've read quite a bit about those high school shootings that the end of this movie references. Usually, it involves kids struggling with varying degrees of mental illness; everything from severe superiority complexes and delusions of being "cleansers" removing the unworthy, to schizophrenia, racial hatred, or auditory hallucinations. Sometimes it’s masked as simple bullying, but there is always something deeper lurking underneath.

This film didn't bother with all that; it focused exclusively on bullying. Because of that, the ending felt like just another cliché Hollywood trope that ruins otherwise great international cinema (like *The Experiment* or *The Wave*...). You could basically summarize this movie as bully picks on geek, geek fights back in the style of some silly *Straw Dogs* rip-off that this film really shouldn't have been. Since bullying is an issue in almost every school and lacks a simple fix, there was room for a much more impactful conclusion. But let's be honest, it's hard to top Dustin Hoffman's ultimate Revenge of the Nerds vibe in 😁

Roger Allen3 said:So, here we go. To start things off, he's firing away in a situation where he couldn't even hit a fourteen-year-old girl if he were aiming at a stationary target. A pretty decent start, I suppose. As for wanting revenge—if you're truly ready to take extreme measures—there are plenty of more effective ways to handle it than storming into a cafeteria full of a hundred kids and opening fire.

I've read quite a bit about those high school shootings that the end of this movie references. Usually, it involves kids struggling with varying degrees of mental illness; everything from severe superiority complexes and delusions of being "cleansers" removing the unworthy, to schizophrenia, racial hatred, or auditory hallucinations. Sometimes it’s masked as simple bullying, but there is always something deeper lurking underneath.

This film didn't bother with all that; it focused exclusively on bullying. Because of that, the ending felt like just another cliché Hollywood trope that ruins otherwise great international cinema (like *The Experiment* or *The Wave*...). You could basically summarize this movie as bully picks on geek, geek fights back in the style of some silly *Straw Dogs* rip-off that this film really shouldn't have been. Since bullying is an issue in almost every school and lacks a simple fix, there was room for a much more impactful conclusion. But let's be honest, it's hard to top Dustin Hoffman's ultimate Revenge of the Nerds vibe in 😁

Where exactly did this notion come from that it wasn't supposed to be that way?

I personally believe it is.

What’s the harm in having a standard teen revenge flick out there in the world? 🤷

And what makes you say that?

If a movie tackles a heavy subject with real weight, I expect a conclusion that carries that same gravity. This ending just felt completely disconnected from everything we’d watched up to that point. Honestly, that sudden jump to the credits felt incredibly rushed—almost like one of those abrupt, poorly edited YouTube clips.

Maybe the goal was to trick the audience into rooting for the massacre, only to force us to question our supposed "pacifist" views once the lights come up. I can see that logic, but it still doesn't change the fact that it felt totally inconsistent with the rest of the film.

Roger Allen3 said:And what makes you say that?

If a movie tackles a heavy subject with real weight, I expect a conclusion that carries that same gravity. This ending just felt completely disconnected from everything we’d watched up to that point. Honestly, that sudden jump to the credits felt incredibly rushed—almost like one of those abrupt, poorly edited YouTube clips.

Maybe the goal was to trick the audience into rooting for the massacre, only to force us to question our supposed "pacifist" views once the lights come up. I can see that logic, but it still doesn't change the fact that it felt totally inconsistent with the rest of the film.

In my view, it wasn't abrupt at all; it was actually quite predictable. Those kids were pushed to their limit, and they finally fought back. Case closed.🙂