Unforgettable movie torture scenes

Susan Bailey4 said:Directors who make movies like Cannibal Holocaust, where they actually go out and kill animals, could probably remake Hostel without feeling a shred of guilt. Honestly, seeing people get killed in a movie doesn't bother me at all, but slaughtering animals? That’s just low, even for us humans.

🙄 As if meat just grows on trees, right?

Susan Bailey4 said:Directors who make movies like Cannibal Holocaust, where they actually go out and kill animals, could probably remake Hostel without feeling a shred of guilt. Honestly, seeing people get killed in a movie doesn't bother me at all, but slaughtering animals? That’s just low, even for us humans.

🙏

hehe.

I haven't seen anyone mention CASINO yet. That part where they catch Joe Pesci and his brother out in the cornfields. First, they just beat the brother senseless with a baseball bat while he’s forced to watch, knowing exactly what's coming for him next. There's that specific sound—the thud of the impact hitting a body that's already been broken, twitching because the pain hasn't even subsided yet. It honestly gives me a knot in my stomach every single time. Then you get Joe Pesci; there aren't even full scenes, just these haunting suggestions of what's happening. To top it all off, they bury them alive. Just the slow, rhythmic sound of shovels hitting sandy soil. At the end of the day, teeth pulling and vampires and Nazis don't phase me, but with a little effort, this kind of thing can happen—and it has.

Pink Flamingos - they just absolutely wreck that chicken, kill her... then a van just pulls up and devours her 👍

Payback(1999)

There’s that intense sequence in > where they tie Mel Gibson to a chair, completely barefoot, and then Kris Kristofferson starts interrogating him about his kidnapped son. Of course, he refuses to talk, so the mob torturer just goes to town, smashing his hammer down on his little toe with everything he's got... 😲 "9 more to go, tell me where my son is???" Gibson replies, "This little piggie stayed home," and then—bam—the next toe gets hit... 😲 Honestly, even watching it through a TV screen, I could feel the physical pain... 👎

I can’t quite recall the title of this one right now, but I believe the setting was the Middle East, involving a scene where Al-Qaeda members were using submachine guns on the knees and elbows of captured Americans... 😲

And here is an unexpected one, an oldie but a goodie 😁(only for those with nerves of steel, consider yourselves warned)... That controversial scene kicks off at the 5:00 mark, so don't come crying to me if you weren't cautioned... 👍

The beast of war(1988)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkJ7p...eature=related

Jerry Sanders96 said:🙄 As if meat just grows on trees, right?

Oh, so you're one of those people who thinks the whole world exists just to serve us?

No. Why would you even ask that?

Jerry Sanders96 said:No. Why would you even ask that?

Because personally, killing innocent animals isn't something you can just write off as a "need for meat." Sure, maybe 10,000 years ago, but not today when there are so many other options. And honestly, anyone claiming they have a "right" to those animals... well, I've got thoughts on that, but I won't go there.
Your comment is definitely heading in that direction.

Matthew Anderson4 said:Because personally, killing innocent animals isn't something you can just write off as a "need for meat." Sure, maybe 10,000 years ago, but not today when there are so many other options. And honestly, anyone claiming they have a "right" to those animals... well, I've got thoughts on that, but I won't go there.
Your comment is definitely heading in that direction.

And what defines an innocent animal anyway? To me, there's just edible and inedible 👍. And why should I care if dogs are eaten in China or dolphins in Japan, or a turtle in some movie? 🙄

Nicholas Chavez70 said:Payback(1999)

There’s that intense sequence in > where they tie Mel Gibson to a chair, completely barefoot, and then Kris Kristofferson starts interrogating him about his kidnapped son. Of course, he refuses to talk, so the mob torturer just goes to town, smashing his hammer down on his little toe with everything he's got... 😲 "9 more to go, tell me where my son is???" Gibson replies, "This little piggie stayed home," and then—bam—the next toe gets hit... 😲 Honestly, even watching it through a TV screen, I could feel the physical pain... 👎

I can’t quite recall the title of this one right now, but I believe the setting was the Middle East, involving a scene where Al-Qaeda members were using submachine guns on the knees and elbows of captured Americans... 😲

And here is an unexpected one, an oldie but a goodie 😁(only for those with nerves of steel, consider yourselves warned)... That controversial scene kicks off at the 5:00 mark, so don't come crying to me if you weren't cautioned... 👍

The beast of war(1988)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkJ7p...eature=related

Ugh. 😁

They shouldn't have crushed him. It's just messed up cleaning up those tracks. 🙂

For me personally, killing innocent animals can't be justified by a "need for meat." Sure, maybe 10,000 years ago, but not today when we have so many other food sources available. As for anyone who claims they have a "right" to those animals, I have thoughts on that, but I don't intend to write them down here.
Your statement is heading right in that direction.

We weren't even talking about that anymore; the point was simply the fact that it's easier for Susan Bailey4 to get over killing a human than an animal. It has absolutely nothing to do with vegetarianism.

Matthew Anderson4 said:Because personally, killing innocent animals isn't something you can just write off as a "need for meat." Sure, maybe 10,000 years ago, but not today when there are so many other options. And honestly, anyone claiming they have a "right" to those animals... well, I've got thoughts on that, but I won't go there.
Your comment is definitely heading in that direction.

So what's the actual distinction here between a turtle and a farm pig or a cow? What, are pigs somehow less innocent than a turtle?

Jerry Sanders96 said:So what's the actual distinction here between a turtle and a farm pig or a cow? What, are pigs somehow less innocent than a turtle?

The real difference is you aren't gonna see someone dismember or tear apart a cow or a pig just for the sake of some movie scene.
In my book, killing animals for food is totally fine. But killing them for "art"—like that psycho who starved a dog to death in a museum recently—that’s just straight-up idiocy.

Alexander Cruz32 said:The real difference is you aren't gonna see someone dismember or tear apart a cow or a pig just for the sake of some movie scene.
In my book, killing animals for food is totally fine. But killing them for "art"—like that psycho who starved a dog to death in a museum recently—that’s just straight-up idiocy.

Wrong. In Cannibal Holocaust, they kill and eat that turtle. 😉
And why exactly is it a sin or idiotic to kill a chicken or a turtle for art? 🙄

Alexander Cruz32 said:The real difference is you aren't gonna see someone dismember or tear apart a cow or a pig just for the sake of some movie scene.
In my book, killing animals for food is totally fine. But killing them for "art"—like that psycho who starved a dog to death in a museum recently—that’s just straight-up idiocy.

I'm with the bolded guy here, but honestly, a turtle was eaten in Cannibal Holocaust, so I really don't see what the big deal is.

rustyscout34 said:Wrong. In Cannibal Holocaust, they kill and eat that turtle. 😉
And why exactly is it a sin or idiotic to kill a chicken or a turtle for art? 🙄

But they killed them specifically for the movie—those actors weren't exactly starving enough to need a turtle snack, and I bet it wasn't even their first choice on the menu while filming.
I don't think you quite get the "art" angle here—there's a massive difference between killing an animal and literally starving it to death, or, you know, breaking Beagles' bones like those creeps used to do at vet schools.
Most people know animal cruelty is a serious crime here in the States, so honestly, I don't see how anyone could find that okay.

Anyway, we drifted a little too far off-topic—let's get back to the main point.

Isn't the point of the debate

Personally, I don't have any issue with killing people, but animals killing others is just beneath the dignity of the human race.

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Alexander Cruz32 said:But they killed them specifically for the movie—those actors weren't exactly starving enough to need a turtle snack, and I bet it wasn't even their first choice on the menu while filming.
I don't think you quite get the "art" angle here—there's a massive difference between killing an animal and literally starving it to death, or, you know, breaking Beagles' bones like those creeps used to do at vet schools.
Most people know animal cruelty is a serious crime here in the States, so honestly, I don't see how anyone could find that okay.

Anyway, we drifted a little too far off-topic—let's get back to the main point.

They aren't, but maybe you should ask yourself what the actual message of this film is. If all you see is violence, then I guess there's nothing I can do to help you. 🤷

I don't think you really get the whole art thing here—it isn't the same thing as killing an animal versus starving it to death, or like those cases where they used to break bones of Beagles at vet schools.

Well, it isn't the same, but if it's serving the film and the message it's trying to send, I don't really have an issue with it. One chicken or a turtle being used for art doesn't bother me much. 😉

You probably know that animal cruelty is a felony in the US, so I honestly don't see how anyone could find that normal.

Anyway, we've gone a bit too far off-topic here—let's get back to the main point.

That's why special effects exist in movies. 🙂

David Price5 said:Isn't the point of the debate

Personally, I don't have any issue with killing people, but animals killing others is just beneath the dignity of the human race.

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I guess there isn't much to argue about here, is there? 🙂

Alexander Cruz32 said:But they killed them specifically for the movie—those actors weren't exactly starving enough to need a turtle snack, and I bet it wasn't even their first choice on the menu while filming.
I don't think you quite get the "art" angle here—there's a massive difference between killing an animal and literally starving it to death, or, you know, breaking Beagles' bones like those creeps used to do at vet schools.
Most people know animal cruelty is a serious crime here in the States, so honestly, I don't see how anyone could find that okay.

Anyway, we drifted a little too far off-topic—let's get back to the main point.

Oh, come on, kids these days will shoot birds right out of the sky with a Flober for no reason at all, yet here you are, acting all horrified over one picked-apart turtle.

David Price5 said:Isn't the point of the debate

Personally, I don't have any issue with killing people, but animals killing others is just beneath the dignity of the human race.

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Clearly not.😁