9/11 Conspiracy

Laura Palmer25 said:Personally, I'm convinced that plane didn't just happen to crash into a field; it was shot down by the Americans (it was headed toward the White House), because what else could explain it? Maybe the passengers made it to the cockpit and fought back, or maybe some action hero like Steven Seagal was on board and took matters into his own hands? In every Hollywood movie with a similar setup (even Air Force One), the standard American political playbook is to take down the plane regardless of the innocent people on board if hitting the final target would cause more damage.
So, when it comes to this specific plane, nobody can convince me otherwise (at least not yet).
As for everything else, I'm not so sure. If what that documentary suggests is true, then we're left with two massive questions:
-If it wasn't bin Laden, who had the guts—even within the most radical Republican circles—to pull off a conspiracy this big?
-If it wasn't bin Laden, why did he claim responsibility (if I recall correctly, he admitted to everything)?😕 😕 😕

that's clearly a staged confession

Brian Carter13 said:The official version? ...Are you even aware that over 66% of Americans are calling for a new investigation??

...Do you realize that 3,000 people died that day, and 50,000 others are currently facing life-threatening health issues? Many have already passed away from inhaling toxic dust and debris—air that the government claimed was perfectly safe to breathe that day. They still haven't admitted to that mistake, which essentially led those people to their deaths. To make matters worse, the first responders and recovery workers who risked everything to pull survivors from the rubble haven't received a single cent in compensation for their illnesses. Some of these folks are forced to take upwards of 20 pills a day just to function. This has been going on since the time of September 11.

..All those families suffering the loss of their loved ones aren't satisfied. Why? Because 70% of the questions they’ve asked remain unanswered—questions posed to the government and the paid experts who penned that little report the administration released.

We aren't talking about some wild conspiracy theory here... we are talking about evidence. Please, don't be so lazy that you refuse to watch movies where evidence is presented point by point regarding physics, mathematics, engineering, controlled demolition, and logic. All of this evidence is rooted in the fundamental laws of physics. Don't you believe in the laws of physics??

Take some time. Actually study the case.
Google

That's just how it is.

Man, this is the kind of topic I live for. Seriously, why didn't I stumble upon this thread sooner? What I can't wrap my head around is how the terrorists—or whoever actually pulled this off—managed to get into the cockpit in the first place. I mean, you don't just stroll into those flight decks... those doors are built like tanks, designed so they can't be breached even if the Hulk himself came knocking. But according to how this played out, these guys (who supposedly weren't even armed, if I'm following correctly) didn't just take down the entire crew, the pilots, and any potential action stars like Steven Seagal... they actually managed to breach a highly restricted area that stays locked tight regardless of threats or suspicious activity.

Good lord 🤣

It’s just blindingly obvious that this was an inside job orchestrated by the government or whoever is pulling the strings behind the scenes... I mean, it is just NOT POSSIBLE for a steel structure to collapse like that... it simply isn't physically possible...
The buildings were brought down by controlled demolitions right inside the main steel framework. It's actually common knowledge that they were doing all those elevator repairs around the buildings just a few weeks prior... acting as total cover...
Of course, you won't hear a peep about this from most of the mainstream media outlets, but if you just look at who actually owns them, 90% of the media is controlled by just a handful of massive corporations... we're talking Time Warner, News Corp, Viacom...
And you can find those exact same owners showing up at secret Bilderberg meetings and stuff like that...

People who genuinely believe those buildings were taken out by planes are living in a complete fantasy land, and honestly, they're clearly just uninformed... The truth is, it's way easier and much more comfortable to just buy into the official story. If you do, it makes it feel like the world isn't such a brutally messed up place, and it lets you pretend that Americans in the Middle East are actually spreading peace and democracy, and that everything is going to be fine... but the reality is unfortunately the exact opposite... it's just fucking messed up...

For more info, you should really check this out http://www.ae911truth.org/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HOTAUy_mrQ

Zachary Brown said:It’s just blindingly obvious that this was an inside job orchestrated by the government or whoever is pulling the strings behind the scenes... I mean, it is just NOT POSSIBLE for a steel structure to collapse like that... it simply isn't physically possible...
The buildings were brought down by controlled demolitions right inside the main steel framework. It's actually common knowledge that they were doing all those elevator repairs around the buildings just a few weeks prior... acting as total cover...
Of course, you won't hear a peep about this from most of the mainstream media outlets, but if you just look at who actually owns them, 90% of the media is controlled by just a handful of massive corporations... we're talking Time Warner, News Corp, Viacom...
And you can find those exact same owners showing up at secret Bilderberg meetings and stuff like that...

People who genuinely believe those buildings were taken out by planes are living in a complete fantasy land, and honestly, they're clearly just uninformed... The truth is, it's way easier and much more comfortable to just buy into the official story. If you do, it makes it feel like the world isn't such a brutally messed up place, and it lets you pretend that Americans in the Middle East are actually spreading peace and democracy, and that everything is going to be fine... but the reality is unfortunately the exact opposite... it's just fucking messed up...

For more info, you should really check this out http://www.ae911truth.org/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HOTAUy_mrQ

Bravo.


This drifted away from a discussion about the movie a long time ago, so I suppose there is really no point in trying to restart it again.
Lock, lock?

The issue with movies covering this topic is they just dump a ton of data on you that doesn't mean squat to me. Like, I don't know the first thing about structural physics—so I can't really weigh in on whether those folks claiming the building couldn't have collapsed that way are actually onto something.

As for the whole conspiracy question—the claims that bin Laden was pulling all the strings come straight from the same people who "found" the evidence for Saddam's weapons of mass destruction (which, let's be real, never actually showed up).

Give me a break. We're going to "uncover" some big secret and then the US government will just swoop in and haul us all away... if they even bother to talk to us here in the first place. 🤔🙂