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Struggling to sleep? Any tips?

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#21 ·
It could be an iron deficiency, but honestly, some people are just perfectly healthy and their bodies demand 10 hours of sleep. I know plenty of folks where even 10 hours isn't enough. If you fall into that category, you’ll spend your whole life sleeping through your potential and never actually build anything for yourself. 🙂

There’s another factor to consider here. I read somewhere a while back that there are basically two types of human biorhythms—morning people and night owls. Some people thrive early in the day, while others are at their absolute peak during late-night hours.
The real issue usually hits those night owls who are forced into a standard 9-to-5 grind. Based on their internal clocks, they'd probably be much more productive working the graveyard shift.
Zachary Bennett7 Zachary Bennett7 Newcomer
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#22 ·
It’s actually the complete opposite for me. Like, I can’t seem to drag myself out of bed in the morning no matter if I clocked 6, 7, 8, or 9 hours of sleep. Then I’m just dragging my feet all day, and by 11 PM, I'm totally wiped. It's been going on for months now and it's killing me. I'm starting to wonder if it's chronic fatigue or something, but I don't have any flu symptoms or anything. Honestly, I can't even focus on studying—it's brutal. Does anyone know which kind of doctor I should actually see to fix this? I heard you can get certain meds for this stuff in Washington, D.C., but I'm nowhere near there. Hit me up, please help a girl out! 😢
Lisa Moore7 Lisa Moore7 Member
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#23 ·
Zachary Bennett7 said:It’s the exact opposite for me. For example, I can't get out of bed in the morning no matter if I slept 6, 7, 8, or 9 hours...

Actually, I'm pretty much the same. If I hit the sack at 11 PM or 4 AM, I’m still waking up around 10. The only difference is if I stay up late, I have to nap in the afternoon just to survive the exhaustion...

On the other hand—honestly, maybe it's just laziness. Back when I worked 7 AM shifts, I was fine. Getting up was a struggle, sure, but I’d be functional within 15 minutes. And I rarely needed those afternoon naps back then. But yeah—if I went to bed after 11 PM, mornings were a total disaster...
Anthony Miller13 Anthony Miller13 Active MemberOP
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#24 ·
Lisa Moore7 said:My situation is fairly similar, actually. Whether I turn in at 11:00 PM or find myself heading to bed at 4:00 AM, my internal clock seems set to wake me up around 10:00 AM regardless. The only real difference is that if I take the late route, I’ll inevitably need a nap in the afternoon just to function; otherwise, the exhaustion hits me like a freight train.

I wish I had that kind of consistency... teach me your ways. 🤔 😬
Jack Baker15 Jack Baker15 Member
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#25 ·
I’ve been struggling with insomnia for over a year now.
Things have improved slightly, I suppose, but the fallout—well, that lingers.
I’m perpetually sleep-deprived, constantly exhausted, and my eyes just sting...
😢
But the real trick is sticking to a circadian rhythm. If you actually commit to hitting the sack at the same time every night (ideally by midnight), eventually things might start to level out.
It’s a classic bit of advice, really.
At one point, I couldn't sleep AT ALL—it got so bad that after about a week, I was actually hallucinating.😱 But that's in the rearview mirror now.
Still, the sleep issues continue to plague me. I tried medication, but nothing worked. I’ve gone through Melatonin, Benadryl, Samuel... absolutely nothing! For instance, last night I went to bed at midnight (being a "good girl") and ended up wide awake by 5 AM because I just couldn't drift off. And I am bone-tired.
I mean, who knows what actually works...☕
Kyle Nelson2 Kyle Nelson2 Regular
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#26 ·
So why didn't you just go at 10 instead?
Have you maybe tried Normabel?
ruggedfalcon2 ruggedfalcon2 Active Member
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#27 ·
I haven't really caught up on this thread yet... but I’d suggest using Samuel if you're dealing with those nights where you just can't drift off—like when you have a huge meeting the next morning and absolutely need the rest. Normabel works well too, but honestly, relying on any of that stuff long-term can lead to dependency... 😢
crimsonorca12 crimsonorca12 Newcomer
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#28 ·
I’m not sure if this applies to the original poster, but here’s how things played out for me.

Back when I was a student and my life was basically a mess—pulling all-nighters studying or just staying out way too late—my circadian rhythm was completely trashed. I couldn't fall asleep until sunrise. Then I'd catch a nap in the afternoon, which meant I was wide awake at night... just a constant, exhausting loop.

Once I entered the workforce and started facing that brutal 6:00 AM alarm every morning, everything changed. Now, if I hit the sack around midnight or 1:00 AM, I’m out in five minutes flat. I sleep like a baby.😁

On the weekends, I might catch up on a little extra rest, getting about seven hours, and honestly... I don't have any sleep issues anymore.
placidowl6 placidowl6 Newcomer
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#29 ·
Earplugs were a total game changer for me—they used to bug me out, but now they’re basically mandatory if I want any kind of decent sleep. Highly recommend them to anyone who can stomach having a little wax in their ear.

These sound suppressors work so well that I can barely hear the insane, jet-engine roar from my PC tower sitting right by my feet.
gentlebear8 gentlebear8 Member
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#30 ·
..after a lot of trial and error, I finally managed to kick insomnia and get back to my regular eight hours of uninterrupted sleep and dreaming. But here’s the catch: I don't touch coffee after 2 p.m., I hit the gym at least twice a week, I stay away from late nights whenever possible, and I head to bed at almost the exact same time every single night... yet, if I happen to miss two nights of sleep in a row, I just cut the cycle short on the third night and take some Samuel (5mg). Samuel is a hypnotic, not a sedative, and you have to use it correctly—which, in my case, means making sure I actually get a full eight hours of rest so I don't feel the fallout the next morning.
placidowl6 placidowl6 Newcomer
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#31 ·
How long does it actually take to pass out after taking some Samuel?
gentlebear8 gentlebear8 Member
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#32 ·
placidowl6 said:How long does it take you to drift off after taking Samuel?

..I’m out within thirty minutes.
Frank Cooper3 Frank Cooper3 Member
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#33 ·
I’m struggling too. I’ve dealt with my fair share of intense psychological stress and bouts of depression lately. I'm finally starting to claw my way out of it, but things are still shaky. For the last month—maybe a little less—falling asleep has been a nightmare. I hit the sack at midnight, but I don't actually drift off until around 3:00 AM. Then, once I am under, I’m waking up constantly. My head is just buzzing with noise; I can't stay asleep. It's especially brutal when I'm at home in my own bed. Strangely enough, when I stay over at my boyfriend's place, the problem vanishes. I sleep like a log there, even if we turn in just as late.
What should I do? Honestly, I have no clue. I feel like I'm losing my mind when these pointless, racing thoughts start spinning in my head.
gentlebear8 gentlebear8 Member
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#34 ·
Frank Cooper3 said:I’m struggling too. I’ve dealt with a lot of mental stress and bouts of depression lately; I’m finally starting to pull through, but it’s been an uphill battle. For the last month or so, sleep has been nearly impossible. I hit the sack at midnight, don't drift off until 3 AM, and then I'm waking up every hour because my head won't stop spinning. It's constant. Strangely enough, it's worst when I'm in my own bed. When I stay over at my boyfriend's place, I sleep like a baby, even if we go to bed just as late.
What am I supposed to do? Honestly, I feel like I'm losing my mind when these useless thoughts start racing through my head.

...I'm not sure what the move is if depression is part of the equation, but if I were you, I'd try flipping the orientation of my bed at home. I take Samuel because after two nights of zero sleep or just terrible rest, the exhaustion hits so hard that the fatigue itself starts triggering insomnia that can drag on for ten days straight—and I really don't have the energy for that.🙄 As for the depression, I'm convinced that getting physically worn out helps clear the fog. I mean this regarding those random, irrational dips in mood. If you go for a few miles or hit the gym for an hour or so, things tend to look a little different.🙂
placidowl6 placidowl6 Newcomer
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#35 ·
It’s a total scam trying to cure insomnia just by reading a good book—honestly, it rarely works.😉
gentlebear8 gentlebear8 Member
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#36 ·
...I read regularly before hitting the hay, but if I'm actually struggling to drift off, there isn't a book or a movie out there that can do the trick for me.😉
ruggedfalcon2 ruggedfalcon2 Active Member
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#37 ·
placidowl6 said:Earplugs were a total game changer for me. They used to bother me at first, but now they're practically a requirement for a decent night's sleep. Highly recommend them to anyone who can handle having a bit of wax in their ears.

Sound dampeners are so effective that I can barely hear my computer tower sitting right by my feet—it sounds like a B-52 engine is idling under my desk...

Which ones do you use? Johnson & Johnson? If so, can you pick them up easily in Washington, D.C.?
😕
placidowl6 placidowl6 Newcomer
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#38 ·
gentlebear8 said:...I read regularly before bed, but if I can't drift off, there isn't any book or movie out there that actually puts me to sleep😉

Look, I’m telling you—go grab Hess's Glass Bead Game. It’s complex enough to absolutely wreck that army of gray matter in your brain—it'll send those little mental Ferraris straight to sleep for you.👍
placidowl6 placidowl6 Newcomer
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#39 ·
ruggedfalcon2 said:Which ones are you using? Johnson & Johnson? If so, can I actually find them in stores around Washington, D.C.?
😕

Any drugstore carries them—they cost next to nothing, like, pennies.

I’ve been hating them lately though—been shoving them in too deep and now my eardrums are killing me.😢
northernmaker2 northernmaker2 Newcomer
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#40 ·
placidowl6 said:I'm pushing them in too far and it starts hurting...😢

🤣

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