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Struggling to sleep? Any tips?

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Kevin Mitchell20 Kevin Mitchell20 Member
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#101 ·
Kyle Nelson2 said:The whole idea that you need to chug massive amounts of water comes from this notion that the liver just dissolves toxins in liquid to flush them out. But honestly, I guess what really matters is actually *what* you’re drinking...

Using coffee as a diuretic isn't exactly a smart move, because diuretics don't actually help the body process excess fluid—they just force the fluid out. Period.
If you want to actually refresh your system, maybe it's better to speed up fluid turnover through aerobic exercise rather than just forcing your kidneys into overdrive for drainage.

Anyone got more info on this? Like, how much water are we talking about? What kind of workouts... thanks
Noah Harris50 Noah Harris50 Active Member
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joined Mar 2007
#102 ·
Water is basically fuel for staying alive. You’re over 50% water, so it handles everything from moving nutrients around to keeping your blood volume and body temp steady. Take a second to think about how much you actually drink. To stay balanced and not feel like garbage, aim for at least five big glasses a day. Even a tiny bit of dehydration—the kind you don't even notice—can hit you with headaches or leave you feeling totally wiped out. Stick to water, milk, or some real fruit and veggie juices. It’s extra critical when it’s scorching outside or after a workout. Don't wait until you're thirsty; if you're hitting the gym, sip on something before, during, and after if you want to actually see results and avoid crashing.

Just remember, by the time you're thirsty, you're already dehydrated. Try to get through about 50 ounces a day. Plain water is your best bet.
Kyle Nelson2 Kyle Nelson2 Regular
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joined Jun 2008
#103 ·
Kevin Mitchell20 said:Anyone got more info on this? Like, how much water are we talking about? What kind of workouts... thanks

Workouts? I guess you could hit the stepper at the gym... but you really need to start with a warm-up first (like, maybe 5 minutes of jogging), then move into standard fitness stuff, and then wrap things up with at least 20 minutes of running...
But, honestly, you have to make sure your heart rate actually hits a certain threshold if you want any actual cardiovascular changes. Otherwise, it’s kind of pointless, though I can't quite remember the exact BPM you need to hit...

As for fluids? Just drink when you feel like it, I suppose. You've got all those different Gatorade drinks with electrolytes and stuff... you don't need to overdo it, just listen to your body. For example, I think marathon runners go through about a liter during a run and then slowly replenish it afterward... so yeah, they lose fluid during the race and then catch up later.
Kyle Nelson2 Kyle Nelson2 Regular
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joined Jun 2008
#104 ·
Noah Harris50 said:Water is basically fuel for staying alive. You’re over 50% water, so it handles everything from moving nutrients around to keeping your blood volume and body temp steady. Take a second to think about how much you actually drink. To stay balanced and not feel like garbage, aim for at least five big glasses a day. Even a tiny bit of dehydration—the kind you don't even notice—can hit you with headaches or leave you feeling totally wiped out. Stick to water, milk, or some real fruit and veggie juices. It’s extra critical when it’s scorching outside or after a workout. Don't wait until you're thirsty; if you're hitting the gym, sip on something before, during, and after if you want to actually see results and avoid crashing.

Just remember, by the time you're thirsty, you're already dehydrated. Try to get through about 50 ounces a day. Plain water is your best bet.

It’s weird how my body reacts to being dehydrated. I don't even get sleepy or a headache, I just end up feeling super thirsty instead.😉

I mean, maybe the whole thing about headaches being a dehydration symptom only really applies to alcoholics, mostly because you're losing fluid from your brain or whatever.
Noah Harris50 Noah Harris50 Active Member
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joined Mar 2007
#105 ·
Kyle Nelson2 said:It’s weird how my body reacts to being dehydrated. I don't even get sleepy or a headache, I just end up feeling super thirsty instead.😉

I mean, maybe the whole thing about headaches being a dehydration symptom only really applies to alcoholics, mostly because you're losing fluid from your brain or whatever.

that’s straight up wrong. happened to me plenty of times—got a killer headache without touching a drop of booze. drink a couple glasses of water and it’s gone in thirty minutes.
Brenda Ramos5 Brenda Ramos5 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2007
#106 ·
I’m not sure if anyone else has already thrown this out there, but personally, I swear by loose-leaf Melissa officinalis L. tea—skip those cheap little tea bags, they just don't hit the same. You can usually find some decent bulk stuff over at Whole Foods. My go-to move is to toss about four teaspoons into a small cup of hot water and just sip it while it's lukewarm without adding any sugar. Generally speaking, lemon balm is great for chilling out and taking the edge off, so I figure it might do the trick for you since I'm guessing your insomnia is basically just stress running wild. Fingers crossed it helps.😉
Kyle Nelson2 Kyle Nelson2 Regular
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#107 ·
Noah Harris50 said:that’s straight up wrong. happened to me plenty of times—got a killer headache without touching a drop of booze. drink a couple glasses of water and it’s gone in thirty minutes.

Did it ever cross your mind that you might not be the only person out there whose headaches get fixed by a glass of water instead of some Advil?
Noah Harris50 Noah Harris50 Active Member
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#108 ·
Kyle Nelson2 said:Did it ever cross your mind that you might not be the only person out there whose headaches get fixed by a glass of water instead of some Advil?

I don't give a damn about your magic medicine.
Noah Harris50 Noah Harris50 Active Member
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#109 ·
Brenda Ramos5 said:I’m not sure if anyone else has already thrown this out there, but personally, I swear by loose-leaf Melissa officinalis L. tea—skip those cheap little tea bags, they just don't hit the same. You can usually find some decent bulk stuff over at Whole Foods. My go-to move is to toss about four teaspoons into a small cup of hot water and just sip it while it's lukewarm without adding any sugar. Generally speaking, lemon balm is great for chilling out and taking the edge off, so I figure it might do the trick for you since I'm guessing your insomnia is basically just stress running wild. Fingers crossed it helps.😉

you know what lemon balm is called in Latin, English, or German?
Kevin Mitchell20 Kevin Mitchell20 Member
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joined Sep 2007
#110 ·
Lemon balm goes by Melissa officinalis L. in Latin, and you can find some extra details right
here...
Kevin Mitchell20 Kevin Mitchell20 Member
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joined Sep 2007
#111 ·
Kyle Nelson2 said:Workouts? I guess you could hit the stepper at the gym... but you really need to start with a warm-up first (like, maybe 5 minutes of jogging), then move into standard fitness stuff, and then wrap things up with at least 20 minutes of running...
But, honestly, you have to make sure your heart rate actually hits a certain threshold if you want any actual cardiovascular changes. Otherwise, it’s kind of pointless, though I can't quite remember the exact BPM you need to hit...

As for fluids? Just drink when you feel like it, I suppose. You've got all those different Gatorade drinks with electrolytes and stuff... you don't need to overdo it, just listen to your body. For example, I think marathon runners go through about a liter during a run and then slowly replenish it afterward... so yeah, they lose fluid during the race and then catch up later.

uh, forget the stepper... I'm more about the meditative stuff... yoga, martial arts therapy, though I can never quite nail the discipline part...
How much water? Just drink when you feel like it...

I've pretty much settled on those two liters everyone always talks about... I thought you were gonna share some new insight...
If I don't hit that, I just feel sluggish and tired... plus, I've gotten hooked on the spring water from the little town where I live, so if I don't have a bottle in my bag, I'm just not myself
Noah Harris50 Noah Harris50 Active Member
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joined Mar 2007
#112 ·
See? And you still don't have kidney issues, right? 🙂
I carry water in my bag too.
Brenda Ramos5 Brenda Ramos5 Newcomer
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#113 ·
I’ve been scrolling through the threads and noticed someone already chimed in regarding the scientific name for Melissa officinalis L., so I won't beat a dead horse there. That said, if you want a little extra help, grabbing some essential oil is a solid move—you can find it at places like CVS or Whole Foods for maybe $8.25. Just make sure you look for the Latin name on the label to be sure. If you’re using an aroma diffuser, drop about four drops in there, but don't forget to add plenty of water if you actually want to get some sleep; if the scent is too concentrated, it might actually wake you up, whereas diluting it with water helps create that calming vibe. Also, provided your skin isn't super sensitive, you can just drip a few drops onto a cotton pad soaked in warm water—or even better, soak it in some tea—and rest it on your temples for about 15 minutes. 🙂
Kyle Nelson2 Kyle Nelson2 Regular
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joined Jun 2008
#114 ·
Noah Harris50 said:I don't give a damn about your magic medicine.

Honestly, the local coffee shop is my only real prescription...
Noah Harris50 Noah Harris50 Active Member
116 messages
joined Mar 2007
#115 ·
Kyle Nelson2 said:Honestly, the local coffee shop is my only real prescription...

I take enough of that stuff when I need it. But honestly, why would I grab a Tylenol for dehydration when a glass of water—which is actually way better for you—does the trick?
Kevin Mitchell20 Kevin Mitchell20 Member
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joined Sep 2007
#116 ·
Noah Harris50 said:See? And you still don't have kidney issues, right? 🙂
I carry water in my bag too.

Actually, I think that habit saved my life. I had a rough time during childbirth—eclampsia, which ended up damaging my kidneys and liver. My husband was bringing me 3 liters of water every single day. My nephrologist was actually blown away by how fast my kidney function bounced back...
Brenda Peterson9 Brenda Peterson9 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2007
#117 ·
Been dealing with this insomnia crap for two weeks straight now—barely getting 5 or 6 hours a night. If I hit the sack at midnight, I’m wide awake by 6:00 AM (sometimes even 5:30...) and that's it. For two weeks, this has been the routine. Anyone have any clue what might be causing this? Once I'm up, there's zero chance of drifting back off... just toss and turn for two hours staring at the ceiling. I'm a college student, so I don't have an early start, but I need to get into study mode soon—if I keep pulling these shitty sleep cycles, I'm going to be completely useless.😢
jadeseal17 jadeseal17 Member
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joined Oct 2007
#118 ·
It’s possible—actually, probably—that you're just dealing with a stressful stretch right now. Even if you don't realize it, there might be some underlying tension, anticipation, or just general negative vibes hanging around. It could even be a little sign of mild depression or anxiety. My suggestion? Give some herbal remedies for insomnia a shot. They aren't harmful, they won't get you hooked, and there aren't really any contraindications to worry about. Look for something containing valerian, lemon balm, or St. John's Wort. You could also try taking a B-complex vitamin before bed to help relax and settle your nerves. Just keep in mind that with herbal stuff, you have to take it consistently over a bit of time to actually feel the effects. For instance, you could look for Persen or those "Erbe della notte" capsules... maybe check with a local health food store or a natural pharmacy.
Best,
silverfalcon7 silverfalcon7 Member
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joined Apr 2006
#119 ·
-make sure you keep your room well-ventilated so the air stays fresh
-maybe try sipping some chamomile tea before hitting the hay... or even a little melatonin if you really need it (though honestly, you could just go out for a smoke 😁 )
-if there's something weighing on your mind, just face it and get it sorted out
-try to tire yourself out a bit during the day with some exercise...
...
jadeseal17 jadeseal17 Member
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joined Oct 2007
#120 ·
Just a quick thought—try to wear yourself out a bit during the day by staying active, but maybe wrap up the physical stuff at least five hours before you hit the hay. Right before bed, sipping on some chamomile tea or even just a warm glass of milk—both with a little honey mixed in—can really help you unwind. It’s a classic combo that actually works to help you get a better night's sleep.

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