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Bioptron: My thoughts and experiences

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Participants Ashley Nguyen5amberorca192Nicole JamesJonathan Reed4ABryan Murphy84neonsurfer17Chloe Nguyen3Casey Palmer5Michael Anderson10briskranger2Melissa Perez10Casey Rogers47Sarah Ward84stormytinker88Jason Rodriguez74rustypanther39placidjackal36Scott Allen10
Ashley Nguyen5 Ashley Nguyen5 MemberOP
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joined Jul 2003
#1 ·
Does anyone here actually use a Zepter Bioptron lamp?
I’ve been wondering lately if they really live up to all the hype...
amberorca192 amberorca192 Active Member
118 messages
joined Oct 2005
#2 ·
I've got one, and honestly? It’s a game changer.👍
Ashley Nguyen5 Ashley Nguyen5 MemberOP
14 messages
joined Jul 2003
#3 ·
I was just wondering, what kind of specific issues are you using it for? If you wouldn't mind sharing, I would truly love to hear a bit more detail about your experience...
amberorca192 amberorca192 Active Member
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joined Oct 2005
#4 ·
I’ve mostly used it for bone injuries—stuff like broken knuckles or those hairline fractures you get from playing arcade games—plus when I had my tooth pulled, and even for sinus issues.

Wounds just heal way faster.

My mom actually used to lend hers out to people all the time, and a ton of them ended up buying their own after trying it once.
Nicole James Nicole James Regular
313 messages
joined Dec 2010
#5 ·
To honestly feels a bit like a placebo effect to me...
How is this thing actually supposed to work?
Jonathan Reed4 Jonathan Reed4 Active Member
53 messages
joined Jan 2004
#6 ·
I've got one! Any chance someone actually wants to buy it? 😁
amberorca192 amberorca192 Active Member
118 messages
joined Oct 2005
#7 ·
Nicole James said:Seems a bit like a placebo effect to me...
How is this thing even supposed to work?

It’s just polarized light.

Honestly, I wouldn't even be touching this stuff if my mom hadn't talked me into it.
A Anonymous Veteran
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#8 ·
I've actually had this little thing sitting around for several years now, and I haven't even gotten around to testing it out once 😁
Bryan Murphy84 Bryan Murphy84 Member
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joined Apr 2004
#9 ·
Ashley Nguyen5 said:Does anyone here actually use the Zepter Bioptron?
I'm wondering if it's actually worth the hype...

Well, here’s the full story, for better or worse... 🙄

I first heard about this device when my youngest was just six months old. He was dealing with some health issues and was prescribed some syrup that ended up triggering a nasty fungal infection in his mouth. Since he was nursing, it made eating almost impossible...

We ended up at the hospital where they wanted to start him on an IV immediately. They gave us a liquid rinse 🙄 meant to be swished around and then spit out. It was a baby. There was no way we were going to rub that stuff on him because even the slightest touch was excruciatingly painful. At the time, I wasn't up for staying overnight at the hospital, so we planned to head back the next morning if he still couldn't eat anything.
That afternoon, a friend dropped off a Bioptron. I used it on him about three times a day, maybe for six minutes each session. By that evening, he managed to eat a little, and within three days, the mouth sores were completely gone. 🙂

Naturally, I bought that "miracle" lamp on the spot. 🙄 It supposedly helps with wound healing, sinus congestion, colds... you name it, it's great.

As for how it works... from what I gathered, the polarized light acts on cell membranes by aligning the polar heads. The one thing this "magic" lamp can't do, however, is distinguish a healthy cell from a cancerous one. The polarized light treats them all the same—it works on the membrane to restore balance. If the membrane is functioning correctly, it facilitates better nutrient transport, which means more energy and faster healing. With cancer cells, the same process happens: the membrane returns to its "normal" state, allowing the cell to take in and expel substances easily, providing everything the cell needs to grow and multiply rapidly. 😢

So, when my mother's tumor grew to the size of a large chicken egg in just three months, we stopped using the Bioptron entirely. Now it just sits there gathering dust. Zepter claims... well, their representatives definitely mention that people with carcinoma shouldn't use the Bioptron. And they're right, but unfortunately, none of us can say with 100% certainty that we aren't dealing with something underlying. You might be in the early stages and not even know it yet.

So, it's a perfect little gadget, but—no thanks.

👋
neonsurfer17 neonsurfer17 Newcomer
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#10 ·
Bryan Murphy84 said:How does it actually work? From what I’ve gathered, polarized light interacts with cell membranes by aligning the polar heads. There is one thing this "miracle lamp" simply cannot do, though—it can't distinguish between a healthy cell and a tumor cell. Polarized light affects both equally. It works on the membrane to restore balance; if the membrane is functioning properly, the transport of substances in and out of the cell improves. More energy equals faster healing. But with tumor cells, the situation is different. As the membrane returns to its "normal" position, the flow of nutrients is restored, providing the cell with the perfect environment for rapid growth and uncontrolled multiplication. 😢

I’m sorry, but did you actually read that in the official manual or somewhere else? Because that sounds like pure science fiction to me—honestly, it’s almost laughable. Like someone else mentioned, it sounds like a total placebo effect.
A Anonymous Veteran
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#11 ·
So how exactly do these lasers affect our cells?
UV lasers are dangerous, just like UV lamps.
But what’s the deal with dermatological lasers or those low-power red lasers that only run at a few milliwatts? I know they're used for everything from skin treatments to acupuncture therapy.
Does anyone actually know the science behind it?
Chloe Nguyen3 Chloe Nguyen3 Member
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joined Jul 2003
#12 ·
Bryan Murphy84...🙂

I see you've actually used one of those lamps before, so I'm hoping you can give me a heads-up on a few things (even if it's just a rough idea);

My mom is dealing with uterine fibroids and she’s gone down the rabbit hole with all these alternative therapies—including that Zepter lamp.

Following some friend's advice—who supposedly saw her fibroids shrink after using it—she’s started "warming up" with the lamp four times a day for four minutes at a time.
Now she's wondering if hitting it that hard and that often is actually a "smart" move??
What kind of side effects am I looking at here?? Like, from using it that much??

Thanks a ton🙂 👋
Casey Palmer5 Casey Palmer5 Regular
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#13 ·
Low-level lasers shouldn't be used when dealing with tumors, regardless of the type.

I wouldn't even recommend using a Bioptron in those cases—if it’s anything more than just a placebo, you really shouldn't be applying it to any kind of tumor. Besides, the specific contraindications should be listed right there in the device's own manual, so you should definitely give that a look...
Chloe Nguyen3 Chloe Nguyen3 Member
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joined Jul 2003
#14 ·
Casey Palmer5 said:Low-power lasers shouldn't be used on tumors, period. No exceptions.

I wouldn't even touch the Bioptron if I were you—if this thing is anything more than a fancy placebo, you definitely shouldn't be using it near a tumor. Honestly, any actual contraindications should be right there in the device's manual, so just go read that.


Casey... we don't have the manual... this "machine" is just borrowed...😁

So, basically, you're saying it's a bad idea to use it for fibroids??
Casey Palmer5 Casey Palmer5 Regular
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#15 ·
Honestly, I’m not entirely sure, so I’ll try to look into it and see what I can find out.

A myoma is still a benign tumor, though... I'm just a little worried about any potential side effects...
Chloe Nguyen3 Chloe Nguyen3 Member
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joined Jul 2003
#16 ·
Casey Palmer5... give me a break🙏 🙂

She’s acting like she’s sixteen again😵 ...I'm honestly worried it's doing more harm than good🙂 She's pushing him way too hard, plus he's slathering on some herbal ointment she ordered from some random healer in Chicago for like $700😲 🙄
Bryan Murphy84 Bryan Murphy84 Member
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#17 ·
neonsurfer17 said:Look, did you actually read the manual or something? Because that sounds like straight-up science fiction to me, if not outright ridiculous... kind of like someone else mentioned, just a placebo effect.

A placebo effect only works if adults are using it—if they actually believe in it and all that. But I don't think that applies to babies. My little one used to sleep like a rock whenever I used the lamp, and he definitely didn't have any idea what was happening...
Bryan Murphy84 Bryan Murphy84 Member
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joined Apr 2004
#18 ·
Casey Palmer5 said:Low-power lasers shouldn't be used when dealing with tumors, regardless of the type.

I wouldn't even recommend Bioptron; if it's anything more than a placebo, it really shouldn't be applied near a tumor. Besides, any contraindications should be listed right in the device's manual, so you might want to look into that...

There aren't any specific contraindications listed 🙄
Look, I actually worked in sales for this stuff—mostly just because I wanted to buy one after seeing how much it helped my little one, and being a rep meant getting it at 50% off. So, I've done my homework. What I mentioned earlier is the one thing all the reps say and what we were told during training (though I doubt it's explicitly in the user manual): people with tumors simply must not use BIOPTRON.
As I already noted... people usually overlook this, forget it, or just don't listen, because once someone is facing a tumor diagnosis, they'll try absolutely anything to fix it. And a "miracle lamp" sounds pretty damn promising, doesn't it? 🙄

To repeat myself one more time... my mom felt a lump in her breast about the size of a pea. Of course, she didn't want to tell anyone; instead, she frantically turned to "miracle lamps," herbal teas, and things like that. Within three months, that lump had grown to the size of a chicken egg, visible from five feet away through her bra.

I'm afraid it isn't just a placebo; the lamp actually does something... occasionally good things, I suppose. But personally, I'm done risking it, because who knows if there’s something lurking somewhere in my body just waiting...
Michael Anderson10 Michael Anderson10 Member
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joined Dec 2007
#19 ·
Chloe Nguyen3 said:Bryan Murphy84...🙂

I see you've actually used one of those lamps before, so I'm hoping you can give me a heads-up on a few things (even if it's just a rough idea);

My mom is dealing with uterine fibroids and she’s gone down the rabbit hole with all these alternative therapies—including that Zepter lamp.

Following some friend's advice—who supposedly saw her fibroids shrink after using it—she’s started "warming up" with the lamp four times a day for four minutes at a time.
Now she's wondering if hitting it that hard and that often is actually a "smart" move??
What kind of side effects am I looking at here?? Like, from using it that much??

Thanks a ton🙂 👋

It seems pretty foolish to me, honestly. As far as I can tell, Bioptron only works where it is applied—meaning the skin. A Bioptron isn't going to shine a light on a uterus, WTF.
briskranger2 briskranger2 Member
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#20 ·
Michael Anderson10 said:It seems pretty foolish to me, honestly. As far as I can tell, Bioptron only works where it is applied—meaning the skin. A Bioptron isn't going to shine a light on a uterus, WTF.

I don't know. Based on everything I picked up back in school, polarized light penetrates the entire organism.

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