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analogheron78 analogheron78 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Feb 2009
#718 ·
This topic is a bit awkward, but honestly, that’s just the way the world works today. People tell me you'll start dealing with hemorrhoids by the time you're 23, so there's no avoiding it.

I actually felt some anal tearing myself, so I heard that diet can fix it—and they aren't kidding when they say "let food be your medicine."
I started cutting back on dry foods and drinking more fluids. It helped a little, but... there was still that "but."
Then, I attended a healthy eating seminar and saw several people who completely cleared up their hemorrhoids just by changing their diet and eating balanced meals.
In fact, they didn't just fix the hemorrhoids; they also lost a few inches off their hips and around their waistline!

So, speaking as a relatively young guy, I can tell you this: just change your diet and everything will heal in time. Nothing happens overnight. PROVEN.
Sam Williams53 Sam Williams53 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2009
#719 ·
analogheron78 said:It’s a bit of a messy topic, but honestly, that’s just how the world works today... people tell me straight up, "You'll be dealing with hemorrhoids by the time you're 23, so get used to it."

I actually felt some tearing myself once, so I looked into whether diet could fix it (they don't say "let food be thy medicine" for nothing)
I started cutting back on dry foods and drinking more fluids... it helped a little, but... there was still that "but."
Then, I attended a seminar on healthy nutrition and saw several people who had completely cleared up their hemorrhoid issues simply by changing their diet and sticking to balanced meals.
And they didn't just solve the hemorrhoid problem—they also shed a few inches off their hips and waistlines...

So, speaking as someone relatively young here, I can tell you: just change your diet and everything will heal in time. It doesn't happen overnight... PROVEN.

I completely agree that switching to a better, higher-quality diet is a proven way to resolve a whole spectrum of health issues.

There is just one thing to keep in mind regarding hemorrhoids—once they develop, they don't just vanish spontaneously. You might experience more frequent flare-ups or fewer, or even none at all, but hemorrhoids themselves don't just disappear on their own.
Karen Adams2 Karen Adams2 Active Member
55 messages
joined Mar 2010
#720 ·
I’m honestly at a loss as to how I could possibly adjust my diet any further... I’m dealing with some really difficult digestive issues, so I’ve cut out carbohydrates entirely, I drink massive amounts of water, and I load up on fruits and vegetables, but I just don't know what else there is left to change...🤷Well, I suppose it is what it is; if other people have to deal with this, then I guess it's just my reality too. I'm just crossing my fingers that I can keep things under control... if my condition stays about the same as it is right now, everything should turn out fine...
Jessica Grant56 Jessica Grant56 Regular
311 messages
joined Dec 2011
#721 ·
Karen Adams2 said:...Well, it is what it is—what happens to everyone else will probably happen to me too. I just hope I can keep them under control. If things stay exactly as they are right now, I'll be doing just fine.

Don't kid yourself—it could get worse, and new ones tend to pop up over time. It really just comes down to how big they get, whether they shrink back down a bit, and if there's any bleeding involved. Still, please take a look at my previous posts; I've been dealing with this for 20 years without needing surgery, and I'm really hoping I won't have to go that route! Of course, there aren't any set rules—everyone carries this burden differently—but I guess the one small comfort is knowing there are plenty of us out there facing the exact same thing!
analogheron78 analogheron78 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2009
#722 ·
It is a fact that they won't just go away on their own... my neighbor actually had to have surgery because of it. I am not entirely sure what the specific procedure was, since it isn't exactly a pleasant topic of conversation.
I certainly wouldn't want to end up in that situation.
Recently, I have started educating myself more about healthy eating habits—better late than never! I still don't know everything, so I constantly consult my nutritionist regarding what I should eat, or what I can eat to resolve certain issues... and so far, it is working quite well.

If you are unsure how to adjust your diet, find a nutritionist or a dietary consultant. They will definitely be able to help you (mine is free XD)!
stormycanyon2 stormycanyon2 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2009
#723 ·
Eric Chase12 said:I think there should be 7, but I bought the double pack of 14. Aside from the stomach issues—which actually led to bleeding—the second effect after dropping $60 was ZERO. Zilch. Nothing. It's a lie and a total scam. Absolutely zero results. And when I asked about it later, they just gave me some sales pitch about how it works over months... Honestly, maybe my 14 capsules were just filled with flour (who knows what those medical mafias in China are pulling?), or maybe it worked for someone else, but if that's the case, they need to advertise it honestly instead of saying "guaranteed help." It DOES NOT help!!! It DOES NOT work!!!

I wanted to ask you something. I bought a pack of Pilex three months ago, but I haven't even opened it yet. 🙂I deal with hemorrhoid issues too, but only when I have a bowel movement, which usually happens right before bed. Usually, it settles down by morning. I try really hard to stay in control and make sure I don't suddenly have to run to the restroom during the day, because that would automatically trigger problems. It would definitely irritate everything and cause a massive mess. 🙂Now I've read that those pills caused you stomach trouble and bleeding. Can you tell me exactly what happened?
John Parker5 John Parker5 Member
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joined Jul 2009
#724 ·
Has anyone actually taken DETRALEX for a long stretch? I was on them for a bit once, but honestly, right before my surgery, they didn't do squat... there were just too many hemorrhoids piled up for a few pills to make any difference. I'm thinking about starting them up again, but if anyone here has some real experience with these tablets, please let me know.
Karen Adams2 Karen Adams2 Active Member
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joined Mar 2010
#725 ·
Eric Chase12 said:Don’t kid yourself, things might actually get worse as new ones pop up over time. It really just comes down to how large they get, whether they shrink back down at all, and if there's any bleeding involved. Honestly, though, you should go back and read my previous posts; I've been dealing with this for 20 years without ever needing surgery, and I truly hope you won't have to either! Of course, there's no set rule—everyone carries this burden differently—but I suppose the one small comfort is knowing we aren't alone in this struggle!

Oh, come on now, what am I even supposed to do?! I have never had issues with my digestion—everything is perfectly regular—I have NEVER sat on cold surfaces, I've made sure to wash up after every single trip to the Restroom since I was old enough to know better, I eat a healthy diet, and my job requires me to be on my feet walking for 8 hours straight every day... plus I walk regularly and stay active with exercise... So what else on earth could I possibly do???!!!😠I just don't understand it anymore... Does this mean everything I've done is completely useless, along with all those creams I've been using? I am so incredibly frustrated by all of this that it's almost scary; sometimes I feel like stripping down, sitting on a block of frozen concrete, eating nothing but dry crackers, wearing thongs exclusively, and never washing up again... then maybe it would finally make sense why I have these!😢🙂
John Parker5 John Parker5 Member
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joined Jul 2009
#726 ·
Karen Adams2 said:Oh, come ON! What am I even supposed to do?! I have never had issues with my bathroom habits before—everything is regular, I’ve NEVER sat on cold surfaces, I wash up after EVERY single trip to the restroom, I eat healthy, and my job literally requires me to be WALKING for 8 hours straight. I walk, I exercise, I do everything right... So what else do I need to do, kick myself???!!!😠I honestly just don't get it anymore... Like, is all this effort totally pointless? All these creams I'm using—what's the point? I am so incredibly pissed off about this whole thing that it's scary. It makes me want to strip down, sit on a block of frozen concrete, eat nothing but dry crackers, wear thongs exclusively, and just stop washing altogether... then maybe it would finally make sense why I'm dealing with this!😢🙂

Unfortunately, it's happening to you too, and it's happening to me. Not trying to scare you, but you might just be predisposed to this, and honestly, I think you might end up needing surgery eventually. I know it sucks to hear that, and maybe it's not "nice" of me not to offer some sweet comfort, but if you actually hit stage 4, you'll be begging to have them surgically removed. Your entire life starts revolving around this one issue; they basically hold you hostage until you get rid of them. The only other thing you could try is those Detralex tablets... I'm going to start taking them again, so we'll see. We can't lose hope just yet, right?
Karen Adams2 Karen Adams2 Active Member
55 messages
joined Mar 2010
#727 ·
Rachel Wilson24 said:Unfortunately, it sounds like you're dealing with exactly what I went through, and while I don't mean to scare you, it seems like you might be predisposed to this, which often means surgery becomes inevitable eventually... I know it’s probably not what you want to hear, and maybe it isn't kind of me not to offer more comfort, but if things do progress to stage four, you'll find yourself praying for the operation just to get relief... once it reaches that point, your entire life starts revolving around the discomfort; they basically hold you hostage until they can finally remove them... The only other thing you could try is those Detralex tablets... I'm actually about to start taking them again, so we'll see how it goes... We can't lose hope just yet, right?

They say hope is the last thing to die, don't they?😁Believe me, even the thought of what stage four entails terrifies me. For me, the bleeding was so intense that I was actually scared to leave my house; every single time I used the restroom, it was a bloody mess, and by the time I made it to the shower to clean up, there would be a trail of blood left on the tiles behind me—probably two feet long... I lived in constant agony for eight months, and when a flare-up hit me hard last winter, I couldn't even get out of bed or lie on my back for two whole days, let alone sit down... Now, finally, after eight months, I feel like I have some sensation in my "rear end" again😁I've stopped using those suppositories because the instructions say you shouldn't use them for more than a month. Instead, I'm using "hemo-ex," which is some kind of herbal-based oil. As for the Detralex, my doctor suggested trying them; I took them last year, but they didn't seem to do much, though I later found out you're supposed to take them for six months straight, and I only finished three boxes. Honestly, I wouldn't mind the surgery—I know what it's like to be willing to do anything just to get some momentary relief—but I struggle to see the point if they just come back, especially since I'm definitely prone to this... very prone. I finally understand why Americans use the phrase "pain in the ass" to describe someone who is incredibly difficult to deal with...
John Parker5 John Parker5 Member
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joined Jul 2009
#728 ·
Karen Adams2 said:Smart people say there's hope in prayer, but honestly?😁Believe me, I’m terrified even thinking about what stage four looks like. For me, the bleeding was so bad I was scared to even leave the house. Every single time I hit the restroom, everything was just a bloody mess behind me. By the time I finally made it to the tub to clean up, there would be a literal trail of blood left on the tiles—like two feet of it! And the pain? I lived through eight months of pure agony. One winter, it hit me so hard I couldn't get out of bed for two whole days, let alone lie on my back. Don't even get me started on sitting down... Now, after eight months, I can finally say I don't feel my "rear end" anymore.😁I stopped using those suppositories because the label said you shouldn't use them for more than a month. Instead, I'm using some herbal oil called "hemo-ex." As for Detralex, my doctor suggested giving it a shot. I tried it last year, but it didn't do squat. Later, I found out you're supposed to take it for six months straight, and I only finished three boxes. Look, I'm not even against surgery. I know what it's like when you're willing to do anything just to get some relief right now, but I don't see the point if they just come right back—especially since I'm prone to them... really prone. Now I finally understand why Americans call someone who's being difficult a "pain in the ass."

Well, they came back for me too after surgery, though at least I had about a year of peace before they flared up again... and I know exactly what it's like to literally leave bloody trails all over your house. It's a horror show! There were times I'd grab whatever frozen thing I could find in the freezer just to sit on it, hoping it would stop the bleeding... Now, my biggest worry is that I want another baby, and I have no clue how that's going to go down if I don't get surgery again. I'm genuinely terrified I'll bleed out on the table in the delivery room! What am I supposed to do?!🤷
Jessica Grant56 Jessica Grant56 Regular
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joined Dec 2011
#729 ·
stormycanyon2 said:I wanted to ask you—I bought a pack of Pilex three months ago, but I haven't even opened it yet...

Honestly, just search through my old posts and read them—I don't want to type everything out all over again. My old stuff is pretty dated, sure, but when it comes to Pilex? Not a chance. It didn't do a single thing for me except make my stomach act up—I was running to the bathroom every single day and saw zero benefits!! For that kind of money, I was expecting at least *something*, but...

Here’s the short version: you can actually live your whole life with hemorrhoids without ever needing surgery. I mean, maybe you need a little luck, but my personal routine for those internal-external ones (you know, the ones that stay inside until you use the restroom, then pop out!) is this: after using the restroom, use the softest paper you can find—like triple-ply, or even double that—or if water is an option, use a decent cream. Mix in an equal amount of some vein gel (like Vaseline or Nature's Bounty, etc.) and try to push them back in... There are other tricks too, so since I'm already typing: having trouble seeing what's going on back there? Just grab a camera, set it on the floor, aim it at the "target," and use the self-timer! At least then you get a clear look at the enemy. But more importantly: when I compared photos from four years ago to now, they looked exactly the same. If that's the case, it looks like I won't need surgery after all.
Jessica Grant56 Jessica Grant56 Regular
311 messages
joined Dec 2011
#730 ·
Rachel Wilson24 said:..I know exactly what it’s like—literally leaving bloody trails all over the house, it's pure horror! I used to grab whatever was in the freezer just so I could sit on it to try and stop the bleeding..

Is there enough scary stuff being said here?? Honestly, you two seem like the more severe cases, so please don't wait any longer—you likely need surgery, and then you can deal with the recovery later. Even though not many people are posting, the number of sufferers out there is actually huge! Only a lucky few escape without issues. But you both missed all those milder cases, even though everyone eventually deals with that nightmare encounter where it doesn't just leak, but actually sprays! That's probably the absolute worst part—it isn't just oozing, it's pulsing in time with your heartbeat!

Besides the whole ice trick, there's an easier way when it happens while you're in the bathroom: sit on the edge of the tub and use a cold shower spray directly underneath to "cool" things down until it stops. If it goes on too long, you really have no choice but to sit on something hard that provides direct pressure right on the spot—that should help. Of course, the worst thing you can do is just sit on the Restroom seat and wait... It also depends a lot on your blood type, and everyone knows you can tell how bad an injury is by whether the bleeding stops quickly or not.

In any case, there's no room for panic. Even if it looks like everything is swimming in blood, realistically it's smaller amounts—though it feels like we've lost over 7 liters... But, if it lasts too long, here is one more piece of advice: always keep your phone in the Restroom! And if everything starts spinning, call someone with a car to come get you first, or just dial 911.
John Parker5 John Parker5 Member
11 messages
joined Jul 2009
#731 ·
Eric Chase12 said:Are you guys seriously still freaking out?? You two have it way worse than most, so stop stalling—you probably need surgery, and then we'll deal with whatever comes next. Even though not many people are posting here, the number of patients out there is massive! Only a lucky few actually escape without issues. But you two totally skipped over all the milder cases, even though everyone deals with that nightmare encounter where it just sprays! That’s honestly the worst part—it's not even leaking, it’s pulsing in rhythm with your heartbeat!

Look, besides that ice idea, there's a simpler trick when this happens in the bathroom: sit on the edge of the tub and aim a cold shower spray directly at it from underneath to "cool" things down until it stops. If it goes on too long, you won't have much choice but to sit on something hard that puts direct pressure right on the spot; that should help. Of course, the absolute worst thing is just sitting on the toilet waiting... It really depends on your blood type and stuff, and everyone knows how you judge an injury by whether the bleeding quits fast or drags on.

Anyway, don't panic. Even if it looks like you're drowning in blood, in reality, it's usually smaller amounts—though it feels like we've lost over 7 liters or something... But, if it keeps going, here's another tip: always keep your phone in the Restroom! And if things start spinning, call someone with a car to come grab you, or just dial 911.

Oh, there is definitely enough reason to be scared.😉Everything looks twice as terrifying as it actually is... After I went through those bleeds and had my surgery, everything became much more manageable. Everything will be fine, even if this feels like the worst thing that's ever happened to us! A person ends up enduring exactly what they thought would be impossible to survive. Keep your heads up, everyone, fight as hard as you can, and the results will come eventually!👍
Karen Adams2 Karen Adams2 Active Member
55 messages
joined Mar 2010
#732 ·
Rachel Wilson24 said:Oh, absolutely... there is just so much unnecessary fear-mongering going on these days...😉Honestly, everything looks twice as terrifying as it actually is... after those bleeding episodes, I had to undergo surgery, but things have calmed down quite a bit now. Everything is going to be okay, even though that was easily one of the worst experiences we've ever faced in our lives! It’s funny how life works—you end up going through exactly what you thought would be impossible to endure... Just keep your heads up, everyone, and fight as hard as you can, because the results will come eventually... when the time is right...👍

You might want to try drinking some Yarrow tea... personally, it really helped me manage the bleeding...
Karen Adams2 Karen Adams2 Active Member
55 messages
joined Mar 2010
#733 ·
Eric Chase12 said:Is there enough scary stuff being discussed here?? You two are dealing with much more serious cases, and honestly, don't wait any longer—you should probably look into surgery, and then just deal with whatever comes after that. Even though not many people are speaking up, the number of sufferers out there is actually massive! Only a lucky few seem to escape these issues entirely. But you both completely glossed over the milder versions, even though practically everyone eventually faces that dreaded moment when the spray starts! That’s arguably the absolute worst part—it doesn't just leak, it sprays in sync with your heartbeat!

Beyond that idea about using ice, there is a simpler way to handle it when you're stuck in the bathroom: sit on the edge of the tub and let a cold shower stream directly onto the area to "cool it down" until it stops. If it goes on for too long, you won't have much choice but to sit on something firm that provides direct pressure to the spot; that really ought to help. Of course, the absolute worst thing you can do is just sit there on the restroom seat waiting... Still, a lot depends on your blood type and how your body reacts, because everyone knows that once an injury happens, you can tell pretty quickly whether the bleeding settles down fast or not.

In any case, there is absolutely no room for panic, even if it looks like everything is just swimming in blood; realistically, we are talking about smaller amounts, even though it feels like we've lost over seven liters... But, if it persists for too long, here is one more piece of advice: always keep your phone in the Restroom! And if things start spinning out of control, call someone who has a car to come get you immediately, or just dial 911.

Phew, I haven't experienced that specific part yet, the spraying bit,😲and then you go around telling people that I'm the one scaring them!
John Parker5 John Parker5 Member
11 messages
joined Jul 2009
#734 ·
Karen Adams2 said:Try drinking some knotweed tea—it really helped me deal with the bleeding.

And here I was thinking I’d already tried everything—drinking stuff, rubbing stuff, shoving stuff in, stuffing stuff everywhere!😁..thanks, I'll give that a shot too..
Jessica Grant56 Jessica Grant56 Regular
311 messages
joined Dec 2011
#735 ·
Karen Adams2 said:Ugh, that hasn't happened to me yet—you know, the spraying part—😲and then you can tell me I'm scaring people!

Why the "ugh"?? Because it’s always about the SPRAYING!! The real question is whether it's external and if it burst in a way where the stream points downward—in which case you'll see it (and hear it if it hits water!). It's pretty simple physics, really: a tiny little hole formed in a vessel under pressure—and look, the heart isn't just some random little pump, just check a blood pressure monitor!—so every time the heart beats, that pulsing pressure sends out a thin spray... Of course, it all depends on how thick the capillary that caused the hemorrhoid is. And here's the thing: if you find the spot and apply good pressure, the spray stops, and after a little while—once things cool down—everything's fine again! And I'll say it again: I honestly think those vein creams eventually toughen up the vessel walls, shrinking them and reducing the size of the enlarged capillary, which is why they don't burst as often. Maybe once every few months, usually after some heavy lifting or an upset stomach. But, oh, I forgot to mention!!! Those vein creams can sometimes "sting" or hurt a bit (especially at first), but it passes quickly, almost like they have an anesthetic effect... and hey, sometimes you just have to endure a little something!
John Parker5 John Parker5 Member
11 messages
joined Jul 2009
#736 ·
Eric Chase12 said:Why the hell are we talking about UF?? It’s always about the SPRAYING!! The only question is whether it's external and if it burst in a way that the spray points downward—then you can actually see it (and hear it if it hits water!). It’s basic physics: a tiny little hole formed in a vessel under pressure—and look, the heart isn't just some random little pump, check a blood pressure monitor if you don't believe me!—so every time the heart beats, that pulsating pressure sends out a thin spray... Of course, it all depends on how thick the capillary that caused the hemorrhoid was. So here's the deal: find the little hole, press down hard, and the spraying stops, then after a bit of cooling down, everything's fine again! And I'll say it again: I honestly think those vein creams eventually toughen up the vessel walls, shrink them, and reduce the enlarged capillary, which is why they rarely burst! Maybe once every few months, but usually only after heavy lifting or a messed-up stomach. Oh, and I almost forgot!!! Those vein creams can sometimes "bite" and sting (especially at first), but it passes quickly, almost like an anesthetic... and hey, sometimes you just have to suck it up!

Please, just tell me which vein cream you actually know is good? I know there are Detralex tablets for veins too, so maybe I could combine them—taking the pills orally and using the ointment at the same time..
Karen Adams2 Karen Adams2 Active Member
55 messages
joined Mar 2010
#737 ·
I'm planning on picking up some Detralex tomorrow, so we'll just have to wait and see if it actually makes a difference... I'll be sure to check back in here regularly to share my progress and let you all know how it's working for me.😁

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