The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003)
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#102 ·
The site isn't half bad when it comes to reviews
I have less than three hours before the movie starts, and while I'm genuinely curious to see if it hits the mark, I suspect I'll enjoy it simply because I don't tend to dive too deeply into the weeds of nitpicking 🙂 ; I find myself getting worn out by all those tiny technicalities... right now, I'm much more interested in the overall atmosphere and pondering the philosophical undertones, plus, a little extra action never really hurt anyone 😁 , but we'll see, who knows?!
I have less than three hours before the movie starts, and while I'm genuinely curious to see if it hits the mark, I suspect I'll enjoy it simply because I don't tend to dive too deeply into the weeds of nitpicking 🙂 ; I find myself getting worn out by all those tiny technicalities... right now, I'm much more interested in the overall atmosphere and pondering the philosophical undertones, plus, a little extra action never really hurt anyone 😁 , but we'll see, who knows?!
#103 ·
Did anyone catch what's written on the door above the Oracline kitchen? I know it was mentioned back in part one—I just can't recall the exact wording.
Tenet Deum feels a bit too much like...
"know thyself" 😕
#104 ·
I have to admit I wasn't exactly blown away, though I suppose I didn't go in with particularly high expectations... all things considered, I'd give it a solid 3 out of 5.
At certain points during the documentary, the struggle being portrayed felt a bit tedious and draining to sit through.
At certain points during the documentary, the struggle being portrayed felt a bit tedious and draining to sit through.
#105 ·
man, seriously...
now I'm thinking maybe I should've watched Reloaded before this whole revolution kicked off.
I don't know what goes down in the second one, but apparently Oracle isn't even a person, just some AI or computer program or whatever?
it feels stupid asking since I skipped the middle part.........
but yeah, the movie's alright... and honestly, I'm fine with that scene where Trinity dies.
because, if they're flirting through the whole damn sequel (or so I've heard)
and if they're "in love," everyone mentions it every five minutes in the film
so I guess she finally says what she actually feels
instead of something like: kill that motherfucker.
actually, what she said is fine because that's how "love" sounds in a Hollywood blockbuster....
anyway, that's it. No more Matrix for me.
.
now I'm thinking maybe I should've watched Reloaded before this whole revolution kicked off.
I don't know what goes down in the second one, but apparently Oracle isn't even a person, just some AI or computer program or whatever?
it feels stupid asking since I skipped the middle part.........
but yeah, the movie's alright... and honestly, I'm fine with that scene where Trinity dies.
because, if they're flirting through the whole damn sequel (or so I've heard)
and if they're "in love," everyone mentions it every five minutes in the film
so I guess she finally says what she actually feels
instead of something like: kill that motherfucker.
actually, what she said is fine because that's how "love" sounds in a Hollywood blockbuster....
anyway, that's it. No more Matrix for me.
.
#106 ·
damien said:Oh man, guys...
I’m honestly starting to think I really should have sat down and watched Reloaded before this whole revolution started up.
I don't know exactly what happens in the second part, but from what I gather, Oracle isn't actually a person, but some kind of AI or computer program? Or whatever you want to call it...
If you haven't seen Reloaded yet, you are seriously missing out on so much.
#107 ·
Richard Hernandez13 said:If you haven't seen Reloaded yet, you’re seriously missing out on a huge chunk of the story.
Honestly, that’s nothing compared to my luck. I was walking out of the theater with some buddies yesterday and ran into this guy from my old high school class. This absolute genius walks up to me and goes, "Hey, quick rundown—what’s actually going on with Neo and Morpheus?" 😵 Like, how can you be such a total airhead that you show up for the third installment of a trilogy without having seen the first two? 😵
#108 ·
James Cruz6 :
I gotta be honest, I wasn't exactly blown away, though I wasn't exactly holding my breath for greatness either... all things considered, I'd give it a solid 3 out of 5.
There were moments during that fight scene in the documentary where I was just sitting there thinking, "Man, this is dragging." It got pretty tedious.
For me, the only part that actually dragged was when Trin dies... like, seriously, just die already so we can move on with our lives. 😠
But other than that? The movie was absolute FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!
#109 ·
So, who’s your absolute favorite character and what’s the best scene in the movie?
For me, Smith is a total LEGEND!!! 😂 That final scene where he’s just like, "Wait, I know this... I'm standing here supposed to say something... but I can't remember a single damn thing" 😂😂
For me, Smith is a total LEGEND!!! 😂 That final scene where he’s just like, "Wait, I know this... I'm standing here supposed to say something... but I can't remember a single damn thing" 😂😂
#110 ·
The movie’s alright, I guess, but it leaves way too many loose ends hanging in the air.
I mean, honestly, I’m just sitting here scratching my head—why on earth would the machines even agree to a truce? Like, if you’ve got the tech to just wipe out humanity in a heartbeat, why bother with a ceasefire? It makes zero sense from a tactical standpoint. And seriously, did anyone actually die, or was that whole thing just for show?
I mean, honestly, I’m just sitting here scratching my head—why on earth would the machines even agree to a truce? Like, if you’ve got the tech to just wipe out humanity in a heartbeat, why bother with a ceasefire? It makes zero sense from a tactical standpoint. And seriously, did anyone actually die, or was that whole thing just for show?
#111 ·
Honestly, this was easily my biggest Star Wars letdown since the last franchise reboot.
Man.
A total disaster.
Just your run-of-the-mill, basic action flick trying to hawk some cheap, messy religious nonsense.
I was seriously hoping this movie would tie everything together, you know? Like, maybe find some middle ground for all those disagreements from the first two films, or come up with actual logical, smart answers to all those massive questions we were left with after Reloaded. But what did they actually do? They just give us some crisis involving Christ and Neo—played by Will Smith, I guess?—and then they both just head straight to hell, taking my respect and admiration for the original trilogy right along with them.
Go ahead and hunt for things that aren't there if you want. You can try to explain Morpheus, the French guy, the Architect, the Oracle, and everyone else however you like; you can go looking for deep, hidden meanings just like half the internet forums have been doing for the last six months. Sure, you’ll probably find *something*, but there isn't much in this movie besides whatever our overactive imaginations decide to project onto it.
Like someone already said, they had an idea, but they had zero clue how to actually use it.
I've read better endings to the Matrix online that had way more imagination, energy, and symbolism than what I saw at the theater yesterday.
I'm just so disappointed. Look, I'm not a "believer," and I can't just swallow garbage just because it's wrapped in pretty packaging. I value logic, intelligence, and common sense. I don't buy into miracles or god-given saviors.
Maybe that's why I can't "believe" in this movie. There's about as much logic in it as there is in flying bricks.
Man.
A total disaster.
Just your run-of-the-mill, basic action flick trying to hawk some cheap, messy religious nonsense.
I was seriously hoping this movie would tie everything together, you know? Like, maybe find some middle ground for all those disagreements from the first two films, or come up with actual logical, smart answers to all those massive questions we were left with after Reloaded. But what did they actually do? They just give us some crisis involving Christ and Neo—played by Will Smith, I guess?—and then they both just head straight to hell, taking my respect and admiration for the original trilogy right along with them.
Go ahead and hunt for things that aren't there if you want. You can try to explain Morpheus, the French guy, the Architect, the Oracle, and everyone else however you like; you can go looking for deep, hidden meanings just like half the internet forums have been doing for the last six months. Sure, you’ll probably find *something*, but there isn't much in this movie besides whatever our overactive imaginations decide to project onto it.
Like someone already said, they had an idea, but they had zero clue how to actually use it.
I've read better endings to the Matrix online that had way more imagination, energy, and symbolism than what I saw at the theater yesterday.
I'm just so disappointed. Look, I'm not a "believer," and I can't just swallow garbage just because it's wrapped in pretty packaging. I value logic, intelligence, and common sense. I don't buy into miracles or god-given saviors.
Maybe that's why I can't "believe" in this movie. There's about as much logic in it as there is in flying bricks.
#112 ·
Sophia Brown78 said:Like someone else mentioned earlier, they definitely had the concept down, but they just weren't quite sure how to actually execute it.
Honestly, I have this feeling that the whole mess didn't really stem from what was being said, but more from the way it was delivered. It felt like they were trying way too hard to boil everything down into these overly simplified, one-size-fits-all terms just so everyone could follow along—which ended up making them sound incredibly cliché when they could have been nuanced, and somehow totally confusing at the exact moments they should have kept things straightforward. 😢
Oh, and if we're being real, they probably could have gone a little easier on the ego, too.
#113 ·
I really expected more from this. After sitting through the second installment, I was pretty let down, so I held out hope that the third movie would tie everything together. I wanted the whole trilogy to feel cohesive—like you could finally judge the work as a complete piece. Unfortunately, that didn’t happen; there are just too many loose ends left hanging at the end. It feels like the first movie had such a clear vision and theme, only for both those elements to get muddied and lost somewhere in the sequels. It's almost as if the first film was the only one actually trying to be something more than just mindless entertainment. Plus, the pacing is honestly bizarre (though I guess you could argue it's hard to balance the rhythm of three separate films into one experience). Even though it fell short of my expectations, it’s still a decent, fun watch.
#114 ·
I’m honestly just let down. I’ve never been much of a "believer," and I can't bring myself to swallow garbage just because it comes in pretty packaging. My compass is set to logic, intelligence, and common sense. I don't have much use for miracles or divine saviors.
Maybe that’s why I couldn't buy into this movie. It has about as much logic as a flying brick. [/B]
I’m feeling pretty disappointed too, mostly because it left way too many loose ends hanging. I waited six years for some actual answers, and I barely got one—that’s easily the biggest failure of this film. As for the point you made about logic and all that... look, I never went looking for realism in The Matrix. This trilogy falls squarely under the science fiction umbrella, so I judge it by those rules alone. I certainly never expected the sequels to outdo the original—in my experience, that almost never happens anyway. The first Matrix had such an incredibly original concept, and the sequels were supposed to unpack it. Instead, they didn't just fail to clarify things; they made the whole plot even more convoluted. Visually, the special effects are top-tier, and the soundtrack is great, too. Everything is fine on a technical level, but the movie fails its primary mission: providing answers to the questions raised in the first two parts. It just muddied the waters further and threw more dilemmas our way. Maybe they're hoping to squeeze out another sequel one day? 👎 It’s just a shame; it could have been so much better.
Maybe that’s why I couldn't buy into this movie. It has about as much logic as a flying brick. [/B]
I’m feeling pretty disappointed too, mostly because it left way too many loose ends hanging. I waited six years for some actual answers, and I barely got one—that’s easily the biggest failure of this film. As for the point you made about logic and all that... look, I never went looking for realism in The Matrix. This trilogy falls squarely under the science fiction umbrella, so I judge it by those rules alone. I certainly never expected the sequels to outdo the original—in my experience, that almost never happens anyway. The first Matrix had such an incredibly original concept, and the sequels were supposed to unpack it. Instead, they didn't just fail to clarify things; they made the whole plot even more convoluted. Visually, the special effects are top-tier, and the soundtrack is great, too. Everything is fine on a technical level, but the movie fails its primary mission: providing answers to the questions raised in the first two parts. It just muddied the waters further and threw more dilemmas our way. Maybe they're hoping to squeeze out another sequel one day? 👎 It’s just a shame; it could have been so much better.
#115 ·
The Wachowskis absolutely traumatized my childhood.
Well, maybe just for two and a half hours, but I've been dying to get that off my chest.
In *Revolutions*, Trinity looks like an anorexic drag queen with a severe case of anemia.
So, business as usual.
On the bright side, the showdown between the UFOs and the ninjas hit the mark perfectly.
It's a damn shame they cut the scene with the Gospel choir.
Well, maybe just for two and a half hours, but I've been dying to get that off my chest.
In *Revolutions*, Trinity looks like an anorexic drag queen with a severe case of anemia.
So, business as usual.
On the bright side, the showdown between the UFOs and the ninjas hit the mark perfectly.
It's a damn shame they cut the scene with the Gospel choir.
#116 ·
Total letdown!!!
I’m honestly so disappointed... This was supposed to be a phenomenal sci-fi franchise that didn't play naive. Remember how about two years after the first movie dropped, a group of actual scientists said the original script was scientifically plausible? Well, they turned this into some Dragon Ball Z nonsense where characters just blast magic out of their hands... I mean, seriously, what the hell? 😢 It feels like the audience saw way more potential in the story than the Wachowskis did. To me, the idea of a "matrix within a matrix" makes way more sense than the mess we just watched.
The whole point of the film—this deep dive into the Matrix being one possible reality wrapped in philosophy and religious symbolism—got totally lost. By the third installment, it just feels like a cheap Bible retelling set against a sci-fi backdrop. 🤮
Plus, I have to agree with the others: so much was left unexplained that the plot loses all its weight. That underground scene felt completely random, and the forced philosophizing just didn't fit the flow. There were also way too many characters with these tedious little backstories that just killed the movie's pacing. Sadly, it all boiled down to nothing but pretty special effects.
Honestly, I’d rather just wipe my memory, rewatch the first one, and let my imagination do the rest. 🙂
I’m honestly so disappointed... This was supposed to be a phenomenal sci-fi franchise that didn't play naive. Remember how about two years after the first movie dropped, a group of actual scientists said the original script was scientifically plausible? Well, they turned this into some Dragon Ball Z nonsense where characters just blast magic out of their hands... I mean, seriously, what the hell? 😢 It feels like the audience saw way more potential in the story than the Wachowskis did. To me, the idea of a "matrix within a matrix" makes way more sense than the mess we just watched.
The whole point of the film—this deep dive into the Matrix being one possible reality wrapped in philosophy and religious symbolism—got totally lost. By the third installment, it just feels like a cheap Bible retelling set against a sci-fi backdrop. 🤮
Plus, I have to agree with the others: so much was left unexplained that the plot loses all its weight. That underground scene felt completely random, and the forced philosophizing just didn't fit the flow. There were also way too many characters with these tedious little backstories that just killed the movie's pacing. Sadly, it all boiled down to nothing but pretty special effects.
Honestly, I’d rather just wipe my memory, rewatch the first one, and let my imagination do the rest. 🙂
#117 ·
Christian Perez10 says:
It’s such a massive letdown... coming from an incredible sci-fi masterpiece that didn't feel naive at all (just two years after the original dropped, a group of scientists actually claimed the first film's premise was scientifically plausible), ...
There was this article back in the 50s in some scientific journal titled "Brain in a Vat," and that likely served as the blueprint for the script...
....Honestly, why even be surprised by the sequel? It’s obvious even to a kid that this was nothing more than a cash grab... which, unfortunately, worked perfectly. They just have people jumping, flying, and blowing stuff up everywhere... and idiots fall for it, rushing to theaters to watch these commercialized pieces of junk. Dammit, this is what they call a "consumer society"—that's us right there. Just mindless consumers of whatever comes our way.
#118 ·
Honestly, I find most of the criticism to be entirely unnecessary, primarily because this film didn't just shake up the Hollywood landscape—it proved once and for all that human imagination knows no bounds. While I will begrudgingly admit that certain narrative gaps exist, trying to fill them is a futile exercise, as they touch upon those fundamental existential questions that have haunted our civilization since its very inception.
The lion's share of the focus here is understandably placed on the special effects, which have been polished to absolute perfection; frankly, if you’re more interested in cheap, predictable little stories, please feel free to go back to watching some mindless sitcom on Netflix.
For anyone who fails to appreciate or even grasp the sheer magnitude of the director's vision, I suggest you find some lighter, more mindless reading material instead.
PLEASE REFRAIN FROM COMMENTING ON THE FILM IF YOU HAVEN'T ACTUALLY WATCHED IT.
The lion's share of the focus here is understandably placed on the special effects, which have been polished to absolute perfection; frankly, if you’re more interested in cheap, predictable little stories, please feel free to go back to watching some mindless sitcom on Netflix.
For anyone who fails to appreciate or even grasp the sheer magnitude of the director's vision, I suggest you find some lighter, more mindless reading material instead.
PLEASE REFRAIN FROM COMMENTING ON THE FILM IF YOU HAVEN'T ACTUALLY WATCHED IT.
#119 ·
A group of us headed out last night to catch Matrix Revolutions. Honestly? We were all pretty let down. Don't get me wrong, the special effects in the Matrix series are incredible. That first movie blew me away, and the second kept me hooked enough to wonder how it would end, but the third was just a total miss for me. And I'll admit, I really expected Trinity to die.
One more thing. I don't think this is the end of the story, especially since the Oracle said, "We'll see, Neo..." I'm just crossing my fingers that the third Lord of the Rings movie doesn't turn out to be a dud. That's all from me.
One more thing. I don't think this is the end of the story, especially since the Oracle said, "We'll see, Neo..." I'm just crossing my fingers that the third Lord of the Rings movie doesn't turn out to be a dud. That's all from me.
#120 ·
There’s a line from the first Matrix: "I'm going to show them a world without you."
Well, damn. It seems Neo forgot about that line, along with the Wachowskis. Not only did we never see that world, but neither did the billions of people still trapped in the simulation. What was the actual point of those next two sequels? It certainly wasn't liberating humanity from bondage. And here I was, foolishly thinking Neo would actually set them free.
It's a shame that imagination evaporated while they were writing the next two installments.
Your point being? The Matrix has special effects that make it a profound breakthrough worthy of praise, whereas the Ivy League blonde produces nothing but fluid sludge filmed just to rake in a quick buck?
Am I supposed to adore the film just because THEY put in the work?
😂 Which part of the script?
Well, damn. It seems Neo forgot about that line, along with the Wachowskis. Not only did we never see that world, but neither did the billions of people still trapped in the simulation. What was the actual point of those next two sequels? It certainly wasn't liberating humanity from bondage. And here I was, foolishly thinking Neo would actually set them free.
amberjackal49 said:I think criticism is pointless because the film didn't just revolutionize the industry; it proved that imagination has no limits.
It's a shame that imagination evaporated while they were writing the next two installments.
The film focuses heavily on special effects that were perfected, and if anyone wants cheap little stories, they can stick to some Ivy League blonde's fluff.
Your point being? The Matrix has special effects that make it a profound breakthrough worthy of praise, whereas the Ivy League blonde produces nothing but fluid sludge filmed just to rake in a quick buck?
For everyone who doesn't appreciate or understand the director's effort, go find some lighter reading.
Am I supposed to adore the film just because THEY put in the work?
Christian Perez10 said:About two years after the first film, a group of scientists said the original script was actually feasible in reality.
😂 Which part of the script?
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