So, does being vegan automatically make you a cult member?

I remember once having a conversation with a certain prominent lady about nutrition—you know, the usual talk about how expensive everything has become and what’s actually good for us, especially nowadays when so much food seems contaminated and there are all these different illnesses going around. I suggested to her that a plant-based diet is really what's best for humans, especially since our bodies seem built for it if you look at things like jaw structure and digestive systems. It's even been scientifically suggested that humans are meant to be vegan and that ninety percent of modern ailments stem from poor dietary choices.

There's an old proverb that says: "A man digs his own grave with his own teeth." 😢

It sounds a bit paradoxical, I suppose, but it’s likely true.

Anyway, back to my chat with this lady. After I shared those points, she completely lost it—she practically puffed up like a turkey and insisted that eating pork and meat is perfectly healthy! For a second, she just stared at me and asked, "Are you part of some cult or something!?!?"
I told her, "No, ma'am!" She just turned around and walked away...

People eat pigs, but the pigs are slowly eating them too!!! 😁 😢 🙄

Studying the Word, I’ve come to realize that all those sacrifices mentioned morning and night—you know, like all the lambs described in the New York City--it seems to me they were just shadows... a foreshadowing of the ultimate Sacrifice made for all fallen humanity. That is Christ. So, once that Sacrifice was made, there really isn't a need for eating meat anymore.

But what about what you mentioned regarding whether it's actually GOOD and HEALTHY to eat pork???

Thanks for getting back to me... 🙂

Is it healthy? Well, within the context of a balanced diet, it’s much like most other things. When it comes to meat, pork is fundamentally the best option for humans—mostly because pigs, much like us, are social creatures. Personally, I will always choose local lard over some genetically modified soy any day of the week.
If someone claims to be a vegan, as you suggested, then why is it that certain animal-based amino acids remain absolutely essential for fetal development?
Besides, you don't need to join some cult just because you don't eat pork. You can simply dislike it—much like how I can't stand kale.

mellowwalker22 said:Look, regardless of what you say—is eating pork actually GOOD and HEALTHY???

Not for me—I've got gallstones, so skip it.😁
Still don't see how pork connects to some cult, though.😁 🙄

Is eating cookies actually good for you? Is snacking on crazy cows healthy? How about chips? Or... you know, whatever else is out there.

It’s not just about what's on the plate—it's about how you eat it. People forget that part all the time.

Humans have been eating meat for centuries, so our bodies seem pretty much wired for it. And don't even get me started on the amount of antibiotics, hormones, viruses, and bacteria we end up consuming nowadays—that's a whole other conversation. Personally, I cut pork out of my diet because it just wasn't sitting right with me. That said, I still have a major weakness for things like sausages, ham, and bacon. For a while, I tried living on soy, but eventually, I couldn't even look at it without feeling nauseous!

That’s exactly how my mother always saw it too. She was all about those Eastern cults, like Krishna. That’s why she keeps it quiet when I tell her I don't eat that stuff either😎.

You're definitely part of a cult; you're just playing dumb to throw the rest of us off the scent. 🙄
I have absolutely no interest in joining your little group. No way, Joseph... 🙂 🙂

Look, I’m not Muslim, but I haven't touched a piece of pork in about 27 years. 😁 Basically, ever since I figured out how to say "no thanks" followed by a giant "bleh!" 😁

I just find pork disgusting. Forgive me, but the whole thing—the meat, the smell—it’s all just revolting to me, no matter how you cook it. 😁

stormynomad602 said:Humans have been eating meat for centuries. It seems like our bodies are just built for it. And honestly, all the antibiotics, hormones, viruses, and bacteria we're consuming now—well, that’s probably a whole different conversation altogether.

Just because people have been making mistakes for centuries doesn't mean those mistakes are actually good, I guess.

I personally cut pork out of my diet because it just doesn't sit right with me. But I still find myself preferring things like sausages, ham, and bacon.

😕 🙄 😕 So, I suppose sausages, ham, and bacon are basically made of plastic now, right?

Robin Collins5 said:Well, eating it is perfectly fine as part of a healthy, balanced diet, just like most other things. When it comes to meat, pork is actually quite good for us because pigs, much like humans, are social creatures. Personally, I’ll take local lard over genetically modified soy any day of the week.
If someone is a vegan, as you claim, then why are certain animal-based amino acids supposedly necessary for fetal development?
You don't have to be part of some cult just because you don't eat pork. You can simply not like it—it's like how I feel about kale, for instance.

I guess I haven't read anything more nonsensical on this thread. And regarding amino acids, I believe you can find everything you need in plant-based sources.

mellowwalker22 said:As for amino acids, you can find all of them in plants too.

So you're telling me every single amino acid needed for a body to actually grow properly is just sitting there in plants—aka plant-based food??? And we don't even need animal-based proteins??? Interesting...

It's pretty common knowledge that kids shouldn't be raised on a strictly vegan diet—mostly because they need those animal-sourced proteins (which provide the amino acids) to actually grow up right.

Andrew Anderson6 said:It’s generally understood that children who are still developing shouldn't rely solely on a vegan diet. This is mainly because they need those animal-based proteins—which provide essential amino acids—to ensure healthy growth and physical development.

Don't tell me then—if that were strictly true, wouldn't populations in tropical regions who live exclusively on plant-based diets have gone extinct ages ago? 😲 Yet, I guess you could argue some of them are actually among the healthiest and most resilient people on Earth. It’s funny how that works...

mellowwalker22 said:Regarding amino acids—well, they find those in plant sources too.

Honestly, I can't think of anything more nonsensical than that statement. 🙄

How on earth do you expect "animal" amino acids to exist in plants? It's a fundamental biological error. And as for the fetal development argument—I didn't just pick that up from some obscure corner of the internet; I heard it during my time at medical school. Yes, certain nutrients are vital for fetal growth, absolutely, but that doesn't mean a child won't be born if you miss a specific requirement.

mellowwalker22 said:...And honestly, science has already settled the debate: humans are fundamentally vegan.

Where on earth is this coming from? The guy falls squarely into the omnivore category—not some strict vegan, and certainly not a carnivore. He needs both meat and plants to get by.

Just another pointless argument🙄

I don't eat meat regularly because honestly, just the thought of it makes my stomach turn; it’s one of those things you can just avoid if you have the choice.
But I wouldn't go betting my life that cutting it out entirely is the absolute peak of health. In my view, it’s probably better to just have some chicken or something similar once or twice a week.
I mean, damn, if eating meat were actually the ultimate key to health, we’d all be cannibals by now, wouldn't we?
I’ve noticed myself, for instance, that I catch colds much less often than I used to. Though, I suspect a huge part of that is because I’ve drifted into this sedentary lifestyle, spending way too much time glued to a computer screen, which—from my own experience—is terrible for your system.
Then there's the modern availability of supplements—things like probiotics, algae, and whatnot—that can replenish whatever nutrients you might be missing. We likely have plants with similar properties right here in the States, though I couldn't tell you which ones. If someone sticks to a traditional diet but simply cuts out meat, I’m not entirely convinced it’s necessarily a win for their health.
(That said, the truth remains that despite all this, I get sick incredibly rarely—much less often than before. My only trips to the doctor are for actual physical injuries).

A friend of mine has a son who started running into issues because of a vegetarian diet. The father was weighing his options, considering just giving him meat anyway, but before doing anything, he went to consult a woman who specializes in that kind of nutrition. After that, everything with the kid seemed fine, even though I think he still avoids meat (except for those times he visits his aunt and she sneaks him little bits of food just so his poor stomach doesn't suffer)😁. He never actually asked what they did to adjust his diet 😢.

No thanks, I don't touch turkey. There is nothing more revolting than poultry.🙂

Michael Cox40 said:Where is this even coming from? Humans are omnivores, not just plant-eaters or meat-eaters. We need both protein and plants to function properly.

Not quite!!!

A person can be vegan, they don't have to be an omnivore.

People just make up this whole "humans are omnivores" thing to justify eating meat.

Like that old saying goes: "The body doesn't crave meat; it's just the bad spirit inside driving the bus"!!!

And here comes another cultist 🙂 🙂
When it comes to amino acids, honestly, that’s not some silly argument—they're everywhere in plants and things like spirulina.
I’ve been vegan for six years now. I gave birth to an incredibly strong, healthy boy, and I didn't touch meat at all during my pregnancy.
As for the idea that kids shouldn't follow a vegetarian diet while they're growing, I think that's complete nonsense. It’s all about how you balance your nutrition. You just need enough veggies, plenty of legumes, grains, and algae. Of course, you have to tweak those ratios specifically for a child, since they need much higher quantities than an adult would.