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So, does being vegan automatically make you a cult member?

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mellowwalker22 mellowwalker22 MemberOP
15 messages
joined Apr 2003
#21 ·
Jesse Sanders5 said:Not at all!

The person is vegan, not some sort of universalist.

I guess people just make up that joke about humans being universalists to justify eating meat.

As an old wise saying goes: "The craving for meat isn't driven by the body, but by the wicked spirit dwelling within it"!!!

👍

It’s actually scientifically proven—humans are meant to be vegan!!!!🙂
Edward Scott8 Edward Scott8 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2003
#22 ·
Michael Cox40 said:Where is this coming from? Humans fall somewhere in the middle of the spectrum between omnivores and herbivores, not carnivores. We really need a balance of both meat and plant-based foods.

Michael Cox40
you’re honestly looking at this all wrong!
It's amazing how much damage a little bit of misinformation can actually do!

The truth is, humans aren't built to be carnivores; we are naturally herbivorous at our core, and the fact that we eventually started gravitating toward consuming animal flesh is really just a reflection of a conscious choice to live in an impure, unhealthy way. 😢

Thankfully, there are still plenty of people out there who haven't fallen for this obsession regarding how "essential" meat is to our survival....

If only more people would stop for a second and truly consider how devastating something like lard can be for your brain function...
..not to even mention the impact on overall health 😲 🙄
Edward Scott8 Edward Scott8 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2003
#23 ·
Andrew Anderson6 said:Are you trying to tell me that all the amino acids required for a body to develop normally can actually be found in plants, or specifically plant-based food???


Absolutely!!! 😛

You can find them in just about any meat-free meal out there!! 🙂

JUST SO YOU KNOW... there's even progress being made with amino acids in brewer's yeast! 😉

And what about proteins from animal sources too??? Interesting...

And who exactly told you that humans even need proteins from animal sources in the first place?? 😕
-Maybe it's those "meat-loving" doctors talking?? 😁
Steven Price Steven Price Newcomer
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joined May 2003
#24 ·
this guy's basically a UN official
but he started out as a total vegan
only to end up as this super meat-heavy eater with his own little squad of vegetarians 😁

what was the author actually getting at here? 😁
eh, you guys are smart—you'll probably figure it out...
Edward Scott8 Edward Scott8 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2003
#25 ·
Steven Price said:man is a universalist

Well, if we're all supposedly embracing everything under the sun, why wouldn't it be perfectly fine for someone to just go ahead and swallow some nitrous acid? I mean, if we're truly playing by those universalist rules, shouldn't that be on the table too? 😁
Edward Scott8 Edward Scott8 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2003
#26 ·
Steven Price said:The guy is basically a walking United Nations convention
but he started out as a total vegan
only to end up as an overindulgent meat-eater who keeps a small group of vegetarians around just for show. 😁

.. essentially ending up by suffocating himself under layers of fat and grime, plagued by illness and the sheer nastiness of those "essential" animal products. 🙄 👎
Steven Price Steven Price Newcomer
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#27 ·
No way I would've passed up that lamb on the drive down to the coast—honestly, I almost choked because it was just so good...
🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏
Sean Doyle Sean Doyle Member
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joined Dec 2002
#28 ·
Edward Scott8 said:Well, if he’s supposedly part of the United Nations, why wouldn't it be okay for him to just swallow some nitrous acid? I mean... since he's basically one with everything, right?😁

Oh, give me a break 🙄

So, by that logic, why don't you just snack on some cacti or maybe some oleander? Since you're such a dedicated plant-lover, right?🙄
Ronald Miller Ronald Miller Newcomer
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joined Apr 2003
#29 ·
mellowwalker22 said:So, what about you? Is eating pork actually GOOD and HEALTHY???

Thanks for the reply... 🙂

Yes. Pork is great meat, provided you actually know how to cook it properly.
stormynomad602 stormynomad602 Member
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joined Jan 2004
#30 ·
I don't touch pork because it smells kinda funky to me, like someone else mentioned... I'm all about fish instead.😁 😁 Plus, man, it just tastes way better than some greasy pig meat.🙂
hollowmaker242 hollowmaker242 Newcomer
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joined Apr 2004
#31 ·
It’s obvious that humans are actually vegan. Just look at the facts: we have two stomachs, we chew our food constantly, and our teeth are basically built just like a sheep's. It doesn't matter that scientists (those meat-eating types) try to convince us otherwise by pointing at chimpanzees. In reality, our true relatives are horses. Shouldn't we all start greeting each other with a friendly "hey there, horse"?
Everyone should be free to eat whatever they want, as long as you don't act like an idiot about it.👎
Laura Green8 Laura Green8 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2003
#32 ·
It honestly drives me nuts when my relatives—even just second cousins—invite me over for lunch, and of course, there’s always some massive spread of meat on the table. I really don't eat meat, especially not pork or anything like that. And then, the second you mention you're skipping the meat, they snap at you: "Oh, so you're a vegetarian now?!" As if that's some kind of insult, when people are out here trying to eat healthy! It turns the whole meal into this awkward scene...
Or, like that one time my father-in-law and aunt dragged me out to a restaurant, and I was hoping for some veggie specialties, only for them to give me this "diplomatic" look and say, "Well, just because you don't eat meat doesn't mean you aren't going to eat *something*, since we brought you out to dinner."
Fuck, I won't even touch a salad after nine o'clock, let alone meat.
I guess I just don't understand why it's so hard for people to accept. I just don't like it, and I'm not a fan of soda or stuff like that either.
Michael Cox40 Michael Cox40 Member
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joined Mar 2003
#33 ·
Wait, so you're a vegan now too?! As if there's anything wrong with that. People eat healthy for a reason!!!

Not necessarily. Being vegan doesn't automatically mean you're eating healthy, just like eating meat doesn't mean you're living on junk food.

Let people eat whatever they want and just stop talking trash.

👍
Robert Evans Robert Evans Newcomer
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joined Dec 2004
#34 ·
The pig is leading 😉

I used to know this guy who was a strict vegan before he finally tied the knot,
(you know the type—won't touch meat, yet somehow still wears leather shoes,)
and honestly, he was just this pale, sickly-looking, scrawny dude...
but then love hit him, he started eating meat again, filled out, and suddenly
he had the complexion of a high-end fashion model...................

Now I’m sitting here wondering what the problem is?????????????

(Moderation in food and drink, I suppose.) 😎
Sean Doyle Sean Doyle Member
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joined Dec 2002
#35 ·
Robert Evans said:I once knew this guy—back before he finally tied the knot—who claimed to be a total vegan,
(you know, the whole "no meat" routine, yet he’d still rock leather boots,)

Honestly, I’ve run into plenty of people like that. 🙄

They’re all against meat, against leather, against everything... right up until winter hits. Then, suddenly, they’re back in their leather shoes because, well, it gets cold. 🙂
Michelle Alvarez8 Michelle Alvarez8 Regular
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joined Nov 2015
#36 ·
mellowwalker22 said:... And I told her that plant-based food is really what’s best for us—I mean, just look at how the human body is built, from our digestive organs to our jaw structure and intestines... [/i]

Hold on a second—what, do you have four stomachs like a cow or some crazy digestive tract? 😲 What kind of nonsense is that? If that were true, we'd have molars like cattle, but we don't... and if humans were carnivores or predators, you could tell just by where our eyes are positioned...
Michelle Alvarez8 Michelle Alvarez8 Regular
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joined Nov 2015
#37 ·
mellowwalker22 said:But what about what you said—is eating pork actually GOOD and HEALTHY???
Thanks for getting back to me... 🙂

Well, it really depends on how you cook it...
like, ham is totally fine 👍 👍
ribs are alright too... maybe some bacon with roasted potatoes? 👍
honestly, nothing beats a good roast pork shoulder on a spit 🙏

I'll ask again if I have to! 🙂
William Scott40 William Scott40 Member
19 messages
joined Dec 2002
#38 ·
I was once chatting with a well-known lady about nutrition—you know, how everything is getting so expensive and what's actually good for you, especially since so much food feels contaminated these days and all those health issues are popping up. It's the usual stuff. I mentioned to her that sticking to plant-based foods might be best for us, especially considering how the human digestive system is basically built for it.

I heard somewhere that strict vegans, the ones who avoid any animal-derived amino acids entirely, end up dying within three years, so I guess if you want to take that risk, go ahead. 😉
Laura Green8 Laura Green8 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2003
#39 ·
That’s just nonsense! I actually know someone who hasn't touched meat in fifteen years, and they're doing absolutely fine—healthy as can be. They don't even use salt on their food.
Michael Bishop82 Michael Bishop82 Newcomer
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joined Apr 2003
#40 ·
Michael Cox40 said:Just because someone identifies as vegan doesn't mean they're automatically eating healthy—and just as importantly, skipping meat doesn't guarantee you're doing your body any favors.

👍

I’m right there with you. Honestly, I feel like the whole conversation around nutrition gets way too simplified by focusing on this "meat vs. no meat" binary.
If you have a balanced diet—you know, the kind built on a foundation of whole grains, then legumes, veggies, fruit, and all that good stuff—it really doesn't matter if there's meat on the plate or not. On the flip side, if your diet is poor to begin with, cutting out meat isn't going to be some magic fix; if you aren't fueling yourself with high-quality ingredients, the presence or absence of animal protein won't make much of a difference. It feels like we put way too much weight on meat itself rather than looking at the bigger picture. 🙂

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