So, does being vegan automatically make you a cult member?

Robert Evans said:I used to know this guy who was strictly vegan back before he ended up getting married.
It’s kind of funny, isn't it? They claim to be vegan, yet there they are, rocking a pair of leather boots.
Yeah, he was pretty pale and thin, too... just sort of scrawny.
Then love finally got the better of him. He started eating meat again, and honestly, he ended up with a great physique.
That complexion you see on models... it's just something else, isn't it?

Now I'm just sitting here wondering... what exactly went wrong? Honestly, I'm at a loss.

The real problem is that by the time you hit 70, you're barely able to walk and you're dealing with a mountain of health issues. People love to brush it off, saying, "Oh, that's just what happens when you get old," but honestly? That’s total nonsense. Most of that is just the direct result of the choices you made throughout your life—including what you put on your plate. It really makes you wonder if people even have a basic understanding of what actual nutrition looks like. 🙂 ).

I probably wouldn't look so washed out if I actually ate a balanced diet on a regular schedule... and maybe if my surroundings were a bit more supportive. Constant, senseless opposition can be incredibly draining, you know?

Sean Doyle said:I know a few people like that too. 🙄

I’m all for being against meat and leather—totally get the sentiment—right up until winter hits. Then suddenly, everyone is out there walking around in leather boots. 🙂

I honestly don't get what everyone's suddenly got against people wearing leather shoes. What’s the deal now? Are we supposed to be strictly vegan, and if we aren't, are people going to judge us just for breathing? Even though I don't personally wear anything made from animals... still, everyone really needs to mind their own damn business.

William Scott40 said:I heard somewhere that strict vegans—those folks who don't touch any amino acids from animal sources at all—basically drop dead within three years. I mean, if that's true, well, you do what you want, I guess. 😉

I heard through the grapevine that you're actually pretty dim-witted and that you're headed for the grave in three years, no matter what you try to do. There's just no saving you... :kill:

Honestly, I’m all for people eating whatever they want... at the end of the day, they’re the ones dealing with the fallout...

For what it's worth, I don't touch pork, lamb, or beef in their raw, basic forms.

But I'll grab some prosciutto because it's damn good, plain and simple.

The rest? Hardly ever... canned meat, processed stuff, hot dogs (which are basically just different types of thickening chemicals 🙂).

That said, I won't go out of my way to avoid genuine delicacies like veal 🙂, prosciutto, or salmon. Fish is a non-starter for avoidance because the flavor is just... hmmm, incredibly good.

I have nothing against vegetarians or those variations. I actually have a friend who is one of those "hardcore" vegans—you know, won't eat anything that once had a mother 🙂—and that's perfectly fine by me...

People also tend to forget that generalizations are a mistake here. Every body is different... from a biochemical standpoint. For one person, being veggie works; for someone else, it doesn't. It's just how it is.

Charles Young, don't get me wrong, but I've always found those United Nations types fascinating—the ones who feel a desperate need to lecture me at length about exactly which meats they do or don't touch. Why the sudden urge to explain?😕

It’s almost as if she was searching for some kind of justification, only to end up tripping over her own words.

Whenever I ask someone in RL why they felt compelled to recite their entire grocery list to me, they just stare back with that classic look of here we go again with the twisted questions 😛

Honestly, the way some vegans act is just exhausting—it’s actually insane. It’s like dealing with Jehovah's Witnesses; you all seem obsessed with convincing everyone else that they're wrong and that your way is the only right way. Well, newsflash: it isn't. Animals exist to be eaten.🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

Because, honestly, if you (or any other vegan out there) think you’re qualified to lecture me on the superior way to preserve green beans versus soybeans... well, then I guess I can talk about the perfect way to slice a ribeye or how long a roast needs to sit in a slow cooker.

I really don't get why someone like you feels the need to broadcast your entire meal plan to the world?

It's all the same, isn't it?

Go ahead, feel free to post your little tips on when to pick lettuce from the garden...
And I’ll be over here figuring out the best time to put a brisket in the smoker after the butcher finishes up, once the stress levels have settled... 🙂

Look, philosophy is one thing, but blatant discrimination is quite another.

You might find meat repulsive, sure, but I find it just as incomprehensible that you can pass up world-class delicacies.
So, you head to the farmers market, and I'll stick to the butcher shop... say whatever you want.

Look, I don't see any reason to list everything on my plate 🙂 I wasn't attacking you; there's no need to get defensive immediately.

I’m fairly certain if you’d put even a modicum of effort into searching through the forums, you would have found where you listed 🙂
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I’m not attacking you... we’re just having a discussion.

I challenge you to try. You might just end up finding things I don't eat—which is only three items, hardly a long list compared to 🎉
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People make such a massive fuss over when they should probably stop and ask how or why...

mellowwalker22 said:👍

It’s actually been scientifically proven—humans are fundamentally vegan, I suppose.🙂

And then there's the groundhog...

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mellowwalker22 said:👍

It’s actually been scientifically proven—though I suppose one could argue about the nuances—that humans are fundamentally vegan.🙂

I'm curious where you even found that nonsense, honestly. Is there an actual scientific study out there somewhere to back it up, or does such a thing even exist?

I suppose there might be some scientific consensus suggesting that pigs are actually vegan? And what about lions? Or tigers, perhaps?

It’s honestly quite remarkable how much modern science can achieve these days; I suppose it truly does feel like they're performing miracles. 🙂

Sean Doyle:
Oh, come on, 🙄

If you're such a massive plant enthusiast, I guess you should probably be snacking on cacti or oleander instead, right? 🙄

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Shanti said:Well, here comes another cultist, I suppose.🙂 🙂
As far as amino acids go, it really isn't some foolish notion; they are present in plants and spirulina too.
I’ve been vegan for six years, and I actually gave birth to a remarkably strong, large boy, even though I didn't eat any meat during my pregnancy.
Regarding the idea that developing children shouldn't follow a vegetarian diet—it seems to me like complete nonsense; the crucial part is simply balancing the nutrition correctly, you know, ensuring plenty of vegetables, legumes, grains, and algae, though I suppose one would need to adjust those ratios specifically for a child, since they likely require larger quantities than an adult might.

Did you happen to count the little one's toes?😛

You’re really going to grill me about my diet? Honestly, I can't be bothered... I didn't even write out a full list, just a few things I typically eat...

I don't see what the big deal is.....😢