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Participants placidorca16Peter Phillips32Alex Barnes8slycrane94Amanda DiazSophia Thomas7Michelle Alvarez8Daniel Ward87Henry Cox78dustyranger64Casey BennettGeorge Sanders37brightpumaferalpilot0Sean Cook2brightcrane56Charles Wells71Nicholas Kinghiddeneagle3Maria Reyes4Susan Price30Kyle WardChloe Lewis4Michelle Evans …
placidorca16 placidorca16 Active MemberOP
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#41 ·
Sophia Thomas7 said:Nice little edit there.

But what about that point Michelle Alvarez8 made—about whether you're actually doing the exact same thing? 😬

That’s not even the same thing—easy to argue when you look at it that way. Women give birth, men don't. So, I guess that makes it an "ability"—more, not less, than men. Men can't even be compared to women in that department. The fact that women have the ability to reproduce is pretty much obvious to everyone.

On the flip side, this thread is all about claiming women have "lower" intelligence or other abilities compared to men—some users call these "facts," though they aren't facts at all because they just aren't true. Any differences found in intelligence aren't statistically significant, and there's actually a tiny spread for men in both the positive and negative directions. Basically, if there are smarter men out there, there are just as many idiots out there too... but hey, that's not "significant." Also, there’s more variation in intelligence within each gender group than there is between them, but nobody ever mentions that as being important, even though it actually is.
Then there's the whole thing about how women get belittled at every turn in these posts—which seems to be considered "normal" on this forum—but unfortunately, it just highlights one other reality: the kind of sexist society we live in.
George Sanders37 George Sanders37 Active Member
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#42 ·
How are we supposed to be equals if you have the ability to have children and we don't?🤷
Michelle Alvarez8 Michelle Alvarez8 Regular
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#43 ·
placidorca16 said:That’s not even the same thing—easy to argue when you look at it that way. Women give birth, men don't. So, I guess that makes it an "ability"—more, not less, than men. Men can't even be compared to women in that department. The fact that women have the ability to reproduce is pretty much obvious to everyone.

On the flip side, this thread is all about claiming women have "lower" intelligence or other abilities compared to men—some users call these "facts," though they aren't facts at all because they just aren't true. Any differences found in intelligence aren't statistically significant, and there's actually a tiny spread for men in both the positive and negative directions. Basically, if there are smarter men out there, there are just as many idiots out there too... but hey, that's not "significant." Also, there’s more variation in intelligence within each gender group than there is between them, but nobody ever mentions that as being important, even though it actually is.
Then there's the whole thing about how women get belittled at every turn in these posts—which seems to be considered "normal" on this forum—but unfortunately, it just highlights one other reality: the kind of sexist society we live in.

I get that, but the thing is—you weren't even thinking about this when you wrote your original post. 😉
placidorca16 placidorca16 Active MemberOP
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#44 ·
Michelle Alvarez8 said:I get that, but the thing is—you weren't even thinking about this when you wrote your original post. 😉

Oh, really?😕 So now you're an expert on my thoughts too? 😲 Just when I thought things couldn't get weirder—you actually think you're entitled to tell me what I meant. 🙄 No comment.
Sophia Thomas7 Sophia Thomas7 Active Member
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#45 ·
placidorca16 said:That’s not even the same thing—easy to argue when you look at it that way. Women give birth, men don't. So, I guess that makes it an "ability"—more, not less, than men. Men can't even be compared to women in that department. The fact that women have the ability to reproduce is pretty much obvious to everyone.

On the flip side, this thread is all about claiming women have "lower" intelligence or other abilities compared to men—some users call these "facts," though they aren't facts at all because they just aren't true. Any differences found in intelligence aren't statistically significant, and there's actually a tiny spread for men in both the positive and negative directions. Basically, if there are smarter men out there, there are just as many idiots out there too... but hey, that's not "significant." Also, there’s more variation in intelligence within each gender group than there is between them, but nobody ever mentions that as being important, even though it actually is.
Then there's the whole thing about how women get belittled at every turn in these posts—which seems to be considered "normal" on this forum—but unfortunately, it just highlights one other reality: the kind of sexist society we live in.

Your post doesn't make that obvious at all. If I'm being blunt—it feels like a cheap reach because you felt called out.

Why did you go back and edit your original post? 🍿
placidorca16 placidorca16 Active MemberOP
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#46 ·
George Sanders37 said:How are we supposed to be equals if you have the ability to have children and we don't?🤷

Look, equality isn't about pretending biological differences don't exist—that’s impossible. It’s more about ensuring those differences aren't used to justify social hierarchies where men end up on top and women get sidelined just because they can bear children—which, let's face it, happens all too often. It's honestly absurd that female biology is so frequently devalued when it’s literally what keeps the entire human race going.
placidorca16 placidorca16 Active MemberOP
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#47 ·
Sophia Thomas7 said:Your post doesn't make that obvious at all. If I'm being blunt—it feels like a cheap reach because you felt called out.

Why did you go back and edit your original post? 🍿

And what am I supposed to say to that? If it isn't obvious to you or Michelle Alvarez8, then that’s on you... Why would I bother worrying about it?

Why did you edit your opening post? 🍿

What opening post?
Sophia Thomas7 Sophia Thomas7 Active Member
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#48 ·
placidorca16 said:And what am I supposed to say to that? If it isn't obvious to you or Michelle Alvarez8, then that’s on you... Why would I bother worrying about it?

Why did you edit your opening post? 🍿

What opening post?

It's because you're acting just like everyone else in this thread. You're doing the exact same thing.

placidorca16 said:And what am I supposed to say to that? If it isn't obvious to you or Michelle Alvarez8, then that’s on you... Why would I bother worrying about it?

Why did you edit your opening post? 🍿

What opening post?

Well, looking at your opening post, it seems pretty well-written and polished enough to me.
Michelle Alvarez8 Michelle Alvarez8 Regular
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#49 ·
placidorca16 said:Oh, really?😕 So now you're an expert on my thoughts too? 😲 Just when I thought things couldn't get weirder—you actually think you're entitled to tell me what I meant. 🙄 No comment.

Look, I don't need psychic powers to understand what's right in front of me. But hey, apparently, basic reading comprehension is pure science fiction to some people, isn't it?
Amanda Diaz Amanda Diaz Active Member
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#50 ·
Sophia Thomas7 said:It's because you're acting just like everyone else in this thread. You're doing the exact same thing.

Well, looking at your opening post, it seems pretty well-written and polished enough to me.

And that’s how we get to the core of modern feminism. It used to be a legitimate movement, but now? Now it’s just a tool used to label anyone who thinks even slightly differently from what these self-proclaimed feminists dictate as "backward." Honestly, it’s not much different from how Jews handle accusations of antisemitism...
placidorca16 placidorca16 Active MemberOP
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#51 ·
Sophia Thomas7 said:It's because you're acting just like everyone else in this thread. You're doing the exact same thing.

Well, looking at your opening post, it seems pretty well-written and polished enough to me.

So, in your world, is saying women have unique biological capabilities—like giving birth, which is a fact—just as wrong as claiming women aren't as intelligent as men? Because one's true and the other's a lie.😲

I see your original post has been edited a bit; looks pretty polished now.

I haven't actually "edited" anything since I started this thread—there was just a minor technical glitch right at the start that I had to fix immediately. Nothing major.
Sophia Thomas7 Sophia Thomas7 Active Member
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#52 ·
placidorca16 said:So, in your world, is saying women have unique biological capabilities—like giving birth, which is a fact—just as wrong as claiming women aren't as intelligent as men? Because one's true and the other's a lie.😲

I see your original post has been edited a bit; looks pretty polished now.

I haven't actually "edited" anything since I started this thread—there was just a minor technical glitch right at the start that I had to fix immediately. Nothing major.

Once again, I'm going to say it, and I’ll be quoting someone directly this time:

I honestly don't know how people can live like this. It’s genuinely baffling. You look at what’s happening, you see the direction everything is heading, and you just have to wonder if anyone is actually paying attention. It feels like we're all just sleepwalking into a mess that nobody wants to take responsibility for. It’s one thing to disagree on certain ideas, but it's another thing entirely to watch the foundations of our society get chipped away while everyone pretends nothing is wrong. I’m sitting here trying to make sense of it all, and frankly, I’m coming up empty. It’s exhausting.

It’s nowhere to be found in the text—it doesn't mention anything about having kids. You're basically doing the exact same thing. 🙂 Nah, that was a total fluke. 😬

placidorca16 said:So, in your world, is saying women have unique biological capabilities—like giving birth, which is a fact—just as wrong as claiming women aren't as intelligent as men? Because one's true and the other's a lie.😲

I see your original post has been edited a bit; looks pretty polished now.

I haven't actually "edited" anything since I started this thread—there was just a minor technical glitch right at the start that I had to fix immediately. Nothing major.

Joined on August 6, 2013, at 9:07 AM. Last edited by placidorca16 on August 6, 2013, at 9:29 AM.

🙂
George Sanders37 George Sanders37 Active Member
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#53 ·
placidorca16 said:Look, equality isn't about pretending biological differences don't exist—that’s impossible. It’s more about ensuring those differences aren't used to justify social hierarchies where men end up on top and women get sidelined just because they can bear children—which, let's face it, happens all too often. It's honestly absurd that female biology is so frequently devalued when it’s literally what keeps the entire human race going.

Look, I'm all for equality regardless of gender, but you seem to talk about superiority constantly in your posts.

So, we're all equal, but some people are just more equal than others?
placidorca16 placidorca16 Active MemberOP
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#54 ·
Michelle Alvarez8 said:Look, I don't need psychic powers to understand what's right in front of me. But hey, apparently, basic reading comprehension is pure science fiction to some people, isn't it?

So, who exactly is the "science fiction" in this scenario?
Alex Barnes8 Alex Barnes8 Active Member
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#55 ·
Michelle Alvarez8 said:Anddddd... they're right there in your posts.

Come on, in which one exactly?
placidorca16 placidorca16 Active MemberOP
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#56 ·
George Sanders37 said:Look, I'm all for equality regardless of gender, but you seem to talk about superiority constantly in your posts.

So, we're all equal, but some people are just more equal than others?

No—I never actually used the word "superior"—but I did say it's significant, which seems to be constantly dismissed. I'm just asking who decided that? Why is it always being undervalued?
placidorca16 placidorca16 Active MemberOP
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#57 ·
Sophia Thomas7 said:Once again, I'm going to say it, and I’ll be quoting someone directly this time:

I honestly don't know how people can live like this. It’s genuinely baffling. You look at what’s happening, you see the direction everything is heading, and you just have to wonder if anyone is actually paying attention. It feels like we're all just sleepwalking into a mess that nobody wants to take responsibility for. It’s one thing to disagree on certain ideas, but it's another thing entirely to watch the foundations of our society get chipped away while everyone pretends nothing is wrong. I’m sitting here trying to make sense of it all, and frankly, I’m coming up empty. It’s exhausting.

It’s nowhere to be found in the text—it doesn't mention anything about having kids. You're basically doing the exact same thing. 🙂 Nah, that was a total fluke. 😬

Joined on August 6, 2013, at 9:07 AM. Last edited by placidorca16 on August 6, 2013, at 9:29 AM.

🙂

Fine, if you and your little "reach" squad want to claim that:🤷 🙄 Good luck turning blatant facts into a joke...

The post was made on August 6, 2013, at 9:07 AM—last edited by placidorca16: 08/06/2013 at 9:29 AM.

🙂

And your point is?🤷 I spotted a typo—literally just a misspelled word—and fixed it twenty minutes later. Is that against the rules now, or are we calling it some kind of "feminist conspiracy"?😕
Sophia Thomas7 Sophia Thomas7 Active Member
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#58 ·
placidorca16 said:Fine, if you and your little "reach" squad want to claim that:🤷 🙄 Good luck turning blatant facts into a joke...

The post was made on August 6, 2013, at 9:07 AM—last edited by placidorca16: 08/06/2013 at 9:29 AM.

🙂

And your point is?🤷 I spotted a typo—literally just a misspelled word—and fixed it twenty minutes later. Is that against the rules now, or are we calling it some kind of "feminist conspiracy"?😕

Which exact "undeniable facts" are we talking about here? Someone quoted what you actually wrote, and they had a pretty good reason for doing so. Now you're claiming you didn't mean what you said, but were just thinking something else entirely.

placidorca16 said:Fine, if you and your little "reach" squad want to claim that:🤷 🙄 Good luck turning blatant facts into a joke...

The post was made on August 6, 2013, at 9:07 AM—last edited by placidorca16: 08/06/2013 at 9:29 AM.

🙂

And your point is?🤷 I spotted a typo—literally just a misspelled word—and fixed it twenty minutes later. Is that against the rules now, or are we calling it some kind of "feminist conspiracy"?😕

By all means, point out exactly where I ever mentioned a "conspiracy."
placidorca16 placidorca16 Active MemberOP
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#59 ·
Sophia Thomas7 said:Which exact "undeniable facts" are we talking about here? Someone quoted what you actually wrote, and they had a pretty good reason for doing so. Now you're claiming you didn't mean what you said, but were just thinking something else entirely.

By all means, point out exactly where I ever mentioned a "conspiracy."

Look, I clearly stated that women generally possess more abilities than men. Being able to give birth is an ability—that’s just a fact. Or do you and your little crew think it isn't? What exactly am I "claiming" I didn't say? 😕 Don't try to put words in my mouth that I never uttered or even thought.

Feel free to point out where I actually mentioned anything about a 'conspiracy.'

You didn't say it, but why on earth are you interrogating me about why I edited my original post? As if editing isn't allowed—as if a person can't make a typo and fix it, like everyone else does. Why even ask if it matters to you?😕 Why would that even matter to you in the first place?
Sophia Thomas7 Sophia Thomas7 Active Member
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#60 ·
placidorca16 said:Look, I clearly stated that women generally possess more abilities than men. Being able to give birth is an ability—that’s just a fact. Or do you and your little crew think it isn't? What exactly am I "claiming" I didn't say? 😕 Don't try to put words in my mouth that I never uttered or even thought.

Feel free to point out where I actually mentioned anything about a 'conspiracy.'

You didn't say it, but why on earth are you interrogating me about why I edited my original post? As if editing isn't allowed—as if a person can't make a typo and fix it, like everyone else does. Why even ask if it matters to you?😕 Why would that even matter to you in the first place?

Where exactly in that quote does it look like you were talking about having kids?

placidorca16 said:Look, I clearly stated that women generally possess more abilities than men. Being able to give birth is an ability—that’s just a fact. Or do you and your little crew think it isn't? What exactly am I "claiming" I didn't say? 😕 Don't try to put words in my mouth that I never uttered or even thought.

Feel free to point out where I actually mentioned anything about a 'conspiracy.'

You didn't say it, but why on earth are you interrogating me about why I edited my original post? As if editing isn't allowed—as if a person can't make a typo and fix it, like everyone else does. Why even ask if it matters to you?😕 Why would that even matter to you in the first place?

Look, I'm just asking because I'm curious.

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