MK, vol. 219483

...let's just put this thread back where it belongs,
and if it’s not something you care to read—well, you don't have to, does it?

Honestly, the moderation at MK isn't nearly liberal enough. We need a real discussion where advice about beating a wife without leaving bruises doesn't just get wiped away. MK acts like a kid who keeps making a mess while the parents refuse to say, "Enough is enough, you can't do that," opting instead to claim he's special 😍.

Linda Price5 said:Honestly, the moderation at MK isn't nearly liberal enough. We need a real discussion where advice about beating a wife without leaving bruises doesn't just get wiped away. MK acts like a kid who keeps making a mess while the parents refuse to say, "Enough is enough, you can't do that," opting instead to claim he's special 😍.

In my estimation, this specific comment—and indeed the one prior where you compared MK users to immature children running amok—actually reveals much more about your own character and those responsible for moderating this PDF who permit such behavior. This is nothing more than blatant trolling; it adds absolutely zero value to the discussion and serves only to turn this PDF into an unpleasant environment where people feel emboldened to troll and insult one another at will.
Regarding the deletion of posts involving pulling a teacher by the ear—this place is truly a paradise.
For the troll.

Look, I’ll gladly take the bait just to troll a bit, even if it means getting slapped with a ban and sitting out for three days. Honestly, I don't mind the timeout one bit. 😍

What I really want to know is what kind of disciplinary action the moderator will face for actively encouraging violence against children, which is strictly illegal under US law. 🥳

Also, since when did this forum start allowing people to go back and revisionistically edit their posts? 🥳

rustydrifter10 said:Look, you just can't go around encouraging or glorifying actions that are straight-up illegal under our laws, especially when it comes to... well, everything else we were discussing. It’s just not right. When we're talking about the core rules of the game, everything really starts to click into place. foruma piše:

Just a quick heads-up for everyone joining us here on the forum: we have some ground rules to keep this community running smoothly. To keep things civil and enjoyable for everyone, please keep the following prohibitions in mind:

Just a heads-up for everyone: please make sure you aren't breaking any U.S. laws here. We’re specifically looking out for things like hate speech, discrimination, or anyone trying to justify or glorify criminal acts. We also have a zero-tolerance policy regarding copyright infringement, child exploitation, animal cruelty, and anything else illegal. Let's keep this community safe and respectful!

Look, there’s a massive difference between just having a debate and actually crossing the line. It's one thing to sit down and hash out your personal opinions—to say, "Hey, in my book, this is wrong" or "I personally find this unacceptable." That's what healthy discussion is all about. But once you start talking about things that are strictly illegal under U.S. law? Well, then you can't use this forum to encourage those actions or try to glorify them. There's a very clear distinction between sharing a viewpoint and inciting criminal behavior, and we need to respect that boundary.

But honestly, I don't think anything was actually done here that breaks that specific rule. 🤷
I haven't broken any laws, I'm certainly not inciting hate or discrimination, and I'm definitely not justifying or praising any crimes or anything like that. 😕

I think we really need to learn how to tell the difference between an actual criminal offense and just something that happens to be prohibited by law.

Megan Ruiz13 said:I've read all the posts—I even shared my own take—and I've gone through Charles Fox10's comments too. I don't see anyone calling for violence here. He's talking about disciplinary measures...

There’s a massive difference between an abuser who beats their kids or spouse to vent frustration because they can't handle parenting, and someone who just raises their voice or gives a naughty kid a quick swat on the backside.

Like I said, nobody wrote anything suggesting anyone should be abused or attacked. 🤷

You guys are ganging up on him for nothing.

Charles Fox10 was essentially advocating for violence by labeling it as a disciplinary measure.😁

hollowtrucker77 said:On MK, the whole debate is actually pretty reasonable, considering the core issue is how some people choose to label certain behaviors as hyperactivity
Maybe I’m just not dim-witted or dull enough for my own good, but personally, I haven't noticed any actual, attention-grabbing problem on MK

Aaron Harris2 said:As an MK moderator (though I didn't manage to catch up on this thread last night, given it was only just opened), I wish to state my position clearly: I am firmly opposed to any form of physical abuse or corporal punishment directed at anyone, and most especially against children.
Furthermore, I believe that censoring the opinions of users on this forum is a deeply harmful practice, one that runs directly contrary to the recent directives from the forum owners regarding a more relaxed approach to moderation. To be precise, I am referring to the deletion of someone's lived experiences and personal perspectives. While I certainly do not condone calls for violence or similar behavior, which absolutely ought to be penalized, we must protect discourse.
For the reasons stated above, I have closed this topic, and if you ask my opinion, it shall remain so. If you desire a sanitized, clinical discussion, you are welcome to take it to a specialized child psychology PDF or perhaps join a dedicated group on Facebook.

Long live MK!

Oh boy. 🤦

Nice try, but you completely missed the mark.😁

If there’s any censorship to be found on this forum, it’s coming straight from MK. It just seems like that censorship is specifically targeted at anyone who... They aren't. The inventory over there.

If you're looking for the ultimate sensitive souls on this site, look no further than the MK section.
What should we call these types of users—the ones who constantly force moderators to step in because they resort to insulting people just because they can't find a clever comeback? It’s like they lack the wit or the imagination to actually win an argument, so they just gang up on someone ten-to-one instead of using logic. Then, the moderator swoops in, hands out a single yellow card to one person, and just wipes the rest of the posts clean.
I suppose one shouldn't go around offending anyone from the MK. 🤷

There is an entire series of examples like this; for instance, the most recent one is currently a hot topic. Divorced mothers seem to have a distinct advantage when it comes to gaining custody of their children—it’s a clear byproduct of modern feminism..
Alex Barnes8 was dealing with a massive wave of chauvinistic attacks on the forum. At first, she handled it with incredible grace, choosing to just ignore the insults from those MK users—even though their harassment wasn't being moderated. But the second she finally decided to stand her ground and fire back, she was hit with a red card.
Since they couldn't find a way to actually counter her well-reasoned arguments, the users just resorted to frustrated insults—it seems they're already used to having someone shield them from reality.

Well, that’s just plain sweet.😁

Hey Charles Fox10, I have to ask—why was Alex Barnes8 getting hit with so many red cards while those vulgar, insulting posts from that guy from MK just get deleted without any penalty? Specifically, brightcrane56 quoted her post and, apparently unable to come up with anything remotely intelligent, just wrote... Go screw yourself.That post was deleted within minutes instead of being sanctioned.

It’s honestly hilarious watching some people on this thread try to paint MK as some chill, laid-back spot that everyone else is just out to censor. If that were actually the case, they’d be complaining about the thread titled—get this—😁) How does one go about sabotaging a Pride parade?
From what I can see, that thread is sitting there perfectly fine without any moderator deletions for homophobic remarks, and the only ban issued there is—get this...😁) on this post. Basically, someone had the nerve to suggest the title sounds like hate speech and deserves a red card. I don't want to upset whatever sensitive little soul from MK is offended. 😁
That’s enough about how "laid-back and joking" MK supposedly is.

Those constant sexist outbursts that they try to pass off as "just a joke" fail immediately—as soon as some woman on the forum manages to shut them down with actual wit (which isn't hard 😁), these immature types can't dish it out. Instead, they resort to insults, swearing, and calling for the moderators. 😂

Aaron Harris2 said:As an MK moderator (though I didn't manage to catch up on this thread last night, given it was only just opened), I wish to state my position clearly: I am firmly opposed to any form of physical abuse or corporal punishment directed at anyone, and most especially against children.
Furthermore, I believe that censoring the opinions of users on this forum is a deeply harmful practice, one that runs directly contrary to the recent directives from the forum owners regarding a more relaxed approach to moderation. To be precise, I am referring to the deletion of someone's lived experiences and personal perspectives. While I certainly do not condone calls for violence or similar behavior, which absolutely ought to be penalized, we must protect discourse.
For the reasons stated above, I have closed this topic, and if you ask my opinion, it shall remain so. If you desire a sanitized, clinical discussion, you are welcome to take it to a specialized child psychology PDF or perhaps join a dedicated group on Facebook.

Long live MK!

:facepalm :🤣

mazgov said:The topic is hyperactive kids, but you've twisted it into child abuse and attacking the people participating in the discussion.

The subject is 'hyperactive children,' yet you all have turned it into an argument about child abuse and glorifying violent methods.
It’s particularly dangerous to claim: 'No one was advocating hitting as violence, just as a disciplinary method.' 🙄
I suppose no one ever promotes violence by simply saying, 'be violent!'
It's always wrapped up in something more palatable. In this case, violence is being wrapped in the phrase 'disciplinary method.'
So, I guess—yes, that is essentially inciting and glorifying violence. 🙂

The entire MK really ought to be abolished ☕

Question:

If the topic wasn't actually advocating for child abuse, then how does it make sense that the moderator (who claims here that there was no need for such a massive uproar) shut it down with these words:

I absolutely do not condone child abuse or any form of violence against children. For that reason, I am closing this thread immediately.

Hmm...🤔

loneraven25 said:...let's just put this thread back where it belongs,
and if it’s not something you care to read—well, you don't have to, does it?

Do you actually realize that you just basically drafted a proposal to abolish moderation on Forumu.hr?

The thing is, there isn’t any logical reason why your little demand would apply to just one single thread...

Linda Price5 said:Honestly, the moderation at MK isn't nearly liberal enough. We need a real discussion where advice about beating a wife without leaving bruises doesn't just get wiped away. MK acts like a kid who keeps making a mess while the parents refuse to say, "Enough is enough, you can't do that," opting instead to claim he's special 😍.

Look, a child is a different story. By definition, they're immature and haven't fully developed the cognitive tools to recognize certain things yet.

On the flip side, how do we describe an adult who still fails to recognize those same things? 😳

By the way, dictators almost always share one trait: they can't tell the difference between actual humor and making fun of their own "values."☕

Laura Chavez93 said:The entire MK really ought to be abolished ☕

I think you're being a bit dramatic.
In my opinion, all we really need is for the users over in the MK section to stop calling for the moderator every single time someone snaps back at their provocations.😁

Laura Chavez93 said:The entire MK really ought to be abolished ☕

the entire forum ☕

would be better for everyone if we all just stepped outside for some fresh air and went for a walk. 🧐

bluemason3 said:Look, a child is a different story. By definition, they're immature and haven't fully developed the cognitive tools to recognize certain things yet.

On the flip side, how do we describe an adult who still fails to recognize those same things? 😳

By the way, dictators almost always share one trait: they can't tell the difference between actual humor and making fun of their own "values."☕

And I guess that's precisely why you have to be more careful with them, not less than you would with adults.

Dictators also tend to be completely incapable of humor or joking when it comes to their own "values."☕

Dictators usually suffer from distorted moral values, which means they almost never actually say the word 'violence.'
They just rely on a long list of euphemisms that they pull out whenever it suits them. ☕

This would actually be a fantastic topic for the MK group, though it's a shame they've locked it down. We really ought to conduct some deep research into what the MK crowd thinks about those little rebels who run wild while parents just sit there smiling, cooing, "Oh, he's just so special," or claiming he’s some kind of "indigo child." It’s always a circus when they show up at a teacher's house because someone finally had the audacity to tell their precious kid to pull it together.

Then, we could take all those same principles and apply them directly back to them (just excluding any physical discipline 😳).

bluemason3 said:Look, a child is a different story. By definition, they're immature and haven't fully developed the cognitive tools to recognize certain things yet.

On the flip side, how do we describe an adult who still fails to recognize those same things? 😳

By the way, dictators almost always share one trait: they can't tell the difference between actual humor and making fun of their own "values."☕

Every single child has significantly more developed mechanisms and a much better capacity for recognizing things than some senile old woman—does that mean it’s perfectly fine to slap Grandma Hedwig when her own mechanisms and recognition skills fail her?

BTW, you are grossly underestimating both children and their actual ability to process things. On the contrary—and I am repeating this to counter the absolute nonsense that physical punishment from parents is actually a sign of neglect or a lack of care—a slap or a kick in the rear is nothing more than a disgusting shortcut. It's used because people want to follow the principle of "one kick in the butt speaks louder than a thousand words" just so they can get back to staring at math equations, sipping a beer, and engaging in typical male banter in peace.

Nicholas King said:So, let me get this straight—you're claiming that the sentence "danas dijete malo tući" from your deleted (and I have to wonder, was it even a real post or just some cartoonish nonsense?) post is somehow just "male banter"?

I am actually laughing out loud here.

Are we saying they aren't hit enough—or at all—if you just compare it to how things used to be?

What’s the issue? Is it not a fact?

How does my post end?

Look, you just cherry-pick words or fragments of sentences to get worked up over nothing. Most of the time you don't even show up in the threads, then suddenly you pop in out of nowhere just to start drama. 🤷

Laura Chavez93 said:The entire MK really ought to be abolished ☕

That would be such a massive waste, I guess. 🤣

Megan Ruiz13 said:Are we saying they aren't hit enough—or at all—if you just compare it to how things used to be?

What’s the issue? Is it not a fact?

How does my post end?

Look, you just cherry-pick words or fragments of sentences to get worked up over nothing. Most of the time you don't even show up in the threads, then suddenly you pop in out of nowhere just to start drama. 🤷

I honestly think you're missing the point entirely—the statement "kids don't get hit enough today" isn't some attempt at a historical comparison (it’s strictly an expression of regret and an argument for fixing that deficiency), or am I just failing to grasp that specific, highly questionable sense of humor that seems to baffle everyone else?