Email address?

Some of us use a single email address for everything (like me), and obviously, I used that same one to sign up for this forum. Naturally, my full legal name is attached to it. And of course, any of you creeps can see it. So when a moderator reaches out via PM and addresses me as an actual person using my real name, what’s the deal? Who is actually protecting my privacy then? 🤷
There is a massive difference between voluntarily posting a photo or an email address and the other, shady stuff you guys have agreed to. If I decide to post pictures of my tits on this forum, that's my choice. Right?

Anthony Collins4 said:Yeah, it's bullshit, though really it's just having access to full names and being able to comment on the private data of various forum users and such.
But I suppose that isn't my concern; I'm not really trying to make a point about the illegality of it all, rather I'm thinking of Paul Green31. 😉

This is exactly the point I make every single time I get into an argument with people like you. Every time you post something like this, it proves my point. 🤣

feralpilot6 said:Some of us use a single email address for everything (like me), and obviously, I used that same one to sign up for this forum. Naturally, my full legal name is attached to it. And of course, any of you creeps can see it. So when a moderator reaches out via PM and addresses me as an actual person using my real name, what’s the deal? Who is actually protecting my privacy then? 🤷
There is a massive difference between voluntarily posting a photo or an email address and the other, shady stuff you guys have agreed to. If I decide to post pictures of my tits on this forum, that's my choice. Right?

It’s just like being in the military. You know that type of commander? The one who suddenly starts calling you by your first name instead of your last? That’s when you know they're trying to act way too close for comfort. 😁

Then there’s that religious take: "Only God calls you by your name!"

But that only applies to you if Anderlon sent you a PM. 🤣

Paul Green31 said:If you actually caught onto all that, I guess I have to give you some credit for paying attention. But honestly? You’re still missing the bigger picture. You've got the gist, sure, but you need to dig a little deeper if you want to truly get it. Do your homework.

Look, when it comes to the moderators—we're talking about a forum with a hundred of them who aren't even bound by any contract to protect my privacy—you're seriously claiming that them snooping at my email address isn't a violation of the Privacy Act? You didn't even bother to cite the actual law, which you really should be doing if you're going to throw it around like that.

Are you actually kidding me right now? Do you seriously not get what I'm asking? 🤷

Of course they aren't. Moderators fall right under the category of administrative staff, and because of that, they’re legally bound to follow the exact same procedures as anyone else working those types of roles. Isn't that just how it works?
And they can absolutely be held responsible for any screw-ups in that department, though I bet most people don't even realize it.

Just so you know, a ton of users' private info is sitting right there on the moderator side. It’s not just the current mods who can see it, either—it's former mods too, plus anyone who happens to know the passwords for the current or past moderation staff. Pretty wild, right?

Well, good luck finding a lawyer who can actually make sense of those regulations for you. Why don't you just sue the forum for handing over your private info to third parties? Once you land that massive settlement, give me a call and we'll grab a drink. We could even bring hollowtrucker77 along. 🙂

You're trolling.

Of course they aren't. Moderators fall under the category of forum administrative staff, and as such, they are legally obligated to follow the procedures that apply to anyone performing those types of roles.
They can absolutely be held accountable for lapses in that area, even if many people aren't aware of it.

Roles? Does anyone there actually have an employment contract or are they just volunteering?

Well, by all means, go find yourself a lawyer who can interpret those laws mentioned above. Sue the forum for handing over your private data to third parties, and once you win your settlement, give me a call so we can grab a drink. We could even invite hollowtrucker77 along. 🙂

I don't have any intention of doing that, but thanks for the suggestion. And hollowtrucker77 thanks you as well.

Paul Green31 said:If you actually caught onto all that, I guess I have to give you some credit for paying attention. But honestly? You’re still missing the bigger picture. You've got the gist, sure, but you need to dig a little deeper if you want to truly get it. Do your homework.

Look, when it comes to the moderators—we're talking about a forum with a hundred of them who aren't even bound by any contract to protect my privacy—you're seriously claiming that them snooping at my email address isn't a violation of the Privacy Act? You didn't even bother to cite the actual law, which you really should be doing if you're going to throw it around like that.

Are you actually kidding me right now? Do you seriously not get what I'm asking? 🤷

Of course they aren't. Moderators fall right under the category of administrative staff, and because of that, they’re legally bound to follow the exact same procedures as anyone else working those types of roles. Isn't that just how it works?
And they can absolutely be held responsible for any screw-ups in that department, though I bet most people don't even realize it.

Just so you know, a ton of users' private info is sitting right there on the moderator side. It’s not just the current mods who can see it, either—it's former mods too, plus anyone who happens to know the passwords for the current or past moderation staff. Pretty wild, right?

Well, good luck finding a lawyer who can actually make sense of those regulations for you. Why don't you just sue the forum for handing over your private info to third parties? Once you land that massive settlement, give me a call and we'll grab a drink. We could even bring hollowtrucker77 along. 🙂

This might have been intended as a joke, but honestly, it just feels like a poorly executed attempt at humor.

Since you presented yourself as someone who knows their way around these things, I’ll pose the same question to you: if an email address is considered protected information under the Privacy Act and isn't allowed to be shared, how is it possible that it can be listed right there in a user profile, yet posting it within a thread on this same forum is off-limits?

wanderingbadger44 said:This might have been intended as a joke, but honestly, it just feels like a poorly executed attempt at humor.

Since you presented yourself as someone who knows their way around these things, I’ll pose the same question to you: if an email address is considered protected information under the Privacy Act and isn't allowed to be shared, how is it possible that it can be listed right there in a user profile, yet posting it within a thread on this same forum is off-limits?

So, what exactly can she even post on her profile?

Anthony Collins4 said:You're trolling.

Of course they aren't. Moderators fall under the category of forum administrative staff, and as such, they are legally obligated to follow the procedures that apply to anyone performing those types of roles.
They can absolutely be held accountable for lapses in that area, even if many people aren't aware of it.

Roles? Does anyone there actually have an employment contract or are they just volunteering?

Well, by all means, go find yourself a lawyer who can interpret those laws mentioned above. Sue the forum for handing over your private data to third parties, and once you win your settlement, give me a call so we can grab a drink. We could even invite hollowtrucker77 along. 🙂

I don't have any intention of doing that, but thanks for the suggestion. And hollowtrucker77 thanks you as well.

Oh, so you've gone and become all holy and sanctimonious now, have you?

Jobs? Does anyone here actually have a real employment contract or even just a volunteer gig?

Are you absolutely certain there isn't?
Don't they just email the mods a Word doc containing all the code of conduct? You know, the stuff that actually lays out the rules for this kind of thing under the regulation law...
I don't know, honestly. But based on my experience dealing with other places, I'm pretty sure I'm right.

Email is part of it too, especially under the digital signature laws. That’s why you register everything with an email address—by clicking that confirmation link, you’re basically digitally signing the terms and conditions. Legally speaking, that carries the exact same weight as your actual handwritten signature. You really think they aren't watching?

By emailing over a formal code of conduct when someone signs their "moderator agreement," you’ve effectively covered your bases. It's basically a verified, legally binding contract at that point. The moderator can't claim ignorance—they've been officially notified of exactly what they're responsible for. Simple as that.

Look, buying a copy of Story at a newsstand is still a legally binding contract with clearly defined rights and obligations. You don't need to sign anything for it to be treated as a contract under the law. Simple as that.

Chris Fowler3 said:I don't want to start yet another thread just to ask this, so I'll just drop it here,

is it actually allowed to post your own email address on this forum,
whether it's in a post or on your profile?

Hell no. Because the second you hit "Send post," you aren't the one publishing that email—the site is. And under the Privacy Act, they can't do that.

Is that really so hard to wrap your head around?

feralpilot6 said:Some of us use a single email address for everything (like me), and obviously, I used that same one to sign up for this forum. Naturally, my full legal name is attached to it. And of course, any of you creeps can see it. So when a moderator reaches out via PM and addresses me as an actual person using my real name, what’s the deal? Who is actually protecting my privacy then? 🤷
There is a massive difference between voluntarily posting a photo or an email address and the other, shady stuff you guys have agreed to. If I decide to post pictures of my tits on this forum, that's my choice. Right?

It’s a total violation of privacy when someone starts addressing you by your legal name.
But look, since you went ahead and put your name, your boobs, or whatever else out there in the public eye—well, that's on you.
Then again, nobody can actually prove whether it was really your breasts, your name, or anything of the sort that you posted.
By that same logic, you could just post someone else's email address and invite anyone who wants to f***ing sleep with them for free.
What happens then?
Just imagine some person who knows you and absolutely hates your guts posts your phone number claiming it's their own.
That person is nothing more than a username on a forum, yet you'd be the one dealing with the fallout, likely blaming or even trying to sue the forum for harassment.

Paul Green31 said:Hell no. Because the second you hit "Send post," you aren't the one publishing that email—the site is. And under the Privacy Act, they can't do that.

Is that really so hard to wrap your head around?

What kind of nonsense is that? So what, the website just wrote all my posts for me?

Paul Green31 said:I still remember back in the day when we’d get a Word doc listing our responsibilities, and it would always kick off with:

Moderators are responsible for...

And yeah, that document actually defined how to handle user data too.

But that was ages ago. It's possible someone just stopped sending them out, though that's a pretty stupid move if they did.

Thanks for the advice, but I'm also a grown man—legally and otherwise—and I'll decide who to defend and when. Besides, I have that f***ing flaw where I tend to stick up for the underdog, and right now, Sasha is just the little guy getting kicked around by a pack of bullies on the PZK.

It's your call, though your take on Sasha's perspective is slightly off-base.😉
This isn't his first rodeo, nor will it be his last—dealing with this kind of stuff has become almost routine for him.😍
Besides, playing "defender" usually just triggers a backlash. For instance, you actually managed to "force" me to chime in, even though, frankly, I had zero interest in dissecting Sasha's recent decisions.🙂

Paul Green31 said:So, what exactly can she even post on her profile?

Oh, so you've gone and become all holy and sanctimonious now, have you?

Jobs? Does anyone here actually have a real employment contract or even just a volunteer gig?

Are you absolutely certain there isn't?
Don't they just email the mods a Word doc containing all the code of conduct? You know, the stuff that actually lays out the rules for this kind of thing under the regulation law...
I don't know, honestly. But based on my experience dealing with other places, I'm pretty sure I'm right.

Email is part of it too, especially under the digital signature laws. That’s why you register everything with an email address—by clicking that confirmation link, you’re basically digitally signing the terms and conditions. Legally speaking, that carries the exact same weight as your actual handwritten signature. You really think they aren't watching?

By emailing over a formal code of conduct when someone signs their "moderator agreement," you’ve effectively covered your bases. It's basically a verified, legally binding contract at that point. The moderator can't claim ignorance—they've been officially notified of exactly what they're responsible for. Simple as that.

Look, buying a copy of Story at a newsstand is still a legally binding contract with clearly defined rights and obligations. You don't need to sign anything for it to be treated as a contract under the law. Simple as that.

I never actually said it was allowed; I just phrased it as a question of whether it's possible.

Your comment actually prompted me to go hunting through the classifieds, and I noticed people offering contact via Skype, MSN, Yahoo, and all sorts of other platforms, which I assume requires an email address to get things moving. I hadn't really given it much thought before, so I didn't bother looking, and honestly, I just don't know.

That’s why I’m asking you: if...

And later on, I'll bring you back to the points you seem to be overlooking or dodging: how posting photos of oneself—especially when it involves minors or children—is considered acceptable, and by what logic those images are somehow less private than a simple email address. I also want to know how anyone verifies they are even authentic.

Look, I’ve already said my piece. Posting your breasts or posting your email is entirely up to the users here, especially when that email address includes your username anyway.
If I were to post an address belonging to vodenablablatočka, would that even count as my own address?

Besides, none of these contests should even be considered legitimate, except maybe the ones with official paperwork—and even then, you could easily fake those.

Is there actually a penalty for violating privacy (for the moderator)? How would that even work?

A phone number is a completely different story. At least in my book. But any moderator who sees my name in an email can find my number without breaking a sweat (assuming it's actually registered to me, and let's ignore the fact that at least twenty other people share this name).

Where is all this f***ing nonsense coming from?

Paul Green31 Asks:
Well, the reason for that is pretty straightforward: posting private information is strictly prohibited on this forum, and under the Privacy Act, an email address is legally classified as private data.

It isn't against the rules here to post MSN Messenger Handles, even if they follow an email address format. As I understand it, those don't actually fall under the definition of private data according to the Privacy Act.

It seems to me that the forum really ought to be doing more to prevent the posting of private information, whether a user is sharing their own sensitive details or someone else's. I suppose there should be some kind of standard in place to stop that sort of thing from happening.

Technically, under the Privacy Act, I could choose to post my own private information right here on the forum, and then subsequently sue the platform for publishing it. It’s a bit of a legal gray area, I suppose, but the theory holds up. 😁
Pretty decent, wouldn't you say?

It seems to me that once I hit that "send" button, the forum essentially becomes the owner of my content, which would imply they also inherit all the liability for whatever I’ve written. I suppose that's just how these digital spaces operate nowadays, though it feels a bit heavy-handed, if you ask me.

Alright, look, I’d appreciate it if you could take a moment to revisit the original post. I’m struggling to see how this specific situation actually connects to my constant rambling about regulation laws. Honestly, there seems to be absolutely no link between the two—none at all, really.

The forum doesn't own my content. I don't know where you got that idea from—maybe it was that little clause next to the checkbox? I guess people tend to overlook those things. 😁

Paul Green31 As specified by:
The point is this: let's go looking for the speck in Sasha's eye.

🤣 Sasha's personal finances.

I suppose you could at least try to read with a bit more comprehension, especially since you seem so driven by this desperate need to defend someone in a position of power. It’s honestly a bit pathetic, if you ask me.
Those conservatives... it’s always the exact same tired narrative. ☕

Paul Green31 said:So, what exactly can she even post on her profile?

Oh, so you've gone and become all holy and sanctimonious now, have you?

Jobs? Does anyone here actually have a real employment contract or even just a volunteer gig?

Are you absolutely certain there isn't?
Don't they just email the mods a Word doc containing all the code of conduct? You know, the stuff that actually lays out the rules for this kind of thing under the regulation law...
I don't know, honestly. But based on my experience dealing with other places, I'm pretty sure I'm right.

Email is part of it too, especially under the digital signature laws. That’s why you register everything with an email address—by clicking that confirmation link, you’re basically digitally signing the terms and conditions. Legally speaking, that carries the exact same weight as your actual handwritten signature. You really think they aren't watching?

By emailing over a formal code of conduct when someone signs their "moderator agreement," you’ve effectively covered your bases. It's basically a verified, legally binding contract at that point. The moderator can't claim ignorance—they've been officially notified of exactly what they're responsible for. Simple as that.

Look, buying a copy of Story at a newsstand is still a legally binding contract with clearly defined rights and obligations. You don't need to sign anything for it to be treated as a contract under the law. Simple as that.

Well, wherever she wants.🤷 Some people just put them there.

If we’re going to be consistent about this, then you’d have to delete entire threads—like, say, all those Fashion Critique posts meant for the brave ladies here—simply because they’re packed with links to blogs where girls write under their real names and show their faces (even if they stay anonymous on the forum). You could also wipe out tons of threads from the Random stuff or Recreation sections since there are plenty of photos there too. And Weddings. Even the LJES threads.

Steven Reed said:It's your call, though your take on Sasha's perspective is slightly off-base.😉
This isn't his first rodeo, nor will it be his last—dealing with this kind of stuff has become almost routine for him.😍
Besides, playing "defender" usually just triggers a backlash. For instance, you actually managed to "force" me to chime in, even though, frankly, I had zero interest in dissecting Sasha's recent decisions.🙂

Oh, sure, I just had to insist on risking being called in as a court expert for hollowtrucker77 and ZgSashovina, just so he could bury me under a mountain of technical jargon.

So, what exactly makes you think your sudden appearance shifted anything toward your "winning" side?

(Sorry if that sounded blunt, but I don't get this whole "counter-effect" theory of yours. I'm here to argue—that's why I'm on this forum. And I love having opponents, especially when I know I'm right. At the end of the day, isn't that the whole point of being online?)

Is it any clearer if I point out that we’ve actually dealt with people hijacking someone else's virtual identity before?

Cut the crap and just give it to me straight.
😁

hollowtrucker77 is right when he’s right and wrong when he’s wrong, so there's really no point even trying to argue with him.
I basically just ignore him most of the time.

feralpilot6 said:Look, I’ve already said my piece. Posting your breasts or posting your email is entirely up to the users here, especially when that email address includes your username anyway.
If I were to post an address belonging to vodenablablatočka, would that even count as my own address?

Besides, none of these contests should even be considered legitimate, except maybe the ones with official paperwork—and even then, you could easily fake those.

Is there actually a penalty for violating privacy (for the moderator)? How would that even work?

A phone number is a completely different story. At least in my book. But any moderator who sees my name in an email can find my number without breaking a sweat (assuming it's actually registered to me, and let's ignore the fact that at least twenty other people share this name).

Where is all this f***ing nonsense coming from?

It’s coming from the same place as the unpunished insults toward users and all the trolling going on here.

Anthony Collins4 said:

Paul Green31 Asks:
Well, the reason for that is pretty straightforward: posting private information is strictly prohibited on this forum, and under the Privacy Act, an email address is legally classified as private data.

It isn't against the rules here to post MSN Messenger Handles, even if they follow an email address format. As I understand it, those don't actually fall under the definition of private data according to the Privacy Act.

It seems to me that the forum really ought to be doing more to prevent the posting of private information, whether a user is sharing their own sensitive details or someone else's. I suppose there should be some kind of standard in place to stop that sort of thing from happening.

Technically, under the Privacy Act, I could choose to post my own private information right here on the forum, and then subsequently sue the platform for publishing it. It’s a bit of a legal gray area, I suppose, but the theory holds up. 😁
Pretty decent, wouldn't you say?

It seems to me that once I hit that "send" button, the forum essentially becomes the owner of my content, which would imply they also inherit all the liability for whatever I’ve written. I suppose that's just how these digital spaces operate nowadays, though it feels a bit heavy-handed, if you ask me.

Alright, look, I’d appreciate it if you could take a moment to revisit the original post. I’m struggling to see how this specific situation actually connects to my constant rambling about regulation laws. Honestly, there seems to be absolutely no link between the two—none at all, really.

The forum doesn't own my content. I don't know where you got that idea from—maybe it was that little clause next to the checkbox? I guess people tend to overlook those things. 😁

Paul Green31 As specified by:
The point is this: let's go looking for the speck in Sasha's eye.

🤣 Sasha's personal finances.

I suppose you could at least try to read with a bit more comprehension, especially since you seem so driven by this desperate need to defend someone in a position of power. It’s honestly a bit pathetic, if you ask me.
Those conservatives... it’s always the exact same tired narrative. ☕

Look, they don't own the content itself, but they *do* own the posts you published on their site. In other words, the forum is legally the publisher of your posts. But since you clearly can't grasp that, I guess everything in this thread just feels "fluid" to you.

And you guys managed to screw up this thread again.

Every time I try to be as dead serious and honest as possible, I just end up getting f***ing screwed over.🙂