Moderators are being so petty, uncreative, and incompetent

driftingeagle27 said:So, just take a look at how they "moderate" the Music section. 😕

Give me something concrete. An example. An actual argument.

wearyotter81 said:There’s been this ongoing issue over at the recreation center for quite a while now😍

Great. 😍

@Jacob Foster11: Exactly. That's what I meant when I said he just wanted to argue. Though we have to admit, Slafk did push through some changes on the forum. This ban is one of them. Now we can rest easy knowing users won't be posting PMoves.

It would be nice to actually solve problems now. Civilly.

Some of what you're saying, reddriver35, actually makes sense, but it gets lost in all that rambling about who you love or what you choose to write... Try to be a bit more concise and constructive, and maybe we'll see some progress.

wiredharbor22 said:Some of what you're saying, reddriver35, actually makes sense, but it gets lost in all that rambling about who you love or what you choose to write... Try to be a bit more concise and constructive, and maybe we'll see some progress.

Yeah. And on top of that, she just throws in a mountain of assumptions, treating them like they're absolute gospel when they have zero connection to reality.

Then she acts all shocked when nobody takes the discussion seriously. 🤷 🙂

The forum has plenty of issues, sure, but things would actually improve if someone stepped up and laid them out objectively and rationally instead of making it personal.

Instead, everything here just devolves into these hysterical, petty squabbles and accusations like, "Oh, he did this to me!" or "She said that to me!"

Listen, everyone, if you actually want your complaints to be addressed, at least try to make a coherent point about what the actual problem is. 🙂

wiredharbor22 said:Some of what you're saying, reddriver35, actually makes sense, but it gets lost in all that rambling about who you love or what you choose to write... Try to be a bit more concise and constructive, and maybe we'll see some progress.

Where on earth did I say who I love or hate?😕

All I said was that September wasn't kind to me.😁

And I mentioned that only feraltrucker5 and scripta elegans fe showed up in the corner for those who were banned. So, I was giving them credit.

I simply said I love Slafk. 🤣

Just so there's no confusion: I love you too. 🙂

If I need to edit my post, I will. I'm heading out. 😬

reddriver35 said:Where on earth did I say who I love or hate?😕

All I said was that September wasn't kind to me.😁

And I mentioned that only feraltrucker5 and scripta elegans fe showed up in the corner for those who were banned. So, I was giving them credit.

I simply said I love Slafk. 🤣

Just so there's no confusion: I love you too. 🙂

If I need to edit my post, I will. I'm heading out. 😬

Here is an example of a post that isn't worth anything at all. Why can't you just exercise some self-control... 😕

reddriver35 said:Give me something concrete. An example. An actual argument.

Great. 😍

@Jacob Foster11: Exactly. That's what I meant when I said he just wanted to argue. Though we have to admit, Slafk did push through some changes on the forum. This ban is one of them. Now we can rest easy knowing users won't be posting PMoves.

It would be nice to actually solve problems now. Civilly.

Anyway, here’s the latest thing I’ve been noticing: .

feraltrucker5 said:Yeah. And on top of that, she just throws in a mountain of assumptions, treating them like they're absolute gospel when they have zero connection to reality.

Then she acts all shocked when nobody takes the discussion seriously. 🤷 🙂

The forum has plenty of issues, sure, but things would actually improve if someone stepped up and laid them out objectively and rationally instead of making it personal.

Instead, everything here just devolves into these hysterical, petty squabbles and accusations like, "Oh, he did this to me!" or "She said that to me!"

Listen, everyone, if you actually want your complaints to be addressed, at least try to make a coherent point about what the actual problem is. 🙂

Now you're backtracking after that facepalm post of yours. What exactly is the issue with me? I think I made my point perfectly clear, especially since other people are backing me up here. I'm just asking for feedback. Is this right or not?

**Bolded:** You're being incredibly negative. If you have personal issues with me, leave them out of this. 🤷

@wiredharbor22: Noted!

@feraltrucker5: What bothers you is that I mentioned Steven Ruiz because you all got a warning. Is that really what's bothering you?

@ reddriver35: you really need to take a closer look at this post. 🙂

Every single time, you just spiral off into one of those wild little fantasies of yours, charging ahead like some sort of vigilante trying to force justice upon the world, when in reality, you don't have a single clue what the actual facts are. 🙂 That’s the whole damn issue right there. 😛

feraltrucker5 said:@ reddriver35: you really need to take a closer look at this post. 🙂

Every single time, you just spiral off into one of those wild little fantasies of yours, charging ahead like some sort of vigilante trying to force justice upon the world, when in reality, you don't have a single clue what the actual facts are. 🙂 That’s the whole damn issue right there. 😛

Why do I get the feeling this whole topic just bugs you? Honestly, it does. I'm clearly getting on your nerves.

I'd actually rather not talk about Slafk right now since he isn't here to defend himself.

He’s definitely something. But the fact remains: nobody has been entirely fair to him either. 👎

I mean, you posted that facepalm before I even said a word about Slafk.

So, you don't approve of the topic.

Or are you taking this personally?

What's wrong with me asking for the mods to show up in the women's corner? They don't. If they actually showed up, I wouldn't even be bringing it up.

Nicholas King said:Now, I don't claim to know exactly how the sequence of events unfolded, but to me—and I dare say this as someone who is well-meaning and certainly not prone to conspiracy theories—it appeared as though Slafk essentially "fell" victim to the mistaken belief that posting was perfectly fine, while Steven Ruiz ended up being banned significantly after the entire debate had played out. All in all, it’s a strange saga.

If some sort of "final ruling" ever actually surfaced stating that the Prime Minister's post would be punished with a one-month 😲😲😲 ban, well, I certainly haven't seen it.

Honestly, I think it's better to just stay out of it now. That's why I wrote what I wrote.

the 30-day ban decision

reddriver35 said:Are you implying I'm playing Don Quixote tonight? 😢

P.S. Should I tell this guy to start a thread in General Discussion, or just have them move it? 🤷

Hands down, yes.

feraltrucker5 said:🤦 🤣

If one of your buddies had started a similar thread, you wouldn't be here dropping facepalms.

This whole discussion is a perfect example of why on this forum, it’s about WHO is posting, not WHAT they're saying.

wearyotter81 said:There’s been this ongoing issue over at the recreation center for quite a while now😍

😂😂

Speaking of which, does anyone happen to have a PDF handy, or know who might be keeping one close by?😁

Anonymous said:Hands down, yes.

If one of your buddies had started a similar thread, you wouldn't be here dropping facepalms.

This whole discussion is a perfect example of why on this forum, it’s about WHO is posting, not WHAT they're saying.

You hit the nail on the head. Bias.

It’s not just about this specific facepalm post. It’s in the banning, too. Even in the moderation itself.

And apparently, Nexu finds this topic annoying as well. Why is that? 🤷

reddriver35 said:Honestly, I think it's better to just stay out of it now. That's why I wrote what I wrote.

the 30-day ban decision

The issue here is that you can't just take someone else's interpretation of a situation and present it as an absolute fact. Doing that is essentially spreading misinformation. As for Slafk, he was banned from a completely different subforum, so that really has nothing to do with what you originally wrote.

On another note, what exactly is bothering you?
The lack of moderator presence in the women's corner? From what I can see, things are actually improving. hollowtrucker77 is making a real effort to get back to everyone. If there truly becomes a need for specific mods to step in, don't worry—it would happen.

So, what’s the deal with the moderation over at LJES?
Are you even aware that you would have received three times as many warnings if the moderation there were more active or stricter? It isn’t that you didn't deserve them, per se. Every time you start an on-topic discussion, you somehow end up veering off into something completely irrelevant. You demonstrate this pattern with every single post you make. So, I suppose you don't really have much ground to stand on when complaining that September was unfair with those warnings. I mean, how could any of this possibly be considered on-topic? What was the actual subject of that thread?

She completely shut me down because:

I guess I mentioned earlier that, according to my horoscope, I'm a Libra.
I asked one of the ladies on the forum how she did her hair color.
velvettiger10 wrote that I don't like fighting.

Then again, you’re bringing up the Recreation forum and all its issues, even though you’ve never actually set foot in there. Why bother? Sure, things weren't perfect, but the problem wasn't with the moderator, Lyl—it was an absolute infestation of trolls and spammers. You aren't really clued in on the situation, yet you're still sticking your nose in.

I have no interest in debating this. Slafk.I’ve already said that.
I laid out my problem quite clearly. Was it really that complicated?

And you're just another problem. You really didn't need to hand out that yellow card. Honestly, it felt like pure spite—you did it just because you could. I wasn't even going to bring it up. But then you had to show up just to provoke me.

So, now the moderators are actually showing up in the women's corner? They certainly weren't here before.

And as for LJES? You don't have any idea how much I actually deserved it—or how much I didn't.

And what about how rushed the moderators are? You’re proving that point all over again. I really didn't want to bring this up, but since you're insisting... look at the thread they just opened. Feeling depressed.A few other forum regulars were hanging around, myself included. Val We were all participating here. You just wiped her out without a second thought.

Another forum regular is back at it again. It’s about me, not you. It's about me. He slid into my DMs asking about the topic. I just told him straight: it’s been deleted. He can either start a new thread or actually do some digging through the forum—there are plenty of similar discussions already out there.

Couldn't you have just merged that with the existing thread?

So you just deleted it. Just like that, because you could.

It wasn't just a chat room. There were actually some constructive posts in there too.

And what about Recreation? I was reading through the PŽK and... Kyle King4 Welcome to the banned corner.

And if you actually bother to read through this thread, you'll see the post from... PlaylifeAnd who exactly is bringing up Recreation? There are a few other users on this same thread mentioning Recreation, too. Maybe try reading a little more closely? Just so you know!

I’m not the only one pointing out these issues. This thread isn't about me—it's about this forum and its moderators.

Sorry, but I really have to weigh in here.
There’s been an issue—not even caused by trolls or spammers (which, for the record, I am neither)—but specifically regarding Lyl's urge to be rude, arrogant, and toss around insults and medical diagnoses like she’s some kind of specialist.
Thank God the mods can actually see the posts your colleague wrote before they were scrubbed once the PŽK staff realized she had completely messed things up.

No matter how much you try to justify her behavior—sorry, but honestly, it just doesn't fly with me.😉

Look, there are great mods, sure. But there are also absolute disasters...
At least admit that the quality of the sub-forum depends entirely on the quality of its moderators.🤷

Edit: Just consider the difference between the average user staring at a ban thread for days begging for an explanation, versus Steven Ruiz's private little parties. I still remember when Pec used to hand out much harsher penalties—like slapping colleagues with a 30-point deduction just for chatting in the corner.😉
Short and sweet: I don't care... I know life isn't perfect and I have no intention of losing sleep over a forum, but it’s shameful when the mods behave worse than the users. They are supposed to be the gold standard for discussion, not the subject of these arguments.

reddriver35 said:I have no interest in debating this. Slafk.I’ve already said that.
I laid out my problem quite clearly. Was it really that complicated?

And you're just another problem. You really didn't need to hand out that yellow card. Honestly, it felt like pure spite—you did it just because you could. I wasn't even going to bring it up. But then you had to show up just to provoke me.

So, now the moderators are actually showing up in the women's corner? They certainly weren't here before.

And as for LJES? You don't have any idea how much I actually deserved it—or how much I didn't.

And what about how rushed the moderators are? You’re proving that point all over again. I really didn't want to bring this up, but since you're insisting... look at the thread they just opened. Feeling depressed.A few other forum regulars were hanging around, myself included. Val We were all participating here. You just wiped her out without a second thought.

Another forum regular is back at it again. It’s about me, not you. It's about me. He slid into my DMs asking about the topic. I just told him straight: it’s been deleted. He can either start a new thread or actually do some digging through the forum—there are plenty of similar discussions already out there.

Couldn't you have just merged that with the existing thread?

So you just deleted it. Just like that, because you could.

It wasn't just a chat room. There were actually some constructive posts in there too.

And what about Recreation? I was reading through the PŽK and... Kyle King4 Welcome to the banned corner.

And if you actually bother to read through this thread, you'll see the post from... PlaylifeAnd who exactly is bringing up Recreation? There are a few other users on this same thread mentioning Recreation, too. Maybe try reading a little more closely? Just so you know!

I’m not the only one pointing out these issues. This thread isn't about me—it's about this forum and its moderators.

I already told you that you should be grateful we haven't banned you from the sub-forum's main chat yet. But honestly, we are getting tired of this. There is a small group of you who are persistently rude, and warnings clearly mean nothing to you.

Regarding the deleted thread, as I already stated in the chat, I realize you all think it's fun to mess around with trolls, but for heaven's sake, we are moderators, and our job is to maintain order. Depresivni already has 15 identical threads, and he doesn't need another one. Not to mention he wrote only one sentence in the opening post, which makes it highly likely he's just trolling.

Why are you even inserting yourself into this when you aren't involved? I ask you again.

As for Recreation, I have been posting there since 2007, so I understand how things work better than you do. I know exactly how it all started; I was still active there back then.

And I did not come here to provoke anyone. Don't be disrespectful.

Why are you being so defensive? 😲
Fine, if you want to call me depressed, go ahead. A troll, I guess. It wasn't some depressed guy who messaged me, but some other poser who was posting in this thread. I wasn't here to be entertained. Like I said, I just posted a few constructive comments. I had no idea he was a troll.

Regarding recreation, let me repeat: that question was already brought up in this very same thread! I'm not twisting anything; I simply told the people mentioning recreation to explain their issues right here.

Again, regarding recreation, I only know as much as I've read on this subforum.

And finally, why are you so obsessed with attacking me?

reddriver35 said:Why are you being so defensive? 😲
Fine, if you want to call me depressed, go ahead. A troll, I guess. It wasn't some depressed guy who messaged me, but some other poser who was posting in this thread. I wasn't here to be entertained. Like I said, I just posted a few constructive comments. I had no idea he was a troll.

Regarding recreation, let me repeat: that question was already brought up in this very same thread! I'm not twisting anything; I simply told the people mentioning recreation to explain their issues right here.

Again, regarding recreation, I only know as much as I've read on this subforum.

And finally, why are you so obsessed with attacking me?

You claim I'm attacking you, yet you're telling me that I'm the problem and that I'm acting out because I deleted some troll's thread? 😕 Which, by the way, you weren't even aware of, so you're just talking nonsense.
I can see this conversation isn't going anywhere, so I'll just wish you well.

Anonymous said:Hands down, yes.

If one of your buddies had started a similar thread, you wouldn't be here dropping facepalms.

This whole discussion is a perfect example of why on this forum, it’s about WHO is posting, not WHAT they're saying.

yeah, well 👍

Steven Reed said:Sorry, but I really have to weigh in here.
There’s been an issue—not even caused by trolls or spammers (which, for the record, I am neither)—but specifically regarding Lyl's urge to be rude, arrogant, and toss around insults and medical diagnoses like she’s some kind of specialist.
Thank God the mods can actually see the posts your colleague wrote before they were scrubbed once the PŽK staff realized she had completely messed things up.

No matter how much you try to justify her behavior—sorry, but honestly, it just doesn't fly with me.😉

Look, there are great mods, sure. But there are also absolute disasters...
At least admit that the quality of the sub-forum depends entirely on the quality of its moderators.🤷

Edit: Just consider the difference between the average user staring at a ban thread for days begging for an explanation, versus Steven Ruiz's private little parties. I still remember when Pec used to hand out much harsher penalties—like slapping colleagues with a 30-point deduction just for chatting in the corner.😉
Short and sweet: I don't care... I know life isn't perfect and I have no intention of losing sleep over a forum, but it’s shameful when the mods behave worse than the users. They are supposed to be the gold standard for discussion, not the subject of these arguments.

ugh

just go light a cigarette already 🙂 😁

I don't know whether to send a PM or just say it publicly here, reddriver35. I know you mean well, but I really hate it when people speak for me. Especially when I'm not even banned. I'm not some little kid from the suburbs mentioned in the opening post.😁

edit - and yeah, it's painfully obvious that this entire topic is just a product of your frustration over how you were treated in the women's corner.