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It's time to replace the Stinger!

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Michael Lee4 Michael Lee4 Regular
421 messages
joined Oct 2009
#181 ·
Anthony Lopez5 said:Of course—that’s exactly what I expected to hear from you.

Oh, sure—you were probably the one holding his bag for him. My bad...

I saw why User was banned. Some random person reported him for harassment, claiming some kind of mental distress that had absolutely nothing to do with her or anything he actually posted to her.

And of course, we all take your word for it when you say Drocca has your back. I assume he’ll do more than just that—he'll probably organize massive protests in Times Square to make sure you stay right where the mod left you. And naturally, Stinger will get a tattoo on his chest as a sign of support. 🙄

Of course the poll means nothing to you. You were probably expecting maybe four or five votes for your shift, not twenty-something in just a few hours.
The issue is really just your mindset and how you process things. Or rather, how you don't.

It's pretty obvious—you only accept anything from the old guard if it agrees with you; anything else is worthless in your eyes.

Regarding that last sentence, there's an old saying: "One day I realized the whole world was wrong and I was the only one right, so I stopped and took a second to rethink everything..."

Personally, I don't think you're ever going to stop and rethink.

I have zero skin in this game... you asked, I answered, and there's nothing else to add. One thing is certain: I don't lie.

User banned himself. He knows he said something nasty to that girl that he shouldn't have. That happened before I even stepped in as a mod. He was banned later because he *had* to be banned... everything else I said about the situation stands. If you don't want to believe me, what am I supposed to do? 🤷

Anthony Lopez5 said:Of course—that’s exactly what I expected to hear from you.

Oh, sure—you were probably the one holding his bag for him. My bad...

I saw why User was banned. Some random person reported him for harassment, claiming some kind of mental distress that had absolutely nothing to do with her or anything he actually posted to her.

And of course, we all take your word for it when you say Drocca has your back. I assume he’ll do more than just that—he'll probably organize massive protests in Times Square to make sure you stay right where the mod left you. And naturally, Stinger will get a tattoo on his chest as a sign of support. 🙄

Of course the poll means nothing to you. You were probably expecting maybe four or five votes for your shift, not twenty-something in just a few hours.
The issue is really just your mindset and how you process things. Or rather, how you don't.

It's pretty obvious—you only accept anything from the old guard if it agrees with you; anything else is worthless in your eyes.

Regarding that last sentence, there's an old saying: "One day I realized the whole world was wrong and I was the only one right, so I stopped and took a second to rethink everything..."

Personally, I don't think you're ever going to stop and rethink.

If I expected what you're saying, I wouldn't have said it was worthless in my other post. It's obvious to anyone with half a brain that some people are just pushing an agenda...

As part of the old guard, I accept everything, not just one side... I don't know what's not clear here...

And I don't know how else to explain everything I've already said... basically, you either don't believe me or you twist my words. Sorry, but I can't help you... Maybe it'll help you that you claimed my avatar defines who I am. Personally, I'd be embarrassed to think that, let alone post it on a forum for people to read. But hey, we aren't all the same. 🤷
Dennis Carter9 Dennis Carter9 Member
39 messages
joined Oct 2009
#182 ·
Anthony Lopez5 said:Come on, man, just let Grace Turner be at peace for now—mmmkay?

Can't do it, bro. It would be totally unfair to Michael Lee4...
Dennis Carter9 Dennis Carter9 Member
39 messages
joined Oct 2009
#183 ·
No matter how I try to pull up the poll, it's just gone. Does anyone know who deleted it?🙂>
Michael Lee4 Michael Lee4 Regular
421 messages
joined Oct 2009
#184 ·
Nicholas Nguyen2 said:A virtual coup, haha 😂🤣😂

Alright, here's a serious question... why won't you give Michael Lee4 his own chat topic, especially since everyone's already crying about him? Is it against the Reddit rules or something?

Maybe try actually reading what was already said before jumping into the debate. There's plenty of chat space in the off-topic section if you want it. The reasons why we don't have one here were laid out a few posts ago... basically, having one here is a terrible idea.
Dennis Carter9 Dennis Carter9 Member
39 messages
joined Oct 2009
#185 ·
Maybe it’s finally time for me to say goodbye to all of you. While you guys are busy obsessing over a VW Polo, a bunch of idiots are out here deleting things that have nothing to do with the topic at hand... You never know what's coming...
Michael Lee4 Michael Lee4 Regular
421 messages
joined Oct 2009
#186 ·
Dennis Carter9 said:Maybe it’s finally time for me to say goodbye to all of you. While you guys are busy obsessing over a VW Polo, a bunch of idiots are out here deleting things that have nothing to do with the topic at hand... You never know what's coming...

You said the exact same thing 3.5 hours ago... maybe once you chill out tomorrow, read back through everything you've posted here and actually ask yourself something. 😉
silenteagle28 silenteagle28 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Oct 2009
#187 ·
I just scrolled through that thread about the lady looking at the Ka, the 500, or an Ypsilon, and honestly, some of this is just baffling to me. There’s one user attacking Michael Lee4 because he called the Fiat 500 a "classic little cruiser," claiming there's absolutely no connection between that car and the label. While technically true, good grief—it’s like getting yelled at just because someone calls a VW New Beetle a "bug." It’s such a trivial, pointless nitpick that I don't even see why anyone would bother thinking about it, let alone writing a whole post about it. I can only imagine the mods have to deal with this kind of nonsense on a daily basis.

Now, I’m not trying to play devil's advocate for anyone here; I’m just trying to see things from their perspective.

I don't know, there was a time when I was on Reddit every single day, posting constantly. I actually made a really great friend through it all! But nowadays, I feel like I can predict exactly who is going to say what and what they’re going to bicker about before they even type it. To be honest, I regret even jumping into this discussion because it just proves how much the quality of topics has tanked lately. I truly miss the old days of the forum. It's such a shame...
Anthony Lopez5 Anthony Lopez5 Member
23 messages
joined Jan 2011
#188 ·
Michael Lee4 said:I have zero skin in this game... you asked, I answered, and there's nothing else to add. One thing is certain: I don't lie.

User banned himself. He knows he said something nasty to that girl that he shouldn't have. That happened before I even stepped in as a mod. He was banned later because he *had* to be banned... everything else I said about the situation stands. If you don't want to believe me, what am I supposed to do? 🤷

If I expected what you're saying, I wouldn't have said it was worthless in my other post. It's obvious to anyone with half a brain that some people are just pushing an agenda...

As part of the old guard, I accept everything, not just one side... I don't know what's not clear here...

And I don't know how else to explain everything I've already said... basically, you either don't believe me or you twist my words. Sorry, but I can't help you... Maybe it'll help you that you claimed my avatar defines who I am. Personally, I'd be embarrassed to think that, let alone post it on a forum for people to read. But hey, we aren't all the same. 🤷

And Clinton didn't screw Lewinsky—it was just oral...☕

Michael Lee4 said:I have zero skin in this game... you asked, I answered, and there's nothing else to add. One thing is certain: I don't lie.

User banned himself. He knows he said something nasty to that girl that he shouldn't have. That happened before I even stepped in as a mod. He was banned later because he *had* to be banned... everything else I said about the situation stands. If you don't want to believe me, what am I supposed to do? 🤷

If I expected what you're saying, I wouldn't have said it was worthless in my other post. It's obvious to anyone with half a brain that some people are just pushing an agenda...

As part of the old guard, I accept everything, not just one side... I don't know what's not clear here...

And I don't know how else to explain everything I've already said... basically, you either don't believe me or you twist my words. Sorry, but I can't help you... Maybe it'll help you that you claimed my avatar defines who I am. Personally, I'd be embarrassed to think that, let alone post it on a forum for people to read. But hey, we aren't all the same. 🤷

The fact is, your actions on PF speak louder than your words, so you have no one to blame for not having my trust

Michael Lee4 said:I have zero skin in this game... you asked, I answered, and there's nothing else to add. One thing is certain: I don't lie.

User banned himself. He knows he said something nasty to that girl that he shouldn't have. That happened before I even stepped in as a mod. He was banned later because he *had* to be banned... everything else I said about the situation stands. If you don't want to believe me, what am I supposed to do? 🤷

If I expected what you're saying, I wouldn't have said it was worthless in my other post. It's obvious to anyone with half a brain that some people are just pushing an agenda...

As part of the old guard, I accept everything, not just one side... I don't know what's not clear here...

And I don't know how else to explain everything I've already said... basically, you either don't believe me or you twist my words. Sorry, but I can't help you... Maybe it'll help you that you claimed my avatar defines who I am. Personally, I'd be embarrassed to think that, let alone post it on a forum for people to read. But hey, we aren't all the same. 🤷

You're too smart to be this blunt right away, and of course, you won't miss the chance to call me an idiot wrapped in cellophane with a little bow...

Michael Lee4 said:I have zero skin in this game... you asked, I answered, and there's nothing else to add. One thing is certain: I don't lie.

User banned himself. He knows he said something nasty to that girl that he shouldn't have. That happened before I even stepped in as a mod. He was banned later because he *had* to be banned... everything else I said about the situation stands. If you don't want to believe me, what am I supposed to do? 🤷

If I expected what you're saying, I wouldn't have said it was worthless in my other post. It's obvious to anyone with half a brain that some people are just pushing an agenda...

As part of the old guard, I accept everything, not just one side... I don't know what's not clear here...

And I don't know how else to explain everything I've already said... basically, you either don't believe me or you twist my words. Sorry, but I can't help you... Maybe it'll help you that you claimed my avatar defines who I am. Personally, I'd be embarrassed to think that, let alone post it on a forum for people to read. But hey, we aren't all the same. 🤷

It's perfectly clear; you're just still blowing a horn that nobody is listening to...

Michael Lee4 said:I have zero skin in this game... you asked, I answered, and there's nothing else to add. One thing is certain: I don't lie.

User banned himself. He knows he said something nasty to that girl that he shouldn't have. That happened before I even stepped in as a mod. He was banned later because he *had* to be banned... everything else I said about the situation stands. If you don't want to believe me, what am I supposed to do? 🤷

If I expected what you're saying, I wouldn't have said it was worthless in my other post. It's obvious to anyone with half a brain that some people are just pushing an agenda...

As part of the old guard, I accept everything, not just one side... I don't know what's not clear here...

And I don't know how else to explain everything I've already said... basically, you either don't believe me or you twist my words. Sorry, but I can't help you... Maybe it'll help you that you claimed my avatar defines who I am. Personally, I'd be embarrassed to think that, let alone post it on a forum for people to read. But hey, we aren't all the same. 🤷

I've already become a walking proverb to you 😉
Timothy Morgan38 Timothy Morgan38 Active Member
177 messages
joined Mar 2010
#189 ·
mellowotter3 said:Oh, is that how it works now?

So the guy just shows up and has to endure all this nonsense, while this other user, who's been lurking here 24/7 for five years, can just... what? Spit venom and vent bitterness whenever they feel like it?
🤣Go read yourself before you post. 🤣🤣🤣🙏

👍

Maybe try actually reading the material before you start posting... seriously... some people really need to be taught how to draw a straight line...

Try to wrap your head around this one: HOW ON EARTH can someone with only two posts be so easily triggered by a topic they were actually participating in themselves... 2 An insult??? Unless we're talking about a personal attack...

Or maybe we’re just dealing with someone who’s mentally unstable... someone so deeply offended and triggered that they felt absolutely COMPELLED to register on this forum just to have a platform to insult a member who simply dared to write something they didn't like...

In RL, it would go down like this: you and your buddies are hanging out at some pub, deep in conversation about some car... acting like you've collectively mastered all the wisdom in the universe... and then suddenly, some random guy who isn't even part of the group walks up out of nowhere and just starts tearing you apart, insulting you, calling everyone monkeys and whatnot... what exactly would you do in a situation like that???

Maybe there’s actually some truth to the idea that it hits different when you're being lied to by someone you've known for years... versus just some random stranger dropping out of the sky mid-sentence...

Could you maybe make that a little clearer...?
Dennis Carter9 Dennis Carter9 Member
39 messages
joined Oct 2009
#190 ·
Michael Lee4 said:You said the exact same thing 3.5 hours ago... maybe once you chill out tomorrow, read back through everything you've posted here and actually ask yourself something. 😉

Don't worry, just look at what's actually being said here rationally. Aside from the noise from User and Casey Hernandez63... there's nothing else. People always log on just to panic. And hey, sorry about the CAPS LOCK, and hope you and Grace Turner aren't holding a grudge...
Dennis Carter9 Dennis Carter9 Member
39 messages
joined Oct 2009
#191 ·
VTi
Look, try to wrap your head around this: HOW ON EARTH CAN SOMEONE WITH ONLY 2 POSTS EVEN GET TRIGGERED BY A TOPIC THEY WERE ALREADY INVOLVED IN WITH THEIR OWN [B
says:
2 [/B]POSTS??? UNLESS IT'S A PERSONAL INSULT???

It’s possible, bro, if the person is actually a real user and not just some duplicate or triplicate account, which seems pretty likely here...
Michael Lee4 Michael Lee4 Regular
421 messages
joined Oct 2009
#192 ·
Anthony Lopez5 said:And Clinton didn't screw Lewinsky—it was just oral...☕

The fact is, your actions on PF speak louder than your words, so you have no one to blame for not having my trust

You're too smart to be this blunt right away, and of course, you won't miss the chance to call me an idiot wrapped in cellophane with a little bow...

It's perfectly clear; you're just still blowing a horn that nobody is listening to...

I've already become a walking proverb to you 😉

I could return the compliment. Honestly, I’d be disappointed if you weren't like this...

As for the proverb, I agree. Hopefully one day you'll finally wake up and realize how wrong you've been.

Timothy Morgan38, don't even bother... your post count and everything you've written says it all. Just someone's clone, but I can't even be bothered to check...
Timothy Morgan38 Timothy Morgan38 Active Member
177 messages
joined Mar 2010
#193 ·
Dennis Carter9 said:
VTi
Look, try to wrap your head around this: HOW ON EARTH CAN SOMEONE WITH ONLY 2 POSTS EVEN GET TRIGGERED BY A TOPIC THEY WERE ALREADY INVOLVED IN WITH THEIR OWN [B
says:
2 [/B]POSTS??? UNLESS IT'S A PERSONAL INSULT???

It’s possible, bro, if the person is actually a real user and not just some duplicate or triplicate account, which seems pretty likely here...

It can happen, but only if their specific post actually triggered the reaction...

Everything really comes down to how much personal class and basic upbringing someone actually has... because you're supposed to carry yourself online the same way you do in RL... if you're the new guy, you simply can't be the loudest person in the room. It's tacky, it's aggressive... just be composed and move on...

But some people just can't grasp that they aren't some divine gift to humanity... and that the rest of us didn't all drop to our knees in worship just because some "emperor" decided to register an account...
Noah Davis2 Noah Davis2 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Oct 2009
#194 ·
Michael Lee4? It’s actually quite fascinating what you choose to identify with... your username and that avatar say more about your personality and how you carry yourself than you probably realize, and I know that because I’ve watched this kind of character in TV shows so many times thinking they weren't real, yet here you are, proving me wrong...
The guy from that show is absolutely loathsome to me...

Judging by the comments and the experiences shared by the decent folks on Reddit, it seems a lot of them have watched that same show and have dealt with this exact type of behavior right here on this forum...

But if this truly is who you are, then I can't help but wonder about whoever put you in a moderator position, allowing you to enforce your own will and project your own frustrations onto everyone else just so you don't have to be miserable all by yourself...
For everyone's sake, please just step away from this job, or this little "hobby" of yours where you torment and irritate others, because no matter how hard you try to prove you're right, you're really just sinking deeper, since every attempt at self-justification only leads to a few more dissatisfied posts from users that I find myself agreeing with...

So, to put it simply and clearly, with all due respect...
GET THE HELL AWAY FROM US!!!

Always a lady...🙂

Let's see how long this post actually stays up...😉
Tyler Patel19 Tyler Patel19 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Oct 2009
#195 ·
Man, seriously, this whole soap opera is still dragging on... honestly, you guys are picking at it more than some tabloid reporter camping out in front of Dolores Lambaša's house 😂
mellowotter3 mellowotter3 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Oct 2009
#196 ·
@Timothy Morgan38

It's a fifty-fifty split; some parts work, others don't.

First off, you can't compare forum dynamics to RL.
Because with the kind of nonsense happening in RL, someone would have already lost their mind.👍>

As for anyone else, why do you think an unregistered user can only read?
I can't trigger any chaos when people are looking for actual answers or advice, but instead, they get a bunch of old-timers talking about fuel economy in winter conditions—even though they've never seen the car in person, let alone owned one.👍

Maybe... but most likely, you are. You're thinking it, you just aren't articulating it correctly.
Michael Lee4 Michael Lee4 Regular
421 messages
joined Oct 2009
#197 ·
Noah Davis2 said:Michael Lee4? It’s actually quite fascinating what you choose to identify with... your username and that avatar say more about your personality and how you carry yourself than you probably realize, and I know that because I’ve watched this kind of character in TV shows so many times thinking they weren't real, yet here you are, proving me wrong...
The guy from that show is absolutely loathsome to me...

Judging by the comments and the experiences shared by the decent folks on Reddit, it seems a lot of them have watched that same show and have dealt with this exact type of behavior right here on this forum...

But if this truly is who you are, then I can't help but wonder about whoever put you in a moderator position, allowing you to enforce your own will and project your own frustrations onto everyone else just so you don't have to be miserable all by yourself...
For everyone's sake, please just step away from this job, or this little "hobby" of yours where you torment and irritate others, because no matter how hard you try to prove you're right, you're really just sinking deeper, since every attempt at self-justification only leads to a few more dissatisfied posts from users that I find myself agreeing with...

So, to put it simply and clearly, with all due respect...
GET THE HELL AWAY FROM US!!!

Always a lady...🙂

Let's see how long this post actually stays up...😉

Forever... just like your first post about new models and my response to it, or that one on the Honda forum where you claimed you were only coming here to stir the pot.

Regarding the show, I only said the guy is a phenomenal actor just like the series itself... idiots are taking it personally.
mellowotter3 mellowotter3 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Oct 2009
#198 ·
Tyler Patel19 said:Man, seriously, this whole soap opera is still dragging on... honestly, you guys are picking at it more than some tabloid reporter camping out in front of Dolores Lambaša's house 😂

Welcome. Glad you could make it. 🙏
Timothy Morgan38 Timothy Morgan38 Active Member
177 messages
joined Mar 2010
#199 ·
It’s fifty-fifty, really. Some stuff holds water, some doesn't...

First off, you can't compare forum drama to IRL situations, period...
Because with the kind of nonsense happening here, in the real world, someone would have already lost their mind... 👍

But that’s exactly the point... everyone acts like a hero online, but in IRL, they're smaller than a grain of sand... I could probably list half the people in this thread alone... so loud on the forum, but the second they actually have to speak up publicly, they start stuttering...

See, on a forum, thank God there's this buffer where you don't have to respond instantly. You get to sit there and craft the most brutal insult possible without any fear... but in IRL, your first thought is whether you're going to get punched in the face if you say the wrong thing... plus, in the real world, it's pretty easy to tell who's full of it and who's just being played...

You shouldn't compare IRL and the forum in a literal sense, but it would be nice if people on the forum behaved the way they normally should in real life...

Otherwise, why do you think someone who isn't even a registered user can still participate just by reading?
I can't trigger all this garbage when a person is looking for actual answers or advice, yet the old guard just ignores them and keeps rambling about how much gas they use in the winter, even though they've never seen the car in person, let alone owned one... 👍

I know I can be provocative, but NOT TO THE EXTENT OF INSULTING SOMEONE... unless we're talking about a totally mentally unstable person who can't handle the fact that other people exist in the world besides themselves...
Anthony Lopez5 Anthony Lopez5 Member
23 messages
joined Jan 2011
#200 ·
Michael Lee4 said:I could return the compliment. Honestly, I’d be disappointed if you weren't like this...

As for the proverb, I agree. Hopefully one day you'll finally wake up and realize how wrong you've been.

Timothy Morgan38, don't even bother... your post count and everything you've written says it all. Just someone's clone, but I can't even be bothered to check...

We can go in circles all we want, but some facts don't change.

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