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rowdyhawk10 said:1. I'm not ignoring the forum; you are. I am still posting here.

2. It should be perfectly clear to you (and to Dervish too) that users have every right to complain when they feel wronged by unfair moderation. After all, there is an entire subforum dedicated to this, right here: Complaints and Grievances isn't there?

3. Because of that, you didn't need to boycott the Religion section (which feels like a childish tantrum); you could have just kept posting while simultaneously putting pressure on the complaints section regarding my mistakes. Nobody ever stopped you from doing that.

4. Furthermore, the administration isn't blind to moderator injustice when it happens. They might be slow sometimes, but they do step in frequently to correct us moderators, and occasionally even replace us. So, this behavior seems to me like nothing more than the kind of tantrum you'd see in a preschool.

5. Looking at those four points, it’s pretty obvious—you guys have likely run out of ideas. The weight of responsibility has exhausted you. It's hard to endure having to tell someone they are a spiritual killer of their child, or a sinner, or a homosexual. Perhaps you were just intimidated by the proximity and brightness of success, now that people are actually starting to love Islam.

6. I don't find anyone's boycott joyful, and I actually feel bad about all this. But I imagine you and a few other lobbyists (like Jason) are certainly enjoying this and getting a bit carried away... otherwise, you wouldn't be doing this, and you would realize that Islam is more important than any single individual, even if the person in the moderator seat were Yazid himself. There have been those who dealt with him and still came out proud.

Therefore, Scott Nguyen2, you are only here for one reason—to lobby, as Bradley Davis33 put it in a gentler way—for a specific clique. And here is why:

7. YOU are boycotting the forum for a completely irrelevant reason because you aren't even complaining about anything where my moderation personally affected you! Have you ever been personally wronged here? Has my moderation ever caused you injustice? Of course not. If it has, tell me when and where (though you won't; you'll probably just moan about how "it hurts to see injustice toward the brothers, so you feel obligated...").

8. This is quite important: you are just like the others lobbying here. In fact, it’s becoming almost tragicomic. Just as you are lobbying for members of the "modern Salafi movement," like this little crony here , Dervish is complaining about the FMN forum users—then Kenneth Peterson5 complains about the Black-white group that likes to post in Sandjak cities—then boldgull19 complains about Dervish (my apologies to him, if he cares, for mentioning it). Yet none of them can point to a single instance where my moderation personally inflicted injustice upon them! How is that possible?

That's all I have to say, and I am definitely stepping out of this thread, unless one of the admins decides to step in. You all feel free to continue in unison... as far as I'm concerned, I'm done with this topic. I'm just sorry that Jack Wood43 hasn't joined in yet to tell me I'm a homosexual, just so the group feels complete.. 👋



Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

Hey, moon's here on Earth! Moon, give us a shout!
We aren't even really posting on the forum, we're just here watching you write.
When I say "us," I’m talking about: Musliman.hr, Adura, sjena, Kobi, Kate Phillips40, Kenneth Peterson5, domaćica, Rufaija, brezovka, FMN, InsanInside, and me.
Do you realize you've managed to rally twelve different forum members against yourself and the whole site?
You really chased away the leaders... and everyone else who would've been on our side.
Do you realize that the number of people boycotting you is just going to keep growing?
Do you realize we’re all on one side here and you're just out there on your own?
Do you realize that eventually even the admin team is going to turn their backs on you? The pdf religija is tanking because of how you handle moderation.
Try to look at the bigger picture for a second... Adura said it perfectly when he mentioned that God gave us this perspective so we can see things differently than they actually appear.
Sometimes God lets things slide just to let someone walk right into their own downfall without even realizing it.

rowdyhawk10 said:1. I'm not ignoring the forum; you are. I am still posting here.

2. It should be perfectly clear to you (and to Dervish too) that users have every right to complain when they feel wronged by unfair moderation. After all, there is an entire subforum dedicated to this, right here: Complaints and Grievances isn't there?

3. Because of that, you didn't need to boycott the Religion section (which feels like a childish tantrum); you could have just kept posting while simultaneously putting pressure on the complaints section regarding my mistakes. Nobody ever stopped you from doing that.

4. Furthermore, the administration isn't blind to moderator injustice when it happens. They might be slow sometimes, but they do step in frequently to correct us moderators, and occasionally even replace us. So, this behavior seems to me like nothing more than the kind of tantrum you'd see in a preschool.

5. Looking at those four points, it’s pretty obvious—you guys have likely run out of ideas. The weight of responsibility has exhausted you. It's hard to endure having to tell someone they are a spiritual killer of their child, or a sinner, or a homosexual. Perhaps you were just intimidated by the proximity and brightness of success, now that people are actually starting to love Islam.

6. I don't find anyone's boycott joyful, and I actually feel bad about all this. But I imagine you and a few other lobbyists (like Jason) are certainly enjoying this and getting a bit carried away... otherwise, you wouldn't be doing this, and you would realize that Islam is more important than any single individual, even if the person in the moderator seat were Yazid himself. There have been those who dealt with him and still came out proud.

Therefore, Scott Nguyen2, you are only here for one reason—to lobby, as Bradley Davis33 put it in a gentler way—for a specific clique. And here is why:

7. YOU are boycotting the forum for a completely irrelevant reason because you aren't even complaining about anything where my moderation personally affected you! Have you ever been personally wronged here? Has my moderation ever caused you injustice? Of course not. If it has, tell me when and where (though you won't; you'll probably just moan about how "it hurts to see injustice toward the brothers, so you feel obligated...").

8. This is quite important: you are just like the others lobbying here. In fact, it’s becoming almost tragicomic. Just as you are lobbying for members of the "modern Salafi movement," like this little crony here , Dervish is complaining about the FMN forum users—then Kenneth Peterson5 complains about the Black-white group that likes to post in Sandjak cities—then boldgull19 complains about Dervish (my apologies to him, if he cares, for mentioning it). Yet none of them can point to a single instance where my moderation personally inflicted injustice upon them! How is that possible?

That's all I have to say, and I am definitely stepping out of this thread, unless one of the admins decides to step in. You all feel free to continue in unison... as far as I'm concerned, I'm done with this topic. I'm just sorry that Jack Wood43 hasn't joined in yet to tell me I'm a homosexual, just so the group feels complete.. 👋



Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

You're talking about all those complaints that nobody even bothered to write a single word about.

Kobi: I can't believe I actually thought that was true! My bad, totally slipped my mind. Just a silly little mistake on my part.
Kate Phillips40: I can't believe how much things have changed lately. It feels like everything is moving so fast! Just trying to keep up, honestly.
fadedlynx39: I can't believe how much work I put into this! Honestly, I’m probably overthinking things, but I really hope you guys enjoy reading it. Let me know what you think!

Or just those totally baseless complaints, like:
Rufaija:
homemaker: I can't believe I actually found this! Honestly, such a wild read. Just had to share.

Yeah, you know... same old story.
Basically, dogs bark while the caravan just keeps moving.
And you're still throwing that complaint book in our faces like it's some kind of tool just to belittle us with those vague explanations of yours.

rowdyhawk10 said:1. I'm not ignoring the forum; you are. I am still posting here.

2. It should be perfectly clear to you (and to Dervish too) that users have every right to complain when they feel wronged by unfair moderation. After all, there is an entire subforum dedicated to this, right here: Complaints and Grievances isn't there?

3. Because of that, you didn't need to boycott the Religion section (which feels like a childish tantrum); you could have just kept posting while simultaneously putting pressure on the complaints section regarding my mistakes. Nobody ever stopped you from doing that.

4. Furthermore, the administration isn't blind to moderator injustice when it happens. They might be slow sometimes, but they do step in frequently to correct us moderators, and occasionally even replace us. So, this behavior seems to me like nothing more than the kind of tantrum you'd see in a preschool.

5. Looking at those four points, it’s pretty obvious—you guys have likely run out of ideas. The weight of responsibility has exhausted you. It's hard to endure having to tell someone they are a spiritual killer of their child, or a sinner, or a homosexual. Perhaps you were just intimidated by the proximity and brightness of success, now that people are actually starting to love Islam.

6. I don't find anyone's boycott joyful, and I actually feel bad about all this. But I imagine you and a few other lobbyists (like Jason) are certainly enjoying this and getting a bit carried away... otherwise, you wouldn't be doing this, and you would realize that Islam is more important than any single individual, even if the person in the moderator seat were Yazid himself. There have been those who dealt with him and still came out proud.

Therefore, Scott Nguyen2, you are only here for one reason—to lobby, as Bradley Davis33 put it in a gentler way—for a specific clique. And here is why:

7. YOU are boycotting the forum for a completely irrelevant reason because you aren't even complaining about anything where my moderation personally affected you! Have you ever been personally wronged here? Has my moderation ever caused you injustice? Of course not. If it has, tell me when and where (though you won't; you'll probably just moan about how "it hurts to see injustice toward the brothers, so you feel obligated...").

8. This is quite important: you are just like the others lobbying here. In fact, it’s becoming almost tragicomic. Just as you are lobbying for members of the "modern Salafi movement," like this little crony here , Dervish is complaining about the FMN forum users—then Kenneth Peterson5 complains about the Black-white group that likes to post in Sandjak cities—then boldgull19 complains about Dervish (my apologies to him, if he cares, for mentioning it). Yet none of them can point to a single instance where my moderation personally inflicted injustice upon them! How is that possible?

That's all I have to say, and I am definitely stepping out of this thread, unless one of the admins decides to step in. You all feel free to continue in unison... as far as I'm concerned, I'm done with this topic. I'm just sorry that Jack Wood43 hasn't joined in yet to tell me I'm a homosexual, just so the group feels complete.. 👋



Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

What religion? The one where Satanists thank an atheist Ego for keeping things orderly so believers don't get "attacked" by everyone else?
Are you really grouping atheism and Satanism with actual religions? It’s like an atheist trying to manage the pdf religija... as if the CEO of Pepsi was running Coca-Cola. No wonder Pepsi's struggling...
Do we even need to talk just so you have someone to hand out warnings to?
Go ahead, ban me tonight. That's about 1,000 points. Might give you enough peace to sleep for at least two days.
Are we chatting just so you can act like some grand vizier, filtering our posts and playing the role of the big shot supervisor?
People are literally cursing God and you're just sitting there silent hypocrite!
The way Musliman.hr tries to justify not taking action is just pathetic. Such a weak excuse. Seriously, yikes!
If we were actual Americans, rowdyhawk10, we would have penalized you for insulting anyone's sacred beliefs. That’s how much the admins back you up. Just like you told me once on private message that you were "in charge" of us...
Now you've got usernames like "total garbage sheep" floating around and you're staying quiet like a fish hypocrite

rowdyhawk10 said:1. I'm not ignoring the forum; you are. I am still posting here.

2. It should be perfectly clear to you (and to Dervish too) that users have every right to complain when they feel wronged by unfair moderation. After all, there is an entire subforum dedicated to this, right here: Complaints and Grievances isn't there?

3. Because of that, you didn't need to boycott the Religion section (which feels like a childish tantrum); you could have just kept posting while simultaneously putting pressure on the complaints section regarding my mistakes. Nobody ever stopped you from doing that.

4. Furthermore, the administration isn't blind to moderator injustice when it happens. They might be slow sometimes, but they do step in frequently to correct us moderators, and occasionally even replace us. So, this behavior seems to me like nothing more than the kind of tantrum you'd see in a preschool.

5. Looking at those four points, it’s pretty obvious—you guys have likely run out of ideas. The weight of responsibility has exhausted you. It's hard to endure having to tell someone they are a spiritual killer of their child, or a sinner, or a homosexual. Perhaps you were just intimidated by the proximity and brightness of success, now that people are actually starting to love Islam.

6. I don't find anyone's boycott joyful, and I actually feel bad about all this. But I imagine you and a few other lobbyists (like Jason) are certainly enjoying this and getting a bit carried away... otherwise, you wouldn't be doing this, and you would realize that Islam is more important than any single individual, even if the person in the moderator seat were Yazid himself. There have been those who dealt with him and still came out proud.

Therefore, Scott Nguyen2, you are only here for one reason—to lobby, as Bradley Davis33 put it in a gentler way—for a specific clique. And here is why:

7. YOU are boycotting the forum for a completely irrelevant reason because you aren't even complaining about anything where my moderation personally affected you! Have you ever been personally wronged here? Has my moderation ever caused you injustice? Of course not. If it has, tell me when and where (though you won't; you'll probably just moan about how "it hurts to see injustice toward the brothers, so you feel obligated...").

8. This is quite important: you are just like the others lobbying here. In fact, it’s becoming almost tragicomic. Just as you are lobbying for members of the "modern Salafi movement," like this little crony here , Dervish is complaining about the FMN forum users—then Kenneth Peterson5 complains about the Black-white group that likes to post in Sandjak cities—then boldgull19 complains about Dervish (my apologies to him, if he cares, for mentioning it). Yet none of them can point to a single instance where my moderation personally inflicted injustice upon them! How is that possible?

That's all I have to say, and I am definitely stepping out of this thread, unless one of the admins decides to step in. You all feel free to continue in unison... as far as I'm concerned, I'm done with this topic. I'm just sorry that Jack Wood43 hasn't joined in yet to tell me I'm a homosexual, just so the group feels complete.. 👋



Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

🤣🤣🤣
Should we expect a positive outcome around the year 2019 in the Islamic calendar?
A moderator being unfair? Really?
Listen, don't even think about saying something like that, let alone actually saying it...
That's such heresy... imagining a moderator could be unfair.
So now we're all just kids in a preschool?

rowdyhawk10 said:1. I'm not ignoring the forum; you are. I am still posting here.

2. It should be perfectly clear to you (and to Dervish too) that users have every right to complain when they feel wronged by unfair moderation. After all, there is an entire subforum dedicated to this, right here: Complaints and Grievances isn't there?

3. Because of that, you didn't need to boycott the Religion section (which feels like a childish tantrum); you could have just kept posting while simultaneously putting pressure on the complaints section regarding my mistakes. Nobody ever stopped you from doing that.

4. Furthermore, the administration isn't blind to moderator injustice when it happens. They might be slow sometimes, but they do step in frequently to correct us moderators, and occasionally even replace us. So, this behavior seems to me like nothing more than the kind of tantrum you'd see in a preschool.

5. Looking at those four points, it’s pretty obvious—you guys have likely run out of ideas. The weight of responsibility has exhausted you. It's hard to endure having to tell someone they are a spiritual killer of their child, or a sinner, or a homosexual. Perhaps you were just intimidated by the proximity and brightness of success, now that people are actually starting to love Islam.

6. I don't find anyone's boycott joyful, and I actually feel bad about all this. But I imagine you and a few other lobbyists (like Jason) are certainly enjoying this and getting a bit carried away... otherwise, you wouldn't be doing this, and you would realize that Islam is more important than any single individual, even if the person in the moderator seat were Yazid himself. There have been those who dealt with him and still came out proud.

Therefore, Scott Nguyen2, you are only here for one reason—to lobby, as Bradley Davis33 put it in a gentler way—for a specific clique. And here is why:

7. YOU are boycotting the forum for a completely irrelevant reason because you aren't even complaining about anything where my moderation personally affected you! Have you ever been personally wronged here? Has my moderation ever caused you injustice? Of course not. If it has, tell me when and where (though you won't; you'll probably just moan about how "it hurts to see injustice toward the brothers, so you feel obligated...").

8. This is quite important: you are just like the others lobbying here. In fact, it’s becoming almost tragicomic. Just as you are lobbying for members of the "modern Salafi movement," like this little crony here , Dervish is complaining about the FMN forum users—then Kenneth Peterson5 complains about the Black-white group that likes to post in Sandjak cities—then boldgull19 complains about Dervish (my apologies to him, if he cares, for mentioning it). Yet none of them can point to a single instance where my moderation personally inflicted injustice upon them! How is that possible?

That's all I have to say, and I am definitely stepping out of this thread, unless one of the admins decides to step in. You all feel free to continue in unison... as far as I'm concerned, I'm done with this topic. I'm just sorry that Jack Wood43 hasn't joined in yet to tell me I'm a homosexual, just so the group feels complete.. 👋



Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

Out of ideas, huh?
Well, maybe we are. But wait until you see my "ideas" when you face a lawsuit.
We wouldn't know anything about glory or success. That's reserved for the moderators. They clearly know how to carry the load. Regular folks like us? We couldn't handle it.
People starting to love Islam?
*Your* version of Islam?
The one where you basically greenlight everything people crave?
When are you going to start saying certain marriages are recommended, only to ban anyone who dares disagree? You got kicked out of those other groups for that exact attitude.
In your version of spreading the faith, you even allow people to curse God if it helps them "acknowledge" Him, just like you allowed the trash to pile up and then tried to explain it away to God later. It's intellectually bankrupt. And you honestly think anyone buys your excuses? Yeah, we're just kids in a preschool... we don't get your little intentions.
Honestly, this version of Islam you’re pushing—your specific take on it—is just hard to stomach. It’s honestly nauseating for everyone to deal with your "deep" interpretations. 🤮
I think I'm speaking for pretty much everyone here when I say this.

rowdyhawk10 said:1. I'm not ignoring the forum; you are. I am still posting here.

2. It should be perfectly clear to you (and to Dervish too) that users have every right to complain when they feel wronged by unfair moderation. After all, there is an entire subforum dedicated to this, right here: Complaints and Grievances isn't there?

3. Because of that, you didn't need to boycott the Religion section (which feels like a childish tantrum); you could have just kept posting while simultaneously putting pressure on the complaints section regarding my mistakes. Nobody ever stopped you from doing that.

4. Furthermore, the administration isn't blind to moderator injustice when it happens. They might be slow sometimes, but they do step in frequently to correct us moderators, and occasionally even replace us. So, this behavior seems to me like nothing more than the kind of tantrum you'd see in a preschool.

5. Looking at those four points, it’s pretty obvious—you guys have likely run out of ideas. The weight of responsibility has exhausted you. It's hard to endure having to tell someone they are a spiritual killer of their child, or a sinner, or a homosexual. Perhaps you were just intimidated by the proximity and brightness of success, now that people are actually starting to love Islam.

6. I don't find anyone's boycott joyful, and I actually feel bad about all this. But I imagine you and a few other lobbyists (like Jason) are certainly enjoying this and getting a bit carried away... otherwise, you wouldn't be doing this, and you would realize that Islam is more important than any single individual, even if the person in the moderator seat were Yazid himself. There have been those who dealt with him and still came out proud.

Therefore, Scott Nguyen2, you are only here for one reason—to lobby, as Bradley Davis33 put it in a gentler way—for a specific clique. And here is why:

7. YOU are boycotting the forum for a completely irrelevant reason because you aren't even complaining about anything where my moderation personally affected you! Have you ever been personally wronged here? Has my moderation ever caused you injustice? Of course not. If it has, tell me when and where (though you won't; you'll probably just moan about how "it hurts to see injustice toward the brothers, so you feel obligated...").

8. This is quite important: you are just like the others lobbying here. In fact, it’s becoming almost tragicomic. Just as you are lobbying for members of the "modern Salafi movement," like this little crony here , Dervish is complaining about the FMN forum users—then Kenneth Peterson5 complains about the Black-white group that likes to post in Sandjak cities—then boldgull19 complains about Dervish (my apologies to him, if he cares, for mentioning it). Yet none of them can point to a single instance where my moderation personally inflicted injustice upon them! How is that possible?

That's all I have to say, and I am definitely stepping out of this thread, unless one of the admins decides to step in. You all feel free to continue in unison... as far as I'm concerned, I'm done with this topic. I'm just sorry that Jack Wood43 hasn't joined in yet to tell me I'm a homosexual, just so the group feels complete.. 👋



Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

That "one person" you're talking about? That's YOU.
And bringing up Jezid as the ultimate example of terrible teaching is just... wow.
Instead of pointing to those who actually struggled with the Prophet, you pick Jezid, whom certain factions hate even more than the devil himself.
fadedlynx39 fadedlynx39 Newcomer
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#102 ·
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rowdyhawk10 said:1. I'm not ignoring the forum; you are. I am still posting here.

2. It should be perfectly clear to you (and to Dervish too) that users have every right to complain when they feel wronged by unfair moderation. After all, there is an entire subforum dedicated to this, right here: Complaints and Grievances isn't there?

3. Because of that, you didn't need to boycott the Religion section (which feels like a childish tantrum); you could have just kept posting while simultaneously putting pressure on the complaints section regarding my mistakes. Nobody ever stopped you from doing that.

4. Furthermore, the administration isn't blind to moderator injustice when it happens. They might be slow sometimes, but they do step in frequently to correct us moderators, and occasionally even replace us. So, this behavior seems to me like nothing more than the kind of tantrum you'd see in a preschool.

5. Looking at those four points, it’s pretty obvious—you guys have likely run out of ideas. The weight of responsibility has exhausted you. It's hard to endure having to tell someone they are a spiritual killer of their child, or a sinner, or a homosexual. Perhaps you were just intimidated by the proximity and brightness of success, now that people are actually starting to love Islam.

6. I don't find anyone's boycott joyful, and I actually feel bad about all this. But I imagine you and a few other lobbyists (like Jason) are certainly enjoying this and getting a bit carried away... otherwise, you wouldn't be doing this, and you would realize that Islam is more important than any single individual, even if the person in the moderator seat were Yazid himself. There have been those who dealt with him and still came out proud.

Therefore, Scott Nguyen2, you are only here for one reason—to lobby, as Bradley Davis33 put it in a gentler way—for a specific clique. And here is why:

7. YOU are boycotting the forum for a completely irrelevant reason because you aren't even complaining about anything where my moderation personally affected you! Have you ever been personally wronged here? Has my moderation ever caused you injustice? Of course not. If it has, tell me when and where (though you won't; you'll probably just moan about how "it hurts to see injustice toward the brothers, so you feel obligated...").

8. This is quite important: you are just like the others lobbying here. In fact, it’s becoming almost tragicomic. Just as you are lobbying for members of the "modern Salafi movement," like this little crony here , Dervish is complaining about the FMN forum users—then Kenneth Peterson5 complains about the Black-white group that likes to post in Sandjak cities—then boldgull19 complains about Dervish (my apologies to him, if he cares, for mentioning it). Yet none of them can point to a single instance where my moderation personally inflicted injustice upon them! How is that possible?

That's all I have to say, and I am definitely stepping out of this thread, unless one of the admins decides to step in. You all feel free to continue in unison... as far as I'm concerned, I'm done with this topic. I'm just sorry that Jack Wood43 hasn't joined in yet to tell me I'm a homosexual, just so the group feels complete.. 👋



Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

Yeah, a little clique.
Every one of us is proud of what we're doing right now.
And you don't say a word about your own lobbying through the Democratic Party or Microsoft? Hypocrite. You're just projecting what you do onto us.

rowdyhawk10 said:1. I'm not ignoring the forum; you are. I am still posting here.

2. It should be perfectly clear to you (and to Dervish too) that users have every right to complain when they feel wronged by unfair moderation. After all, there is an entire subforum dedicated to this, right here: Complaints and Grievances isn't there?

3. Because of that, you didn't need to boycott the Religion section (which feels like a childish tantrum); you could have just kept posting while simultaneously putting pressure on the complaints section regarding my mistakes. Nobody ever stopped you from doing that.

4. Furthermore, the administration isn't blind to moderator injustice when it happens. They might be slow sometimes, but they do step in frequently to correct us moderators, and occasionally even replace us. So, this behavior seems to me like nothing more than the kind of tantrum you'd see in a preschool.

5. Looking at those four points, it’s pretty obvious—you guys have likely run out of ideas. The weight of responsibility has exhausted you. It's hard to endure having to tell someone they are a spiritual killer of their child, or a sinner, or a homosexual. Perhaps you were just intimidated by the proximity and brightness of success, now that people are actually starting to love Islam.

6. I don't find anyone's boycott joyful, and I actually feel bad about all this. But I imagine you and a few other lobbyists (like Jason) are certainly enjoying this and getting a bit carried away... otherwise, you wouldn't be doing this, and you would realize that Islam is more important than any single individual, even if the person in the moderator seat were Yazid himself. There have been those who dealt with him and still came out proud.

Therefore, Scott Nguyen2, you are only here for one reason—to lobby, as Bradley Davis33 put it in a gentler way—for a specific clique. And here is why:

7. YOU are boycotting the forum for a completely irrelevant reason because you aren't even complaining about anything where my moderation personally affected you! Have you ever been personally wronged here? Has my moderation ever caused you injustice? Of course not. If it has, tell me when and where (though you won't; you'll probably just moan about how "it hurts to see injustice toward the brothers, so you feel obligated...").

8. This is quite important: you are just like the others lobbying here. In fact, it’s becoming almost tragicomic. Just as you are lobbying for members of the "modern Salafi movement," like this little crony here , Dervish is complaining about the FMN forum users—then Kenneth Peterson5 complains about the Black-white group that likes to post in Sandjak cities—then boldgull19 complains about Dervish (my apologies to him, if he cares, for mentioning it). Yet none of them can point to a single instance where my moderation personally inflicted injustice upon them! How is that possible?

That's all I have to say, and I am definitely stepping out of this thread, unless one of the admins decides to step in. You all feel free to continue in unison... as far as I'm concerned, I'm done with this topic. I'm just sorry that Jack Wood43 hasn't joined in yet to tell me I'm a homosexual, just so the group feels complete.. 👋



Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

So, does that mean you don't care about the suffering in Palestine?
Do you only care when it affects you?
Hypocrite!

rowdyhawk10 said:1. I'm not ignoring the forum; you are. I am still posting here.

2. It should be perfectly clear to you (and to Dervish too) that users have every right to complain when they feel wronged by unfair moderation. After all, there is an entire subforum dedicated to this, right here: Complaints and Grievances isn't there?

3. Because of that, you didn't need to boycott the Religion section (which feels like a childish tantrum); you could have just kept posting while simultaneously putting pressure on the complaints section regarding my mistakes. Nobody ever stopped you from doing that.

4. Furthermore, the administration isn't blind to moderator injustice when it happens. They might be slow sometimes, but they do step in frequently to correct us moderators, and occasionally even replace us. So, this behavior seems to me like nothing more than the kind of tantrum you'd see in a preschool.

5. Looking at those four points, it’s pretty obvious—you guys have likely run out of ideas. The weight of responsibility has exhausted you. It's hard to endure having to tell someone they are a spiritual killer of their child, or a sinner, or a homosexual. Perhaps you were just intimidated by the proximity and brightness of success, now that people are actually starting to love Islam.

6. I don't find anyone's boycott joyful, and I actually feel bad about all this. But I imagine you and a few other lobbyists (like Jason) are certainly enjoying this and getting a bit carried away... otherwise, you wouldn't be doing this, and you would realize that Islam is more important than any single individual, even if the person in the moderator seat were Yazid himself. There have been those who dealt with him and still came out proud.

Therefore, Scott Nguyen2, you are only here for one reason—to lobby, as Bradley Davis33 put it in a gentler way—for a specific clique. And here is why:

7. YOU are boycotting the forum for a completely irrelevant reason because you aren't even complaining about anything where my moderation personally affected you! Have you ever been personally wronged here? Has my moderation ever caused you injustice? Of course not. If it has, tell me when and where (though you won't; you'll probably just moan about how "it hurts to see injustice toward the brothers, so you feel obligated...").

8. This is quite important: you are just like the others lobbying here. In fact, it’s becoming almost tragicomic. Just as you are lobbying for members of the "modern Salafi movement," like this little crony here , Dervish is complaining about the FMN forum users—then Kenneth Peterson5 complains about the Black-white group that likes to post in Sandjak cities—then boldgull19 complains about Dervish (my apologies to him, if he cares, for mentioning it). Yet none of them can point to a single instance where my moderation personally inflicted injustice upon them! How is that possible?

That's all I have to say, and I am definitely stepping out of this thread, unless one of the admins decides to step in. You all feel free to continue in unison... as far as I'm concerned, I'm done with this topic. I'm just sorry that Jack Wood43 hasn't joined in yet to tell me I'm a homosexual, just so the group feels complete.. 👋



Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

It seems like it's impossible to make you see that this is about principle. I stand behind Musliman.hr even when I disagree with them on certain things. But this matters more than our petty arguments. It's the same way I stand behind Rufaija, even though we clash on everything. I'd do it again. I'll stand behind anyone facing injustice.
Just flip it—imagine the admins were forcing you out. We'd stand by you and demand you stay, or we'd all leave the forum together.
People with principles get this. Principles clearly aren't your strong suit. I don't expect you to understand.

rowdyhawk10 said:1. I'm not ignoring the forum; you are. I am still posting here.

2. It should be perfectly clear to you (and to Dervish too) that users have every right to complain when they feel wronged by unfair moderation. After all, there is an entire subforum dedicated to this, right here: Complaints and Grievances isn't there?

3. Because of that, you didn't need to boycott the Religion section (which feels like a childish tantrum); you could have just kept posting while simultaneously putting pressure on the complaints section regarding my mistakes. Nobody ever stopped you from doing that.

4. Furthermore, the administration isn't blind to moderator injustice when it happens. They might be slow sometimes, but they do step in frequently to correct us moderators, and occasionally even replace us. So, this behavior seems to me like nothing more than the kind of tantrum you'd see in a preschool.

5. Looking at those four points, it’s pretty obvious—you guys have likely run out of ideas. The weight of responsibility has exhausted you. It's hard to endure having to tell someone they are a spiritual killer of their child, or a sinner, or a homosexual. Perhaps you were just intimidated by the proximity and brightness of success, now that people are actually starting to love Islam.

6. I don't find anyone's boycott joyful, and I actually feel bad about all this. But I imagine you and a few other lobbyists (like Jason) are certainly enjoying this and getting a bit carried away... otherwise, you wouldn't be doing this, and you would realize that Islam is more important than any single individual, even if the person in the moderator seat were Yazid himself. There have been those who dealt with him and still came out proud.

Therefore, Scott Nguyen2, you are only here for one reason—to lobby, as Bradley Davis33 put it in a gentler way—for a specific clique. And here is why:

7. YOU are boycotting the forum for a completely irrelevant reason because you aren't even complaining about anything where my moderation personally affected you! Have you ever been personally wronged here? Has my moderation ever caused you injustice? Of course not. If it has, tell me when and where (though you won't; you'll probably just moan about how "it hurts to see injustice toward the brothers, so you feel obligated...").

8. This is quite important: you are just like the others lobbying here. In fact, it’s becoming almost tragicomic. Just as you are lobbying for members of the "modern Salafi movement," like this little crony here , Dervish is complaining about the FMN forum users—then Kenneth Peterson5 complains about the Black-white group that likes to post in Sandjak cities—then boldgull19 complains about Dervish (my apologies to him, if he cares, for mentioning it). Yet none of them can point to a single instance where my moderation personally inflicted injustice upon them! How is that possible?

That's all I have to say, and I am definitely stepping out of this thread, unless one of the admins decides to step in. You all feel free to continue in unison... as far as I'm concerned, I'm done with this topic. I'm just sorry that Jack Wood43 hasn't joined in yet to tell me I'm a homosexual, just so the group feels complete.. 👋



Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

Maybe an admin will jump in to back you up while you're picking on Americans.
Insaninside will show up too, inshaAllah. You'll probably just shove him right into our laps.

You should thank yourself and Insan for having such a knack for bringing out the worst in people.
Like how you twisted what I said about Novi Pazar, though I did apologize. Look at how much you LIE. I never said I was writing by cities, just within the city. How many times am I going to catch you lying?
Where’s your apology to Muslimanu.hr or anyone else for anything?
If we type "rowdyhawk10 apology" into Google, here’s what comes up:
"And you, rowdyhawk10, really ought to apologize to the American Muslims because your militant rhetoric on CyberBulevar regarding the liquidation of the Police Minister of the Federation of Canada discredited so many Americans there; you also owe an apology to the Minister himself and his family for the drink he was served through that possible channel. On the other hand, the Mexican police should probably call you in for questioning, if they haven't already, and the state of Canada should ban you from entering their territory."
http://209.85.129.132/search?q=cache...ient=firefox-a
Now you've ended up looking like a radical. 😂That's just your God-given talent...

rowdyhawk10 said:1. I'm not ignoring the forum; you are. I am still posting here.

2. It should be perfectly clear to you (and to Dervish too) that users have every right to complain when they feel wronged by unfair moderation. After all, there is an entire subforum dedicated to this, right here: Complaints and Grievances isn't there?

3. Because of that, you didn't need to boycott the Religion section (which feels like a childish tantrum); you could have just kept posting while simultaneously putting pressure on the complaints section regarding my mistakes. Nobody ever stopped you from doing that.

4. Furthermore, the administration isn't blind to moderator injustice when it happens. They might be slow sometimes, but they do step in frequently to correct us moderators, and occasionally even replace us. So, this behavior seems to me like nothing more than the kind of tantrum you'd see in a preschool.

5. Looking at those four points, it’s pretty obvious—you guys have likely run out of ideas. The weight of responsibility has exhausted you. It's hard to endure having to tell someone they are a spiritual killer of their child, or a sinner, or a homosexual. Perhaps you were just intimidated by the proximity and brightness of success, now that people are actually starting to love Islam.

6. I don't find anyone's boycott joyful, and I actually feel bad about all this. But I imagine you and a few other lobbyists (like Jason) are certainly enjoying this and getting a bit carried away... otherwise, you wouldn't be doing this, and you would realize that Islam is more important than any single individual, even if the person in the moderator seat were Yazid himself. There have been those who dealt with him and still came out proud.

Therefore, Scott Nguyen2, you are only here for one reason—to lobby, as Bradley Davis33 put it in a gentler way—for a specific clique. And here is why:

7. YOU are boycotting the forum for a completely irrelevant reason because you aren't even complaining about anything where my moderation personally affected you! Have you ever been personally wronged here? Has my moderation ever caused you injustice? Of course not. If it has, tell me when and where (though you won't; you'll probably just moan about how "it hurts to see injustice toward the brothers, so you feel obligated...").

8. This is quite important: you are just like the others lobbying here. In fact, it’s becoming almost tragicomic. Just as you are lobbying for members of the "modern Salafi movement," like this little crony here , Dervish is complaining about the FMN forum users—then Kenneth Peterson5 complains about the Black-white group that likes to post in Sandjak cities—then boldgull19 complains about Dervish (my apologies to him, if he cares, for mentioning it). Yet none of them can point to a single instance where my moderation personally inflicted injustice upon them! How is that possible?

That's all I have to say, and I am definitely stepping out of this thread, unless one of the admins decides to step in. You all feel free to continue in unison... as far as I'm concerned, I'm done with this topic. I'm just sorry that Jack Wood43 hasn't joined in yet to tell me I'm a homosexual, just so the group feels complete.. 👋



Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

Just take the compliment and enjoy it while it lasts. Who knows when we'll see this again? And don't count on those admins who just hand out praise because they love slapping Americans. Vehabijo 😂

rowdyhawk10 said:1. I'm not ignoring the forum; you are. I am still posting here.

2. It should be perfectly clear to you (and to Dervish too) that users have every right to complain when they feel wronged by unfair moderation. After all, there is an entire subforum dedicated to this, right here: Complaints and Grievances isn't there?

3. Because of that, you didn't need to boycott the Religion section (which feels like a childish tantrum); you could have just kept posting while simultaneously putting pressure on the complaints section regarding my mistakes. Nobody ever stopped you from doing that.

4. Furthermore, the administration isn't blind to moderator injustice when it happens. They might be slow sometimes, but they do step in frequently to correct us moderators, and occasionally even replace us. So, this behavior seems to me like nothing more than the kind of tantrum you'd see in a preschool.

5. Looking at those four points, it’s pretty obvious—you guys have likely run out of ideas. The weight of responsibility has exhausted you. It's hard to endure having to tell someone they are a spiritual killer of their child, or a sinner, or a homosexual. Perhaps you were just intimidated by the proximity and brightness of success, now that people are actually starting to love Islam.

6. I don't find anyone's boycott joyful, and I actually feel bad about all this. But I imagine you and a few other lobbyists (like Jason) are certainly enjoying this and getting a bit carried away... otherwise, you wouldn't be doing this, and you would realize that Islam is more important than any single individual, even if the person in the moderator seat were Yazid himself. There have been those who dealt with him and still came out proud.

Therefore, Scott Nguyen2, you are only here for one reason—to lobby, as Bradley Davis33 put it in a gentler way—for a specific clique. And here is why:

7. YOU are boycotting the forum for a completely irrelevant reason because you aren't even complaining about anything where my moderation personally affected you! Have you ever been personally wronged here? Has my moderation ever caused you injustice? Of course not. If it has, tell me when and where (though you won't; you'll probably just moan about how "it hurts to see injustice toward the brothers, so you feel obligated...").

8. This is quite important: you are just like the others lobbying here. In fact, it’s becoming almost tragicomic. Just as you are lobbying for members of the "modern Salafi movement," like this little crony here , Dervish is complaining about the FMN forum users—then Kenneth Peterson5 complains about the Black-white group that likes to post in Sandjak cities—then boldgull19 complains about Dervish (my apologies to him, if he cares, for mentioning it). Yet none of them can point to a single instance where my moderation personally inflicted injustice upon them! How is that possible?

That's all I have to say, and I am definitely stepping out of this thread, unless one of the admins decides to step in. You all feel free to continue in unison... as far as I'm concerned, I'm done with this topic. I'm just sorry that Jack Wood43 hasn't joined in yet to tell me I'm a homosexual, just so the group feels complete.. 👋



Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

I already apologized for what I wrote, and honestly, I'd do it ten more times if I had to. I’d even hop onto your forum just to repost my words and apologize all over again. I'll let them talk trash about me there and just accept it because I messed up. And yeah, I’d probably apologize to them again after they're done spitting on me.
I made a mistake, I admit it. I asked for forgiveness. I'm not being stubborn or trying to justify my slip-up. It’s actually pretty easy when you've got a soul and a heart, right?
In my neck of the woods, we call people like you two-faced pigeons.
You quote the rulings from the Islamic Council of the US, but then you ignore the Grand Mufti of that same council. Your hypocrisy is everywhere. It’s as obvious as tracks left by a rabbit running through the snow.
I'm a better Insan than you are. There are plenty of witnesses right here on this forum if you need proof.
God sees both of us. He sees our hearts. To me, you're a hypocrite. He'll be the one to judge who's actually right.[/indent][/indent]
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rowdyhawk10 said:1. I'm not ignoring the forum; you are. I am still posting here.

2. It should be perfectly clear to you (and to Dervish too) that users have every right to complain when they feel wronged by unfair moderation. After all, there is an entire subforum dedicated to this, right here: Complaints and Grievances isn't there?

3. Because of that, you didn't need to boycott the Religion section (which feels like a childish tantrum); you could have just kept posting while simultaneously putting pressure on the complaints section regarding my mistakes. Nobody ever stopped you from doing that.

4. Furthermore, the administration isn't blind to moderator injustice when it happens. They might be slow sometimes, but they do step in frequently to correct us moderators, and occasionally even replace us. So, this behavior seems to me like nothing more than the kind of tantrum you'd see in a preschool.

5. Looking at those four points, it’s pretty obvious—you guys have likely run out of ideas. The weight of responsibility has exhausted you. It's hard to endure having to tell someone they are a spiritual killer of their child, or a sinner, or a homosexual. Perhaps you were just intimidated by the proximity and brightness of success, now that people are actually starting to love Islam.

6. I don't find anyone's boycott joyful, and I actually feel bad about all this. But I imagine you and a few other lobbyists (like Jason) are certainly enjoying this and getting a bit carried away... otherwise, you wouldn't be doing this, and you would realize that Islam is more important than any single individual, even if the person in the moderator seat were Yazid himself. There have been those who dealt with him and still came out proud.

Therefore, Scott Nguyen2, you are only here for one reason—to lobby, as Bradley Davis33 put it in a gentler way—for a specific clique. And here is why:

7. YOU are boycotting the forum for a completely irrelevant reason because you aren't even complaining about anything where my moderation personally affected you! Have you ever been personally wronged here? Has my moderation ever caused you injustice? Of course not. If it has, tell me when and where (though you won't; you'll probably just moan about how "it hurts to see injustice toward the brothers, so you feel obligated...").

8. This is quite important: you are just like the others lobbying here. In fact, it’s becoming almost tragicomic. Just as you are lobbying for members of the "modern Salafi movement," like this little crony here , Dervish is complaining about the FMN forum users—then Kenneth Peterson5 complains about the Black-white group that likes to post in Sandjak cities—then boldgull19 complains about Dervish (my apologies to him, if he cares, for mentioning it). Yet none of them can point to a single instance where my moderation personally inflicted injustice upon them! How is that possible?

That's all I have to say, and I am definitely stepping out of this thread, unless one of the admins decides to step in. You all feel free to continue in unison... as far as I'm concerned, I'm done with this topic. I'm just sorry that Jack Wood43 hasn't joined in yet to tell me I'm a homosexual, just so the group feels complete.. 👋



Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

Oh sure, go ahead and insult God just because it fits your little rulebook.
Neurosis?
Honestly, you're just obsessed with these online forums. That sounds more like neurosis to me. Just look at how many different boards you hang out on. I've seen you posting late at night, early morning, midday, evening...
How many posts do you even have total? Like 20,000? Or maybe 30,000?
What's the deal, Mr. Neurosis?

rowdyhawk10 said:1. I'm not ignoring the forum; you are. I am still posting here.

2. It should be perfectly clear to you (and to Dervish too) that users have every right to complain when they feel wronged by unfair moderation. After all, there is an entire subforum dedicated to this, right here: Complaints and Grievances isn't there?

3. Because of that, you didn't need to boycott the Religion section (which feels like a childish tantrum); you could have just kept posting while simultaneously putting pressure on the complaints section regarding my mistakes. Nobody ever stopped you from doing that.

4. Furthermore, the administration isn't blind to moderator injustice when it happens. They might be slow sometimes, but they do step in frequently to correct us moderators, and occasionally even replace us. So, this behavior seems to me like nothing more than the kind of tantrum you'd see in a preschool.

5. Looking at those four points, it’s pretty obvious—you guys have likely run out of ideas. The weight of responsibility has exhausted you. It's hard to endure having to tell someone they are a spiritual killer of their child, or a sinner, or a homosexual. Perhaps you were just intimidated by the proximity and brightness of success, now that people are actually starting to love Islam.

6. I don't find anyone's boycott joyful, and I actually feel bad about all this. But I imagine you and a few other lobbyists (like Jason) are certainly enjoying this and getting a bit carried away... otherwise, you wouldn't be doing this, and you would realize that Islam is more important than any single individual, even if the person in the moderator seat were Yazid himself. There have been those who dealt with him and still came out proud.

Therefore, Scott Nguyen2, you are only here for one reason—to lobby, as Bradley Davis33 put it in a gentler way—for a specific clique. And here is why:

7. YOU are boycotting the forum for a completely irrelevant reason because you aren't even complaining about anything where my moderation personally affected you! Have you ever been personally wronged here? Has my moderation ever caused you injustice? Of course not. If it has, tell me when and where (though you won't; you'll probably just moan about how "it hurts to see injustice toward the brothers, so you feel obligated...").

8. This is quite important: you are just like the others lobbying here. In fact, it’s becoming almost tragicomic. Just as you are lobbying for members of the "modern Salafi movement," like this little crony here , Dervish is complaining about the FMN forum users—then Kenneth Peterson5 complains about the Black-white group that likes to post in Sandjak cities—then boldgull19 complains about Dervish (my apologies to him, if he cares, for mentioning it). Yet none of them can point to a single instance where my moderation personally inflicted injustice upon them! How is that possible?

That's all I have to say, and I am definitely stepping out of this thread, unless one of the admins decides to step in. You all feel free to continue in unison... as far as I'm concerned, I'm done with this topic. I'm just sorry that Jack Wood43 hasn't joined in yet to tell me I'm a homosexual, just so the group feels complete.. 👋



Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

This part really caught my eye.
Didn't you say just a few days ago that I was promoting terrorism and crime? You straight up called me a terrorist so there wouldn't be any confusion.
Are you the same rowdyhawk10?
Now you're calling me "brother" here.
So, are you brothers with a terrorist?
I honestly don't know who taught you how to use logic, but whoever it was, please give us a name so we can all avoid them.
I already saw that you're a hypocrite who lies without blinking, and now I see you aren't exactly the brightest either.
People were right when they called you a fanatic if
you're calling terrorists "brothers." 😂

rowdyhawk10 said:1. I'm not ignoring the forum; you are. I am still posting here.

2. It should be perfectly clear to you (and to Dervish too) that users have every right to complain when they feel wronged by unfair moderation. After all, there is an entire subforum dedicated to this, right here: Complaints and Grievances isn't there?

3. Because of that, you didn't need to boycott the Religion section (which feels like a childish tantrum); you could have just kept posting while simultaneously putting pressure on the complaints section regarding my mistakes. Nobody ever stopped you from doing that.

4. Furthermore, the administration isn't blind to moderator injustice when it happens. They might be slow sometimes, but they do step in frequently to correct us moderators, and occasionally even replace us. So, this behavior seems to me like nothing more than the kind of tantrum you'd see in a preschool.

5. Looking at those four points, it’s pretty obvious—you guys have likely run out of ideas. The weight of responsibility has exhausted you. It's hard to endure having to tell someone they are a spiritual killer of their child, or a sinner, or a homosexual. Perhaps you were just intimidated by the proximity and brightness of success, now that people are actually starting to love Islam.

6. I don't find anyone's boycott joyful, and I actually feel bad about all this. But I imagine you and a few other lobbyists (like Jason) are certainly enjoying this and getting a bit carried away... otherwise, you wouldn't be doing this, and you would realize that Islam is more important than any single individual, even if the person in the moderator seat were Yazid himself. There have been those who dealt with him and still came out proud.

Therefore, Scott Nguyen2, you are only here for one reason—to lobby, as Bradley Davis33 put it in a gentler way—for a specific clique. And here is why:

7. YOU are boycotting the forum for a completely irrelevant reason because you aren't even complaining about anything where my moderation personally affected you! Have you ever been personally wronged here? Has my moderation ever caused you injustice? Of course not. If it has, tell me when and where (though you won't; you'll probably just moan about how "it hurts to see injustice toward the brothers, so you feel obligated...").

8. This is quite important: you are just like the others lobbying here. In fact, it’s becoming almost tragicomic. Just as you are lobbying for members of the "modern Salafi movement," like this little crony here , Dervish is complaining about the FMN forum users—then Kenneth Peterson5 complains about the Black-white group that likes to post in Sandjak cities—then boldgull19 complains about Dervish (my apologies to him, if he cares, for mentioning it). Yet none of them can point to a single instance where my moderation personally inflicted injustice upon them! How is that possible?

That's all I have to say, and I am definitely stepping out of this thread, unless one of the admins decides to step in. You all feel free to continue in unison... as far as I'm concerned, I'm done with this topic. I'm just sorry that Jack Wood43 hasn't joined in yet to tell me I'm a homosexual, just so the group feels complete.. 👋



Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

You're already in the mud. We're just waiting for God's blessing—like a heavy rain—to wash you away from here.

rowdyhawk10 said:1. I'm not ignoring the forum; you are. I am still posting here.

2. It should be perfectly clear to you (and to Dervish too) that users have every right to complain when they feel wronged by unfair moderation. After all, there is an entire subforum dedicated to this, right here: Complaints and Grievances isn't there?

3. Because of that, you didn't need to boycott the Religion section (which feels like a childish tantrum); you could have just kept posting while simultaneously putting pressure on the complaints section regarding my mistakes. Nobody ever stopped you from doing that.

4. Furthermore, the administration isn't blind to moderator injustice when it happens. They might be slow sometimes, but they do step in frequently to correct us moderators, and occasionally even replace us. So, this behavior seems to me like nothing more than the kind of tantrum you'd see in a preschool.

5. Looking at those four points, it’s pretty obvious—you guys have likely run out of ideas. The weight of responsibility has exhausted you. It's hard to endure having to tell someone they are a spiritual killer of their child, or a sinner, or a homosexual. Perhaps you were just intimidated by the proximity and brightness of success, now that people are actually starting to love Islam.

6. I don't find anyone's boycott joyful, and I actually feel bad about all this. But I imagine you and a few other lobbyists (like Jason) are certainly enjoying this and getting a bit carried away... otherwise, you wouldn't be doing this, and you would realize that Islam is more important than any single individual, even if the person in the moderator seat were Yazid himself. There have been those who dealt with him and still came out proud.

Therefore, Scott Nguyen2, you are only here for one reason—to lobby, as Bradley Davis33 put it in a gentler way—for a specific clique. And here is why:

7. YOU are boycotting the forum for a completely irrelevant reason because you aren't even complaining about anything where my moderation personally affected you! Have you ever been personally wronged here? Has my moderation ever caused you injustice? Of course not. If it has, tell me when and where (though you won't; you'll probably just moan about how "it hurts to see injustice toward the brothers, so you feel obligated...").

8. This is quite important: you are just like the others lobbying here. In fact, it’s becoming almost tragicomic. Just as you are lobbying for members of the "modern Salafi movement," like this little crony here , Dervish is complaining about the FMN forum users—then Kenneth Peterson5 complains about the Black-white group that likes to post in Sandjak cities—then boldgull19 complains about Dervish (my apologies to him, if he cares, for mentioning it). Yet none of them can point to a single instance where my moderation personally inflicted injustice upon them! How is that possible?

That's all I have to say, and I am definitely stepping out of this thread, unless one of the admins decides to step in. You all feel free to continue in unison... as far as I'm concerned, I'm done with this topic. I'm just sorry that Jack Wood43 hasn't joined in yet to tell me I'm a homosexual, just so the group feels complete.. 👋



Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

rowdyhawk10:
Don't underestimate the people here. Honestly, plenty of folks are sharper than you, know more than you, and are way better suited for your role. Being a moderator just proved that old saying about how giving someone power shows their true colors. Just step down now while you still have some dignity left. You're fighting a losing battle, and you'll lose it soon enough, whether it's today or next week. I won't swear on anything because you aren't worth the oath, but just know I'm prepping a lawsuit. Your posts are documented, and people in New York are already asking about legal procedures. Once the owner gets served, you'll be gone in a flash. After this, I'm heading over to the banned section to tell them to close my last appeal since the offer is off the table. Enough of this nonsense!

Brothers and sisters:
I'm calling on you to hang in there and stay strong. Anyone who breaks away is eventually going to become a victim of rowdyhawk10. Everyone is basically "on his list," just waiting for the right moment for him to pick you off one by one. A wolf always goes after the sheep that wanders off. Don't separate, and don't let the Democratic Party break you with their empty promises! His word isn't worth a dime.

Peace to everyone.
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#104 ·
Totally slipped my mind.
You called that TEWHID guy a crony.

I don't really agree with his views, but attacking him like that just says more about you.

Just so you know, you hypocrite:
The leader of the Salafi movement in Saudi Arabia actually spent three years in prison just for criticizing the monarchy.
Once he got out, he publicly distanced himself from the real criminal, bin Laden, and denounced him as an infidel.
And honestly? That’s the kind of "crony" I have zero respect for.
So yeah, that's a little insight into those famous Salafis you're so busy going after right now.
fadedlynx39 fadedlynx39 Newcomer
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#105 ·
Scott Nguyen2 said:
Look, at the end of the day... I’m actually glad you noticed that Scott Nguyen2 is finally stepping up and getting involved now—especially since he wouldn't say a single word fifteen days ago when everyone was throwing insults around. You hit the nail on the head with your question: where was he back then to call out the injustice and all the garbage being spewed by his "friends"? Where was he to criticize—even just symbolically—those people writing such nonsense? And then he goes and says he "doesn't want to get involved"... wow, you really caught onto that one! I actually told him in my last post: Simona figured out years ago how shady that kind of behavior is. It's the exact same thing here, and he even went out of his way to say, "Sunnah, don't give up." You totally spotted that too—he’s clearly just trying not to "offend" certain users, specifically the majority he's now desperately protesting against.

Man, there is just so much drama being stirred up here. It's all getting a bit too low-level. Once upon a time (since we're so obsessed with bringing up the past), I got carried away myself and mentioned the Sandook area in a bad light—and honestly, that’s the only thing I truly regret saying. At the end of the day, brothers are brothers, no matter what kind of person you turn out to be.
Look at us—mashallah—Salafis, Sufis, and followers of different schools all standing together in the same line. Isn't it wild how God works? Let that be an example for us. Isn't His name the Gatherer? My heart would be so full if I could just happily grab a coffee sometime—without all this second-guessing—with C&B, Koby, Bradley Davis33, Dervish, boldgull19, FMN Alem, Jack Wood43, Sunnah, the Charlatan, wearyhawk222, and the rest of you (forgive me if I missed anyone!), just to sit and have a real conversation🙂. There’s just too little time in this life to waste it on hatred and living in bitterness.

I can't really speak for "myself"—that feels ungrateful. I'd rather people criticize me than have someone praise me, because honestly, I'm pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of all this. I'm not forcing anyone to do anything, nor am I asking them to "defend" me or, heaven forbid, "follow" me... let alone anything more serious than that. May God allow it so that when we give, it's done so quietly that the left hand doesn't even know what the right hand is doing. Amen!

_____________________

Regarding your moderation duties, that’s been entrusted to you by His will. You are the one whom God gave the authority (the power on this Reddit) to grant rights to others. Those "others" are the ones seeking the justice that you are meant to provide, which is a right God gave to you in your role as a moderator. What is the point of having rights if they only serve those who already hold power? That makes no sense. If someone in power starts demanding their own "rights," just know they're getting caught up in worldly interests, and that "authority" becomes a test—or even a reason for their downfall. Why should a "ruler" demand rights from their subordinates? Doesn't he already have them? Aren't rights there specifically for the disempowered and the wronged? Like I said, generally speaking, rights are sought by those who lack them, and for God's sake, those who *do* have power are obligated to grant them in His name, because that power was given to them as a trust from Him—and isn't His name the Lord?
Anyway, it's tough on whoever gets power and refuses to pass it on to those searching for it. That person is nothing but a nuisance and a source of chaos, and they clearly don't know how to judge fairly.
But God is just, so He will recognize the good you do in your moderation. It is definitely a good thing that you stood up to defend the sisters, especially sister Sunnah🙂. God rewards abundantly🙂, and God will eventually remove everything that stands in the way of "justice" reaching those who seek it, even if none of us ever post on this forum again.

Anyway, I’m rambling a bit, but I see the good in all of this. To me, it's truly a blessing to be in the same line as the Salafis, the Sufis, and the various schools of thought (the Shia aren't on the forum right now, but they're always welcome).🙂 , Mashallah, we wouldn't have even gotten this far—God willing—if you hadn't gone and united us all with your absolutely twisted way of moderating. Mashallah, God works in mysterious ways...

Anyway, my boycott is still going strong, and honestly—take a look around (it's like "us" barely exists on Reddit anymore, at least not the old crew)—just look at what you've done to this place. This whole thing has turned into nothing but a sub-forum for Religion, and god knows what it’s turning into now. If you can't see that—and if God has truly blinded you to the reality of how things look—then I guess there's some kind of lesson in it, I suppose...

Peace be upon you

This music is pure bliss for any true believer.
God's wisdom really is endless. SubhanAllah.
rowdyhawk10 tried to stir up trouble and divide us here on the forum, but he actually ended up getting exactly what he didn't want. We're all pulling together now.
As for coffee, honestly, I’d love to grab a cup with all of you, God willing.
I'm out here in Ottawa, my Microsoft is: I don't have any content to rewrite from that email address! Send over the text you want me to work on, and I'll get right on it. You're all more than welcome! Honestly, my pleasure.
I truly feel like this is God's way of letting the truth win and crushing all that injustice. It’s just a reminder that if we don't stick together, we're basically asking for trouble. We have to stay strong.
It feels wrong to walk away from injustice, even if it breaks your heart.

Scott Nguyen2 said:
Look, at the end of the day... I’m actually glad you noticed that Scott Nguyen2 is finally stepping up and getting involved now—especially since he wouldn't say a single word fifteen days ago when everyone was throwing insults around. You hit the nail on the head with your question: where was he back then to call out the injustice and all the garbage being spewed by his "friends"? Where was he to criticize—even just symbolically—those people writing such nonsense? And then he goes and says he "doesn't want to get involved"... wow, you really caught onto that one! I actually told him in my last post: Simona figured out years ago how shady that kind of behavior is. It's the exact same thing here, and he even went out of his way to say, "Sunnah, don't give up." You totally spotted that too—he’s clearly just trying not to "offend" certain users, specifically the majority he's now desperately protesting against.

Man, there is just so much drama being stirred up here. It's all getting a bit too low-level. Once upon a time (since we're so obsessed with bringing up the past), I got carried away myself and mentioned the Sandook area in a bad light—and honestly, that’s the only thing I truly regret saying. At the end of the day, brothers are brothers, no matter what kind of person you turn out to be.
Look at us—mashallah—Salafis, Sufis, and followers of different schools all standing together in the same line. Isn't it wild how God works? Let that be an example for us. Isn't His name the Gatherer? My heart would be so full if I could just happily grab a coffee sometime—without all this second-guessing—with C&B, Koby, Bradley Davis33, Dervish, boldgull19, FMN Alem, Jack Wood43, Sunnah, the Charlatan, wearyhawk222, and the rest of you (forgive me if I missed anyone!), just to sit and have a real conversation🙂. There’s just too little time in this life to waste it on hatred and living in bitterness.

I can't really speak for "myself"—that feels ungrateful. I'd rather people criticize me than have someone praise me, because honestly, I'm pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of all this. I'm not forcing anyone to do anything, nor am I asking them to "defend" me or, heaven forbid, "follow" me... let alone anything more serious than that. May God allow it so that when we give, it's done so quietly that the left hand doesn't even know what the right hand is doing. Amen!

_____________________

Regarding your moderation duties, that’s been entrusted to you by His will. You are the one whom God gave the authority (the power on this Reddit) to grant rights to others. Those "others" are the ones seeking the justice that you are meant to provide, which is a right God gave to you in your role as a moderator. What is the point of having rights if they only serve those who already hold power? That makes no sense. If someone in power starts demanding their own "rights," just know they're getting caught up in worldly interests, and that "authority" becomes a test—or even a reason for their downfall. Why should a "ruler" demand rights from their subordinates? Doesn't he already have them? Aren't rights there specifically for the disempowered and the wronged? Like I said, generally speaking, rights are sought by those who lack them, and for God's sake, those who *do* have power are obligated to grant them in His name, because that power was given to them as a trust from Him—and isn't His name the Lord?
Anyway, it's tough on whoever gets power and refuses to pass it on to those searching for it. That person is nothing but a nuisance and a source of chaos, and they clearly don't know how to judge fairly.
But God is just, so He will recognize the good you do in your moderation. It is definitely a good thing that you stood up to defend the sisters, especially sister Sunnah🙂. God rewards abundantly🙂, and God will eventually remove everything that stands in the way of "justice" reaching those who seek it, even if none of us ever post on this forum again.

Anyway, I’m rambling a bit, but I see the good in all of this. To me, it's truly a blessing to be in the same line as the Salafis, the Sufis, and the various schools of thought (the Shia aren't on the forum right now, but they're always welcome).🙂 , Mashallah, we wouldn't have even gotten this far—God willing—if you hadn't gone and united us all with your absolutely twisted way of moderating. Mashallah, God works in mysterious ways...

Anyway, my boycott is still going strong, and honestly—take a look around (it's like "us" barely exists on Reddit anymore, at least not the old crew)—just look at what you've done to this place. This whole thing has turned into nothing but a sub-forum for Religion, and god knows what it’s turning into now. If you can't see that—and if God has truly blinded you to the reality of how things look—then I guess there's some kind of lesson in it, I suppose...

Peace be upon you

Amen!
It’s not about any one specific leader driving this boycott. We're all just coming together to stand up against injustice and clear up the lies being spread here in the name of Islam.
The way rowdyhawk10 interprets the Quran is exactly what's bothering all of us.
We can argue about different interpretations all day long, but misinterpreting the fundamental pillars of our faith isn't up for debate. It’s just facts. For me, standing up for the truth is the whole point. Honestly, I feel like it's a duty for every American Muslim to stand in solidarity against that kind of misinformation.
_____________________

Scott Nguyen2 said:
Look, at the end of the day... I’m actually glad you noticed that Scott Nguyen2 is finally stepping up and getting involved now—especially since he wouldn't say a single word fifteen days ago when everyone was throwing insults around. You hit the nail on the head with your question: where was he back then to call out the injustice and all the garbage being spewed by his "friends"? Where was he to criticize—even just symbolically—those people writing such nonsense? And then he goes and says he "doesn't want to get involved"... wow, you really caught onto that one! I actually told him in my last post: Simona figured out years ago how shady that kind of behavior is. It's the exact same thing here, and he even went out of his way to say, "Sunnah, don't give up." You totally spotted that too—he’s clearly just trying not to "offend" certain users, specifically the majority he's now desperately protesting against.

Man, there is just so much drama being stirred up here. It's all getting a bit too low-level. Once upon a time (since we're so obsessed with bringing up the past), I got carried away myself and mentioned the Sandook area in a bad light—and honestly, that’s the only thing I truly regret saying. At the end of the day, brothers are brothers, no matter what kind of person you turn out to be.
Look at us—mashallah—Salafis, Sufis, and followers of different schools all standing together in the same line. Isn't it wild how God works? Let that be an example for us. Isn't His name the Gatherer? My heart would be so full if I could just happily grab a coffee sometime—without all this second-guessing—with C&B, Koby, Bradley Davis33, Dervish, boldgull19, FMN Alem, Jack Wood43, Sunnah, the Charlatan, wearyhawk222, and the rest of you (forgive me if I missed anyone!), just to sit and have a real conversation🙂. There’s just too little time in this life to waste it on hatred and living in bitterness.

I can't really speak for "myself"—that feels ungrateful. I'd rather people criticize me than have someone praise me, because honestly, I'm pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of all this. I'm not forcing anyone to do anything, nor am I asking them to "defend" me or, heaven forbid, "follow" me... let alone anything more serious than that. May God allow it so that when we give, it's done so quietly that the left hand doesn't even know what the right hand is doing. Amen!

_____________________

Regarding your moderation duties, that’s been entrusted to you by His will. You are the one whom God gave the authority (the power on this Reddit) to grant rights to others. Those "others" are the ones seeking the justice that you are meant to provide, which is a right God gave to you in your role as a moderator. What is the point of having rights if they only serve those who already hold power? That makes no sense. If someone in power starts demanding their own "rights," just know they're getting caught up in worldly interests, and that "authority" becomes a test—or even a reason for their downfall. Why should a "ruler" demand rights from their subordinates? Doesn't he already have them? Aren't rights there specifically for the disempowered and the wronged? Like I said, generally speaking, rights are sought by those who lack them, and for God's sake, those who *do* have power are obligated to grant them in His name, because that power was given to them as a trust from Him—and isn't His name the Lord?
Anyway, it's tough on whoever gets power and refuses to pass it on to those searching for it. That person is nothing but a nuisance and a source of chaos, and they clearly don't know how to judge fairly.
But God is just, so He will recognize the good you do in your moderation. It is definitely a good thing that you stood up to defend the sisters, especially sister Sunnah🙂. God rewards abundantly🙂, and God will eventually remove everything that stands in the way of "justice" reaching those who seek it, even if none of us ever post on this forum again.

Anyway, I’m rambling a bit, but I see the good in all of this. To me, it's truly a blessing to be in the same line as the Salafis, the Sufis, and the various schools of thought (the Shia aren't on the forum right now, but they're always welcome).🙂 , Mashallah, we wouldn't have even gotten this far—God willing—if you hadn't gone and united us all with your absolutely twisted way of moderating. Mashallah, God works in mysterious ways...

Anyway, my boycott is still going strong, and honestly—take a look around (it's like "us" barely exists on Reddit anymore, at least not the old crew)—just look at what you've done to this place. This whole thing has turned into nothing but a sub-forum for Religion, and god knows what it’s turning into now. If you can't see that—and if God has truly blinded you to the reality of how things look—then I guess there's some kind of lesson in it, I suppose...

Peace be upon you

Yeah, it’s just sad. Nobody actually reaches the top, yet everyone keeps hiding behind their faith. Such a tragedy...
Wasn't even Abu Hanifa jailed because he refused to be the Supreme Chief Justice...
And look at people today... they'd sell their souls just for a tiny bit of power that’ll end up ruining them.

Scott Nguyen2 said:
Look, at the end of the day... I’m actually glad you noticed that Scott Nguyen2 is finally stepping up and getting involved now—especially since he wouldn't say a single word fifteen days ago when everyone was throwing insults around. You hit the nail on the head with your question: where was he back then to call out the injustice and all the garbage being spewed by his "friends"? Where was he to criticize—even just symbolically—those people writing such nonsense? And then he goes and says he "doesn't want to get involved"... wow, you really caught onto that one! I actually told him in my last post: Simona figured out years ago how shady that kind of behavior is. It's the exact same thing here, and he even went out of his way to say, "Sunnah, don't give up." You totally spotted that too—he’s clearly just trying not to "offend" certain users, specifically the majority he's now desperately protesting against.

Man, there is just so much drama being stirred up here. It's all getting a bit too low-level. Once upon a time (since we're so obsessed with bringing up the past), I got carried away myself and mentioned the Sandook area in a bad light—and honestly, that’s the only thing I truly regret saying. At the end of the day, brothers are brothers, no matter what kind of person you turn out to be.
Look at us—mashallah—Salafis, Sufis, and followers of different schools all standing together in the same line. Isn't it wild how God works? Let that be an example for us. Isn't His name the Gatherer? My heart would be so full if I could just happily grab a coffee sometime—without all this second-guessing—with C&B, Koby, Bradley Davis33, Dervish, boldgull19, FMN Alem, Jack Wood43, Sunnah, the Charlatan, wearyhawk222, and the rest of you (forgive me if I missed anyone!), just to sit and have a real conversation🙂. There’s just too little time in this life to waste it on hatred and living in bitterness.

I can't really speak for "myself"—that feels ungrateful. I'd rather people criticize me than have someone praise me, because honestly, I'm pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of all this. I'm not forcing anyone to do anything, nor am I asking them to "defend" me or, heaven forbid, "follow" me... let alone anything more serious than that. May God allow it so that when we give, it's done so quietly that the left hand doesn't even know what the right hand is doing. Amen!

_____________________

Regarding your moderation duties, that’s been entrusted to you by His will. You are the one whom God gave the authority (the power on this Reddit) to grant rights to others. Those "others" are the ones seeking the justice that you are meant to provide, which is a right God gave to you in your role as a moderator. What is the point of having rights if they only serve those who already hold power? That makes no sense. If someone in power starts demanding their own "rights," just know they're getting caught up in worldly interests, and that "authority" becomes a test—or even a reason for their downfall. Why should a "ruler" demand rights from their subordinates? Doesn't he already have them? Aren't rights there specifically for the disempowered and the wronged? Like I said, generally speaking, rights are sought by those who lack them, and for God's sake, those who *do* have power are obligated to grant them in His name, because that power was given to them as a trust from Him—and isn't His name the Lord?
Anyway, it's tough on whoever gets power and refuses to pass it on to those searching for it. That person is nothing but a nuisance and a source of chaos, and they clearly don't know how to judge fairly.
But God is just, so He will recognize the good you do in your moderation. It is definitely a good thing that you stood up to defend the sisters, especially sister Sunnah🙂. God rewards abundantly🙂, and God will eventually remove everything that stands in the way of "justice" reaching those who seek it, even if none of us ever post on this forum again.

Anyway, I’m rambling a bit, but I see the good in all of this. To me, it's truly a blessing to be in the same line as the Salafis, the Sufis, and the various schools of thought (the Shia aren't on the forum right now, but they're always welcome).🙂 , Mashallah, we wouldn't have even gotten this far—God willing—if you hadn't gone and united us all with your absolutely twisted way of moderating. Mashallah, God works in mysterious ways...

Anyway, my boycott is still going strong, and honestly—take a look around (it's like "us" barely exists on Reddit anymore, at least not the old crew)—just look at what you've done to this place. This whole thing has turned into nothing but a sub-forum for Religion, and god knows what it’s turning into now. If you can't see that—and if God has truly blinded you to the reality of how things look—then I guess there's some kind of lesson in it, I suppose...

Peace be upon you

That's true too.
The same goes for how the space now being filled by people who dislike Islam is basically thanks to Shadyjev driving all the Muslims off this forum.
We're seeing Islam get insulted now, so let Shady and his good buddy Damir try to "fight" for the truth themselves.
With all the blasphemy against God, portraying the Prophet a.s. as a predator, and other nonsense—you have to expect things to spiral.
Now, apparently, it's totally fine because as long as an "F-you" isn't aimed directly at a user, it's no big deal. It's obvious that insulting the Lord doesn't bother Shady as long as it follows the rulebook.
Man... just awful!

Scott Nguyen2 said:
Look, at the end of the day... I’m actually glad you noticed that Scott Nguyen2 is finally stepping up and getting involved now—especially since he wouldn't say a single word fifteen days ago when everyone was throwing insults around. You hit the nail on the head with your question: where was he back then to call out the injustice and all the garbage being spewed by his "friends"? Where was he to criticize—even just symbolically—those people writing such nonsense? And then he goes and says he "doesn't want to get involved"... wow, you really caught onto that one! I actually told him in my last post: Simona figured out years ago how shady that kind of behavior is. It's the exact same thing here, and he even went out of his way to say, "Sunnah, don't give up." You totally spotted that too—he’s clearly just trying not to "offend" certain users, specifically the majority he's now desperately protesting against.

Man, there is just so much drama being stirred up here. It's all getting a bit too low-level. Once upon a time (since we're so obsessed with bringing up the past), I got carried away myself and mentioned the Sandook area in a bad light—and honestly, that’s the only thing I truly regret saying. At the end of the day, brothers are brothers, no matter what kind of person you turn out to be.
Look at us—mashallah—Salafis, Sufis, and followers of different schools all standing together in the same line. Isn't it wild how God works? Let that be an example for us. Isn't His name the Gatherer? My heart would be so full if I could just happily grab a coffee sometime—without all this second-guessing—with C&B, Koby, Bradley Davis33, Dervish, boldgull19, FMN Alem, Jack Wood43, Sunnah, the Charlatan, wearyhawk222, and the rest of you (forgive me if I missed anyone!), just to sit and have a real conversation🙂. There’s just too little time in this life to waste it on hatred and living in bitterness.

I can't really speak for "myself"—that feels ungrateful. I'd rather people criticize me than have someone praise me, because honestly, I'm pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of all this. I'm not forcing anyone to do anything, nor am I asking them to "defend" me or, heaven forbid, "follow" me... let alone anything more serious than that. May God allow it so that when we give, it's done so quietly that the left hand doesn't even know what the right hand is doing. Amen!

_____________________

Regarding your moderation duties, that’s been entrusted to you by His will. You are the one whom God gave the authority (the power on this Reddit) to grant rights to others. Those "others" are the ones seeking the justice that you are meant to provide, which is a right God gave to you in your role as a moderator. What is the point of having rights if they only serve those who already hold power? That makes no sense. If someone in power starts demanding their own "rights," just know they're getting caught up in worldly interests, and that "authority" becomes a test—or even a reason for their downfall. Why should a "ruler" demand rights from their subordinates? Doesn't he already have them? Aren't rights there specifically for the disempowered and the wronged? Like I said, generally speaking, rights are sought by those who lack them, and for God's sake, those who *do* have power are obligated to grant them in His name, because that power was given to them as a trust from Him—and isn't His name the Lord?
Anyway, it's tough on whoever gets power and refuses to pass it on to those searching for it. That person is nothing but a nuisance and a source of chaos, and they clearly don't know how to judge fairly.
But God is just, so He will recognize the good you do in your moderation. It is definitely a good thing that you stood up to defend the sisters, especially sister Sunnah🙂. God rewards abundantly🙂, and God will eventually remove everything that stands in the way of "justice" reaching those who seek it, even if none of us ever post on this forum again.

Anyway, I’m rambling a bit, but I see the good in all of this. To me, it's truly a blessing to be in the same line as the Salafis, the Sufis, and the various schools of thought (the Shia aren't on the forum right now, but they're always welcome).🙂 , Mashallah, we wouldn't have even gotten this far—God willing—if you hadn't gone and united us all with your absolutely twisted way of moderating. Mashallah, God works in mysterious ways...

Anyway, my boycott is still going strong, and honestly—take a look around (it's like "us" barely exists on Reddit anymore, at least not the old crew)—just look at what you've done to this place. This whole thing has turned into nothing but a sub-forum for Religion, and god knows what it’s turning into now. If you can't see that—and if God has truly blinded you to the reality of how things look—then I guess there's some kind of lesson in it, I suppose...

Peace be upon you

Yeah, exactly.
SubhanAllah!!!

Scott Nguyen2 said:
Look, at the end of the day... I’m actually glad you noticed that Scott Nguyen2 is finally stepping up and getting involved now—especially since he wouldn't say a single word fifteen days ago when everyone was throwing insults around. You hit the nail on the head with your question: where was he back then to call out the injustice and all the garbage being spewed by his "friends"? Where was he to criticize—even just symbolically—those people writing such nonsense? And then he goes and says he "doesn't want to get involved"... wow, you really caught onto that one! I actually told him in my last post: Simona figured out years ago how shady that kind of behavior is. It's the exact same thing here, and he even went out of his way to say, "Sunnah, don't give up." You totally spotted that too—he’s clearly just trying not to "offend" certain users, specifically the majority he's now desperately protesting against.

Man, there is just so much drama being stirred up here. It's all getting a bit too low-level. Once upon a time (since we're so obsessed with bringing up the past), I got carried away myself and mentioned the Sandook area in a bad light—and honestly, that’s the only thing I truly regret saying. At the end of the day, brothers are brothers, no matter what kind of person you turn out to be.
Look at us—mashallah—Salafis, Sufis, and followers of different schools all standing together in the same line. Isn't it wild how God works? Let that be an example for us. Isn't His name the Gatherer? My heart would be so full if I could just happily grab a coffee sometime—without all this second-guessing—with C&B, Koby, Bradley Davis33, Dervish, boldgull19, FMN Alem, Jack Wood43, Sunnah, the Charlatan, wearyhawk222, and the rest of you (forgive me if I missed anyone!), just to sit and have a real conversation🙂. There’s just too little time in this life to waste it on hatred and living in bitterness.

I can't really speak for "myself"—that feels ungrateful. I'd rather people criticize me than have someone praise me, because honestly, I'm pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of all this. I'm not forcing anyone to do anything, nor am I asking them to "defend" me or, heaven forbid, "follow" me... let alone anything more serious than that. May God allow it so that when we give, it's done so quietly that the left hand doesn't even know what the right hand is doing. Amen!

_____________________

Regarding your moderation duties, that’s been entrusted to you by His will. You are the one whom God gave the authority (the power on this Reddit) to grant rights to others. Those "others" are the ones seeking the justice that you are meant to provide, which is a right God gave to you in your role as a moderator. What is the point of having rights if they only serve those who already hold power? That makes no sense. If someone in power starts demanding their own "rights," just know they're getting caught up in worldly interests, and that "authority" becomes a test—or even a reason for their downfall. Why should a "ruler" demand rights from their subordinates? Doesn't he already have them? Aren't rights there specifically for the disempowered and the wronged? Like I said, generally speaking, rights are sought by those who lack them, and for God's sake, those who *do* have power are obligated to grant them in His name, because that power was given to them as a trust from Him—and isn't His name the Lord?
Anyway, it's tough on whoever gets power and refuses to pass it on to those searching for it. That person is nothing but a nuisance and a source of chaos, and they clearly don't know how to judge fairly.
But God is just, so He will recognize the good you do in your moderation. It is definitely a good thing that you stood up to defend the sisters, especially sister Sunnah🙂. God rewards abundantly🙂, and God will eventually remove everything that stands in the way of "justice" reaching those who seek it, even if none of us ever post on this forum again.

Anyway, I’m rambling a bit, but I see the good in all of this. To me, it's truly a blessing to be in the same line as the Salafis, the Sufis, and the various schools of thought (the Shia aren't on the forum right now, but they're always welcome).🙂 , Mashallah, we wouldn't have even gotten this far—God willing—if you hadn't gone and united us all with your absolutely twisted way of moderating. Mashallah, God works in mysterious ways...

Anyway, my boycott is still going strong, and honestly—take a look around (it's like "us" barely exists on Reddit anymore, at least not the old crew)—just look at what you've done to this place. This whole thing has turned into nothing but a sub-forum for Religion, and god knows what it’s turning into now. If you can't see that—and if God has truly blinded you to the reality of how things look—then I guess there's some kind of lesson in it, I suppose...

Peace be upon you

How much more damage will they do to Islam before they realize what they've done?
What's worse is they're still doubling down on it...

Scott Nguyen2 said:
Look, at the end of the day... I’m actually glad you noticed that Scott Nguyen2 is finally stepping up and getting involved now—especially since he wouldn't say a single word fifteen days ago when everyone was throwing insults around. You hit the nail on the head with your question: where was he back then to call out the injustice and all the garbage being spewed by his "friends"? Where was he to criticize—even just symbolically—those people writing such nonsense? And then he goes and says he "doesn't want to get involved"... wow, you really caught onto that one! I actually told him in my last post: Simona figured out years ago how shady that kind of behavior is. It's the exact same thing here, and he even went out of his way to say, "Sunnah, don't give up." You totally spotted that too—he’s clearly just trying not to "offend" certain users, specifically the majority he's now desperately protesting against.

Man, there is just so much drama being stirred up here. It's all getting a bit too low-level. Once upon a time (since we're so obsessed with bringing up the past), I got carried away myself and mentioned the Sandook area in a bad light—and honestly, that’s the only thing I truly regret saying. At the end of the day, brothers are brothers, no matter what kind of person you turn out to be.
Look at us—mashallah—Salafis, Sufis, and followers of different schools all standing together in the same line. Isn't it wild how God works? Let that be an example for us. Isn't His name the Gatherer? My heart would be so full if I could just happily grab a coffee sometime—without all this second-guessing—with C&B, Koby, Bradley Davis33, Dervish, boldgull19, FMN Alem, Jack Wood43, Sunnah, the Charlatan, wearyhawk222, and the rest of you (forgive me if I missed anyone!), just to sit and have a real conversation🙂. There’s just too little time in this life to waste it on hatred and living in bitterness.

I can't really speak for "myself"—that feels ungrateful. I'd rather people criticize me than have someone praise me, because honestly, I'm pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of all this. I'm not forcing anyone to do anything, nor am I asking them to "defend" me or, heaven forbid, "follow" me... let alone anything more serious than that. May God allow it so that when we give, it's done so quietly that the left hand doesn't even know what the right hand is doing. Amen!

_____________________

Regarding your moderation duties, that’s been entrusted to you by His will. You are the one whom God gave the authority (the power on this Reddit) to grant rights to others. Those "others" are the ones seeking the justice that you are meant to provide, which is a right God gave to you in your role as a moderator. What is the point of having rights if they only serve those who already hold power? That makes no sense. If someone in power starts demanding their own "rights," just know they're getting caught up in worldly interests, and that "authority" becomes a test—or even a reason for their downfall. Why should a "ruler" demand rights from their subordinates? Doesn't he already have them? Aren't rights there specifically for the disempowered and the wronged? Like I said, generally speaking, rights are sought by those who lack them, and for God's sake, those who *do* have power are obligated to grant them in His name, because that power was given to them as a trust from Him—and isn't His name the Lord?
Anyway, it's tough on whoever gets power and refuses to pass it on to those searching for it. That person is nothing but a nuisance and a source of chaos, and they clearly don't know how to judge fairly.
But God is just, so He will recognize the good you do in your moderation. It is definitely a good thing that you stood up to defend the sisters, especially sister Sunnah🙂. God rewards abundantly🙂, and God will eventually remove everything that stands in the way of "justice" reaching those who seek it, even if none of us ever post on this forum again.

Anyway, I’m rambling a bit, but I see the good in all of this. To me, it's truly a blessing to be in the same line as the Salafis, the Sufis, and the various schools of thought (the Shia aren't on the forum right now, but they're always welcome).🙂 , Mashallah, we wouldn't have even gotten this far—God willing—if you hadn't gone and united us all with your absolutely twisted way of moderating. Mashallah, God works in mysterious ways...

Anyway, my boycott is still going strong, and honestly—take a look around (it's like "us" barely exists on Reddit anymore, at least not the old crew)—just look at what you've done to this place. This whole thing has turned into nothing but a sub-forum for Religion, and god knows what it’s turning into now. If you can't see that—and if God has truly blinded you to the reality of how things look—then I guess there's some kind of lesson in it, I suppose...

Peace be upon you

And peace be upon you too
dustybear7 dustybear7 Member
12 messages
joined Nov 2012
#106 ·
fadedlynx39 said:POST 1



Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

Hey, moon's here on Earth! Moon, give us a shout!
We aren't even really posting on the forum, we're just here watching you write.
When I say "us," I’m talking about: Musliman.hr, Adura, sjena, Kobi, Kate Phillips40, Kenneth Peterson5, domaćica, Rufaija, brezovka, FMN, InsanInside, and me.
Do you realize you've managed to rally twelve different forum members against yourself and the whole site?
You really chased away the leaders... and everyone else who would've been on our side.
Do you realize that the number of people boycotting you is just going to keep growing?
Do you realize we’re all on one side here and you're just out there on your own?
Do you realize that eventually even the admin team is going to turn their backs on you? The pdf religija is tanking because of how you handle moderation.
Try to look at the bigger picture for a second... Adura said it perfectly when he mentioned that God gave us this perspective so we can see things differently than they actually appear.
Sometimes God lets things slide just to let someone walk right into their own downfall without even realizing it.

Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

You're talking about all those complaints that nobody even bothered to write a single word about.

Kobi: I can't believe I actually thought that was true! My bad, totally slipped my mind. Just a silly little mistake on my part.
Kate Phillips40: I can't believe how much things have changed lately. It feels like everything is moving so fast! Just trying to keep up, honestly.
fadedlynx39: I can't believe how much work I put into this! Honestly, I’m probably overthinking things, but I really hope you guys enjoy reading it. Let me know what you think!

Or just those totally baseless complaints, like:
Rufaija:
homemaker: I can't believe I actually found this! Honestly, such a wild read. Just had to share.

Yeah, you know... same old story.
Basically, dogs bark while the caravan just keeps moving.
And you're still throwing that complaint book in our faces like it's some kind of tool just to belittle us with those vague explanations of yours.

Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

What religion? The one where Satanists thank an atheist Ego for keeping things orderly so believers don't get "attacked" by everyone else?
Are you really grouping atheism and Satanism with actual religions? It’s like an atheist trying to manage the pdf religija... as if the CEO of Pepsi was running Coca-Cola. No wonder Pepsi's struggling...
Do we even need to talk just so you have someone to hand out warnings to?
Go ahead, ban me tonight. That's about 1,000 points. Might give you enough peace to sleep for at least two days.
Are we chatting just so you can act like some grand vizier, filtering our posts and playing the role of the big shot supervisor?
People are literally cursing God and you're just sitting there silent hypocrite!
The way Musliman.hr tries to justify not taking action is just pathetic. Such a weak excuse. Seriously, yikes!
If we were actual Americans, rowdyhawk10, we would have penalized you for insulting anyone's sacred beliefs. That’s how much the admins back you up. Just like you told me once on private message that you were "in charge" of us...
Now you've got usernames like "total garbage sheep" floating around and you're staying quiet like a fish hypocrite

Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

🤣🤣🤣
Should we expect a positive outcome around the year 2019 in the Islamic calendar?
A moderator being unfair? Really?
Listen, don't even think about saying something like that, let alone actually saying it...
That's such heresy... imagining a moderator could be unfair.
So now we're all just kids in a preschool?

Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

Out of ideas, huh?
Well, maybe we are. But wait until you see my "ideas" when you face a lawsuit.
We wouldn't know anything about glory or success. That's reserved for the moderators. They clearly know how to carry the load. Regular folks like us? We couldn't handle it.
People starting to love Islam?
*Your* version of Islam?
The one where you basically greenlight everything people crave?
When are you going to start saying certain marriages are recommended, only to ban anyone who dares disagree? You got kicked out of those other groups for that exact attitude.
In your version of spreading the faith, you even allow people to curse God if it helps them "acknowledge" Him, just like you allowed the trash to pile up and then tried to explain it away to God later. It's intellectually bankrupt. And you honestly think anyone buys your excuses? Yeah, we're just kids in a preschool... we don't get your little intentions.
Honestly, this version of Islam you’re pushing—your specific take on it—is just hard to stomach. It’s honestly nauseating for everyone to deal with your "deep" interpretations. 🤮
I think I'm speaking for pretty much everyone here when I say this.

Man, Dervish... he's become forgettable. Unlike you, Scott Nguyen2. I told him via DM not too long ago: Calm down, because a day will come when you'll make fools of yourselves because of what you're doing now. And then you'll wish for rowdyhawk10, even if he were rising from the mud.

It's obvious. You've been united by your own lack of direction rather than the malice of one man (anyone with eyes can look at points two, three, and four above). And as for those who want to sleep—let them sleep! Life certainly won't stay asleep forever. I'm heading out. You can either wake up, return to the forum, and move past this childishness, or just keep sleeping.

That "one person" you're talking about? That's YOU.
And bringing up Jezid as the ultimate example of terrible teaching is just... wow.
Instead of pointing to those who actually struggled with the Prophet, you pick Jezid, whom certain factions hate even more than the devil himself.
Every time you use the word "ME," you're basically begging for someone to snap back with

"Not you—us." 🤷

Адажио is quite the interesting little piece
silvermason492 silvermason492 Newcomer
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joined Dec 2008
#107 ·
The other day, I came across a beautiful little parable on an online forum—a story shared by a brother—and I wanted to paraphrase it here for you all:

"A little lamb wandered down to a spring to get a drink. Just as it leaned down to sip the water, it caught its own reflection—or rather, it saw the reflection of a wolf standing right behind it, wearing a cunning, self-satisfied grin, ready to strike. The lamb looked up at him and asked:

—What did I ever do to you that makes you want to eat me?

The wolf snapped back:

—Last fall, you insulted my mother!

—But I wasn't even born last fall—the lamb countered.

—Fine, you weren't—the wolf continued—but one day, you muddied the river where I drink!

—But I was drinking downstream from you; there was no way I could have done that!

And so, the wolf simply ate the lamb just to avoid having to finish such a pointless argument."


For quite some time now, I’ve been watching, reading, and feeling increasingly unsettled by the situation unfolding here—a situation that has escalated to a point where it feels like there is no turning back.

It seems the wolf has finally found his calling; he’s relishing being a predator, baring his teeth at everyone, refusing to be anything else—he just wants to remain exactly what he is: a wolf.

I spent four months just observing before I finally decided to register on this forum. Back then, I was truly impressed by the dedication shown over the years by the honorable members here—my brothers and sisters in faith—led by Adura, in their efforts to provide relevant, responsible explanations and interpretations of Islam to the wide audience this forum attracts. I want to emphasize that word *responsibility*, because it’s the most important thing here. What is written here stays here for years, read by thousands of people who might stumble upon it. Therefore, competence paired with responsibility is absolutely vital—especially since we will all answer to God for our actions, including everything we type and leave behind on this platform.

With that sense of duty in mind, I decided to join the discussion regarding "Muslims and Jehovah's Witnesses." My goal was strictly limited: I didn't want to engage in fruitless debates, attempts at conversion, petty low blows, or insults. I simply wanted to present certain facts in dialogue with the Jehovah's Witnesses to offer a humble contribution—so that if anyone were ever torn between Islam and the teachings of the Jehovah's Witnesses, they might find clear answers to their questions in one place. Initially, the individual we are discussing actually supported me via DM, encouraging me to pursue this path. But when the insults, trolling, and cheap shots started flying at me from others in that thread, that very same person shocked me by suddenly jumping into the fray with these two posts:

To be honest, I was more than a little stunned that a fellow Muslim could hold such a stance... I mean, if they had at least "insulted" the Bible, I might have understood... but in the interest of "keeping the peace," I chose not to kick up a fuss, even if it meant letting that specific topic be lost forever due to such an act.

In the months that followed, that very competence and responsibility that once characterized the majority of the honorable men and women of faith on this forum began to be used as a cudgel by this same individual. With every passing day, I felt more and more dismayed, knowing only one thing for certain:

We are the ones who must adapt to Islam, not force Islam to adapt to us.

This "Islamic reformer"—who hasn't admitted to SINGLE mistake during all of this—clearly hasn't realized that.

The "crowd" he claims has "conspired" against him actually encompasses a massive circle of people. And what’s most striking is that all of us, along with myself, hold vastly different opinions and perspectives on various issues—which I see as a strength, not a weakness. Despite our diverse views, we have all remained united by one fundamental principle:

It’s us who need to adapt ourselves to Islam—not the other way around.

So, from my humble perspective, the tension involving our brother fadedlynx39, Kobi, sister Alem, Sunasce, and that whole group of brothers and sisters isn't actually the root cause... it’s just a symptom of what I mentioned above.

And honestly? Calling a fellow believer a terrorist... that was the absolute breaking point. That’s where things went too far.

Anyway, let me circle back to how this all started.

Kobi, fadedlynx39, BigJason, Adura, Derviš, sjena, FMN, Kenneth Peterson5, Rufaija, brezovka, and myself—we aren't some helpless lambs being led to slaughter here.

As for you, rowdyhawk10—go ahead and show your teeth... though we both know they were fake to begin with.

Selam.
rowdyhawk10 rowdyhawk10 Active Member
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#108 ·





dustybear7 said:Every time you use the word "ME," you're basically begging for someone to snap back with

"Not you—us." 🤷

Адажио is quite the interesting little piece



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Kenneth Peterson5 Kenneth Peterson5 Active Member
124 messages
joined Nov 2007
#109 ·
Kenneth Peterson5 said:I’m reading this above—I shortened the quote since we all know the deal—and I honestly just can't believe it. I don't even know what to say, other than I am absolutely disgusted by the fact that one moderator actually had the nerve to label several users who interpret the Quran differently than him as members of a TERRORIST MOVEMENT.

Any reasonable person can see from this that decapitation (for someone leaving any religion) is considered anti-civilization from the standpoint of all global human rights charters.

Because choosing one's faith is a fundamental personal right. Oh, Scott Nguyen2! 🙄

That's all on that. I won't be responding to anything else because regarding your PREVIOUS post, I already told you that no actual arguments were provided. I am officially bowing out of any further discussion with you on this matter. Firstly, I don't have the time, and I certainly don't feel like writing essays about something I've already explained multiple times—something you well know isn't true (even though you persist): that this is not a place to promote terrorism or anti-civilization ideological norms. For the last time, for both you, ruggedstag7, and anyone else still confused: this is not a place to promote violence, terrorism, or anti-civilization ideological norms. The guidelines must be respected; those who follow them are welcome here. Those who don't, well, goodbye. I'm stepping away now; feel free to continue your boycott and protests.🙄 Hello

I seriously cannot believe that this kind of "LABELING" certain handles has been allowed to happen, is happening, and will keep happening.

It feels terrible even typing this out on this thread, and for the last two days, I’ve been constantly spiraling, wondering what I can even do about this whole situation. Does it even matter if someone who isn't even Muslim weighs in? People might claim I don't understand the essence of things, but honestly, such a massive injustice has been done—especially to the person behind the Black & White handle—that I simply cannot stay silent. Staying quiet would basically mean giving a pass to the person who is totally violating this entire situation, and I refuse to even say their name until they realize how wrong their actions actually are.

In the end, I just don't get why there wasn't a massive group protest after Black & White was permanently banned, or at least after he apologized to everyone in this post, which—in my opinion—was a rare display of actual humanity. So, I'm not just angry at the moderators and admins; I'm disappointed in all of you too. It seems people only started complaining once things blew up in the "Interfaith marriage" thread and got amplified by the "Church against gay marriage" stuff. It’s like any other injustice is somehow less important than what happened to the Black & White handle, while the dishonest, arrogant, and irresponsible administration...She hasn't announced it even once.

Honestly, I'm actually kind of glad she isn't Muslim—so feel free to all get pissed off at me if you want—but let's be real, every single one of you has been feeding me that exact same image (with the exception of boldgull19 and that permanently banned guy Black&White from Reddit).
Ever since that quote popped up here, my conscience has been absolutely eating me alive—it really hit home just how badly I messed up.
I don't know if any of this will actually land with you guys, but I truly regret what I said and I feel like garbage about it.
I’m asking all of you for forgiveness, or at least some understanding from someone who only jumped into this mess because I couldn't stand seeing how unfairly fadedlynx39 was being treated—and then, in a moment of pure heat and misplaced ego, I let something really ugly slip out.

Once again, my sincere apologies to everyone.
Mark Torres14 Mark Torres14 Regular
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joined Nov 2008
#110 ·
Only real leaders have the guts to admit when they're wrong. And the truly great ones? They actually go out and ask for forgiveness from the people they wronged. Major props to Kenneth Peterson5.🙏
hollowtrucker77 hollowtrucker77 Regular
681 messages
joined Nov 2007
#111 ·
Hey everyone, I think we’ve pretty much beaten this particular topic to death at this point
If my memory serves me right, there’s another thread out there that actually gets straight to the point rather than just circling the drain

SINCE I WAS WARNED THAT LOCKING THIS THREAD WOULD BE MISINTERPRETED AS THE MODS TRYING TO SILENCE ANYONE LOOKING TO FILE A FORMAL COMPLAINT, LET ME RESTATE FOR THE RECORD: THERE IS A SPECIFIC THREAD DEDICATED TO APPEALS AGAINST SHADIYA

Look, folks, we really need to maintain some level of decorum on this board; you can't just go around treating every single moderation move like it's some personal vendetta being waged against you
Everyone is more than welcome to keep the conversation going, provided you head over to the appropriate thread where it belongs

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