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Hormonal Contraception: The Pill [General Discussion]

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Jack Harris3 Jack Harris3 Regular
451 messages
joined Dec 2002
#381 ·
Justin Gonzalez87 said:Why? Please explain it to me. 😢
I'm on birth control pills and I smoke quite a bit... I just can't seem to kick the habit no matter what I try.😢
I mean, I'm not going through two packs a day like I was a few months back, now I'm down to just one.😢

It's the risk of blood clots...
darkbison81 darkbison81 Active Member
169 messages
joined Feb 2003
#382 ·
Jack Harris3 said:Look, I’m going to be blunt because someone needs to say it: we need to talk about the very real danger of thrombosis. It isn't some abstract medical term you can just ignore while you're scrolling through your feed; it’s a legitimate threat that people tend to brush off until it’s way too late. I know, I know—I sound like I'm lecturing you, and honestly, maybe I am. I’m not a doctor, and I’m certainly not trying to play one. I’m just someone who thinks we spend far too much time being complacent about our health. We live in a world where sitting in an office chair for eight hours straight or lounging on a cross-country flight feels like "normal" behavior, but biologically speaking, it’s a recipe for disaster. When you sit still for extended periods, your circulation slows down. That's just physics. When the blood flow stagnates, you're essentially inviting clots to start forming in your veins. If one of those clots breaks loose and travels to your lungs—pulmonary embolism territory—you aren't just looking at a hospital visit; you're looking at a life-altering crisis. I’ve always been a bit of a worrier, and yeah, maybe that makes me a bit high-strung, but I'd rather be overly cautious than regretful. It’s about the small, almost annoying adjustments: getting up to stretch every hour, staying hydrated, and actually moving your legs when you've been stationary. It sounds tedious, and frankly, it is. It’s much easier to just stay slumped in the couch, but that ease comes at a massive cost. Don't wait for a warning sign that might never come. By the time you feel the swelling or the sharp pain, the damage might already be done. Take it seriously. Move around. Don't let complacency be the thing that catches you off guard.

Look, Jack Harris3 already knows how this works.
Look, let’s be real for a second. Taking that pill alone already bumps up your risk of thrombosis, but if you're pairing it with smoking? You're basically playing with fire. That combination spikes the danger significantly. It's not just a minor concern; it's a serious physiological gamble.
Casey Palmer5 Casey Palmer5 Regular
470 messages
joined Jan 2016
#383 ·
And why is mixing exercise with smoking such a bad idea? Is it because of too many free radicals or something?...

I haven't touched birth control in at least five years. I only used it back when staying pregnant was just too risky. Honestly, they never really agreed with me—I just wasn't a fan of the whole artificial hormone thing. These days, I just stick to latex 😁
Justin Gonzalez87 Justin Gonzalez87 Active Member
78 messages
joined May 2005
#384 ·
Jack Harris3 said:The risk of thrombosis...


Jack—brains and ego don't usually play nice together. 😁
What are we talking about here? How much of a risk is this—actually, what are the odds I end up with a clot? Is it serious? If it’s a certainty, I’m probably next.😁
darkbison81 darkbison81 Active Member
169 messages
joined Feb 2003
#385 ·
Casey Palmer5 said:So why exactly is combining cardio with smoking such a bad move? Is it just an overkill of free radicals or what?

Oh, because Casey Palmer5 clearly has all the answers.🙂
Yeah, you’re basically just oxidizing yourself from head to toe.
darkbison81 darkbison81 Active Member
169 messages
joined Feb 2003
#386 ·
Justin Gonzalez87 said:What even is that? How much of a risk are we talking about—like, what’s the actual probability I’ll end up with a thrombosis? Is it seriously that bad? If it's a certainty, I'm definitely going to be the one who gets hit by it.😁

A clot is basically just a mass of blood that can plug up an artery. If that happens in your brain, heart, or lungs, you're looking at something incredibly dangerous. As for your odds? Honestly, I have no clue. You see people living their whole lives with this stuff without a single issue, but then you see 25-year-old women dropping dead from strokes.
It's bad, plain and simple, as you can clearly see. 😁
Nothing in life is a guarantee, including the idea that you'll be "lucky" enough to dodge it. But if I were you, I'd try my best not to become another statistic. 🙂
Casey Palmer5 Casey Palmer5 Regular
470 messages
joined Jan 2016
#387 ·
Well, darkbison81 makes a good point—once a blood clot breaks loose and heads toward your lungs, heart, or brain, everything just goes south fast... I mean, it’s not a guaranteed disaster for everyone, but you definitely don't want to be writing this stuff down...

The odds are slim, sure, but they definitely creep up if you're a heavy smoker. If I were in your shoes, I'd try to cut the cigarettes down to an absolute minimum or just give them up entirely.
I'd also suggest getting your blood clotting levels checked every now and then.

Maybe consider taking a low-dose 81mg aspirin occasionally? But honestly, you should definitely sit down with your doctor to talk through your specific situation.
Henry Wilson48 Henry Wilson48 Member
29 messages
joined Mar 2003
#388 ·
darkbison81 said:It’s not my fault, Winnie is the one to blame for pulling my tongue. And since science is basically dead right now anyway, I had to seize the moment. 😁 From here on out, I’m staying silent, keeping all the secrets of the universe strictly to myself. 😁

(Forget the Nobel Prize, I’m way too old for that anyway 😁)

If we don't get a Nobel, maybe we can aim for an article in Cell or something like that.

You know, just so this little town can finally have something to be proud of. 😁
Henry Wilson48 Henry Wilson48 Member
29 messages
joined Mar 2003
#389 ·
Justin Gonzalez87 said:Why? Please explain it to me. 😢
I'm on pills and I smoke quite a bit too; I just can't seem to kick the habit no matter what I do.😢
Though, I'm not tearing through two packs a day like I was a few months back—I've scaled down to one now.😢

Justin Gonzalez87, seriously, quit smoking already. Don't go setting a terrible example for Kenneth Hernandez67's little one, you hear me?
darkbison81 darkbison81 Active Member
169 messages
joined Feb 2003
#390 ·
Henry Wilson48 said:If it isn’t a Nobel, let’s aim for a paper in Cell or something along those lines.

Look, if we’re going to make this little town actually mean something, we might as well go big. 😁

🙏 I have to tip my hat to you—quoting Cell 🙏 even though you aren't exactly a biologist.
(Are you taking orders? Because if so, I'll take a Nature paper, or honestly, Science works too. 😁 )
Casey Palmer5 Casey Palmer5 Regular
470 messages
joined Jan 2016
#391 ·
darkbison81, here’s a little curse for you: I hope you end up being the first author in both Nature and Science! Is that nasty enough? 😁
darkbison81 darkbison81 Active Member
169 messages
joined Feb 2003
#392 ·
Casey Palmer5 said:Hey darkbison81, here’s a little curse for you: I hope you end up being the first author on papers in both Nature and Science! Is that nasty enough for you? 😁

Casey Palmer5, you want to be my mentor? Honestly, that’s a pretty bold move on your part. I appreciate the confidence, really, I do—it’s almost charming in a way—but let's be realistic for a second. You're stepping up to offer guidance, yet I'm sitting here wondering if we even speak the same language when it comes to getting things done. I don't need someone to hold my hand through every minor setback, and I certainly don't need a lecture. If you've actually got something useful to contribute, fine, bring it to the table. But don't expect me to just nod along because you've decided you're in charge. Let's see if you can actually back up that ambition first. 😘 😍 🙂 😉

Well, that’s it for me, ladies. I’m done. I’m heading off to sleep on the kitchen tiles. 😁 Everything else is just too hot. Honestly, if I had a balcony, I’d probably just end up sleeping out there.
Justin Gonzalez87 Justin Gonzalez87 Active Member
78 messages
joined May 2005
#393 ·
Thanks for the response.😢
Platelets won't work for me—not my thing.😁
Chihuahua

P.S. Hey, @darkbison81, does thrombosis have any genetic component? Just wondering—if there’s no family history, does it change things?😕
Casey Palmer5 Casey Palmer5 Regular
470 messages
joined Jan 2016
#394 ·
Look, Luce is home with her genes, but I can tell you from experience that genetics definitely plays a role in this whole thing.

Basically, if there’s anyone in your family who’s dealt with deep vein thrombosis, a stroke, or a heart attack—you really need to watch what you're doing (especially regarding how much you smoke).
And even if your family history is totally clear... well, you should still be careful...😁
Justin Gonzalez87 Justin Gonzalez87 Active Member
78 messages
joined May 2005
#395 ·
Absolute nonsense. Everyone stays perfectly healthy and we all kick the bucket at 100.--😁
Thanks—I’ll certainly give it my best shot.--🙂
Chihuahua😁
Gary Sanchez Gary Sanchez Active Member
59 messages
joined Dec 2004
#396 ·
Henry Wilson48 said:I already know all that, and I'm still not buying any. Condoms are the rule!

That's me. 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏
Chloe Nguyen3 Chloe Nguyen3 Member
40 messages
joined Jul 2003
#397 ·
I’ve been wondering about something: why don't women who've already had kids go for the IUD? Seriously, if anyone here actually knows their stuff, let me know. And why can't women who haven't given birth yet—but plan to—use them? Also, what's the deal with diaphragms?🙏 🙏
Justin Gonzalez87 Justin Gonzalez87 Active Member
78 messages
joined May 2005
#398 ·
Chloe Nguyen3 said:I’ve been wondering about something—why don't women who have given birth opt for the IUD?

Allergies, for one. 😁
John Thomas2 John Thomas2 Active MemberOP
88 messages
joined Feb 2012
#399 ·
I know all this, but I don't give a damn. 😳

Everything worth doing in life is bad for you anyway. 😁
I smoke a pack a day and yeah, I know I'm high risk... but whatever! I also knew this woman who spent her entire life obsessing over organic food, never touched a cigarette—actually, she hated when other people smoked near her—never drank, never ate sugar, worked out every single day, and still ended up with lung cancer at 35. 😢
darkbison81 darkbison81 Active Member
169 messages
joined Feb 2003
#400 ·
John Thomas2 said:Everything worth doing in life is bad for you anyway. 😁

It’s either harmful to your health, makes you gain weight, or it’s just plain immoral. 😉

Look, CJ, at the end of the day, who other people think is irrelevant; what matters is what you’re doing to yourself. It’s a shame you’re cranking up your own risk profile like this. And honestly, if you have to choose between having sex and smoking cigarettes, the choice should be pretty obvious, right? 😉

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