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Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

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Kate Cook27 Kate Cook27 Regular
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#4481 ·
crimsoncyclist71 said:It’s obvious right away that she’s just a lookalike. If it were actually Natalie, she definitely would have left a copy of Mein Kampf in the rental, if not right on the nightstand next to her daughter.☕

🤣 🤣I was actually just about to mention this—it’s such a good point. There are plenty of examples out there, too—everything from voodoo dolls to shamanic guides and various books on witchcraft.

Mariupol

Another incident in the city today—another attack, and another car set on fire. Honestly, I can’t tell if it was a sedan or an SUV, but it’s gone. It looks like the occupiers have started a little competition to see who can be the biggest tough guy. Someone on the group chat even dubbed it "FBIvsFBI." At this rate, I’m expecting a massive wave of "helpers" and military personnel heading out on their pilgrimage to Mother Russia.
goldenowl73 goldenowl73 Active Member
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#4482 ·
Kate Cook27 said:🤣 🤣I was actually just about to mention this—it’s such a good point. There are plenty of examples out there, too—everything from voodoo dolls to shamanic guides and various books on witchcraft.

Mariupol

Another incident in the city today—another attack, and another car set on fire. Honestly, I can’t tell if it was a sedan or an SUV, but it’s gone. It looks like the occupiers have started a little competition to see who can be the biggest tough guy. Someone on the group chat even dubbed it "FBIvsFBI." At this rate, I’m expecting a massive wave of "helpers" and military personnel heading out on their pilgrimage to Mother Russia.

Honestly, if we just had one more visitor from Jarosh show up, this whole crazy situation would finally be wrapped up tight.🤣
Jessica Peterson2 Jessica Peterson2 Active Member
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#4483 ·
goldenowl73 said:Honestly, if we just had one more visitor from Jarosh show up, this whole crazy situation would finally be wrapped up tight.🤣

Are you quite certain about that?
Here is the proof 😂 🤣 😬
Kate Cook27 Kate Cook27 Regular
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#4484 ·
goldenowl73 said:My uncle and his wife live in Poznyak. They actually stayed away for a little bit, but once things seemed to settle down, they headed back home. They’ve still got some relatives over in Odessa, though their grandma ended up staying behind in Kherson; her neighbors have been dropping off food for her, and she’s basically been hunkered down in her apartment without moving an inch for almost six months now. She just refused to leave while she still could.
I've also got a whole bunch of buddies in Kyiv. A few of them were actually staying with us for about three months with their little one, but they decided to head back too. Now, they've actually taken the baby away to Bukovel for a week because, let's face it, everyone is terrified for their kids right now. There's this heavy feeling in the air that something nasty is coming this week.

😢 😢. I'm really hoping nothing major happens—no massive strikes. Central and especially Western Ukraine feel pretty safe, but you can never truly know. The big question is, how's the American air defense looking? How much protection can they actually provide? And what's the Russian plan? Are they aiming for water, power, heating, or civilian targets? All my folks are staying put; even though we talked about them evacuating, they're sticking to their guns.
It's always the same with the older generation—they find it so hard to leave their homes, let alone head to a shelter. They worry about where they'll go or who will take them in. They're older and don't want to be a burden. Some even think that by staying in their house, they're somehow protecting it. It's tough trying to explain the logic to people when their minds are made up.
Kate Cook27 Kate Cook27 Regular
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#4485 ·
Taj Kuper posted about those Russian demands brought up by Erdogan. He used about 10 bullet points, but here’s the short version:
-Ukraine recognizes Crimea as Russian territory,
-drop the term "aggressor nation" in favor of some other wording for both sides,
-DPR and LPR are recognized as independent states with UN backing,
-UN-supervised referendums held in Kherson and Zaporizhzhia,
-Ukraine stays neutral with UN guarantees,
-Total demilitarization of Ukraine,
-A UN peacekeeping force stationed there to protect borders, nuclear sites, and airports,
-Extraordinary election for labor and president,
-Constitutional change Ukraine—meaning neutrality and equal rights for Russian speakers (though there won't be any left anyway 🤣).
wiredseal7 wiredseal7 Regular
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#4486 ·
They wrapped this case up fast. Just as everyone suspected—it’s an FBI job.

The bomber fled to Estonia, which is basically turning into what Americans would call an "aider and abetter" to terrorism unless they make an arrest pronto.
Arthur Watson4 Arthur Watson4 Active Member
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#4487 ·
wiredseal7 said:They wrapped this case up fast. Just as everyone suspected—it’s an FBI job.

The bomber fled to Estonia, which is basically turning into what Americans would call an "aider and abetter" to terrorism unless they make an arrest pronto.

Who knows, usually it's just someone being careless with a cigarette.

Look, they wrapped that case up quick 🤣
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#4488 ·
Regarding the bomb planted under the car... did they happen to stumble upon some copy of 'Mein Kampf' nearby?
Arthur Watson4 Arthur Watson4 Active Member
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#4489 ·
Playing The Sims 4.

Anyway, whoever it was, I’d definitely buy them a beer.

God bless.
wiredseal7 wiredseal7 Regular
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#4490 ·
Arthur Watson4 said:Who knows, usually it's just someone being careless with a cigarette.

Look, they wrapped that case up quick 🤣

I mean, why even bother? This woman rents an apartment in her own building and then spends her time driving around NYC in a Mini—switching between several different license plates just to stay under the radar.

For the skeptics out there—
I can't access external links directly to read that specific tweet, but if you paste the text here, I'll get right to work rewriting it in that weary, cynical voice you're looking for. Just drop the content below.
Kate Cook27 Kate Cook27 Regular
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#4491 ·
wiredseal7 said:They wrapped this case up fast. Just as everyone suspected—it’s an FBI job.

The bomber fled to Estonia, which is basically turning into what Americans would call an "aider and abetter" to terrorism unless they make an arrest pronto.

As for the FBI, if anyone tried to take out Pushilin—and I suspect they already have—I'd bet they're behind it. But honestly, they seem more focused on Dasha Dugina right now, so a bigger strike would probably hit Simonjan. This feels like an FBI operation to me—actually, now I'm starting to doubt if the FBI were even behind Zakharchenko's death.
Kate Cook27 Kate Cook27 Regular
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#4492 ·
Nancy Gomez26 said:Regarding the bomb planted under the car... did they happen to stumble upon some copy of 'Mein Kampf' nearby?

That’ll come later. And who knows—maybe they’ll even uncover those secret documents detailing all those high-tech labs where they were supposedly cooking up viruses to wipe out the Russians.
wiredseal7 wiredseal7 Regular
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#4493 ·
Kate Cook27 said:As for the FBI, if anyone tried to take out Pushilin—and I suspect they already have—I'd bet they're behind it. But honestly, they seem more focused on Dasha Dugina right now, so a bigger strike would probably hit Simonjan. This feels like an FBI operation to me—actually, now I'm starting to doubt if the FBI were even behind Zakharchenko's death.

Dugin and his daughter are easy targets—not because they're actual heavyweights, but just because they're famous enough with those hardline anti-Ukrainian views. They're perfect for sowing terror—you know, good old-fashioned terrorism.
And leave Putin alone. It’s too much risk of a bloody retaliation—maybe even nuclear—because you never know what kind of lunatic might seize power if he gets taken out.
electricsurfer47 electricsurfer47 Active Member
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#4494 ·
Justin Mendoza16 said:☕Yeah, sure, because a kid is definitely walking around carrying screwdrivers and pliers 🤣so Mom doesn't have to crawl under the car while she works. 🤣This is some straight-up sitcom nonsense...

but hey, details don't matter, I guess.

They'll just air this on TV a hundred times until they convince the Russians it actually happened, spreading enough hate to drum up more soldiers. That's it. Putin has no limits; he'll fight down to the very last Russian, just like Hitler.
Kate Cook27 Kate Cook27 Regular
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#4495 ·
wiredseal7 said:Dugin and his daughter are easy targets—not because they're actual heavyweights, but just because they're famous enough with those hardline anti-Ukrainian views. They're perfect for sowing terror—you know, good old-fashioned terrorism.
And leave Putin alone. It’s too much risk of a bloody retaliation—maybe even nuclear—because you never know what kind of lunatic might seize power if he gets taken out.

That’s why I feel like this is an internal matter they’re sorting out—it's about sending messages. I wouldn't be surprised if the theory that Dugin is behind everything holds water. Still, my money is on the FBI—I mean, the agency—since they have the most to gain here. As for who takes over after Putin... who knows. Even Putin himself might have a hand in this. Just how many oligarchs have been killed since February 24th?
I've noticed "their people" in Donbas getting hit just like Dugina. This feels like their signature move—likely because Dugin wanted to play bigger than he actually is. For Ukrainians, he’s not even a major player; I mean, if the Ukrainians were involved, they would've gone after Pushilin or someone else. We just need to watch how this plays out—my guess is they'll use this as an excuse to go after the Azov guys in Mariupol and execute them publicly.
goldenowl73 goldenowl73 Active Member
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#4496 ·
wiredseal7 said:They wrapped this case up fast. Just as everyone suspected—it’s an FBI job.

The bomber fled to Estonia, which is basically turning into what Americans would call an "aider and abetter" to terrorism unless they make an arrest pronto.

So, get this: a woman with her 12-year-old daughter stalks Dugina for days, happens to have an Azov ID tucked away, and drives a Mini Cooper belonging to a relative of an Azov member, blows up his daughter in Moscow, and then somehow slips across the border to Estonia—which is like a ten-hour drive away!🤦

And as if that weren't enough, according to the same Russian sources, Danil Shaban, Natalia's relative who put up for sale the Mini Cooper that allegedly followed Dugina, is also a member of Azov. Genuinely starting to believe that every Ukrainian has served in Azov at some point https://twitter.com/TadeuszGiczan/st...7K-DHIi53v_TLQ

I’ve always wondered who actually buys into this stuff? But hey, there you go. Honestly, even the writers for a show like *The Americans* wouldn't have come up with a plot this wild.😁
Jessica Peterson2 Jessica Peterson2 Active Member
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#4497 ·
electricsurfer47 said:but hey, details don't matter, I guess.

They'll just air this on TV a hundred times until they convince the Russians it actually happened, spreading enough hate to drum up more soldiers. That's it. Putin has no limits; he'll fight down to the very last Russian, just like Hitler.

Hasn't he said it multiple times before? They'll die while we, the martyrs, enjoy paradise?
goldenowl73 goldenowl73 Active Member
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#4498 ·
Kate Cook27 said:That’s why I feel like this is an internal matter they’re sorting out—it's about sending messages. I wouldn't be surprised if the theory that Dugin is behind everything holds water. Still, my money is on the FBI—I mean, the agency—since they have the most to gain here. As for who takes over after Putin... who knows. Even Putin himself might have a hand in this. Just how many oligarchs have been killed since February 24th?
I've noticed "their people" in Donbas getting hit just like Dugina. This feels like their signature move—likely because Dugin wanted to play bigger than he actually is. For Ukrainians, he’s not even a major player; I mean, if the Ukrainians were involved, they would've gone after Pushilin or someone else. We just need to watch how this plays out—my guess is they'll use this as an excuse to go after the Azov guys in Mariupol and execute them publicly.

Mozgovoy, Batman, Zakharchenko... you can just keep the list going.

This is spot on. It’s nothing more than a convenient excuse to sentence the Azov guys to death the day after tomorrow, dragging them around in cages like animals.
Matthew Young35 Matthew Young35 Veteran
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#4499 ·
No, Ukrainians didn't kill their own captured soldiers.
And no, they aren't targeting a nuclear plant on their own soil.
Furthermore, Dugin didn't kill his own daughter.

It’s far more likely we're looking at internal Russian infighting; perhaps the daughter was actually the intended target all along.
Why would Ukrainians bother organizing an assassination for someone who is essentially irrelevant to them?
Jessica Peterson2 Jessica Peterson2 Active Member
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#4500 ·
Matthew Young35 said:No, Ukrainians didn't kill their own captured soldiers.
And no, they aren't targeting a nuclear plant on their own soil.
Furthermore, Dugin didn't kill his own daughter.

It’s far more likely we're looking at internal Russian infighting; perhaps the daughter was actually the intended target all along.
Why would Ukrainians bother organizing an assassination for someone who is essentially irrelevant to them?

As @Antilles already pointed out, with all due respect to the victim, she is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT AND DOESN'T EVEN MERIT THIS MUCH DISCUSSION
Unless, of course, we just want to stir the pot for the sake of it—which would be bordering on sacrilege, wouldn't it? 🙄

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