Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

goldenowl73 said:Mozgovoy, Batman, Zakharchenko... you can just keep the list going.

This is spot on. It’s nothing more than a convenient excuse to sentence the Azov guys to death the day after tomorrow, dragging them around in cages like animals.

A lot of them fall when they try to overstep their bounds or act bigger than they're allowed to be. That’s why Pushilin has stayed in power since 2014—he knows exactly where he stands. Everyone else wanted a bigger slice of the pie, so they got taken out. Mozgovoy is a whole different story, though. There were too many rivals for him—maybe even someone from that girl's family, back when people were arguing about how much she was to blame for walking into her rapist's house. I think there was even some kind of revolt against him in Russia, too. He talked way too much about those wild theories of his, claiming he'd arrest every woman he saw in a movie theater, a cafe, or just walking down the street. And then you have the total mysteries that are V. Bolotov and A. Zakharchenko.

It’s like what happened before the attack on Olenivka—they're clearing the path right now. I’ve mentioned this before, but videos are surfacing from Mariupol residents claiming that only Ukrainian soldiers and Azov fighters were in the city, destroying everything. There are even clips showing Azov shooting at civilians. This will all serve as their justification. I'm increasingly convinced their big offensive on August 24th will target the trial in Mariupol. Justice isn't exactly a priority in these so-called People's Republics. In Donetsk, they put mercenaries on trial, and apparently, some have even been executed.

Kate Cook27 said:Taj Kuper posted about those Russian demands brought up by Erdogan. He used about 10 bullet points, but here’s the short version:
-Ukraine recognizes Crimea as Russian territory,
-drop the term "aggressor nation" in favor of some other wording for both sides,
-DPR and LPR are recognized as independent states with UN backing,
-UN-supervised referendums held in Kherson and Zaporizhzhia,
-Ukraine stays neutral with UN guarantees,
-Total demilitarization of Ukraine,
-A UN peacekeeping force stationed there to protect borders, nuclear sites, and airports,
-Extraordinary election for labor and president,
-Constitutional change Ukraine—meaning neutrality and equal rights for Russian speakers (though there won't be any left anyway 🤣).

It is painfully obvious they aren't actually interested in negotiating.

nimbleviper3 said:It is painfully obvious they aren't actually interested in negotiating.

Not really. They’re just coming out swinging with extreme demands so they can grab whatever they can get.

Nancy Gomez26 said:Regarding the bomb planted under the car... did they happen to stumble upon some copy of 'Mein Kampf' nearby?

If she was linked to Azov, maybe she’s got a swastika tattooed on her somewhere?😁

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Donna Harris11 said:If she was linked to Azov, maybe she’s got a swastika tattooed on her somewhere?😁

Three. The Sims 4.

Nancy Gomez26 said:Regarding the bomb planted under the car... did they happen to stumble upon some copy of 'Mein Kampf' nearby?

I bet they'll find a full tactical manual written in Ukrainian sitting right next to the vehicle.

Christian Torres3 said:"Quote:"

Three. The Sims 4.

And GTA 5 ☕

So, people have actually started digging through all the evidence online 😬

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FaxTUkWX...jpg&name=small

Edit: That image was way too huge, so I'll just drop this "don't be lazy" link instead of sending you some giant file 😁

goldenowl73 said:So, get this: a woman with her 12-year-old daughter stalks Dugina for days, happens to have an Azov ID tucked away, and drives a Mini Cooper belonging to a relative of an Azov member, blows up his daughter in Moscow, and then somehow slips across the border to Estonia—which is like a ten-hour drive away!🤦

And as if that weren't enough, according to the same Russian sources, Danil Shaban, Natalia's relative who put up for sale the Mini Cooper that allegedly followed Dugina, is also a member of Azov. Genuinely starting to believe that every Ukrainian has served in Azov at some point https://twitter.com/TadeuszGiczan/st...7K-DHIi53v_TLQ

I’ve always wondered who actually buys into this stuff? But hey, there you go. Honestly, even the writers for a show like *The Americans* wouldn't have come up with a plot this wild.😁

. @holodmedia
Compare the number of days it takes to name Darya Dugina's killer to the amount of time spent hunting down those responsible for the assassinations of Boris Nemtsov, human rights activist Natalia Estemirova, and journalist Anna Politkovskaya

Seriously, how do people even deal with arguing with a complete idiot day in and day out?

casualtiger2 said:. @holodmedia
Compare the number of days it takes to name Darya Dugina's killer to the amount of time spent hunting down those responsible for the assassinations of Boris Nemtsov, human rights activist Natalia Estemirova, and journalist Anna Politkovskaya

👍
I mean, after all those political assassinations and "suicides" in Russia, they sure did manage to wrap this one up in record time 👍

It's pretty wild when you think about it—the same government being accused of state terrorism in Washington, D.C., is out here pointing fingers at Ukraine for the exact same thing

German court accuses Russia of 'state terrorism' over 2019 Washington, D.C. park murder

Thomas Long7 said:well, there aren't any irregularities here.

Look, I already mentioned that they can do their own analysis, but when it comes to spotting actual forgery, I’ll leave that to the forensic experts once—and if—they actually get their hands on the paperwork.

Just take a look at the difference in color tones between the left and right seals in this section of the photo.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Faw90slW...jpg&name=large

But hey, let's just play along and assume it's totally legit for a second. Like, imagine some super-secret spy just strolls right into Russia, plants a car bomb while his daughter stands lookout, knows the exact moment Daria Dugina is going to be there, disables all the security cameras, strolls away perfectly fine with Ukrainian documents in hand, and then somehow an Azov ID card just happens to fall out of her bag while she's making a run for Estonia?

Seriously, try telling that story to your buddies over coffee, film their faces, and post it here... I would honestly love to see that reaction. 🙂

Come on guys, let's use a little common sense here... if it helps you wrap your head around it, just pretend this is happening in some remote parts of Africa or somewhere else entirely that doesn't affect you one bit.

Gregory Ramos3 said:Look, I already mentioned that they can do their own analysis, but when it comes to spotting actual forgery, I’ll leave that to the forensic experts once—and if—they actually get their hands on the paperwork.

Just take a look at the difference in color tones between the left and right seals in this section of the photo.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Faw90slW...jpg&name=large

But hey, let's just play along and assume it's totally legit for a second. Like, imagine some super-secret spy just strolls right into Russia, plants a car bomb while his daughter stands lookout, knows the exact moment Daria Dugina is going to be there, disables all the security cameras, strolls away perfectly fine with Ukrainian documents in hand, and then somehow an Azov ID card just happens to fall out of her bag while she's making a run for Estonia?

Seriously, try telling that story to your buddies over coffee, film their faces, and post it here... I would honestly love to see that reaction. 🙂

Come on guys, let's use a little common sense here... if it helps you wrap your head around it, just pretend this is happening in some remote parts of Africa or somewhere else entirely that doesn't affect you one bit.

Different color tones occur simply because different surfaces absorb ink differently. Take a felt-tip marker and scribble on standard printer paper versus photo paper—you'll see the exact same difference.

I am not even venturing into whether this is an original or a fake, but what you see above is absolutely not proof of forgery.

Mariupol

New updates coming out of the city—it’s getting pretty intense. They’ve actually started exhuming people from graves and telling any families still in town that if they don't pay up, the authorities will just bury them wherever they feel like. There's also this growing fear that a full-scale, forced mobilization is right around the corner. Demolition crews are already tearing things down, too—honestly, the true death toll is probably something we'll never actually know.

Meanwhile, over in Luhansk, they’ve basically kicked off a "general mobilization of the general mobilization." It looks like everyone from 18 to 60 is being drafted across both the DNR and LNR territories.

Thomas Long7 said:Different color tones occur simply because different surfaces absorb ink differently. Take a felt-tip marker and scribble on standard printer paper versus photo paper—you'll see the exact same difference.

I am not even venturing into whether this is an original or a fake, but what you see above is absolutely not proof of forgery.

I mean, everything makes sense, but without a deep dive or actually holding the document in my hands, it could go either way. Maybe the only way to be sure is checking the serial number on the booklet against some official registry to see who actually issued it...

But hey, let's just set the visuals aside for a second.

You’ve got the Azov guys, who right now are basically viewed as public enemy number one over in Russia. Like, hardcore extremists who target the Rusiče.

And then you have a member of that same group just wandering around the country, hitting up cultural events, blowing up a car and killing a national darling, and then—not even 96 hours later (total Mission Impossible vibes here)—you’re all proudly posting about how she was identified, only to reveal she somehow slipped away to Estonia. Plus, you’ve got security footage and everything, and people are triumphantly showing off a document proving her affiliation that nobody even knows how or when the Russians got their hands on...

Dafak... I mean, if I were Putin, my head would be on the chopping block for such massive security holes (assuming this is all true), rather than letting the media brag about how this woman pulled off a whole Mission Impossible stunt, only for them to finally figure it out after the damage was already done... 🤦

A player with this kind of skill wouldn't make mistakes that even a preschooler with average intelligence wouldn't make..

Isn't it a little embarrassing for Russia to admit their agent was basically loitering around for days, plotting, causing chaos, and finally taking out the target before slipping across the border into Estonia? 😁 So much for those "powerful" Russians.😁

Megan Thomas5 said:Isn't it a little embarrassing for Russia to admit their agent was basically loitering around for days, plotting, causing chaos, and finally taking out the target before slipping across the border into Estonia? 😁 So much for those "powerful" Russians.😁

Villanelle from "Killing Eve" is basically an amateur compared to this agent... 😁

Megan Thomas5 said:Isn't it a little embarrassing for Russia to admit their agent was basically loitering around for days, plotting, causing chaos, and finally taking out the target before slipping across the border into Estonia? 😁 So much for those "powerful" Russians.😁

What if they let her go on purpose just to see if she'd follow through? They might have known all along.

Megan Thomas5 said:Isn't it a little embarrassing for Russia to admit their agent was basically loitering around for days, plotting, causing chaos, and finally taking out the target before slipping across the border into Estonia? 😁 So much for those "powerful" Russians.😁

Even when Moscow went under, it was pretty obvious that Russians would rather claim everyone is collectively brain-dead than admit Ukrainians actually pulled off something impressive.

They just kept hitting airbases, ammo dumps, and bridges, and now they’ve moved on to this assassination attempt. Typical.

Jose Clark2 said:What if they let her go on purpose just to see if she'd follow through? They might have known all along.

why

Megan Thomas5 said:why

Because someone benefited from it, obviously.