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Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

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goldenowl73 goldenowl73 Active Member
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#4681 ·
silentnomad7 said:It’s been two whole days and not a single soul has weighed in on this...

Erdoğan: Crimea is Ukrainian

Meanwhile, Putin and Erdoğan aren't even breathing a word about it, but honestly, they’re just doing what they always do—picking on the underdog. Now they're coming after Canada just because they showed up to support the Crimean platform.🙄

On Wednesday, Russia threatened retaliation against Canada simply because the country reaffirmed its total support for Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity during Tuesday's Crimean platform conference.
Christian Barnes Christian Barnes Member
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#4682 ·
goldenowl73 said:Meanwhile, Putin and Erdoğan aren't even breathing a word about it, but honestly, they’re just doing what they always do—picking on the underdog. Now they're coming after Canada just because they showed up to support the Crimean platform.🙄

On Wednesday, Russia threatened retaliation against Canada simply because the country reaffirmed its total support for Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity during Tuesday's Crimean platform conference.

Honestly, I think Putin is actually a bit wary of Erdoğan. One move and he could basically shut down the Bosphorus. It's wild to me... Erdoğan could easily just claim Crimea belongs to Turkey. Plus, he's got the leverage to arm certain Islamist groups over in the Caucasus if he really wanted to.
Justin Rogers5 Justin Rogers5 Active Member
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#4683 ·
silentnomad7 said:It’s been two whole days and not a single soul has weighed in on this...

Erdoğan: Crimea is Ukrainian

He gets a pass, but as soon as Canada repeats that at the summit, the Russians start making threats immediately.🤣
Kate Cook27 Kate Cook27 Regular
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joined Jun 2022
#4684 ·
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coastalbison6 said:The Kremlin's propaganda machine is trying to convince people that Ukrainians will just forgive and forget Putin's crimes. They’re drawing parallels to Chechnya and making this ridiculous claim that one day, Ukrainians will join forces with Russians to attack Poland and Germany.
https://twitter.com/juliadavisnews/s...iT3S7kVrlkNoWg

🤣 😂. If the Russians attack Germany alongside Ukrainians, will Mr. Olaf Scholz be standing there saying, "This is Putin's war" then too?🍿.
Kate Cook27 Kate Cook27 Regular
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#4685 ·
nimbleviper3 said:They’re debunking their own lies every single day...
We already knew the US was next on the list. Hopefully, even those who fell for the brainwashing about the "special military operation" to protect Russians in Donbas will finally wake up and realize what's happening now.

Some people are actually starting to wonder why folks in Kyiv and Lviv are walking around freely instead of hiding in basements—or why Russian soldiers and civilians in the Donbas are dying. Maybe a few more people will wake up and realize the truth, though I doubt even those in the Donbas realize they're being used as nothing more than cannon fodder.

On the flip side, there's some chatter in a Russian group claiming an attack on Moscow might be imminent and that public mobilization is coming soon. I’m not buying it, but they're saying the leadership has no other options left—just endless, brutal fighting against Ukrainians who aren't even there.
goldenowl73 goldenowl73 Active Member
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#4686 ·
So, Russia actually tried to pull some shady moves yesterday to shut down Zelensky's speech at the UN regarding Ukrainian Independence Day. Honestly, it was kind of pathetic because absolutely nobody backed them up. Not a single soul.

Russia tried to block Zelensky's speech at the UN Security Council meeting

“Look, we aren't questioning whether the President of Ukraine should participate, we just have issues with him giving his speech via video link,” the Russian representative claimed.

But the UN Security Council wasn't having any of it—they put it to a vote instead, and with a massive 13 votes in favor, they decided to go ahead and invite the president of Ukraine. The Russian representative voted against it, while the representative from China just sat on the sidelines and abstained.
Carl Lee27 Carl Lee27 Regular
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#4687 ·
Monuments to the occupiers are coming down fast across Eastern Europe
https://twitter.com/IlvesToomas/stat...05460234752002
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/statu...02547282550786
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/statu...77218472116225
Thomas Walker84 Thomas Walker84 Active Member
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#4688 ·
wiredseal7 said:Check out this "Peacekeeper" hit list—which somehow includes our own Commander-in-Chief (Joe Biden)—leaked right on a NATO domain:

https://twitter.com/timand2037/statu...zlM0blaPLrCLaw

None of this is actually true. 😵

A NATO domain? That's funny. 🤣
Thomas Walker84 Thomas Walker84 Active Member
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#4689 ·
feralhawk45 said:Now even Baric is starting to look like an optimist to me. Back when the war first kicked off—February 24, 2022, at 4:00 AM local time—I predicted that if the Ukrainians could just hold out for seven days, we were looking at a minimum three-year conflict. But seeing how they’ve organized their economy and civilian life under fire... it's a different story.
Over the next year or two, they’re going to build up a serious professional military using rotations similar to our National Guard brigades. Once everything falls into place, they'll pull off a massive mobilization—roughly 2 million soldiers—and launch a full-scale liberation offensive. By then, the sanctions will have already done their damage to Russia.

I think you might be right, though there's a chance that if luck strikes or if the Russians show a shred of common sense—or if that Kremlin gnome finally kicks the bucket—we might see a peaceful reintegration in exchange for lifting sanctions. Honestly, almost nobody is going to recognize the occupation of Donbas or Crimea.

Or maybe it lands somewhere in between. Once those 2 million well-equipped Ukrainians launch their own version of a massive offensive and start pushing the Russian forces back, the Russians will probably be the ones suggesting a "peaceful integration." Of course, they'll play the victim, acting like they were totally innocent and unprovoked.
Thomas Stewart8 Thomas Stewart8 Member
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#4690 ·
Thomas Walker84 said:A NATO domain? That's funny. 🤣

It’s not NATO, it’s "NATO's."

Honestly, that level of literacy fits the profile of those types perfectly.
😁
casualcrane20 casualcrane20 Member
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#4691 ·
Justin Mendoza16 said:😵😵😵 what absolute idiots...

These morons don't even get it yet. By invading Ukraine, they basically built themselves an iron curtain right on the border that's gonna stay there for at least the next 100 years. They’re gonna get kicked out of Ukrainian territory, period. Plus, those sanctions? They're gonna absolutely wreck their economy and lifestyle for years to come...

🙂I was reading this in the news yesterday, can't remember if it was the New York Times or the Wall Street Journal...

Foreign companies in Russia make up about 12% of the workforce.
The fallout from them leaving is huge—economic activity is tanking, and we're talking over a thousand companies that account for roughly 40% of the Russian GDP.

In that same publication, specifically in the WSJ, you see this:

"THE 'MAGICIANS' OF THE KREMLIN
Why hasn't Russia's economy collapsed yet? These three factors explain how Putin prevented a total meltdown."
https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-russia-economy-hasn-t-collapsed-yet-15239041
where those three reasons are explained.
Kyle Nelson2 Kyle Nelson2 Regular
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#4692 ·
I guess I'm wondering, what time of year does the wind actually blow from the west over in Ukraine? Is there any kind of seasonal pattern to it or is it just totally random?
casualcrane20 casualcrane20 Member
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#4693 ·
Carl Lee27 said:Monuments to the occupiers are coming down fast across Eastern Europe
https://twitter.com/IlvesToomas/stat...05460234752002
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/statu...02547282550786
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/statu...77218472116225

This just gives Putin more ammunition. Now they can go ahead and erect monuments to their own Nazis who died fighting the Red Army.
Gregory Ramos3 Gregory Ramos3 Active Member
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#4694 ·
The Zaporizhzhia plant is totally out of commission right now:
A fire broke out in some ash pits at a coal power plant sitting right near the Zaporizhzhia nuclear facility—which, by the way, is the biggest one in all of Europe. The flames actually managed to wreck the power lines that link the whole nuclear plant to the Ukrainian electrical grid.

So, basically, the last two active reactors over at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear site—which is currently under Russian occupation—went dark this Thursday because that nearby fire messed up the overhead power lines, according to what Energoatom, the state energy company in Ukraine, put out there.
wiredseal7 wiredseal7 Regular
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#4695 ·
Anthony Hill5 said:"NATO" is simply the username of the individual posting on Peacekeeper. Honestly, if Putin's trolls smeared filth on a piece of bread and handed it to you to eat, wouldn't you claim you've never tasted a better Nutella?

You're being shallow—you didn't even bother looking at the second image.

You can check this yourself—it's an SVG (with 'peacekeeper' written in Cyrillic), and if you use the browser inspector, it's pretty obvious the Peacekeeper site is loading it from a domain hosted at natocdn.net:

https://psb4ukr.natocdn.net/logos/links/myrfm.svg

If you plug 'natocdn.net' into somewhere like: https://ipinfo.info/html/ip_checker.php

It spits out an address in Brussels.

So, who's really the troll here?

But hey, if someone registered "natocdn.net" with a Brussels address just to mess with us, I'll give them a solid A+.
Thomas Walker84 Thomas Walker84 Active Member
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#4696 ·
That peacekeeper guy has his own domain at myrotvorets.news, and that's actually where that screenshot came from.

Regarding that subdomain you mentioned (psb4ukr.natocdn.net/logos/ etc.), they’re likely just hosting standardized logos for various organizations there. Honestly, anyone can link to them.

I see your point, though; it's true that the psb4ukr.org domain (I won't post a direct link because the images are pretty nasty) redirects straight to the peacekeeper site.
Matthew Young35 Matthew Young35 Veteran
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#4697 ·
I’ve been following this casually, but did someone here mix up the domain and the hosting?
What exactly is the connection between a domain and an IP address?
(I mean, obviously they're linked, but you know what I'm getting at... a domain and an IP address aren't the same thing.)
wiredseal7 wiredseal7 Regular
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#4698 ·
Thomas Walker84 said:That peacekeeper guy has his own domain at myrotvorets.news, and that's actually where that screenshot came from.

Regarding that subdomain you mentioned (psb4ukr.natocdn.net/logos/ etc.), they’re likely just hosting standardized logos for various organizations there. Honestly, anyone can link to them.

I see your point, though; it's true that the psb4ukr.org domain (I won't post a direct link because the images are pretty nasty) redirects straight to the peacekeeper site.

Yeah, I get that, but it’s not like they just grabbed a NATO logo or some other group's branding—it's their own.
The link I sent opens up a vector file that clearly says 'peacekeeper' in Cyrillic.
Donna Harris11 Donna Harris11 Active Member
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#4699 ·
They've finally started tearing down and demolishing those monuments dedicated to the fallen Red Army soldiers.

https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/08/2...onument-brzeg/

I guess those guys are just playing left field again.
Andrew Booth29 Andrew Booth29 Regular
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#4700 ·
Donna Harris11 said:They've finally started tearing down and demolishing those monuments dedicated to the fallen Red Army soldiers.

https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/08/2...onument-brzeg/

I guess those guys are just playing left field again.

So, basically, the Russians were right all along—the Poles are the real Nazis.

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