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Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

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Participants Charles Ross3rowdytiger13electrichawk94nimblemoose2Noah Ward2George Robinson43Larry Wilson25Larry Walker24Amanda Allen4Noah Sanchez2Paul Thomas46Jessica Peterson2Nancy Gomez26Nathan Evans78William Anderson5electricsurfer47gentlestag15wiredseal7Thomas Nelson25Donna Harris11Nicholas WatsonJack Kelly5Carol Johnson21Kate Cook27 …
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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joined Jan 2018
#4701 ·
I find the destruction of monuments to be fundamentally misguided. These structures serve as markers of specific eras; they ought to remain standing to remind us—and the generations following in our footsteps—of those times, regardless of how we view them now.
Kyle Flores32 Kyle Flores32 Member
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joined Feb 2014
#4702 ·
Those monuments ought to stay put. Honestly, I’m with you—removing them is just sending the wrong message.

Putin’s regime has absolutely nothing to do with the Red Army.
Sandra Harris2 Sandra Harris2 Active Member
125 messages
joined Feb 2010
#4703 ·
Nancy Gomez26 said:I find the destruction of monuments to be fundamentally misguided. These structures serve as markers of specific eras; they ought to remain standing to remind us—and the generations following in our footsteps—of those times, regardless of how we view them now.

I was just starting to type this out myself... I completely agree.
James Phillips92 James Phillips92 Active Member
216 messages
joined Aug 2013
#4704 ·
Andrew Booth29 said:So, basically, the Russians were right all along—the Poles are the real Nazis.

Actually, no—they're anti-fascists.
James Phillips92 James Phillips92 Active Member
216 messages
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#4705 ·
Nancy Gomez26 said:I find the destruction of monuments to be fundamentally misguided. These structures serve as markers of specific eras; they ought to remain standing to remind us—and the generations following in our footsteps—of those times, regardless of how we view them now.

To Poles, both Russians and Germans are essentially the same—both have spent history killing them and carving up their country.
Dana Robinson4 Dana Robinson4 Active Member
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joined Jul 2010
#4706 ·
James Phillips92 said:To Poles, both Russians and Germans are essentially the same—both have spent history killing them and carving up their country.

And all this after the Poles had already finished carving up pieces of the Czech Republic...
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#4707 ·
James Phillips92 said:To Poles, both Russians and Germans are essentially the same—both have spent history killing them and carving up their country.

Precisely. But if they were permitted to preserve Auschwitz as a monument to history—a grim reminder of those horrors—they really should have been allowed to leave those other monuments behind as well.
James Phillips92 James Phillips92 Active Member
216 messages
joined Aug 2013
#4708 ·
Dana Robinson4 said:And all this after the Poles had already finished carving up pieces of the Czech Republic...

So, you're justifying one instance of theft just because others have done it too?
James Phillips92 James Phillips92 Active Member
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#4709 ·
Nancy Gomez26 said:Precisely. But if they were permitted to preserve Auschwitz as a monument to history—a grim reminder of those horrors—they really should have been allowed to leave those other monuments behind as well.

Auschwitz needs to stay because it marks where so many lives were lost, but that Red Army monument? That’s just a symbol of occupation.
Dana Robinson4 Dana Robinson4 Active Member
181 messages
joined Jul 2010
#4710 ·
James Phillips92 said:So, you're justifying one instance of theft just because others have done it too?

Well, I suppose so,

but you simply cannot go around stealing from others while expecting that nobody will ever come for what belongs to you, can you?
Christian Torres3 Christian Torres3 Regular
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#4711 ·
Dana Robinson4 said:Well, I suppose so,

but you simply cannot go around stealing from others while expecting that nobody will ever come for what belongs to you, can you?

Watch what you wish for—you might just get it.
Dana Robinson4 Dana Robinson4 Active Member
181 messages
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#4712 ·
Christian Torres3 said:Watch what you wish for—you might just get it.

Is this really what we're after—is a third World War actually what everyone is craving?

Is that the plan?
Gregory Ramos3 Gregory Ramos3 Active Member
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joined Feb 2022
#4713 ·
Matthew Young35 said:I’ve been following this casually, but did someone here mix up the domain and the hosting?
What exactly is the connection between a domain and an IP address?
(I mean, obviously they're linked, but you know what I'm getting at... a domain and an IP address aren't the same thing.)

They were pointing to the IP address that the TLD resolves to, which happens to be located at the NATO headquarters in Brussels.

Even though that's technically wrong, since the links on the page actually point to a subdomain that our buddy mentioned above, which is also hosted on Cloudflare and resolves to a completely different IP.

It's all connected because those DNS records have to point you toward the specific IP where the IIS (the actual site) lives, or to the load balancer sitting in front of the server farm...
(I guess they just gave out the wrong info, kind of like if someone gave me the wrong IP for a major US site like Yahoo or something)

Edit: actually, let me try a better example to make it click..

Take McDonald's, for instance—they have their own zone for mcd.com. For that zone, the SoA DNS servers live right there within McDonald's infrastructure. There are hundreds of web apps out there that belong to McDonald's, but most of them are built by various third-party vendors or services and are hosted externally, even though the records themselves are kept in that specific zone inside McDonald's.

If you run an nslookup on app.mcd.com, you're going to get the IP address of where that application or website is actually being hosted.

But if you run an nslookup for mcd.com, you'll get the IP addresses of the McDonald's DNS servers where that entire zone is managed.

Hopefully, I didn't make that sound way more complicated than it needs to be. 😬
Timothy Williams5 Timothy Williams5 Regular
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#4714 ·
Donna Harris11 said:They've finally started tearing down and demolishing those monuments dedicated to the fallen Red Army soldiers.

https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/08/2...onument-brzeg/

I guess those guys are just playing left field again.

The text makes mention of Red Army soldiers.
Have you actually seen those "fallen Red Army soldiers" yourself?

There’s an old Canadian saying involving Kurt and Murta that offers a pretty sharp, if somewhat grim, way to describe exactly what happened to Poland back in '45.
He already took down Kurt, and now he’s coming for Murta.
It’s almost poetic, in a grim sort of way.
Timothy Williams5 Timothy Williams5 Regular
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joined Jun 2022
#4715 ·
Gregory Ramos3 said:They were pointing to the IP address that the TLD resolves to, which happens to be located at the NATO headquarters in Brussels.

Even though that's technically wrong, since the links on the page actually point to a subdomain that our buddy mentioned above, which is also hosted on Cloudflare and resolves to a completely different IP.

It's all connected because those DNS records have to point you toward the specific IP where the IIS (the actual site) lives, or to the load balancer sitting in front of the server farm...
(I guess they just gave out the wrong info, kind of like if someone gave me the wrong IP for a major US site like Yahoo or something)

Edit: actually, let me try a better example to make it click..

Take McDonald's, for instance—they have their own zone for mcd.com. For that zone, the SoA DNS servers live right there within McDonald's infrastructure. There are hundreds of web apps out there that belong to McDonald's, but most of them are built by various third-party vendors or services and are hosted externally, even though the records themselves are kept in that specific zone inside McDonald's.

If you run an nslookup on app.mcd.com, you're going to get the IP address of where that application or website is actually being hosted.

But if you run an nslookup for mcd.com, you'll get the IP addresses of the McDonald's DNS servers where that entire zone is managed.

Hopefully, I didn't make that sound way more complicated than it needs to be. 😬

I finally get it now—that hit list for NATO officers is sitting right there on the McDonald's servers. 👍
Gregory Ramos3 Gregory Ramos3 Active Member
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joined Feb 2022
#4716 ·
Timothy Williams5 said:I finally get it now—that hit list for NATO officers is sitting right there on the McDonald's servers. 👍

Man, 🤣 🤣

Nah, what you actually meant was that there's a DNS record on the McDonald's servers that redirects you to an external server containing that NATO officer hit list. 😉

But anyway, let's drop this stuff and just chat about something else entirely. 🙂
Thomas Walker84 Thomas Walker84 Active Member
114 messages
joined Oct 2009
#4717 ·
Timothy Williams5 said:I finally get it now—that hit list for NATO officers is sitting right there on the McDonald's servers. 👍

Actually, it isn't on McDonald's😁 servers, just the images. For instance, the logo is hosted on natocdn (specifically the psb4ukr.natocdn.net subdomain), and after looking into it, it seems all the photos of the criminals are stored there in a folder called "criminals"🙂 for example

So they aren't hosting it on their own site; they're using natocdn and just linking to it. It looks like NATO approved this, especially since they have that "pbs4ukr" subdomain, which redirects to the Peacekeeper site if you look up the .org domain.

Since NATO is becoming an ally to Ukraine, it’s not really that surprising. It seems like pro-Russian propagandists are just grabbing this to find more ways to smear Ukraine.

The Russians are out there shelling and massacring people in Ukraine, yet they claim Ukrainians are the problem because they host photos on a NATO server. Apparently, that's just more proof of NATIZMA.
wiredseal7 wiredseal7 Regular
320 messages
joined Jan 2009
#4718 ·
Thomas Walker84 said:Actually, it isn't on McDonald's😁 servers, just the images. For instance, the logo is hosted on natocdn (specifically the psb4ukr.natocdn.net subdomain), and after looking into it, it seems all the photos of the criminals are stored there in a folder called "criminals"🙂 for example

So they aren't hosting it on their own site; they're using natocdn and just linking to it. It looks like NATO approved this, especially since they have that "pbs4ukr" subdomain, which redirects to the Peacekeeper site if you look up the .org domain.

Since NATO is becoming an ally to Ukraine, it’s not really that surprising. It seems like pro-Russian propagandists are just grabbing this to find more ways to smear Ukraine.

The Russians are out there shelling and massacring people in Ukraine, yet they claim Ukrainians are the problem because they host photos on a NATO server. Apparently, that's just more proof of NATIZMA.

If we only blamed the Russians, it would be easy. The issue is it isn't just them—it includes our own Commander-in-Chief. It turns out NATO is hosting a site that (subtly) hints at, heaven forbid, liquidation or something similar. At least, that was the case with little Dugina.

psb4ukr.natocdn.net/criminals/21/d7/37/Milanovic-Zoran-1.1608e9.jpg

And look at that URL—they've got him filed under 'criminals' on a NATO server... what a joke.
Timothy Williams5 Timothy Williams5 Regular
325 messages
joined Jun 2022
#4719 ·
Thomas Walker84 said:Actually, it isn't on McDonald's😁 servers, just the images. For instance, the logo is hosted on natocdn (specifically the psb4ukr.natocdn.net subdomain), and after looking into it, it seems all the photos of the criminals are stored there in a folder called "criminals"🙂 for example

So they aren't hosting it on their own site; they're using natocdn and just linking to it. It looks like NATO approved this, especially since they have that "pbs4ukr" subdomain, which redirects to the Peacekeeper site if you look up the .org domain.

Since NATO is becoming an ally to Ukraine, it’s not really that surprising. It seems like pro-Russian propagandists are just grabbing this to find more ways to smear Ukraine.

The Russians are out there shelling and massacring people in Ukraine, yet they claim Ukrainians are the problem because they host photos on a NATO server. Apparently, that's just more proof of NATIZMA.

There you have it; you managed to stumble upon the core truth behind the Russian aggression without even trying.
In reality, Russia is fighting against NATIZMA, and through some bureaucratic blunder or a simple typo where one letter gets swapped, it looks like they're fighting Nazism instead.
Maybe someone from their staff should let them know where the error lies so they can apologize, settle the war reparations, and finally head home to their wives and mothers.
Anthony Hill5 Anthony Hill5 Regular
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joined May 2024
#4720 ·
wiredseal7 said:If we only blamed the Russians, it would be easy. The issue is it isn't just them—it includes our own Commander-in-Chief. It turns out NATO is hosting a site that (subtly) hints at, heaven forbid, liquidation or something similar. At least, that was the case with little Dugina.

psb4ukr.natocdn.net/criminals/21/d7/37/Milanovic-Zoran-1.1608e9.jpg

And look at that URL—they've got him filed under 'criminals' on a NATO server... what a joke.

Good grief. This website has absolutely nothing to do with NATO servers or NATO as an organization. What I am reading here is nothing short of a farce.

Everything is explained perfectly right below

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