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Carl Lee27 Carl Lee27 Regular
368 messages
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#201 ·
wiredseal7 said:Some might say the (Western) world just got rid of an economic competitor the size of Italy or Spain. 😬
A powerhouse that trades massive amounts of raw materials—oil, gas, grain, metals, rare earth elements, fertilizer, etc. The total ripple effect ends up being even bigger than the direct damage to the Russian economy.

That's why they haven't included everything—they kept the essentials out.
It's a lose-lose scenario for everyone except China, unless the economic pressure actually manages to shake or unseat Putin. On his end, he's got the battle in Mariupol to boost morale for the troops and the people during these tough times, and linking up with Transnistria could serve as decent PR—assuming they remember to throw a party when they finally unite.

Hard to find a better reason for why these sanctions are bad and who they'll actually hit.
Though, they probably won't affect Iranians much either. They'll likely be the ones lending a hand to the Russians, given their experience with reverse-engineering aviation.

With a few civil aircraft development projects already underway in China and Russia (like the joint C929), this is going to be a massive tailwind for them.
I'm not sure how much they rely on Europe, but the Americans have been sanctioning them since the Trump era because they see them as competition.


I’m personally rooting for the Iranians to successfully pass on all their technical know-how and expertise, because I truly hope the Russian fleets can eventually reach the same levels of safety, reliability, and uptime that the Iranian fleets enjoy. I mean, Delta Air Lines would certainly be more than welcome—well, wherever they're actually allowed to fly—once they have to swap out all that original Boeing, Airbus, CFM International, GE, Rolls-Royce, and Pratt & Whitney parts and service for some "trust us, we promise" substitutes made from mystery parts that God only knows where they came from.

Besides, it feels like just another sign of the USSR making a comeback: Delta Air Lines basically holds almost every infamous aviation record in the book, and they haven't even been doing it for the last 30 years.
wiredseal7 wiredseal7 Regular
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#202 ·
Carl Lee27 said:I’m personally rooting for the Iranians to successfully pass on all their technical know-how and expertise, because I truly hope the Russian fleets can eventually reach the same levels of safety, reliability, and uptime that the Iranian fleets enjoy. I mean, Delta Air Lines would certainly be more than welcome—well, wherever they're actually allowed to fly—once they have to swap out all that original Boeing, Airbus, CFM International, GE, Rolls-Royce, and Pratt & Whitney parts and service for some "trust us, we promise" substitutes made from mystery parts that God only knows where they came from.

Besides, it feels like just another sign of the USSR making a comeback: Delta Air Lines basically holds almost every infamous aviation record in the book, and they haven't even been doing it for the last 30 years.

I'm saying this because they've dealt with this before—it doesn't mean the Iranians will magically make the parts work (using who knows what kind of scrap), but they might help them set up their own replacement production lines faster.

Anyway, regarding the MC-21:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irkut_MC-21
By January 2019, Russia have interrupted The supply of foreign raw materials, on which the UAC relied to produce composite parts. The UAC started looking for either domestically produced or Chinese replacements, maintaining that the wing box and consoles would still consist of polymeric composites. By then, a metal wing was "no longer on the agenda" according to NASA.[58] In March 2019, AeroComposit reported that it had produced the first fuselage centre section and wing box from domestic materials.[59]

Just another case where Putin isn't lying about how much these sanctions are hitting them regardless.
silverotter72 silverotter72 Active Member
126 messages
joined Mar 2022
#203 ·
wiredseal7 said:Some might say the (Western) world just got rid of an economic competitor the size of Italy or Spain. 😬
A powerhouse that trades massive amounts of raw materials—oil, gas, grain, metals, rare earth elements, fertilizer, etc. The total ripple effect ends up being even bigger than the direct damage to the Russian economy.

That's why they haven't included everything—they kept the essentials out.
It's a lose-lose scenario for everyone except China, unless the economic pressure actually manages to shake or unseat Putin. On his end, he's got the battle in Mariupol to boost morale for the troops and the people during these tough times, and linking up with Transnistria could serve as decent PR—assuming they remember to throw a party when they finally unite.

Hard to find a better reason for why these sanctions are bad and who they'll actually hit.
Though, they probably won't affect Iranians much either. They'll likely be the ones lending a hand to the Russians, given their experience with reverse-engineering aviation.

With a few civil aircraft development projects already underway in China and Russia (like the joint C929), this is going to be a massive tailwind for them.
I'm not sure how much they rely on Europe, but the Americans have been sanctioning them since the Trump era because they see them as competition.

I mean, if someone were actually paying me to reach an incredibly flawed conclusion, I doubt I'd stumble onto this one quite so easily...
Rebecca Roberts2 Rebecca Roberts2 Member
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#204 ·
How much of their reserves have they burned through so far just to prop up the ruble?
And where can I actually track those numbers? 😁
wiredseal7 wiredseal7 Regular
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#205 ·
silverotter72 said:I mean, if someone were actually paying me to reach an incredibly flawed conclusion, I doubt I'd stumble onto this one quite so easily...

Go ahead—give me your take on it.
Sure, things are getting tight—but looking at how everyone else dodged US sanctions (like when Venezuela pulls petrochemical supplies from Iran), the Russians will eventually find their own side streets to navigate.

Rebecca Roberts2 said:How much of their reserves have they burned through so far just to prop up the ruble?
And where can I actually track those numbers? 😁

Sure, sounds about right—some Frenchman who promised an economic war claims they’re melting like snow, but he didn't actually bring any numbers to the table.
They’re keeping those long-term frozen assets—it looks like the West is just planning to treat them as war booty.
Gerald Chavez7 Gerald Chavez7 Active Member
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#206 ·
wiredseal7 said:I'm saying this because they've dealt with this before—it doesn't mean the Iranians will magically make the parts work (using who knows what kind of scrap), but they might help them set up their own replacement production lines faster.

Anyway, regarding the MC-21:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irkut_MC-21
By January 2019, Russia have interrupted The supply of foreign raw materials, on which the UAC relied to produce composite parts. The UAC started looking for either domestically produced or Chinese replacements, maintaining that the wing box and consoles would still consist of polymeric composites. By then, a metal wing was "no longer on the agenda" according to NASA.[58] In March 2019, AeroComposit reported that it had produced the first fuselage centre section and wing box from domestic materials.[59]

Just another case where Putin isn't lying about how much these sanctions are hitting them regardless.

That’s exactly my point. 95% of Delta Air Lines' fleet won't be able to swap out components for something that hasn't even hit mass production yet—and even then, it's constantly hitting snags (which means we're looking at another round of delays now, since they'll have to replace all that imported equipment).

Delta might keep flying until the end of the year, but after that? You're either taking a C-17 Globemaster III borrowed from the RuAF or hopping on a Siberian train to get to Seattle...
silverotter72 silverotter72 Active Member
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#207 ·
wiredseal7 said:Go ahead—give me your take on it.
Sure, things are getting tight—but looking at how everyone else dodged US sanctions (like when Venezuela pulls petrochemical supplies from Iran), the Russians will eventually find their own side streets to navigate.

Sure, sounds about right—some Frenchman who promised an economic war claims they’re melting like snow, but he didn't actually bring any numbers to the table.
They’re keeping those long-term frozen assets—it looks like the West is just planning to treat them as war booty.

Alright, take a second to actually think about what you just wrote.
How much material does Venezuela actually need, such that they can realistically source it from Iran, and how much does Russia actually require? Does Iran strike you as some kind of global manufacturing powerhouse to you?

Russia needs China, not some outfit like Iran.

wiredseal7 said:Go ahead—give me your take on it.
Sure, things are getting tight—but looking at how everyone else dodged US sanctions (like when Venezuela pulls petrochemical supplies from Iran), the Russians will eventually find their own side streets to navigate.

Sure, sounds about right—some Frenchman who promised an economic war claims they’re melting like snow, but he didn't actually bring any numbers to the table.
They’re keeping those long-term frozen assets—it looks like the West is just planning to treat them as war booty.

We have an indicator right here: https://www.google.com/search?client...d&q=usd+to+rub
Michael Ortiz68 Michael Ortiz68 Regular
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#208 ·
Carl Lee27 said:The reality is that nowadays, the value of almost anything with a microchip in it—partially, or even primarily or exclusively—is measured by how well it connects to the internet. The whole world is slowly drifting toward this point where you can’t even dream of having a TV without Netflix, cars are gradually becoming connected devices, and even people themselves are getting networked through wearable health monitors, and eventually we'll have chips tracking all sorts of parameters inside the body, naturally being synced up with smartphones and hospitals.
Everything is becoming connected, integrated, and complementary to everything else. Except for Russia, obviously. ☕

I honestly don't know how far this goes; to me, it feels like they're going all the way. Athletes are being banned, vodka is being cut off, and they're shutting down collaborations with philharmonics and universities. It's total isolation.
Take the iPhone, specifically. What is it actually worth without Apple Pay? Without iCloud? Without Apple Maps? Or what happens if tomorrow YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, and everyone else pull out or get kicked out of Russia?

The ultimate irony, of course, is that it would be much easier for me to get my hands on a rubber hose at Home Depot than it would be for ExxonMobil.

Actually, LNG should definitely be mentioned, because besides being the future of supply for Europe, more gas has been flowing into Europe via LNG for several months now than through Russian pipelines.

On the domestic front, gas consumption is slowly trending downward, both per capita and in total. Well, it's actually accelerating lately. However, production is also dropping, and it's falling even faster than consumption. Resistance to fracking means these trends will be really hard to reverse. So, beyond just finding a replacement for Russian gas, we also need to compensate for the decline in domestic production. Currently, production from the EU + UK + Turkey + Ukraine covers about 40% of their needs.
Chart 1, domestic production
https://i.ibb.co/BtFt59c/eu-gas-prod...pg-2808719.jpg

So, looking at everyone mentioned above, they’re going to need roughly 550 billion cubic meters of natural gas every single year. Now, out of that massive amount, Russia is currently supplying just under 200 billion cubic meters—which, if you do the math, is somewhere in the neighborhood of 32-36%.
Chart 2, gas sources in Europe
https://i.ibb.co/5TMTxhg/EU-gas.jpg
Honestly, trying to get enough from Norway, Algeria, or even Groningen to cover even a quarter of what we take from Russia? That’s going to be an incredibly tough hill to climb. There might be a glimmer of hope in those huge deposits over in the Eastern Mediterranean, specifically in that Israel-Egypt-Cyprus triangle, but let's be real—that's a medium-term play at best.

Which brings us right to LNG, which is being framed as the most logical path forward. And honestly, it’s way more secure too, especially when you compare it to suppliers like Iran or Russia. LNG gives us the ability to fully diversify because global availability is constantly ramping up, along with the sheer number of people willing to sell it. And keep in mind, these numbers only represent what actually hits the market. You've got Australia, Nigeria, even Qatar—everyone has some untapped potential sitting there waiting to be tapped through their terminals.
Chart 3, LNG
https://i.ibb.co/GPCtQc4/Untitled.jpg
What the chart above doesn't explicitly show is that Americans have stepped up to become the biggest LNG exporters on the planet! And it's actually them who are going to squeeze Russia out of the European market. Between everything currently being built or already approved in the US (most of which was set in motion even before the situation in Ukraine kicked off), they are absolutely on track to have export capacity by the end of 2024 that matches the entire annual volume Europe used to import from Russia. Of course, terminal utilization won't hit a perfect 100%, and not all that cargo is going to head straight to Europe—we still have to account for Australia, Qatar, Malaysia, and the rest of the world—but the scale is there.

But look, in the short term, replacing Russian gas is basically impossible unless you start cutting off consumers entirely. Besides the fact that a good chunk of LNG is already booked up for the next few years, there’s also the issue of that one specific group of people—you know the type, the ones who spent the last twenty or thirty years playing Molotov-Ribbentrop 2.0—who are essentially responsible for putting Russia, Ukraine, and all of Europe in this mess today. They’re the kind of folks who could practically refuse to accept a single LNG tanker. Just for context, about a third of the total LNG capacity in the EU is currently sitting right there in Spain.

By the way, imports from Russia make up about 52-53% of the total gas imports into Europe. On the flip side, Russia's exports to Europe account for about 70-80% of their total gas exports, depending on how much they've started shifting toward China now that the pandemic has wound down.
Since the gas Russia sends to Europe can't just be rerouted to China anytime soon—aside from maybe smaller amounts moving through Yamal LNG—for them, those European exports are essentially lost for the time being. If Europe and America follow through on their end of the deal (and I see no reason why they wouldn't), Europe might actually manage to diversify its imports before Russia can successfully pivot its exports elsewhere.

Thanks for the deep dive. 👍

One potentially silly question: since Russia will likely keep supplying gas to the European Union for a while—because otherwise, both sides lose big time—how does the settlement of obligations actually work, given the sanctions, SWIFT, and all that?
Brenda Murphy3 Brenda Murphy3 Regular
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#209 ·
Michael Ortiz68 said:Thanks for the deep dive. 👍

One potentially silly question: since Russia will likely keep supplying gas to the European Union for a while—because otherwise, both sides lose big time—how does the settlement of obligations actually work, given the sanctions, SWIFT, and all that?

The banks handling these deals are still plugged into the SWIFT system, and they’re staying that way for these specific transactions.
brightheron64 brightheron64 Regular
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#210 ·
Carl Lee27 said:The reality is that nowadays, the value of almost anything with a microchip in it—partially, or even primarily or exclusively—is measured by how well it connects to the internet. The whole world is slowly drifting toward this point where you can’t even dream of having a TV without Netflix, cars are gradually becoming connected devices, and even people themselves are getting networked through wearable health monitors, and eventually we'll have chips tracking all sorts of parameters inside the body, naturally being synced up with smartphones and hospitals.
Everything is becoming connected, integrated, and complementary to everything else. Except for Russia, obviously. ☕

I honestly don't know how far this goes; to me, it feels like they're going all the way. Athletes are being banned, vodka is being cut off, and they're shutting down collaborations with philharmonics and universities. It's total isolation.
Take the iPhone, specifically. What is it actually worth without Apple Pay? Without iCloud? Without Apple Maps? Or what happens if tomorrow YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, and everyone else pull out or get kicked out of Russia?

The ultimate irony, of course, is that it would be much easier for me to get my hands on a rubber hose at Home Depot than it would be for ExxonMobil.

Actually, LNG should definitely be mentioned, because besides being the future of supply for Europe, more gas has been flowing into Europe via LNG for several months now than through Russian pipelines.

On the domestic front, gas consumption is slowly trending downward, both per capita and in total. Well, it's actually accelerating lately. However, production is also dropping, and it's falling even faster than consumption. Resistance to fracking means these trends will be really hard to reverse. So, beyond just finding a replacement for Russian gas, we also need to compensate for the decline in domestic production. Currently, production from the EU + UK + Turkey + Ukraine covers about 40% of their needs.
Chart 1, domestic production
https://i.ibb.co/BtFt59c/eu-gas-prod...pg-2808719.jpg

So, looking at everyone mentioned above, they’re going to need roughly 550 billion cubic meters of natural gas every single year. Now, out of that massive amount, Russia is currently supplying just under 200 billion cubic meters—which, if you do the math, is somewhere in the neighborhood of 32-36%.
Chart 2, gas sources in Europe
https://i.ibb.co/5TMTxhg/EU-gas.jpg
Honestly, trying to get enough from Norway, Algeria, or even Groningen to cover even a quarter of what we take from Russia? That’s going to be an incredibly tough hill to climb. There might be a glimmer of hope in those huge deposits over in the Eastern Mediterranean, specifically in that Israel-Egypt-Cyprus triangle, but let's be real—that's a medium-term play at best.

Which brings us right to LNG, which is being framed as the most logical path forward. And honestly, it’s way more secure too, especially when you compare it to suppliers like Iran or Russia. LNG gives us the ability to fully diversify because global availability is constantly ramping up, along with the sheer number of people willing to sell it. And keep in mind, these numbers only represent what actually hits the market. You've got Australia, Nigeria, even Qatar—everyone has some untapped potential sitting there waiting to be tapped through their terminals.
Chart 3, LNG
https://i.ibb.co/GPCtQc4/Untitled.jpg
What the chart above doesn't explicitly show is that Americans have stepped up to become the biggest LNG exporters on the planet! And it's actually them who are going to squeeze Russia out of the European market. Between everything currently being built or already approved in the US (most of which was set in motion even before the situation in Ukraine kicked off), they are absolutely on track to have export capacity by the end of 2024 that matches the entire annual volume Europe used to import from Russia. Of course, terminal utilization won't hit a perfect 100%, and not all that cargo is going to head straight to Europe—we still have to account for Australia, Qatar, Malaysia, and the rest of the world—but the scale is there.

But look, in the short term, replacing Russian gas is basically impossible unless you start cutting off consumers entirely. Besides the fact that a good chunk of LNG is already booked up for the next few years, there’s also the issue of that one specific group of people—you know the type, the ones who spent the last twenty or thirty years playing Molotov-Ribbentrop 2.0—who are essentially responsible for putting Russia, Ukraine, and all of Europe in this mess today. They’re the kind of folks who could practically refuse to accept a single LNG tanker. Just for context, about a third of the total LNG capacity in the EU is currently sitting right there in Spain.

By the way, imports from Russia make up about 52-53% of the total gas imports into Europe. On the flip side, Russia's exports to Europe account for about 70-80% of their total gas exports, depending on how much they've started shifting toward China now that the pandemic has wound down.
Since the gas Russia sends to Europe can't just be rerouted to China anytime soon—aside from maybe smaller amounts moving through Yamal LNG—for them, those European exports are essentially lost for the time being. If Europe and America follow through on their end of the deal (and I see no reason why they wouldn't), Europe might actually manage to diversify its imports before Russia can successfully pivot its exports elsewhere.

Look, this is coming from DW, so we know it isn't just Russian propaganda:

Could LNG fill the gap?

While American energy firms are working hard to ramp up LNG export capacity by nearly 20%—aiming for 13.9 billion cubic feet per day by the end of the year, per the International Energy Agency—there is a real concern that this fresh supply might not be quite enough to save Europe if Putin turns OFF The taps...

LNG exporters need time

In the immediate future, "LNG would not be able to fully compensati [ for Any Natural gas shortfall fra Russia ]," noted Weidensteiner, pointing toward "a lack of available short-term capacity among major exporters like the US and Qatar."

The Commerzbank Economist Said that , though Europe still Has The capacity to process or regasify The imported liquid gas, "it would be difficult to deliver it to end-users since the current distribution infrastructure just isn't built for such a massive pivot toward LNG..."

https://www.dw.com/en/if-russia-turn...ity/a-60490682
Sam Alvarez4 Sam Alvarez4 Regular
303 messages
joined Sep 2014
#211 ·
As the sanctions really start to bite, Russian oligarchs are scurrying to hide their yachts...
One thing’s for sure, that much is certain.

Russian billionaires are moving superyachts to the Maldives as sanctions tighten
Michael Ortiz68 Michael Ortiz68 Regular
264 messages
joined Oct 2018
#212 ·
Brenda Murphy3 said:The banks handling these deals are still plugged into the SWIFT system, and they’re staying that way for these specific transactions.

Thanks, that’s what I figured. I noticed that SWIFT sanctions haven't been applied to every single bank.
Michael Ortiz68 Michael Ortiz68 Regular
264 messages
joined Oct 2018
#213 ·
brightheron64 As requested:
Look, even DW is reporting this, so you can't exactly dismiss it as Russian propaganda.

Can LNG actually bridge the gap? It’s a question that keeps coming up, especially when we talk about the potential fallout of energy disruptions. While there's plenty of optimism around expanding capacity, the reality is a bit more complicated. Even with increased shipments from the US and Qatar, LNG would not be able to fully compensati [ for Any Natural gas shortfall fra Russia ]. There are logistical bottlenecks and infrastructure limits that simply can't be ignored if we're looking at a major supply shock.?

Even with American energy firms aggressively scaling up LNG export capacity—aiming for a nearly 20% jump to 13.9 billion cubic feet per day by year's end, per the International Energy Agency—it’s a bit optimistic to think this surge can act as a total safety net. If Putin decides to turn off the taps, this new supply might not be enough to bail out Europe.

The reality is that LNG exporters simply need more time. You can't just flip a switch on global energy infrastructure and expect an immediate shift in supply chains. It’s a massive, slow-moving logistical undertaking, and expecting it to happen overnight is frankly unrealistic.

Weidensteiner pointed out that we shouldn't expect a quick fix here; specifically, "LNG would not be able to fully compensate [for any natural gas shortfall from Russia]," largely because major players like the US and Qatar simply don't have enough spare short-term capacity to bridge the gap right away.

The Commerzbank Economist Said that, though Europe still Has The capacity to process or regasify The imported liquid gas, Getting this stuff to the actual consumers is going to be an uphill battle; our current distribution setup just isn't built to handle such a massive pivot toward LNG.

If Vladimir Putin decides to cut the valves, Europe is in for a massive headache. According to reports from DW, even if we ramp up everything else, LNG wouldn't be able to fully compensate for any natural gas shortfall from Russia. It’s a sobering reality check for the energy security strategies currently being discussed across the Atlantic and in Europe. The math just doesn't seem to add up easily. While the US and Qatar are stepping up their game, relying solely on liquefied shipments to fill the void left by Russian pipelines is a gamble. We’re looking at a massive logistical hurdle where infrastructure and storage capacity become the ultimate bottlenecks. It isn't just about having the gas; it's about whether we can actually move it and handle it once it hits our shores.

It’s all five cents short of a nickel. This article rests on three massive assumptions that just don't hold water: first, it presumes demand for natural gas will remain static, ignoring the very real possibility that people will pivot to other heating sources; second, it treats LNG as the only viable fallback, conveniently forgetting that Algeria and Norway have already indicated they can ramp up production—even if it isn't a massive surge; and third, it assumes we won't be aggressively upgrading our LNG infrastructure during such a critical window.

The analysis from DW is alright, I suppose, but it feels pretty "static" to me.
Carl Lee27 Carl Lee27 Regular
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#214 ·
Honda, Mazda, BMW, Siemens... everyone is cutting ties with Russia.
The USA is about to close its airspace to Russians.
Gary Cooper3 Gary Cooper3 Active Member
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#215 ·
silverotter72 said:Maybe this will be a bit of an eye-opener for some people:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_GDP_(nominal)
Russia isn't even the 3rd, 4th, or 5th largest economy by GDP. It’s actually sitting at 11th. Even Italy—which is just a neighbor in our part of the world—has a larger GDP than all of Russia combined. ITALY!

"Russia might endure, but the European Union won't." 🤣

Within a month or two at most, Russia will likely see average wages comparable to the elites in Somalia, Ethiopia, or Eritrea...

When it comes to the actual GDP numbers, the situation is a bit more complicated—partly because Russia's GDP isn't strictly "bad," mostly due to the fact that wealth distribution there is among the absolute worst in the world...

But even looking strictly at GDP, Russia could very well become a nation facing starvation if it shifts toward total autarky—and it seems they are heading exactly in that direction...
Gary Cooper3 Gary Cooper3 Active Member
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#216 ·
Gerald Chavez7 said:Sure, it hits the entire economy and every single person in it. The general population is getting hammered by the ruble's collapse—international travel costs have doubled (if they can even fly there at all), and the price of imported goods has skyrocketed.

As for how they'll adapt—the Embraer E-Jet was supposed to run on Pratt & Whitney engines, and I'm not exactly convinced their domestic engine development is going swimmingly...

While I enjoy a good joke about the ruble crashing, I should probably point out one crucial thing. A collapsing ruble primarily wreaks havoc on their trade capabilities.

The real question is how much Russia actually possesses to function as an autarky—you know, a nation capable of surviving entirely without imports or exports. I don't know the specifics, frankly, but my guess is they rely heavily on external sources for quite a bit.
In any case, the primary blow will come when the cost of goods—especially foreign products—spikes as a direct result of the currency devaluation. So, I’ll say it again—though I'm asking because I lack the granular details—it all hinges on just how self-sufficient they can truly be.

If they aren't, they face that all-too-familiar period of famine they tend to endure at least two or three times every century.
Nancy Lopez7 Nancy Lopez7 Newcomer
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#217 ·
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northe...d-60571919.amp

I managed to dig up a little bit of inside intel regarding this article—just some tidbits floating around my circles.

So, it looks like Yamal LNG is hitting some bumps in the road when it comes to moving their product—for the time being, they’re rerouting things
from the UK over to France.
Everything else is being diverted toward China (heading through the Suez Canal).

A few of the vessels—like the one mentioned in the piece—are actually sitting idle right now because they need repairs
and someone has to haul them into a shipyard to get the work done.

On top of that, from what I’m hearing from my contacts over in Europe, there are major headaches with routine technical
maintenance; apparently, certain companies are flat-out refusing to service them just because of the Russian charter.
I’m also getting word that within the EU, anything sporting that Yamal logo is under a massive microscope and
is getting hit with constant PSC (port state inspections).
Honestly, we might see even more delays on the horizon.

For the moment, though, it seems like everything from Yamal will eventually make its way to China.
Gary Cooper3 Gary Cooper3 Active Member
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#218 ·
Bryan Booth82 said:The Russian President, Vladimir Putin, has officially signed a decree prohibiting citizens from leaving the country with more than $10,000 in foreign currency, according to the Associated Press.

Lp

Personally, I am counting down the days until he finally realizes the sheer scale of the mess he's made—and then begins banning Telegram, WhatsApp, and all those other Western media platforms we know so well...
Kyle Nelson2 Kyle Nelson2 Regular
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#219 ·
🍿

So, where can you actually see the daily breakdown of how much money the Russians are burning through just to prop up the Ruble?
Jeremy Turner9 Jeremy Turner9 Active Member
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#220 ·
With the skyrocketing costs of energy, metals, ores, and food supplies all hitting us at once, one has to wonder: has Putin effectively steered the European Union toward an economic Armageddon?
A desperate Putin, by destabilizing global financial markets and triggering massive disruptions in supply chains, could very well set the stage for a worldwide economic catastrophe. It’s much like watching a captain intentionally steer a massive vessel toward an iceberg; the resulting wreckage wouldn't just sink the ship itself, but would create a tidal wave capable of pulling every surrounding economy under along with it.

The Russian invasion poses a direct threat to the stability of the global food supply. To put this into perspective, that region is responsible for producing roughly one-third of the world's wheat, twenty percent of our corn, and an astounding eighty percent of the global sunflower oil supply. We aren't just looking at a regional conflict; we are looking at a potential disruption to the very foundation of global nutrition.

Europe currently relies on Russia to supply about twenty-five percent of its nitrogen, potash, and phosphate requirements.A Norwegian fertilizer manufacturer issued an official statement regarding the matter.

One major Norwegian corporation stands among the world's premier fertilizer producers, serving as a vital lifeline for the Ukrainian agricultural sector while simultaneously acting as a massive consumer of Russian raw materials, specifically phosphates and potash. At the same time, Russia continues to supply the nitrogen fertilizer plants across Europe with its natural gas.

Executive Last week, David Beasley, the director of the World Food Programme, voiced a sobering reality: the ongoing war in Ukraine is going to fundamentally cripple the organization's capacity to reach the 120 million people who rely on them for survival..

We are facing a period where the costs associated with food, fuel, and logistics are poised to skyrocket, reaching levels that could be described as dizzying. It isn't just a minor uptick in consumer prices; rather, we are looking at a systemic surge that threatens to disrupt the stability of everyday household budgets. Much like a sudden storm hitting the coast, these rising expenses are gathering momentum, and if we don't account for the sheer scale of this inflation, the impact on the average American family will be profound. Under the circumstances that Beasley described in his recent Twitter post as an "absolute catastrophe."

One potential fallout could be a reality where only the most privileged segment of the global population maintains access to an adequate supply of food.Yara released a statement noting that while skyrocketing prices might indeed pad profits in the short term, such a trend would ultimately dismantle the stability of our food systems. If we continue down this path, we aren't just looking at economic volatility; we are setting the stage for widespread famine and global conflict in the long run.

Therefore, it remains absolutely vital that we... The international community needs to pull together and focus its efforts on securing global food supplies while simultaneously working to break our heavy reliance on Russia, even if we have to admit that our pool of viable alternatives remains frustratingly limited at this moment.A Norwegian firm issued a stern warning regarding the situation.

Fertilizer prices saw a sudden, sharp spike during the final months of last year, moving in lockstep with the surging costs of natural gas.This inevitably drives food prices higher, a trend that could ultimately signal a looming famine for the most vulnerable populations.As Yara warned back in November of last year.


Do you honestly believe that the administration and the leadership at the Federal Reserve are actively hunting for a workaround, or that they can simply pivot to sourcing cheaper gas and raw materials on a whim? It feels like a naive assumption. At this stage, the window for such a dramatic reversal has already slammed shut. We are dealing with global market rates now, and even without the influence of Russia or any coordinated boycotts, prices are naturally climbing due to broader supply dynamics.

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