Sanctions on Russia

Nathan Evans78 said:Look, explain to me how food prices are jumping by 10% to 20% solely because of excessive money printing. Are people suddenly eating two cartons of eggs instead of one just because government subsidies, which were roughly equal to minimum wage, suddenly appeared out of nowhere? That doesn't track.

If you ask me, about 60% of the blame lies with all that cash being pumped into the system during the pandemic and the subsequent destruction of production, while the other 40% comes down to this senseless war and the resulting sanctions.

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If the war hadn't happened, wage growth would have stayed in lockstep with inflation, and we wouldn't be seeing those nasty 5% month-over-month drops.

Food prices began their ascent long before the conflict broke out, though the war and sanctions certainly accelerated the upward trend. Naturally, food costs rise because input costs have been climbing for quite some time. Then, retailers attempted to squeeze farmers to keep prices suppressed—so we simply stopped supplying them. It becomes more profitable to sit idle than to work and accumulate losses simultaneously. Eventually, shelves went empty, and prices spiked beyond all reason. Ultimately, much of this is happening because certain individuals want to play the role of strict regulators over other people's labor and lives, rather than rolling up their sleeves to actually produce goods at the "realistic" prices they imagine should exist. The more they attempt regulation and impose various mandates—like these endless "production standard increases" which carry costs inevitably passed down to the consumer—the higher prices will climb. Or, alternatively, people will simply quit producing altogether (which is what we producers see as the endgame for these imposed policies). In that scenario, I have no idea what the urban populations are going to eat. Essentially, these "regulators" prove themselves to be utterly incompetent. Whether it's regarding the pandemic, agriculture, environmental protection, or anything else—these kids simply haven't a clue.

http://www.uniindia.com/russian-cent...s/2943129.html

The Federal Reserve took a massive hit back in 2022, posting a record-breaking loss of about $7.5 billion.

It’s almost hard to believe, but these sanctions have only served to fortify a Russia that's stronger than ever, while simultaneously pushing Western nations right to the edge of an economic precipice.😁

Noah Diaz said:On top of that—and this is clearly by design—they disrupt energy supplies and goods movement while simultaneously ramping up the frantic printing of dollars. It’s basically a desperate attempt to patch holes on a sinking ship.

It feels like the idiots in power are just throwing gasoline on a fire. It’s high time we stop them or vote them out. Do whatever you want, but I've seen enough.

We are watching a catastrophe unfold in slow motion, and it all traces back to Year zero (2020).

I don't really get why everyone is obsessed with the money printing thing. There's probably 100 or even 1,000 times more dollars circulating globally through various accounts than what was actually printed; no matter how much they pump out, it's peanuts compared to what's already out there.
The total value of stocks on the US stock market alone is sitting at something like $50 trillion.

analogbear5 said:His issue is that he went on the defensive—which, let's be honest, is basically admitting defeat when you're arguing online.

Now it's back to you to actually show how much—and in what ways—the war in Ukraine is hitting the global economy.

Politicians love hiding behind "public sentiment" or "the will of the people" because they never want to commit to anything real. If they actually said something concrete, everyone would see they're full of it.

It’s like he can't even manage to get the ball over the net. 😁 Let him prove that this economic mess is solely the fault of COVID and has nothing to do with the war or sanctions. It’s obvious that sanctions are hitting the American economy hard—anyone claiming otherwise is either oblivious or intentionally playing dumb. Sure, dodging the fallout from a global conflict is nearly impossible, and there's only so much room to maneuver, but pretending we don't see the connection? That constant cycle of ignorance and recycled lies has basically become the trademark of this forum.

Noah Diaz said:On top of that—and this is clearly by design—they disrupt energy supplies and goods movement while simultaneously ramping up the frantic printing of dollars. It’s basically a desperate attempt to patch holes on a sinking ship.

It feels like the idiots in power are just throwing gasoline on a fire. It’s high time we stop them or vote them out. Do whatever you want, but I've seen enough.

We are watching a catastrophe unfold in slow motion, and it all traces back to Year zero (2020).

What, are we going to ask some big-shot consultant for advice? Or should we follow the logic of leaning into Putin—as if he somehow single-handedly fixed everything? Please. A few bureaucrats running things and they think they've got it all figured out.

Joshua Myers432 said:It’s like he can't even manage to get the ball over the net. 😁 Let him prove that this economic mess is solely the fault of COVID and has nothing to do with the war or sanctions. It’s obvious that sanctions are hitting the American economy hard—anyone claiming otherwise is either oblivious or intentionally playing dumb. Sure, dodging the fallout from a global conflict is nearly impossible, and there's only so much room to maneuver, but pretending we don't see the connection? That constant cycle of ignorance and recycled lies has basically become the trademark of this forum.

In today’s interconnected world, everything hits everything else. Most people here aren't stupid enough to miss that—though while those factors do play a role, they seem to be a much smaller part of the equation compared to the inflation spiral triggered by the COVID crisis response.
You’d have to be particularly dense to think an economy the size of Russia's could dictate terms to the US, especially since—aside from energy, which was already priced high before the war—they don't produce much else. Well, maybe I'm exaggerating slightly—they do export plenty of agricultural goods to third countries because they're self-sufficient. I remember you being one of those voices preaching about Russian self-reliance and how they achieved it back in 2014. I haven't forgotten—nor have I forgotten the predictions that we'd all starve together, yet somehow agricultural quotas in the West still exist. If things actually fall apart, those will be the first things cut.
I get that the argument—that America essentially sanctioned itself—is one of Russia's strongest points. What I don't get is how you plan to justify it when the only thing Tankštel states export are commodities at pre-war prices.
Besides, why the hell would they need to justify anything to us? But hey, you're the genius here—what's your take? We're clearly so vital to them that they'd surely drop everything just for our sake, even though it serves everyone, including the Russians.
If I had to speak off the cuff—sure, maybe some zombie-like Kremlin sympathizers are annoying, but let them prove their supposed inefficiency... as for the rest of us? We couldn't care less.
Drop the sanctions talk and write about the weather instead.

Joshua Myers432 said:It’s like he can't even manage to get the ball over the net. 😁 Let him prove that this economic mess is solely the fault of COVID and has nothing to do with the war or sanctions. It’s obvious that sanctions are hitting the American economy hard—anyone claiming otherwise is either oblivious or intentionally playing dumb. Sure, dodging the fallout from a global conflict is nearly impossible, and there's only so much room to maneuver, but pretending we don't see the connection? That constant cycle of ignorance and recycled lies has basically become the trademark of this forum.

European Union:
Sanctions hit the EU hardest when they had to pivot away from their long-time main supplier of gas and oil, which sent prices through the roof.
Prices have stabilized now, so that specific impact has faded.

Ukraine used to produce quite a few auto parts, so even before the war, COVID was already messing with supply chains from that region.

There's no point denying it: sanctions definitely impacted the EU. But look at the scale—the EU is a massive community of 447 million people, while Russia only has 143 million. The EU has three times the population and is technologically leagues ahead of Russia. I mean, Intel has tech that even the US struggles to match!

Russia:
The energy market shift forced Russia to change tactics; they're selling more oil and gas now, but their revenue is lower than before. And they're selling energy to China for basically peanuts.

As for other sanction effects on Russia, they're slow-burning, but you can certainly feel them. They have gasoline, and some people have cash, but what can they actually buy with it?
Either stuff they make themselves or things imported from third-world countries.
They have food and alcohol, but most products made in NATO countries are pretty much off-limits to them. Pretty soon, all you'll see in Russia are Chinese phones and Chinese cars. Remember, Taiwan isn't China.

Russia isn't small, neither in size nor population. They still trade with a huge chunk of the world. The issue is they don't have trade relations with the most developed part of the globe because that's the part that slapped them with sanctions. Most importantly, sanctions don't have to vanish the second the war ends. They can be phased out gradually only once it's clear Russia is no longer an aggressor dictatorship. The war could end in a year, but sanctions could last decades. Who wins from that? Certainly not the Russians. Sooner or later, they’ll be cursing Putin. The big winner here is China, because if the rest of the world slowly isolates Russia, the Chinese will eventually be getting Russian oil for next to nothing.

#sanctions_dont_work 😁

Sanctions don't strengthen Russia, but they do bolster Putin among a certain segment of the primitive population. Until they lose the war and things in Ukraine normalize, the sanctions stay. Then, even the most stubborn Putin supporters will start asking, "Why do we have sanctions? Why does everyone hate us?"

And the world's answer will be simple: "Pay reparations to Ukraine and hand over the criminals to court."

Small nations haven't been able to resist those pressures. Just look at how Mexico handed over Maddox. We'll just have to wait and see how much longer Putin stays at the helm of Russia if he survives.

goldenorca11 said:European Union:
Sanctions hit the EU hardest when they had to pivot away from their long-time main supplier of gas and oil, which sent prices through the roof.
Prices have stabilized now, so that specific impact has faded.

Ukraine used to produce quite a few auto parts, so even before the war, COVID was already messing with supply chains from that region.

There's no point denying it: sanctions definitely impacted the EU. But look at the scale—the EU is a massive community of 447 million people, while Russia only has 143 million. The EU has three times the population and is technologically leagues ahead of Russia. I mean, Intel has tech that even the US struggles to match!

Russia:
The energy market shift forced Russia to change tactics; they're selling more oil and gas now, but their revenue is lower than before. And they're selling energy to China for basically peanuts.

As for other sanction effects on Russia, they're slow-burning, but you can certainly feel them. They have gasoline, and some people have cash, but what can they actually buy with it?
Either stuff they make themselves or things imported from third-world countries.
They have food and alcohol, but most products made in NATO countries are pretty much off-limits to them. Pretty soon, all you'll see in Russia are Chinese phones and Chinese cars. Remember, Taiwan isn't China.

Russia isn't small, neither in size nor population. They still trade with a huge chunk of the world. The issue is they don't have trade relations with the most developed part of the globe because that's the part that slapped them with sanctions. Most importantly, sanctions don't have to vanish the second the war ends. They can be phased out gradually only once it's clear Russia is no longer an aggressor dictatorship. The war could end in a year, but sanctions could last decades. Who wins from that? Certainly not the Russians. Sooner or later, they’ll be cursing Putin. The big winner here is China, because if the rest of the world slowly isolates Russia, the Chinese will eventually be getting Russian oil for next to nothing.

#sanctions_dont_work 😁

Sanctions don't strengthen Russia, but they do bolster Putin among a certain segment of the primitive population. Until they lose the war and things in Ukraine normalize, the sanctions stay. Then, even the most stubborn Putin supporters will start asking, "Why do we have sanctions? Why does everyone hate us?"

And the world's answer will be simple: "Pay reparations to Ukraine and hand over the criminals to court."

Small nations haven't been able to resist those pressures. Just look at how Mexico handed over Maddox. We'll just have to wait and see how much longer Putin stays at the helm of Russia if he survives.

I don't expect him to last very long.
The issue isn't just his personal crusade—it's that the entire ruling elite shares this mindset.
That’s precisely why sanctions are necessary—to provide a bit of "re-education" for the top brass.

Rachel Richardson said:I don't expect him to last very long.
The issue isn't just his personal crusade—it's that the entire ruling elite shares this mindset.
That’s precisely why sanctions are necessary—to provide a bit of "re-education" for the top brass.

If we follow that line of reasoning, they should have tried to assassinate Joseph Stalin at least 334 times.

In the end, they didn't even have the guts to step up when he was suffering a stroke and dying in his own filth...

brightheron64 said:If we follow that line of reasoning, they should have tried to assassinate Joseph Stalin at least 334 times.

In the end, they didn't even have the guts to step up when he was suffering a stroke and dying in his own filth...

Stalin's friend was resting, so they didn't want to disturb him.
If they feared him, they certainly did. And once they realized he was dying—they helped him cross over. They knew that by letting him go, they were merely extending their own lifespans. Joseph Stalin was a sick man who devolved into a monster, not a leader. But Stalin belongs to history. The real issue is that today, in the 21st century—after everything we've seen—someone actually dares to invoke Stalin and his methods as some kind of shining example to follow.

Nancy Gomez26 said:Stalin's friend was resting, so they didn't want to disturb him.
If they feared him, they certainly did. And once they realized he was dying—they helped him cross over. They knew that by letting him go, they were merely extending their own lifespans. Joseph Stalin was a sick man who devolved into a monster, not a leader. But Stalin belongs to history. The real issue is that today, in the 21st century—after everything we've seen—someone actually dares to invoke Stalin and his methods as some kind of shining example to follow.

The phenomenon of flagellants bowing down to a "Great Leader" has existed since the dawn of time and, frankly, it isn't going anywhere anytime soon. 🕺

Nancy Gomez26 said:Stalin's friend was resting, so they didn't want to disturb him.
If they feared him, they certainly did. And once they realized he was dying—they helped him cross over. They knew that by letting him go, they were merely extending their own lifespans. Joseph Stalin was a sick man who devolved into a monster, not a leader. But Stalin belongs to history. The real issue is that today, in the 21st century—after everything we've seen—someone actually dares to invoke Stalin and his methods as some kind of shining example to follow.

If my memory serves me right, didn't he mention a few years back that he received some "first Miami cockade" award? He shouldn't get confused with PSK—being first isn't the same as being the only one. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised to see people calling back to Stalin and his ways.

brightheron64 said:The phenomenon of flagellants bowing down to a "Great Leader" has existed since the dawn of time and, frankly, it isn't going anywhere anytime soon. 🕺

That role is reserved for those who actually possess the drive to move forward—though, realistically, most lack any capacity beyond the ability to crawl through dark, narrow tunnels. To be fair, one must admit that such a skill requires endurance; you have to be able to withstand the pressure. In the end, the reward always matches the level of effort and intellect applied. Under Joseph Stalin, those specific survival skills were mostly focused on basic biological persistence, but that is a different conversation entirely.

Noah Martin2 said:If my memory serves me right, didn't he mention a few years back that he received some "first Miami cockade" award? He shouldn't get confused with PSK—being first isn't the same as being the only one. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised to see people calling back to Stalin and his ways.

Now, this is entirely beyond my expertise and knowledge... what on earth is a 'Miami cockade'? I've heard of the Miami Bishops, but a cockade...????

Nancy Gomez26 said:Now, this is entirely beyond my expertise and knowledge... what on earth is a 'Miami cockade'? I've heard of the Miami Bishops, but a cockade...????

Well, for all the scammers, the loafers, the tricksters, the phonies, the rascals, the misfits, and the absolute jokers out there, you might catch me wandering through the streets of Miami, but you certainly won't hear me talking about those local originals.

goldenorca11 Asks:
The sanctions really hit the European Union where it hurts most: exactly when they were forced to ditch their long-time gas and oil suppliers. That’s when prices truly lost their minds.
Prices have stabilized, so that influence has vanished.

You freeze prices and pretend inflation or a crisis doesn't exist. You panic and start throwing money out of helicopters, hoping the working class won't revolt over the cost of food and fuel, all while lying to everyone—including yourself—every single day. Look, we can play this delusional game where everything is fine and we’re all living the dream, BUT I lived through the collapse of the old regime in the South, and I know exactly what's actually happening here and exactly where this leads.

Let’s be real: those sanctions definitely hit the European Union, and there’s no point in pretending otherwise. But we have to look at the scale here. The EU is a massive bloc of 447 million people, while Russia only has 143 million. That means the EU has three times the population. Beyond just numbers, the technological gap between the two is immeasurable. Look at ASML in the Netherlands—they possess technology that even the US can't match!

The coalition backing Russia—the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation + BRICS—is actually a bit larger than the European Union. More importantly, they are the primary suppliers of goods and resources to those idiots. They are quite literally sawing off the very branch they’re sitting on.

The European Union is headed for a massive decline over the coming decades. The center of global power is shifting back to where it belongs: Asia. Eventually, the EU will officially become nothing more than the world's dumping ground.

Russia:
The energy market shift has hit Russia hard. They’re pumping out more oil and gas than ever, yet their revenue is actually shrinking compared to what they used to pull in. Basically, they're selling their energy for peanuts right now.

They’re selling at a discount, but don't be fooled—that's a distraction. Most of these are being moved well above a $60 cap, and I’ve already laid out exactly how that pricing formula works.

Yeah, the European Union is headed straight for rock bottom—it'll end up looking like Africa, Mamulica... Honestly, Russia wants to rule the world. You should probably pack your bags and move north right now.
And what exactly do you mean by "cesspool"? Only you would know what that implies..

Noah Diaz said:

goldenorca11 Asks:
The sanctions really hit the European Union where it hurts most: exactly when they were forced to ditch their long-time gas and oil suppliers. That’s when prices truly lost their minds.
Prices have stabilized, so that influence has vanished.

You freeze prices and pretend inflation or a crisis doesn't exist. You panic and start throwing money out of helicopters, hoping the working class won't revolt over the cost of food and fuel, all while lying to everyone—including yourself—every single day. Look, we can play this delusional game where everything is fine and we’re all living the dream, BUT I lived through the collapse of the old regime in the South, and I know exactly what's actually happening here and exactly where this leads.

Let’s be real: those sanctions definitely hit the European Union, and there’s no point in pretending otherwise. But we have to look at the scale here. The EU is a massive bloc of 447 million people, while Russia only has 143 million. That means the EU has three times the population. Beyond just numbers, the technological gap between the two is immeasurable. Look at ASML in the Netherlands—they possess technology that even the US can't match!

The coalition backing Russia—the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation + BRICS—is actually a bit larger than the European Union. More importantly, they are the primary suppliers of goods and resources to those idiots. They are quite literally sawing off the very branch they’re sitting on.

The European Union is headed for a massive decline over the coming decades. The center of global power is shifting back to where it belongs: Asia. Eventually, the EU will officially become nothing more than the world's dumping ground.

Russia:
The energy market shift has hit Russia hard. They’re pumping out more oil and gas than ever, yet their revenue is actually shrinking compared to what they used to pull in. Basically, they're selling their energy for peanuts right now.

They’re selling at a discount, but don't be fooled—that's a distraction. Most of these are being moved well above a $60 cap, and I’ve already laid out exactly how that pricing formula works.

And what exactly have these neoliberal organizations actually achieved in their history? Give me something concrete—like an actual trade agreement or a customs union.

Noah Diaz said:

goldenorca11 Asks:
The sanctions really hit the European Union where it hurts most: exactly when they were forced to ditch their long-time gas and oil suppliers. That’s when prices truly lost their minds.
Prices have stabilized, so that influence has vanished.

You freeze prices and pretend inflation or a crisis doesn't exist. You panic and start throwing money out of helicopters, hoping the working class won't revolt over the cost of food and fuel, all while lying to everyone—including yourself—every single day. Look, we can play this delusional game where everything is fine and we’re all living the dream, BUT I lived through the collapse of the old regime in the South, and I know exactly what's actually happening here and exactly where this leads.

Let’s be real: those sanctions definitely hit the European Union, and there’s no point in pretending otherwise. But we have to look at the scale here. The EU is a massive bloc of 447 million people, while Russia only has 143 million. That means the EU has three times the population. Beyond just numbers, the technological gap between the two is immeasurable. Look at ASML in the Netherlands—they possess technology that even the US can't match!

The coalition backing Russia—the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation + BRICS—is actually a bit larger than the European Union. More importantly, they are the primary suppliers of goods and resources to those idiots. They are quite literally sawing off the very branch they’re sitting on.

The European Union is headed for a massive decline over the coming decades. The center of global power is shifting back to where it belongs: Asia. Eventually, the EU will officially become nothing more than the world's dumping ground.

Russia:
The energy market shift has hit Russia hard. They’re pumping out more oil and gas than ever, yet their revenue is actually shrinking compared to what they used to pull in. Basically, they're selling their energy for peanuts right now.

They’re selling at a discount, but don't be fooled—that's a distraction. Most of these are being moved well above a $60 cap, and I’ve already laid out exactly how that pricing formula works.

I can see you really buy into that theory! Honestly, I don't quite get it—if you have the time and energy, please walk me through your logic. To me, saying "mostly" and "only a few percent" are two very different things.

The rest of this doesn't really fit the topic (sanctions on Russia). You might want to dive deeper into that on a different thread; I'm sure there's a dedicated New World Order discussion somewhere on this forum. 😁
I'm dying to know, though—are we going to be ruled by the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation, George Soros, or the Masons? Is Xi a Mason? What about Vladimir Putin? Or Kim Jong-un? Even the Associated Press? 🙂