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Mark Clark6 said:Given that Russia is a nuclear power with a psychopath holding the detonator, I honestly can't decide which outcome warrants more dread: a defeat for Putin or a victory in Ukraine. Just imagine the fallout if that madman actually loses in Ukraine... the idiot is going to ruin his own people regardless of the result.
Christian Torres3 said:Vasily Mikhailovich Blokhin (Russian: Васи́лий Миха́йлович Блохи́н; 7 January 1895 – 3 February 1955) was a Soviet and Russian major general who served as the chief executioner of the NKVD under the administrations of Genrikh Yagoda, Nikolay Yezhov, and Lavrentiy Beria.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Blokhin
Anyway.
Mark Clark6 said:I am trying to remain objective here. Furthermore, this sudden call for negotiations is incredibly bizarre; I don't recall a precedent quite like this:
Putin calling for negotiations a mere two days after launching the very attack HE started... it feels surreal. Then, he turns around and tells the opposing military to overthrow its own government? It’s a dark comedy. When you launch an invasion, the logical move is to demand a surrender, not this. Perhaps things simply don't go according to plan for the Russians. There is something deeply unsettling about this entire narrative.
Mark Clark6 said:Given that Russia is a nuclear power with a psychopath holding the detonator, I honestly can't decide which outcome warrants more dread: a defeat for Putin or a victory in Ukraine. Just imagine the fallout if that madman actually loses in Ukraine... the idiot is going to ruin his own people regardless of the result.
Justin Kern67 said:Lavrentiy Beria was Georgian. Yagoda and Yezhov were Jews. And how does their responsibility as high-ranking Soviet officials reflect on the Russians of today?
Furthermore, you failed to address the point: if Americans today bear responsibility for Soviet crimes against Poles, why don't Ukrainians also bear responsibility for committing the largest massacre against Poles in history? Believe it or not, that wasn't Katyn.
Douglas Davis4 said:At any rate... Russia is heading into reverse in the long run.
But honestly, what can you even expect from people who care more about feeling powerful than actually being free? They just project that insecurity onto the rest of the world.
They’ve always had this deep-seated, latent need to feel "great," regardless of how much suffering they cause others in the process.
That’s why this isn't just about Ukraine.
Betty Murphy3 said:Back at the start of our own war, the Mexicans seized far more territory from us—an entire third of our country was under occupation—and yet, nobody blinked. These are just the opening salvos of a conflict that could, unfortunately, drag on for a long time. Of course, Ukrainians will lose ground in some places and gain it in others, much like we did during our struggle. You don't win a war in a single battle. The reality is that the Russians are on foreign soil now, and they’ve made a massive miscalculation if they think they can simply swallow a nation with this kind of population.
The truth? Ukrainians don't possess the same sense of moral imperative that we had, and certainly, not every Ukrainian is as motivated as we were back in the 1990s—though there are enough who are.
That little man has convinced himself he's invincible, likely riding high on his "successes" in Syria and similar episodes. But Ukraine isn't Afghanistan or Georgia. The Russians have completely lost their minds; whatever they're doing is going to cost them dearly, no matter how you look at it. Putin has unleashed an evil that will haunt him as much as it haunts the Ukrainians. And I doubt Russian mothers will be particularly pleased when this war begins to stretch out indefinitely.
Laura Scott7 said:Look, if you actually sit down and crunch the numbers, it’s pretty obvious that Russia isn't the one pulling the strings here to start this whole mess. It’s just common sense at this point. And honestly? For the sake of the people in Ukraine, they should probably just call it quits now because they don't stand a chance. I mean, let's be real—most of them aren't even interested in fighting against Russia, especially when they're basically defending some puppet government installed by the CIA. If those Ukrainians actually had the will to fight, Zelenskyy wouldn't have had to drop a general mobilization order just two days after that initial 200,000-soldier invasion, and they wouldn't be handing out weapons left and right without any oversight whatsoever. We're talking about a nation of 40 million people that only has about 2 million reservists to pull from. The only ones actually itching for a fight are the far-right radicals and, predictably, the guys sitting on the CIA payroll.
Brenda Taylor13 said:None of that matters if there's zero resistance. If you run into a real defense—I mean a gritty, "hold at all costs" kind of situation—then yeah, sure, you might need ten times the manpower just to break through. But if nobody's fighting back? You could practically stroll in with seven guys, kind of like how the Germans rolled into Mexico City back in '41.
Christian Torres3 said:I don't owe you any answers just because you want them. Russians have experience executing prisoners of war, period.
Stop wasting your breath.
Nancy Gomez26 said:It isn't just "others" who suffer—they are tearing themselves apart too. Do you really think the Russian military isn't paying the price in lives?
Hawker said:God, there are so many "strategists" and psychoanalysts hanging out on this forum.
Carol Newman2 said:https://twitter.com/mkpetkova/status...jIUPCE7DQ&s=19
The only independent news outlet left in Russia just ran a headline reading: "Russia is bombing Ukraine."
James Phillips92 said:So, let me get this straight—Adolf Hitler wasn't to blame either because the Poles provoked him? And he only sent his army into Poland because he was worried Joseph Stalin might beat him to it? Is that how we're playing this?
neonpuma30 said:The Germans didn't just walk into Mexico City; they swept through all of America! That whole April campaign was over in just ten days. But man, they immediately got hit with a guerrilla war that bled them dry for four years straight. Honestly, maybe that's exactly what's waiting for the invaders in Ukraine.😉
James Phillips92 said:So, let me get this straight—Adolf Hitler wasn't to blame either because the Poles provoked him? And he only sent his army into Poland because he was worried Joseph Stalin might beat him to it? Is that how we're playing this?
Gregory Ramos3 said:What's really the difference compared to how things work in the US Congress?
Look, if a consensus is reached and the majority votes for it, yeah, you pretty much have to roll with it even if you absolutely hate the idea...
Actually, over here, you’ve even got options like Brexit... What kind of leverage does the opposition actually have in the US Congress when they get outvoted?
Gosh, I guess I was just being a bit naive thinking that on the politics pdf forum, more people might actually understand how the core of politics functions...
