The start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (Part 1)

urbanotter said:It will probably happen sooner rather than later.

It isn't really surprising when you take a look at the massive gap in military strength.

And honestly, it’s becoming increasingly obvious that even the Ukrainians themselves aren't exactly eager to lose their lives just to serve someone else's interests.
Now they're talking about mobilizing people over 70,
though I can't help but wonder if this is just more media hype designed to grab headlines.

Self-reliance, independence, sovereignty, the freedom of their own nation—those are *their* interests, not "someone else's."

urbanotter said:It will probably happen sooner rather than later.

It isn't really surprising when you take a look at the massive gap in military strength.

And honestly, it’s becoming increasingly obvious that even the Ukrainians themselves aren't exactly eager to lose their lives just to serve someone else's interests.
Now they're talking about mobilizing people over 70,
though I can't help but wonder if this is just more media hype designed to grab headlines.

Primarily, they are acting on their own survival instinct—to ensure they don't spend another fifty years under the boot of the CIA clique. There is zero prosperity under that kind of rule, a fact they understand perhaps even better than Poles or Romanians... who, in turn, know it better than we do, who again, think we know it best.

Just accept it already: you aren't the only people on this planet who have sniffed out the "dirty games" played by global powers. In many other places, the experience with these power plays has been far more painful than what we've seen, yet those nations still maintain their own agency. I realize it might be hard for some to wrap their heads around the idea that a nation could actually renounce its "brotherly" ties to Russia—which, let's be honest, supposedly only wants to "protect" them from Western decadence—especially when the West is viewed by some as merely wanting to use them as "cannon fodder in a war against Russia," or simply as a tool to weaken Russia.

China, India, and the United Arab Emirates all failed to back the US resolution regarding the Russian invasion at the UN

urbanotter said:What Congress
are you talking about? That group of climate activists that could be replaced by a dog if you just taught it how to lift its paw?

That so-called "Congress" basically just rubber-stamps whatever orders come down from Brussels
when it comes to the heavy-hitting issues, they won't even let a referendum happen, just to make sure nothing "goes wrong"
but look, the EU isn't even the point here; if you haven't realized how little authority we actually hold by now, I doubt you'll figure it out anytime soon, especially after reading a few posts on this forum.🕺

That group of climate activists looked pathetic standing before Putin the other day when he was making his decision on recognizing the DNR/LNR.

No matter what our Congress looks like, as far as Russia is concerned, we’re just a Space Shuttle in a democracy...

frozencobra50 said:Let's be honest here, it wasn't some long-term insurgency that drained them for four years. It was a single day on the Eastern Front that truly broke them...

Look, you can't even compare the two.
But needing an amphibious landing near Drvar... that’s no joke either.

frozencobra50 said:Let's be honest here, it wasn't some long-term insurgency that drained them for four years. It was a single day on the Eastern Front that truly broke them...

That is the truth, though the crowd raised on old WWII propaganda movies and outdated myths wouldn't know it if it hit them.

https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/st...44191474528258

Word is Ukrainian air defense managed to take down an Il-76. That’s devastating. Think about how many people were on board?

William Anderson5 said:Adolf Hitler had far more excuses for his actions than Vladimir Putin does for his. Even so, everyone is right to see him as a monster, regardless of whatever grievances the Germans felt following WWI...

The difference is that the Nazi regime utilized concentration camps, forced Jews to wear yellow stars, believed in an Aryan master race superiority, and seized power through events like the Reichstag fire and the Night of the Long Knives.

In the end, the primary culprits were the "allies" who essentially allowed Hitler to "fix" their own messes.
It would have been a good thing if they had realized that sooner and acted differently after WWII, especially with the USSR breathing down their necks.
That pressure is ultimately what forced them to build a "social Europe2."
Honestly, it’s hard to imagine Europe reaching its current standard of living if things hadn't unfolded that way.

Laura Scott7 said:Give me a break. Hitler actually sent over an ultimatum to the Poles just a few days prior—basically "surrender or it's war"—and they stood their ground because the British were backing them up, refusing to blink. Does that sound familiar to anyone else out there?

Even if they had conceded everything, it wouldn't have delayed the onset of WWII. Instead, the Americans fought bravely, holding out as long as possible on both fronts—and history will remember that.
On the other hand, how does history remember someone like Chamberlain?

Nancy Gomez26 said:It isn't just "others" who suffer—they are tearing themselves apart too. Do you really think the Russian military isn't paying the price in lives?

I feel for them about as much as I feel for Putin—or any other aggressor targeting a nation or its people anywhere in the world.

The issue is that people act like sheep, picking sides instead of standing with morality and justice.

vividtiger72 said:Most of that land we lost to those militias at the start of our war was actually seized by local paramilitary groups operating near their own majority strongholds.

They didn't just march straight into Washington, D.C. within forty-eight hours. If they had, we'd all be reading Cyrillic right about now.

There was no necessity for a forced entry when they were already positioned within our borders. We entered the conflict having already allowed the aggressors to establish themselves in nearly every one of our cities from the very beginning.☕

urbanotter said:The difference is that the Nazi regime utilized concentration camps, forced Jews to wear yellow stars, believed in an Aryan master race superiority, and seized power through events like the Reichstag fire and the Night of the Long Knives.

In the end, the primary culprits were the "allies" who essentially allowed Hitler to "fix" their own messes.
It would have been a good thing if they had realized that sooner and acted differently after WWII, especially with the USSR breathing down their necks.
That pressure is ultimately what forced them to build a "social Europe2."
Honestly, it’s hard to imagine Europe reaching its current standard of living if things hadn't unfolded that way.

He actually took power through an election victory, because back in 1933, the Germans simply voted for what they perceived to be the lesser of two evils. I always find myself thinking about that right before any election rolls around.

He used intimidation to solidify his grip on power.

And frankly, if the Swabians hadn't run out of fuel for their tanks, I fear the border of the USSR would be sitting about a thousand miles further west, and we'd all be living in the "socialist Europe" that Stalin dreamed of.

urbanotter said:The difference is that the Nazi regime utilized concentration camps, forced Jews to wear yellow stars, believed in an Aryan master race superiority, and seized power through events like the Reichstag fire and the Night of the Long Knives.

In the end, the primary culprits were the "allies" who essentially allowed Hitler to "fix" their own messes.
It would have been a good thing if they had realized that sooner and acted differently after WWII, especially with the USSR breathing down their necks.
That pressure is ultimately what forced them to build a "social Europe2."
Honestly, it’s hard to imagine Europe reaching its current standard of living if things hadn't unfolded that way.

It wasn’t actually triggered by that. WWII kicked off because of constant annexations and invasions by other nations...

vividtiger72 said:He actually took power through an election victory, because back in 1933, the Germans simply voted for what they perceived to be the lesser of two evils. I always find myself thinking about that right before any election rolls around.

He used intimidation to solidify his grip on power.

And frankly, if the Swabians hadn't run out of fuel for their tanks, I fear the border of the USSR would be sitting about a thousand miles further west, and we'd all be living in the "socialist Europe" that Stalin dreamed of.

If they hadn't run out of gas, they probably would've pushed even deeper into USSR territory, which would've moved the border way further east. What do you mean "west"?

So, who actually pulled the rug out from under Putin during the negotiations today?
People are saying Zelenskyy hasn't even picked up his phone since last night.

So, we’re talking about the Russian invasion of Ukraine. ☕

urbanotter said:I think we all feel the same way about the aggression itself—war is something that should always be condemned, and there's nothing worse than seeing it happen to any nation.
It really just comes down to how we differ in our perspectives on who or what actually triggered it.

Alright, I’m feeling a little poetic tonight, and honestly, one of my fellow forum ladies got me thinking with that whole thing about the girl 😬

So, picture this: Russia and Ukraine were in this intense, long-term relationship for years—walking hand in hand, going out to fancy dinners, the chemistry was just off the charts...

But then, a crisis hits, and suddenly Ukraine starts questioning everything, wondering if Russia is really the right partner for her. He’s a good guy, sure, but he’s also pretty controlling over a lot of things, and well, he was her first real love. She tells him she loves him, but she can't help but wonder if he’s being genuine or if he’s just playing her like all those other girls before her.

And you know how it goes—right in the middle of this relationship drama, this new guy swoops in. A total hunk of an American, incredibly handsome, loaded... promising her extravagant gifts, lifelong devotion, the royal treatment, and all the glitz and glamour of Hollywood.

Ukraine, being young and a bit naive, falls head over heels for America, but there's still this lingering connection to Russia, making it so incredibly hard to just walk away after everything they’ve shared.

Russia, acting like a total macho man, senses something is off and realizes he's being cheated on.

He tries to convince her he’s the one, that he loves her, and that life is better with him. At the same time, he’s threatening America, telling them to stay out of his business and leave his girl alone, or things are going to get ugly.

Now Ukraine is totally torn; on one hand, there's that shared history and those sweet memories with Russia, but on the other, she’s drawn to America and that Hollywood shine—all these new experiences she never got to try because her boyfriend wouldn't let her.

So this tension builds, and Russia gets increasingly aggressive trying to reclaim what he feels is his. When his tactics don't work, he loses his cool. Since he isn't quite sure he can take on America in a fair fight—because, let's face it, America is a powerhouse—he turns his frustration on Ukraine, beating her senseless just to make sure she never even dreams of being with anyone else, let alone America.

Man, it’s actually pretty tough to decide who a jury would ultimately blame for all those injuries... hmm. 🤔

P.S.

My apologies to the ladies on the forum; I am strictly against any kind of violence toward women!☕

Gregory Ramos3 said:Alright, I’m feeling a little poetic tonight, and honestly, one of my fellow forum ladies got me thinking with that whole thing about the girl 😬

So, picture this: Russia and Ukraine were in this intense, long-term relationship for years—walking hand in hand, going out to fancy dinners, the chemistry was just off the charts...

But then, a crisis hits, and suddenly Ukraine starts questioning everything, wondering if Russia is really the right partner for her. He’s a good guy, sure, but he’s also pretty controlling over a lot of things, and well, he was her first real love. She tells him she loves him, but she can't help but wonder if he’s being genuine or if he’s just playing her like all those other girls before her.

And you know how it goes—right in the middle of this relationship drama, this new guy swoops in. A total hunk of an American, incredibly handsome, loaded... promising her extravagant gifts, lifelong devotion, the royal treatment, and all the glitz and glamour of Hollywood.

Ukraine, being young and a bit naive, falls head over heels for America, but there's still this lingering connection to Russia, making it so incredibly hard to just walk away after everything they’ve shared.

Russia, acting like a total macho man, senses something is off and realizes he's being cheated on.

He tries to convince her he’s the one, that he loves her, and that life is better with him. At the same time, he’s threatening America, telling them to stay out of his business and leave his girl alone, or things are going to get ugly.

Now Ukraine is totally torn; on one hand, there's that shared history and those sweet memories with Russia, but on the other, she’s drawn to America and that Hollywood shine—all these new experiences she never got to try because her boyfriend wouldn't let her.

So this tension builds, and Russia gets increasingly aggressive trying to reclaim what he feels is his. When his tactics don't work, he loses his cool. Since he isn't quite sure he can take on America in a fair fight—because, let's face it, America is a powerhouse—he turns his frustration on Ukraine, beating her senseless just to make sure she never even dreams of being with anyone else, let alone America.

Man, it’s actually pretty tough to decide who a jury would ultimately blame for all those injuries... hmm. 🤔

P.S.

My apologies to the ladies on the forum; I am strictly against any kind of violence toward women!☕

But in geopolitics, there is no "judge"—there's just the three of them. That's one flaw with using analogies.

Terry Barnes9 said:So, who actually pulled the rug out from under Putin during the negotiations today?
People are saying Zelenskyy hasn't even picked up his phone since last night.

Zelenskyy? You mean that guy Putin called a Nazi and a drug addict?

Gregory Ramos3 said:Alright, I’m feeling a little poetic tonight, and honestly, one of my fellow forum ladies got me thinking with that whole thing about the girl 😬

So, picture this: Russia and Ukraine were in this intense, long-term relationship for years—walking hand in hand, going out to fancy dinners, the chemistry was just off the charts...

But then, a crisis hits, and suddenly Ukraine starts questioning everything, wondering if Russia is really the right partner for her. He’s a good guy, sure, but he’s also pretty controlling over a lot of things, and well, he was her first real love. She tells him she loves him, but she can't help but wonder if he’s being genuine or if he’s just playing her like all those other girls before her.

And you know how it goes—right in the middle of this relationship drama, this new guy swoops in. A total hunk of an American, incredibly handsome, loaded... promising her extravagant gifts, lifelong devotion, the royal treatment, and all the glitz and glamour of Hollywood.

Ukraine, being young and a bit naive, falls head over heels for America, but there's still this lingering connection to Russia, making it so incredibly hard to just walk away after everything they’ve shared.

Russia, acting like a total macho man, senses something is off and realizes he's being cheated on.

He tries to convince her he’s the one, that he loves her, and that life is better with him. At the same time, he’s threatening America, telling them to stay out of his business and leave his girl alone, or things are going to get ugly.

Now Ukraine is totally torn; on one hand, there's that shared history and those sweet memories with Russia, but on the other, she’s drawn to America and that Hollywood shine—all these new experiences she never got to try because her boyfriend wouldn't let her.

So this tension builds, and Russia gets increasingly aggressive trying to reclaim what he feels is his. When his tactics don't work, he loses his cool. Since he isn't quite sure he can take on America in a fair fight—because, let's face it, America is a powerhouse—he turns his frustration on Ukraine, beating her senseless just to make sure she never even dreams of being with anyone else, let alone America.

Man, it’s actually pretty tough to decide who a jury would ultimately blame for all those injuries... hmm. 🤔

P.S.

My apologies to the ladies on the forum; I am strictly against any kind of violence toward women!☕

The only thing missing from your story is the part where America promises her mountains and valleys, offering endless gifts, and egging her on to cheat on Mr. Russia. America swears they'll protect her if Mr. Russia turns violent, but when that brute actually starts laying hands on her, America just sits there watching through the window, smiling and giving her a thumbs up, telling her to just hang in there because things will get better soon. 😁div>