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The start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (Part 1)

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William Anderson5 William Anderson5 Active Member
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joined Jan 2013
#1961 ·
bonesy said:Let's review the basics here. Ukraine has been arming itself for months, all while Putin keeps issuing his warnings.

Good grief, can you seriously not see that there were actual reasons to arm up? You people are living in a parallel universe...
rustywalker1 rustywalker1 Active Member
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joined Jun 2011
#1962 ·


Better not wake a sleeping giant. ☕
Dennis Davis8 Dennis Davis8 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2022
#1963 ·
Petro Poroshenko stands there in front of a CNN camera acting like some kind of legendary hero—it’s honestly a joke. Just a total soap opera.
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If you look at the secret Jewish agenda laid out in The New York Times, the whole goal becomes crystal clear: they’re trying to establish a second Jewish state, which explains why the political chaos in Ukraine is spiraling the way it is. Basically, there's this push to reclaim an ancient homeland. They've got full backing from the US, with Victoria Nuland pulling the strings from within the State Department. The US is essentially telling Vladimir Putin to back off and just let Russia maintain its historical ties with that people—ties that lead straight to modern-day Israel. Even Obama basically went on the record admitting that the regime change in Ukraine was orchestrated; Yanukovych was forced out under intense pressure from the CIA, the CIA, and Israel just to clear a path for the Jewish billionaire Petro Poroshenko. According to the reports, Jewish money and military hardware are flooding through Ukraine while the local Ukrainian Christians—the non-Jews—get slaughtered and wiped out, all while their property gets snatched up by Jewish oligarchs. Everything else? It's just theater for the masses who don't know any better.
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Keith Williams3 Keith Williams3 Member
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joined Feb 2022
#1964 ·
velvetcyclist95 said:Fine then, let's just park NATO right on Belarus's doorstep and see how they like it.


You've gotta realize that when people say "NATO border," they really mean an expanded American border.
Jeremy Peterson4 Jeremy Peterson4 Active Member
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joined Mar 2023
#1965 ·
rustywalker1 said:


Better not wake a sleeping giant. ☕

Hahaha, this one's gold. 🤣
Kevin Murphy7 Kevin Murphy7 Member
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joined Feb 2022
#1966 ·
The absolute worst part of this whole mess right now is those 12,000 fighters being brought in just to commit atrocities against civilians. It's a move designed to crush Ukrainian morale, and the Russian military won't even have to take the blame for it directly.
Thomas Nelson25 Thomas Nelson25 Regular
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joined Jan 2021
#1967 ·
Culture, philharmonics, sports, art, etc.

It’s pretty obvious there's massive Western pressure being put on the Russian intelligentsia right now.
"Go ahead and condemn the war publicly—don't be afraid."

They're clearly spooked... though maybe they'll eventually hit the streets.
velvetcyclist95 velvetcyclist95 Active Member
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joined Jan 2018
#1968 ·
Kyiv’s under a total police lockdown until Monday morning.

Anyone caught out on the streets is basically being flagged as an enemy combatant or a saboteur...

I just hope all those civilians who grabbed a gun but aren't part of an actual organized unit have cleared out. They're asking to get hit by their own side at this rate.
electricstag9 electricstag9 Active Member
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joined Feb 2020
#1969 ·
The executive board of the US Ski & Snowboard just held a meeting and officially announced their decision: they aren't interested in seeing any Russian athletes showing up at the upcoming competitions hosted right here in the States over the next few weeks.
neonpuma30 neonpuma30 Member
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joined Aug 2020
#1970 ·
mistycanyon67 said:Go back to basics here. Ukraine has been gearing up for months, and Putin just won't stop making those warnings.

Well, the US has been arming up for months too—along with Mexico, Russia, and pretty much the rest of the entire planet!🤦
Laura Scott7 Laura Scott7 Member
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joined Feb 2022
#1971 ·
Everything is going exactly according to the Russian playbook—they’ve basically got total air superiority at this point. Airports are already under control, resistance is looking pretty thin, and tanks are just cruising down the highways like they're out for a Sunday drive through the suburbs. Gaza is practically sitting there with a target on its back, wide open. Honestly, Ukraine doesn't stand a chance anymore, and it's pure madness for Zelenskyy to keep pushing this; he needs to just call it, surrender, and actually try to save what's left of his people's lives.
Michael Davis10 Michael Davis10 Active Member
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joined Feb 2022
#1972 ·
crimsonlynx24 said:Honestly, the sheer amount of propaganda coming out of Western media outlets—including our own domestic news cycles—is enough to make anyone lose their appetite. It’s all just mindless reporting without a single shred of fact-checking; modern journalism has essentially devolved into a race for clickbait because everyone seems obsessed with chasing that glossy, Hollywood-inspired Western lifestyle. And let’s be real: any propaganda peddled by the West carries significantly more weight than anything coming from the East... it’s effectively their primary weapon of choice in this information war.

Take a look at a site like the New York Post, for instance... one headline screams that Erdogan has shut down the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles.

Journalism is totally trashed. It used to be that reporters were actually out on the front lines, but now they just scroll through Twitter and call that their only news source.
gentlemoose57 gentlemoose57 Active Member
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#1973 ·
neonpuma30 said:Total nonsense, honestly. It’s like Tchaikovsky has anything to do with Putin! 🤦

It doesn't even matter at this point; we should just cancel all of Russia entirely. Erase them from history.
Lisa Patel4 Lisa Patel4 Active Member
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joined Oct 2014
#1974 ·
Does anyone here have a map handy?
I think Russia is being completely delusional if they actually believe they can take over all of Ukraine. My guess is they just want to secure all of Novorossiya and grab everything east of the Dnieper. If they pull that off, the rest of Ukraine loses its strategic value entirely. They'd be stripped of their coastline and their most vital economic hubs.
Betty Carter3 Betty Carter3 Member
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joined Feb 2022
#1975 ·
Ashley Ramirez4 said:Maybe check history again—kings and emperors used to be right there in the thick of it. 😬

I know that. But those days are long gone.
casualranger15 casualranger15 Member
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#1976 ·
Looks like some Russians wearing Ukrainian uniforms got caught out in Nikopol.

https://twitter.com/tomek_przybysz/s...036998/photo/1
Ashley Ramirez4 Ashley Ramirez4 Active Member
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#1977 ·
Jeremy Peterson4 said:Hahaha, this one's gold. 🤣

Got robbed at a supermarket either today or yesterday... 😬
Ashley Ramirez4 Ashley Ramirez4 Active Member
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joined Dec 2012
#1978 ·
Melissa Ward said:I wouldn't say that's quite true! Honestly, technology tends to take these massive leaps forward right during and immediately after a conflict. Look at World War II—it practically handed us nuclear energy, microwave tech, the entire semiconductor industry, jet engines, rockets, and so many other incredible breakthroughs!

Actually, most of that was basically already there before WWII—except maybe semiconductors, which came later. But, say, nylon came out of WWII (thanks to parachutes and socks being side products).
Radar (microwaves)—that’s what basically saved Britain in 1940. It existed, but without the war, it probably wouldn't have been ready for use back then. Early versions of jet engines and rockets (the Chinese were using rocket tech since gunpowder was invented, I guess) were also around before WWII. Even nuclear reactors existed before WWII—it was just the bomb itself that got built during the war.

So, it turns out none of that stuff actually "came from" WWII. 😬

Take the Sherman tank, for example. It helped the Americans win against Germany, and it was designed before the invasion of the USSR. But mass production didn't really kick in until late 1941. Funny enough, that's exactly when the tide turned on the Eastern Front. And yeah, the Sherman tank was an American design.
Roger Fowler Roger Fowler Active Member
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#1979 ·
Rachel Allen55 said:In Denmark, we have academic inflation—a bunch of unemployed intellectuals—yet everyone keeps droning on about "importing skilled labor." Denmark has been overhauled by this supposed skilled workforce, but honestly, you need to take that "skilled labor" claim with a massive grain of salt around here.

Denmark barely does any business with Ukraine. A handful of Danes in the IT sector moved there just for the cheap labor. Plus, Ukraine isn't even an EU member.

Business between Denmark and Ukraine has been almost purely symbolic. I couldn't tell you how things stood between America and Ukraine regarding that kind of thing.

I'm not talking about specific companies, but rather the entire pool of available talent; Ukraine is, in any case, a far better talent pool than somewhere like the North America, which is already in the EU. Denmark is a highly technical nation that needs engineers—real engineers with brains who actually possess specialized knowledge—and Ukraine has that in spades, given their excellent schools and universities. Their industry demands intelligence, because you certainly aren't going to build a rocket engine if you're incompetent.
What does this mean? It means that Denmark, and more importantly, heavy industrial powers like Germany, have a massive vested interest in recruiting people like that: engineers, master tradespeople, technicians, mechanics, and electrical experts. That is exactly what Ukraine provides.

I am not talking about the likes of Mujet or Haset performing jobs that any idiot could learn; I am talking about professions where skills are built over years, addressing the exact void that is currently felt across the EU.
velvetcyclist95 velvetcyclist95 Active Member
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#1980 ·
What the hell are these people doing in Buffalo?

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