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The start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (Part 1)

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Betty Murphy3 Betty Murphy3 Member
47 messages
joined Feb 2022
#1981 ·
Keith Morgan10 said:The whole corona situation had similar—maybe even bigger—propaganda levels, where all the Western media outlets and politicians basically acted as one single unit. It feels just like this. You can't even browse the web without running into some Ukrainian outlet pushing an angle.

We've been through this before, though it seems everyone has developed a very short memory. The West turned its back on us, too—only offering support or flying our flags when it suited them. We pushed through and fought because we didn't have any other choice. Much like the Ukrainians today, they don't have an alternative. Their only other option is to become slaves—modern-day servants to the little men in the Kremlin.
Keith Williams3 Keith Williams3 Member
29 messages
joined Feb 2022
#1982 ·
William Anderson5 said:Putin didn't actually offer anything. He just sent over a list of demands. There wasn't even anything to reject. Which "offer" from Putin did Biden turn down?...


The demand to leave Ukraine.
Jeremy Peterson4 Jeremy Peterson4 Active Member
112 messages
joined Mar 2023
#1983 ·
Laura Scott7 said:Everything is going exactly according to the Russian playbook—they’ve basically got total air superiority at this point. Airports are already under control, resistance is looking pretty thin, and tanks are just cruising down the highways like they're out for a Sunday drive through the suburbs. Gaza is practically sitting there with a target on its back, wide open. Honestly, Ukraine doesn't stand a chance anymore, and it's pure madness for Zelenskyy to keep pushing this; he needs to just call it, surrender, and actually try to save what's left of his people's lives.

Did you get that from RT or something? 🤣
Paul Patel95 Paul Patel95 Member
31 messages
joined Feb 2018
#1984 ·
casualranger15 said:Looks like some Russians wearing Ukrainian uniforms got caught out in Nikopol.

https://twitter.com/tomek_przybysz/s...036998/photo/1

Just another day of war crimes, I guess. Nothing ever changes with these KGB fascists.
Charles Davis9 Charles Davis9 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Feb 2022
#1985 ·
Laura Scott7 said:Everything is going exactly according to the Russian playbook—they’ve basically got total air superiority at this point. Airports are already under control, resistance is looking pretty thin, and tanks are just cruising down the highways like they're out for a Sunday drive through the suburbs. Gaza is practically sitting there with a target on its back, wide open. Honestly, Ukraine doesn't stand a chance anymore, and it's pure madness for Zelenskyy to keep pushing this; he needs to just call it, surrender, and actually try to save what's left of his people's lives.

You're trolling way too obviously.🤦
mistycanyon67 mistycanyon67 Member
19 messages
joined Apr 2009
#1986 ·
brightheron64 said:It seems our cultural institutions are jumping on the bandwagon too 😲

The Philadelphia Orchestra has pulled several Tchaikovsky pieces from their program due to the situation in Ukraine

I guess what does Tchaikovsky have to do with the current Russian government? If they cut a contemporary composer, maybe I'd get it. But this? 🤦

Are we waiting until they start banning British artists over colonization crimes? Or German ones due to the Nazi stain? Or maybe Americans because of wars everywhere?
Rebecca Lewis7 Rebecca Lewis7 Member
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joined Feb 2022
#1987 ·
restlessmason54 said:Man, Americans just print money like there's no tomorrow and throw it around everywhere like the future doesn't even exist! 🙏

Now they will likely ship off some outdated, discarded American hardware—just like they do with us—only to charge massive fees via American aircraft for the transport and the supposed refurbishment required to make it functional again.

Then comes the inevitable sale of ammunition for said weaponry, priced at ten times the market rate. Of course, nations at war lack the luxury of choice. They’ll extend credit, but it’s strictly commodity-based; they send over their surplus, say, old junk, which Ukraine then sells for half its value, only to find they must use that remaining pittance to purchase more American arms. Heaven forbid they look toward Korean, French, or Japanese options, which would be a hundred times more efficient and affordable, because that wouldn't qualify as "American military aid." God help us from such "assistance."

These are nothing more than the ancient, slave-driving colonial games played by B@B scum.

They should simply send the cutting-edge military equipment and troops they actually promised., though one must remember that such promises are merely empty rhetoric used to fool the gullible, typical of B@B scum and their fraudulent pledges.
Betty Murphy3 Betty Murphy3 Member
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joined Feb 2022
#1988 ·
William Anderson5 said:If this turns out to be true, it means the madman has decided to personally oversee operations, much like Hitler did...

Even better—it’ll be over faster. He isn't exactly outsmarting any Russian general, I'm sure. This could turn out quite well for the Ukrainians; hand everything over to a fool, let him run the show, and then watch them retreat to a bunker just like Hitler did—with the slight difference that, in this scenario, his own people will likely come looking for him.
Betty Carter3 Betty Carter3 Member
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joined Feb 2022
#1989 ·
Betty Murphy3 said:And then we have our folks here, blindly following a clown—honestly, do they really think he isn't ready for World War III? Have they all just forgotten about Hitler, Stalin, and the rest of that crew? As if all that happened a thousand years ago rather than just last century. Incredible people—truly incredible—I read this stuff and I can hardly believe my eyes.

I haven't seen anyone rooting for Putin. It's just about pointing out the double standards. For instance, why didn't we kick the Russians out of SWIFT?
Oh, right. They start wars in the name of democracy. I almost forgot.
neonpuma30 neonpuma30 Member
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joined Aug 2020
#1990 ·
Keith Williams3 said:Come on, stop lying. Putin actually sent a message two months ago.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...e-ukraine-nato

Biden shot him down.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...livered-letter

Wait, is Biden actually the President of Ukraine? 😂🤦

Do you actually know anything about international relations? Like, how those kinds of demands are even made, the whole negotiation process, or what the actual procedure looks like?
velvetcyclist95 velvetcyclist95 Active Member
93 messages
joined Jan 2018
#1991 ·
Betty Carter3 said:I haven't seen anyone rooting for Putin. It's just about pointing out the double standards. For instance, why didn't we kick the Russians out of SWIFT?
Oh, right. They start wars in the name of democracy. I almost forgot.

🤣

Life ain't fair
cosmicgull52 cosmicgull52 Active Member
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joined Nov 2023
#1992 ·
neonpuma30 said:Total nonsense, honestly. It’s like Tchaikovsky has anything to do with Putin! 🤦

This is fake news. It was debunked this morning.
Richard Cooper3 Richard Cooper3 Member
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joined Feb 2022
#1993 ·
Jeremy Peterson4 said:Looks like Canada isn't trying to pull a Mexico here—they’re basically saying they'll do whatever they want, no questions asked. They really need to pick a side. You're either in or you're out, right?

According to The Guardian, Canadian PM Viktor Orbán claims he's going to back every single EU sanction against Russia and won't be blocking anything.


It's that classic American cowboy attitude—you're either with us or you're against us. But I guess that's why they're seen as the beacon of democracy.
Just look at how this Russian invasion compares to when the US went into Iraq—the Americans bombed everything first, and then they finally started the ground offensive.
I think this is just the beginning, too. Things paused because Zelenskyy was given 24 hours to agree to negotiations.
The Bosphorus, the pipelines? Don't worry about it. It's just business as usual. Everything stays open. ☕
William Anderson5 William Anderson5 Active Member
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joined Jan 2013
#1994 ·
Keith Williams3 said:The demand to leave Ukraine.

Is Putin suggesting that Russia would pull out of Ukraine if his demands are met? Are we talking about Crimea? And did Biden turn that down?

Could someone drop a link for me?
casualranger15 casualranger15 Member
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#1995 ·
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMhXRvmX...jpg&name=large

Looks like some gear just got snatched right out from under a bunch of looters over in Nikopol.
velvetcyclist95 velvetcyclist95 Active Member
93 messages
joined Jan 2018
#1996 ·
mistycanyon67 said:Go back to basics here. Ukraine’s been stacking up hardware for months now, while Putin just keeps sounding the alarm.

Russia is totally unprepared and basically irrelevant.
Keith Williams3 Keith Williams3 Member
29 messages
joined Feb 2022
#1997 ·
neonpuma30 said:Wait, is Biden actually the President of Ukraine? 😂🤦

Do you actually know anything about international relations? Like, how those kinds of demands are even made, the whole negotiation process, or what the actual procedure looks like?


Putin doesn't know, but clearly you've got it all figured out. Right.
Betty Carter3 Betty Carter3 Member
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joined Feb 2022
#1998 ·
gentlemoose57 said:It doesn't even matter at this point; we should just cancel all of Russia entirely. Erase them from history.

That's not happening.
I'm actually listening to Russian music right now. Total hardbass.
Link
velvetcyclist95 velvetcyclist95 Active Member
93 messages
joined Jan 2018
#1999 ·
mistycanyon67 said:I guess what does Tchaikovsky have to do with the current Russian government? If they cut a contemporary composer, maybe I'd get it. But this? 🤦

Are we waiting until they start banning British artists over colonization crimes? Or German ones due to the Nazi stain? Or maybe Americans because of wars everywhere?

They pulled some upbeat pieces from the repertoire, but they've denied that a million times already.
Paul Patel95 Paul Patel95 Member
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joined Feb 2018
#2000 ·
Russia is seriously sending these paratroopers in without a single damn thought

At this rate, fighter squadrons are gonna be busy rounding them up on the runways

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