2021/2022 School Year

wanderingbadger44 said:In terms of how they actually have to be enforced, what's the fundamental difference between them?

nimbleranger17 said:Honestly, it feels like you don't even grasp the most fundamental legal concepts. I mean, really, we’re sitting here having this conversation, and it becomes increasingly apparent that the basic tenets of the law are just flying right over your head. It’s a bit exhausting, if I'm being completely honest.

You have to respect the US Constitution, the federal laws, and all those various administrative regulations just as much as one another. It’s an even playing field, really. That is simply how the legal system functions here in America.

But that is exactly what I am talking about.
The content and structure of any lower-level regulation must align perfectly with the requirements of the higher legal act—that's what we call the Principle of Legality.

I'm not arguing about whether people choose to follow the rules or break them. My point is that the rules and laws themselves must respect the US Constitution and basic human rights.

No one can stop Klinc from getting an education, plain and simple. Not a single regulation, not a single law...

And honestly, it’s perfectly legal.

It wouldn't even be legal if a higher authority—say, a federal statute or a major piece of legislation—explicitly stated: "In the United States, children and minors are strictly prohibited from wearing face masks." But since that isn't the case, we don't have that problem.

Does it click for you now why these specific sub-regulations actually align so neatly with the overarching laws?

Sean Peterson76 said:Are all these people protesting in Palm Springs working afternoon shifts just so they can make it out to stand in front of the elementary school in the morning?

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. 🤣
Then you've got the crowd that can just sit at a coffee shop all day long. ☕

cheers

Honestly, it’s just wild to see about fifteen of these intensely concerned parents camped out in front of the elementary school for a week straight, practically from sunrise until high noon.

We'll have to see how things play out next week once they start rotating through afternoon shifts.

But really, if you stop to think about it, it’s quite fascinating—it’s truly something else how fifteen grown adults can spend an entire week, day after day, standing right outside a school during peak working hours.
I mean, maybe they all collectively decided to burn through their entire stash of vacation days just for this one little moment.😁

Rachel Barrett8 said:But that is exactly what I am talking about.
The content and structure of any lower-level regulation must align perfectly with the requirements of the higher legal act—that's what we call the Principle of Legality.

I'm not arguing about whether people choose to follow the rules or break them. My point is that the rules and laws themselves must respect the US Constitution and basic human rights.

No one can stop Klinc from getting an education, plain and simple. Not a single regulation, not a single law...

Sure, they should have consulted a lawyer first and framed this more intelligently. The kid should have shown up to Elementary School every single morning without a mask and demanded a written notice if they intended to send him home. If they tried to kick him out, the principal and the school would be facing a lawsuit because attending school is a right under US Law.

I’ve seen cases where students hit teachers and the harshest punishment they got was just being transferred to a different school.

If anyone reading this actually knows the kid, this is exactly how he needs to handle it.

nimbleranger17 said:Honestly, it’s just wild to see about fifteen of these intensely concerned parents camped out in front of the elementary school for a week straight, practically from sunrise until high noon.

We'll have to see how things play out next week once they start rotating through afternoon shifts.

But really, if you stop to think about it, it’s quite fascinating—it’s truly something else how fifteen grown adults can spend an entire week, day after day, standing right outside a school during peak working hours.
I mean, maybe they all collectively decided to burn through their entire stash of vacation days just for this one little moment.😁

Mozda they lost their jobs because of lockdowns, mandates, social distancing, whatever. It’s not like 114 million people globally didn't lose their livelihoods because of it back in 2020.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/...obal-job-loss/

Amanda Diaz said:Sure, they should have consulted a lawyer first and framed this more intelligently. The kid should have shown up to Elementary School every single morning without a mask and demanded a written notice if they intended to send him home. If they tried to kick him out, the principal and the school would be facing a lawsuit because attending school is a right under US Law.

I’ve seen cases where students hit teachers and the harshest punishment they got was just being transferred to a different school.

If anyone reading this actually knows the kid, this is exactly how he needs to handle it.

I can just switch him over to remote learning. 😉

Hey.

mellownomad7 said:I can just switch him over to remote learning. 😉

Hey.

Oh sure, because it's so easy to just hire and pay extra teachers to run online sessions after they've already finished teaching the exact same curriculum in person to his classmates. No big deal, right?

Amanda Diaz said:Oh sure, because it's so easy to just hire and pay extra teachers to run online sessions after they've already finished teaching the exact same curriculum in person to his classmates. No big deal, right?

If a kid's stuck in quarantine or whatever other excuse they pull, the school is legally required to provide... blah blah blah.
It’s all laid out on paper, but good luck actually making it work in the real world.

later

mellownomad7 said:If a kid's stuck in quarantine or whatever other excuse they pull, the school is legally required to provide... blah blah blah.
It’s all laid out on paper, but good luck actually making it work in the real world.

later

Honestly, I don't think that's even part of the theory, let alone some practical plan where the school is obligated to accommodate someone just because they decide, for no real reason, that they don't want to step foot inside the building.
If they end up repeating a grade next year, maybe then there won't be any more pandemic restrictions hanging over everyone's heads.🎉

Over in Sinji, they’ve officially decided that masks aren't required in schools anymore.

I’d love for someone to explain the actual epidemiological logic behind one school being forced to mandate masks while the school right down the road isn't.

It’s peak idiocy.

mellownomad7 said:If a kid's stuck in quarantine or whatever other excuse they pull, the school is legally required to provide... blah blah blah.
It’s all laid out on paper, but good luck actually making it work in the real world.

later

Last resort: move the whole school back to the third grade building. Peace. 🙂

Linda Lee4 said:Over in Sinji, they’ve officially decided that masks aren't required in schools anymore.

I’d love for someone to explain the actual epidemiological logic behind one school being forced to mandate masks while the school right down the road isn't.

It’s peak idiocy.

I guess maybe that was just a decision made by some distant relative of that old Captain Gaćeša from the Krapina clan.

Jesse Bailey91 said:Last resort: move the whole school back to the third grade building. Peace. 🙂

🤣 🤣

Linda Lee4 said:Over in Sinji, they’ve officially decided that masks aren't required in schools anymore.

I’d love for someone to explain the actual epidemiological logic behind one school being forced to mandate masks while the school right down the road isn't.

It’s peak idiocy.

Nothing has actually been decided in San Diego.

The fact that the San Diego mayor thinks he’s the master of the universe is his own personal issue—not ours.

BTW, has anyone actually published any credentials regarding this father who sits outside the school every single day to "educate" his son? I mean, clearly, the man possesses an incredibly vast spectrum of knowledge and expertise if he's supposedly capable of "educating" an eighth grader in every single subject.

Nicholas King said:Nothing has actually been decided in San Diego.

The fact that the San Diego mayor thinks he’s the master of the universe is his own personal issue—not ours.

BTW, has anyone actually published any credentials regarding this father who sits outside the school every single day to "educate" his son? I mean, clearly, the man possesses an incredibly vast spectrum of knowledge and expertise if he's supposedly capable of "educating" an eighth grader in every single subject.

And why the hell do you care what his profession is?
Jesus, what is he doing, how does he make a living, where does he find the time? Now we're checking his degree? It's not like he's some high-profile celebrity whose blood type needs auditing. You guys are clearly obsessed with Gaćeša.
And I know exactly why.
Because he’s playing the martyr—playing the victim for his son, himself, and his family—to pull at those same emotional heartstrings that the COVID cultists think they own exclusively.
And it's working on a lot of people.

If he finished middle school, he's more than qualified to teach his kid.

Nicholas King said:Nothing has actually been decided in San Diego.

The fact that the San Diego mayor thinks he’s the master of the universe is his own personal issue—not ours.

BTW, has anyone actually published any credentials regarding this father who sits outside the school every single day to "educate" his son? I mean, clearly, the man possesses an incredibly vast spectrum of knowledge and expertise if he's supposedly capable of "educating" an eighth grader in every single subject.

Sinai is a true Hero.
He doesn't need schooling ☕

It looks like the Delta variant is really starting to spread among students, and honestly, it seems to be hitting them a bit harder than those earlier strains. It’s even popping up more frequently in public spaces too.

Also, I’d probably suggest that teachers look into getting vaccinated if they can, just because they're going to be catching it from the kids, and there’s really no way around that part.

As for masks, I guess using high-quality ones would help quite a bit, and maybe keeping the classrooms well-ventilated would make a difference as well.
No matter how you slice it, though, we’re likely looking at what’s been happening across the rest of the States, which basically means dealing with regular cluster outbreaks in schools throughout this academic year.

-Steve

casper77 said:A true "patriotic Catholic." He’ll head to confession this Sunday, take his penance, sit through Mass, and then turn right back into an internet warrior fighting against the "old guard."

You’re such a mindless follower, aren't you? Why bother thinking for yourself when some random person in the comments tells you exactly what to believe or when you should just listen to John Kekin? It’s pathetic. You wouldn't need a mask in a classroom, but apparently, you need one in the hallway; it's so incredibly stupid that trying to explain it feels like a waste of breath, but I suppose there’s no point talking sense to people who have completely given up their own agency.

Nicholas King said:Nothing has actually been decided in San Diego.

The fact that the San Diego mayor thinks he’s the master of the universe is his own personal issue—not ours.

BTW, has anyone actually published any credentials regarding this father who sits outside the school every single day to "educate" his son? I mean, clearly, the man possesses an incredibly vast spectrum of knowledge and expertise if he's supposedly capable of "educating" an eighth grader in every single subject.

I honestly thought I was the only one left feeling completely stunned by the total lack of investigative journalism on this.

It’s hard to wrap my head around how the news outlets are reporting this as if it’s just a given that his dad is some sort of walking encyclopedia with master-level degrees in social sciences, humanities, and hard sciences, complete with specialized training in pedagogy and teaching methods.

To me, the fact that not a single reporter has stepped up to challenge this is just profoundly disheartening.

He’s out there throwing shade, but he can't even get a word in edgewise because the crowd backing him is getting pretty damn huge.