2021/2022 School Year

Larry Walker24 said:EVERYONE who turns 15 loses their right to attend Elementary School

In that group, it's mostly usually Rom

Didn't your mother teach you that lying is wrong?

I honestly don't care what everyone else's specific take on masks is—I'm just trying to get some clarity here. Should high schoolers in an American school be required to wear them during class, or not?

I get the feeling people are just tearing this whole group apart—or whatever you want to call them—simply because they’ve been dragged into the spotlight by the media and now everyone’s jumping on them. And from what I understand about this particular school, masks aren't even mandatory in the classrooms, just in the hallways. This kid and his dad aren't even willing to wear them in the halls. Fine, whatever.

My point in posting this is to find out what you all think about wearing masks when it's required constantly. We're talking 6 or 7 periods of school!

The reason I'm asking is that my daughter has been dealing with constant headaches. She comes home every single day complaining of a headache, saying the mask is making her feel like she can't breathe. And I believe her—I mean, I've worn a mask for maybe two hours and felt like I was going to pass out. She's stuck in one for five.

So, where do I even go from here? How do I start fixing this? Do I go to her pediatrician to see if she can get a medical waiver?

Tyler Ruiz502 said:I honestly don't care what everyone else's specific take on masks is—I'm just trying to get some clarity here. Should high schoolers in an American school be required to wear them during class, or not?

I get the feeling people are just tearing this whole group apart—or whatever you want to call them—simply because they’ve been dragged into the spotlight by the media and now everyone’s jumping on them. And from what I understand about this particular school, masks aren't even mandatory in the classrooms, just in the hallways. This kid and his dad aren't even willing to wear them in the halls. Fine, whatever.

My point in posting this is to find out what you all think about wearing masks when it's required constantly. We're talking 6 or 7 periods of school!

The reason I'm asking is that my daughter has been dealing with constant headaches. She comes home every single day complaining of a headache, saying the mask is making her feel like she can't breathe. And I believe her—I mean, I've worn a mask for maybe two hours and felt like I was going to pass out. She's stuck in one for five.

So, where do I even go from here? How do I start fixing this? Do I go to her pediatrician to see if she can get a medical waiver?

It actually does matter, I think.☕
The guy just doesn't want his son to wear a mask for two minutes; it feels like he's just being difficult for the sake of it.
If someone is dealing with serious medical issues, a doctor would probably write them a note from the CDC or something saying they shouldn't wear one.
Everyone else can probably manage.
And this whole "shaming" thing after wearing a mask for just two hours... maybe it's even psychological.😉

amberrider said:People in Sweden don't even know what a mask is, so what's the relevance? My point was about why certain schools are forcing masks onto young kids, which goes directly against the Department's guidelines and recommendations.

Since when does a recommendation or a guideline actually become a mandate?

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urbantinker8 said:It actually does matter, I think.☕
The guy just doesn't want his son to wear a mask for two minutes; it feels like he's just being difficult for the sake of it.
If someone is dealing with serious medical issues, a doctor would probably write them a note from the CDC or something saying they shouldn't wear one.
Everyone else can probably manage.
And this whole "shaming" thing after wearing a mask for just two hours... maybe it's even psychological.😉

If you're seriously trying to argue that the backlash against wearing masks is just some psychological thing, then how do you explain why kids aren't even doing PE classes under masks? I mean, if it's all in their heads, why is the physical stuff being skipped?
Niki's got a problem, and honestly, just imagine how many viruses are jumping around when kids are running wild during PE class.

urbantinker8 said:It actually does matter, I think.☕
The guy just doesn't want his son to wear a mask for two minutes; it feels like he's just being difficult for the sake of it.
If someone is dealing with serious medical issues, a doctor would probably write them a note from the CDC or something saying they shouldn't wear one.
Everyone else can probably manage.
And this whole "shaming" thing after wearing a mask for just two hours... maybe it's even psychological.😉

Exactly, it’s honestly just a total joke to force her to wear that for two minutes. What’s even the point of doing that besides just being a blatant power trip?

Look, it could genuinely be an issue, or maybe the person is just being a psycho, but if something is actually bothering someone, why on earth would you keep forcing it on them?
Some people honestly think it’s perfectly fine to shove a dog right in the face of someone who’s terrified of them, or to tell someone struggling with depression that they should just "look on the bright side." I guess there’s some kind of payoff for wearing a mask, but honestly, what is it even worth? If someone actually has an issue with it, and you can't even prove that wearing one makes a tangible difference—especially in these mindless situations where you only wear it for two minutes before hanging out with the same group of people without any restrictions anyway—then what’s the actual point?

Tyler Ruiz502 said:I honestly don't care what everyone else's specific take on masks is—I'm just trying to get some clarity here. Should high schoolers in an American school be required to wear them during class, or not?

I get the feeling people are just tearing this whole group apart—or whatever you want to call them—simply because they’ve been dragged into the spotlight by the media and now everyone’s jumping on them. And from what I understand about this particular school, masks aren't even mandatory in the classrooms, just in the hallways. This kid and his dad aren't even willing to wear them in the halls. Fine, whatever.

My point in posting this is to find out what you all think about wearing masks when it's required constantly. We're talking 6 or 7 periods of school!

The reason I'm asking is that my daughter has been dealing with constant headaches. She comes home every single day complaining of a headache, saying the mask is making her feel like she can't breathe. And I believe her—I mean, I've worn a mask for maybe two hours and felt like I was going to pass out. She's stuck in one for five.

So, where do I even go from here? How do I start fixing this? Do I go to her pediatrician to see if she can get a medical waiver?

If I remember correctly, someone posted a study from either Austria or Germany earlier in this thread about how masks affect kids of different ages—assuming it hasn't been deleted yet. Basically, it suggested there might be more harm than good after just thirty minutes or an hour, something like lowered oxygen levels and all that stuff that people used to dismiss as conspiracy theories. It seemed to hit the younger kids harder, but generally, the results were negative.

Maybe try talking to the doctor first. If that doesn't work, maybe look into getting a mask made from a more breathable material. 🤔

fadedranger162 said:If I remember correctly, someone posted a study from either Austria or Germany earlier in this thread about how masks affect kids of different ages—assuming it hasn't been deleted yet. Basically, it suggested there might be more harm than good after just thirty minutes or an hour, something like lowered oxygen levels and all that stuff that people used to dismiss as conspiracy theories. It seemed to hit the younger kids harder, but generally, the results were negative.

Maybe try talking to the doctor first. If that doesn't work, maybe look into getting a mask made from a more breathable material. 🤔

Has anyone actually mentioned the specific reason why masks are mandatory for kids?
I mean the actual medical reasoning, not some religious angle.

fadedranger162 said:If I remember correctly, someone posted a study from either Austria or Germany earlier in this thread about how masks affect kids of different ages—assuming it hasn't been deleted yet. Basically, it suggested there might be more harm than good after just thirty minutes or an hour, something like lowered oxygen levels and all that stuff that people used to dismiss as conspiracy theories. It seemed to hit the younger kids harder, but generally, the results were negative.

Maybe try talking to the doctor first. If that doesn't work, maybe look into getting a mask made from a more breathable material. 🤔

The ones from CVS are suffocating. We even picked up some colored ones—yellow, purple—and oh my god, they smell absolutely atrocious. I've never had the blue ones smell that bad, not even after wearing them for a week straight.

Cotton ones are much easier to deal with; actually, she mentioned feeling fine this week while wearing cotton. Though, her glasses keep fogging up.

Maybe try some linen ones.

coastalorca43 said:The absolute worst thing you can do to young minds is force them into mindless, arbitrary tasks.
They know it makes no sense, but they have to do it just because some authority figure said so. It’s total Guantanamo vibes. We saw this kind of stuff back in the day with the US Army too—just a way to crush anyone who actually thinks for themselves.
What really kills me is how the other kids don't even question the principal's idiotic rules.

And let's be real, most kids just do whatever their parents tell them to do anyway.

Rachel Barrett8 said:Has anyone actually mentioned the specific reason why masks are mandatory for kids?
I mean the actual medical reasoning, not some religious angle.

Over in Sweden, schools are totally anti-mask. According to the reports they got, there weren't any child victims from COVID, and teachers were getting infected at basically the same rate as everyone else (so no, kids aren't these little hidden assassins targeting grandparents).

Tyler Ruiz502 said:The ones from CVS are suffocating. We even picked up some colored ones—yellow, purple—and oh my god, they smell absolutely atrocious. I've never had the blue ones smell that bad, not even after wearing them for a week straight.

Cotton ones are much easier to deal with; actually, she mentioned feeling fine this week while wearing cotton. Though, her glasses keep fogging up.

Maybe try some linen ones.

Yeah, and that's the big question: with all this stuff being imported now, what kind of quality control is actually happening? What are they even using to disinfect these things, if they bother at all?

Honestly, I'm thinking maybe she could just make a new one out of a fabric that actually feels good, or repurpose the ones she has. You could sew in a bit of wire along the edge—maybe something like what florists use, or even some insulated copper wire (like a solid strand, not that braided flimsy stuff) that's easy to find. Just put something soft over the wire so it doesn't chafe her nose. That way she can shape it to fit her face better, and then bend the other side to create a gap so the breath escapes without fogging up her glasses. 🤷

fadedranger162 said:And let's be real, most kids just do whatever their parents tell them to do anyway.

Over in Sweden, schools are totally anti-mask. According to the reports they got, there weren't any child victims from COVID, and teachers were getting infected at basically the same rate as everyone else (so no, kids aren't these little hidden assassins targeting grandparents).

Yeah, and that's the big question: with all this stuff being imported now, what kind of quality control is actually happening? What are they even using to disinfect these things, if they bother at all?

Honestly, I'm thinking maybe she could just make a new one out of a fabric that actually feels good, or repurpose the ones she has. You could sew in a bit of wire along the edge—maybe something like what florists use, or even some insulated copper wire (like a solid strand, not that braided flimsy stuff) that's easy to find. Just put something soft over the wire so it doesn't chafe her nose. That way she can shape it to fit her face better, and then bend the other side to create a gap so the breath escapes without fogging up her glasses. 🤷

It’s pretty obvious here in the States too that the virus isn't a major threat to kids. That's why those idiots invented this narrative that children are little bioterrorists killing off their grandmas and grandpas. Honestly, using kids as scapegoats like that is just a brutal form of psychological abuse.

Actually, wouldn't it be better if they caught it? It would let their immune systems "download" the info on this virus, making them more resilient against future mutations. Isn't that how it works?

But hey, we basically bypassed evolution with a single stroke of a pen, didn't we?

Larry Walker24 said:EVERYONE who turns 15 loses their right to attend Elementary School

In that group, it's mostly usually Rom

So, in my daughter's 7th grade class, there's this boy—he's already had two grade deferrals—and he's turning 14 now. Which means by 8th grade, he'll be 15. I mean, if he fails a grade at that point, would they just kick him out?

Tyler Ruiz502 said:I honestly don't care what everyone else's specific take on masks is—I'm just trying to get some clarity here. Should high schoolers in an American school be required to wear them during class, or not?

I get the feeling people are just tearing this whole group apart—or whatever you want to call them—simply because they’ve been dragged into the spotlight by the media and now everyone’s jumping on them. And from what I understand about this particular school, masks aren't even mandatory in the classrooms, just in the hallways. This kid and his dad aren't even willing to wear them in the halls. Fine, whatever.

My point in posting this is to find out what you all think about wearing masks when it's required constantly. We're talking 6 or 7 periods of school!

The reason I'm asking is that my daughter has been dealing with constant headaches. She comes home every single day complaining of a headache, saying the mask is making her feel like she can't breathe. And I believe her—I mean, I've worn a mask for maybe two hours and felt like I was going to pass out. She's stuck in one for five.

So, where do I even go from here? How do I start fixing this? Do I go to her pediatrician to see if she can get a medical waiver?

Personally, I'm against masks. My kid gets headaches too; she actually asked if she could sit in the front row by the window since it's always open.
I'm also totally against these aggressive tactics some parents are pulling in Krapina.
Maybe try getting a medical note from a doctor stating the child shouldn't have to wear one.

Nicholas King said:Nothing has actually been decided in San Diego.

The fact that the San Diego mayor thinks he’s the master of the universe is his own personal issue—not ours.

BTW, has anyone actually published any credentials regarding this father who sits outside the school every single day to "educate" his son? I mean, clearly, the man possesses an incredibly vast spectrum of knowledge and expertise if he's supposedly capable of "educating" an eighth grader in every single subject.

I agree. If Dad were actually an expert on everything, we’d already know about it. He’d be all over this forum, condescendingly lecturing us on every single topic... Those kinds of experts are a rare breed. Pure gold.

Tyler Ruiz502 said:I honestly don't care what everyone else's specific take on masks is—I'm just trying to get some clarity here. Should high schoolers in an American school be required to wear them during class, or not?

I get the feeling people are just tearing this whole group apart—or whatever you want to call them—simply because they’ve been dragged into the spotlight by the media and now everyone’s jumping on them. And from what I understand about this particular school, masks aren't even mandatory in the classrooms, just in the hallways. This kid and his dad aren't even willing to wear them in the halls. Fine, whatever.

My point in posting this is to find out what you all think about wearing masks when it's required constantly. We're talking 6 or 7 periods of school!

The reason I'm asking is that my daughter has been dealing with constant headaches. She comes home every single day complaining of a headache, saying the mask is making her feel like she can't breathe. And I believe her—I mean, I've worn a mask for maybe two hours and felt like I was going to pass out. She's stuck in one for five.

So, where do I even go from here? How do I start fixing this? Do I go to her pediatrician to see if she can get a medical waiver?

What do masks have to do with this topic anyway? They're just a side note...

Tyler Ruiz502 said:The ones from CVS are suffocating. We even picked up some colored ones—yellow, purple—and oh my god, they smell absolutely atrocious. I've never had the blue ones smell that bad, not even after wearing them for a week straight.

Cotton ones are much easier to deal with; actually, she mentioned feeling fine this week while wearing cotton. Though, her glasses keep fogging up.

Maybe try some linen ones.

Don't go wearing those blue masks for a whole week! Toss them after half a day at most.

coastalorca43 said:You guys missed the post with the statement from the Attorney General.
Here is the full text:

Masks damage the psychophysical and social development of students, regardless of what the moral voids and cowards here have been claiming.

If you ask me, this is an embarrassment for the Attorney General. When she went over there, I honestly wondered what she could possibly say—what kind of argument would actually put her on the school's side. And then she goes and says it's not in the child's best interest for parents to teach them not to follow the rules. No, apparently we have to teach them how to be idiots and blindly follow senseless regulations. She really lost my respect.

And this whole situation... instead of just letting the kid go without a mask, you have to be such a moron and so stubbornly backward not to give in. On top of that, all these government institutions are siding with this idiocy instead of dealing with actual important issues. It’s becoming painfully clear exactly what kind of world we live in.

George Ramos13 said:It’s just how the government works. If they make an exception for one kid, they have to make it for everyone. It’s much easier to discipline one rule-breaker than to try and manage an entire society.

Look, if this were actually about anything other than control, they would've done it quietly without all the media circus. Nobody would even know they made an exception for one child. And honestly, if these masks are supposedly so healthy, beneficial, and good for you, why the mandatory push? Most people are smart enough to realize what's good for their own kids and would choose to use them voluntarily without being forced by some federal mandate.

Cesc said:Just imagine if this virus was targeting kids instead of the elderly. All those anti-maskers would suddenly become hardcore mask enthusiasts overnight. It’s easy to be vocal when it’s someone else's problem, right? 🙂

Let's not get carried away with the "what ifs." This virus isn't killing anyone under 60, let alone children. Back in 2020, we already established on Politics that while seniors need protection, it shouldn't come at the expense of the working population. Aside from vaccines, there hasn't been much done to protect the elderly anyway.

Let’s be honest for once. If masking were actually just a suggestion or a guideline, most parents would tell their kids they don't have to wear them if they don't want to. But since it’s clearly a mandatory requirement for attending school, those same parents turn around and demand government intervention, child removal, blood counts, lockdowns, and all sorts of other sanctions. For someone who simply voiced what the majority of people actually think, it's quite something. Such a hypocritical society.

Amanda Diaz said:Sure, they should have consulted a lawyer first and framed this more intelligently. The kid should have shown up to Elementary School every single morning without a mask and demanded a written notice if they intended to send him home. If they tried to kick him out, the principal and the school would be facing a lawsuit because attending school is a right under US Law.

I’ve seen cases where students hit teachers and the harshest punishment they got was just being transferred to a different school.

If anyone reading this actually knows the kid, this is exactly how he needs to handle it.

"They showed up this morning, just like they have for the last 10 days. The father requested a document explicitly stating his son is barred from entering the school, but such a thing doesn't exist—there is only the general enforcement document that applies to everyone," the principal stated."

It looks like your message reached them. Except they aren't handing over that paper. It’s pretty obvious why.

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