2021/2022 School Year

Of course they don't work; masks aren't some magic shield against infection.

Last year, hospitals became massive hot zones for outbreaks, despite everyone wearing hazmat suits, masks, face shields, goggles, and N95s.

BuzzFeed
Major study: There is no clear or reliable evidence that masking in schools actually works.

BuzzFeed (a few hours later)
The anti-masker movement proves these fanatics are gaining ground. However, they aren't the only issue at hand.

wanderingbadger44 said:Let me rephrase this so it's a bit clearer for you: once a student turns fifteen, the government isn't legally required to keep them in the classroom anymore. They can choose to continue their education, or they don't have to. Why would anyone want to push for something like that? 🕺

Whether you want to call it being expelled from school or simply the end of mandatory primary education because the legal requirement has expired—call it whatever makes sense to you.

I’m honestly rooting for some consistency here, so that the kid doesn't have to keep showing up to class and racking up enough absences—regardless of whether they're excused or not—to fail his year-end exams.

Anything is possible at this point.
Poor kid. 😢

I mean, what government would actually want a student who joins the anti-masker movement?!😲😲

Come on, guys... honestly, half the kids are just wearing their masks under their noses anyway—or just carrying them around—right? And I'm pretty sure some teachers are doing the same thing. People are pushing back against regulations everywhere; it’s just that most aren't making nearly as much noise as this one dad. As for those posts about taking kids away from parents just because they won't wear a mask? I'm not even going to go there. Didn't a mother recently beat her child to death? Did that family not trigger an immediate red flag with the CDC?

Henry Lopez15 said:BuzzFeed
Major study: There is no clear or reliable evidence that masking in schools actually works.

BuzzFeed (a few hours later)
The anti-masker movement proves these fanatics are gaining ground. However, they aren't the only issue at hand.

It’s just more of the same media and social madness we've been seeing lately, where they spend days bashing the "anti-maskers" like they're some kind of crazed cult, only to turn around and drop a study basically saying school mask mandates were pretty much useless to begin with.

Honestly, this whole "maskers vs. anti-maskers" divide is just incredibly stupid—it feels totally manufactured to stir up drama and pick fights, because let's be real, nobody actually goes around calling themselves an "anti-masker." That label doesn't even exist in the real world.

Arthur Robinson2 said:I mean, what government would actually want a student who joins the anti-masker movement?!😲😲

Come on, guys... honestly, half the kids are just wearing their masks under their noses anyway—or just carrying them around—right? And I'm pretty sure some teachers are doing the same thing. People are pushing back against regulations everywhere; it’s just that most aren't making nearly as much noise as this one dad. As for those posts about taking kids away from parents just because they won't wear a mask? I'm not even going to go there. Didn't a mother recently beat her child to death? Did that family not trigger an immediate red flag with the CDC?

Mine wears hers under her nose too; I told her to stop, but she just complains about not being able to breathe or getting headaches.

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So, my kid's homeroom teacher just shot over an email saying everything is business as usual at school today, unless the CDC decides to flip the script on us.

Turns out, the guy sitting right next to my little one in class officially tested positive.

driftingtinker said:So, my kid's homeroom teacher just shot over an email saying everything is business as usual at school today, unless the CDC decides to flip the script on us.

Turns out, the guy sitting right next to my little one in class officially tested positive.

Without a confirmed test, everyone should probably just stick to a 14-day isolation period.

How much sick leave am I actually entitled to from the state if I've already recovered, but it’s still been 9 months officially?

coastalorca43 said:Without a confirmed test, everyone should probably just stick to a 14-day isolation period.

I'm signing on that life sentence immediately.

Susan Martin4 said:How much sick leave am I actually entitled to from the state if I've already recovered, but it’s still been 9 months officially?

Well, if you're talking about self-isolation, strictly speaking, not everyone needs to stay home. If you've had both doses of your vaccine—or even just the single shot if we're talking about Johnson's—you're essentially cleared, provided it’s been at least fourteen days since your last jab but hasn't exceeded the nine-month mark yet. The reason they pushed this window out is because, for all intents and purposes, the vaccine was holding its own for about seven months up until now.

Then there's the second group, which includes people who caught COVID and then went ahead and got their first dose within eight months of recovering. For these folks, they won't be required to quarantine for an additional nine months following that first dose. Of course, there’s a massive caveat here: this doesn't apply to anyone who is immunocompromised or over the age of 65. For them, the rules are different; they really need to get both doses regardless of whether they've already fought off the virus.

Regarding isolation requirements, you don't need to isolate if you've recovered from COVID within the last nine months and can back it up with lab results. These three distinct categories are also going to be reflected in the official COVID certificates. Up until lately, the window was seven months for the vaccinated and six months for those who had recovered.

There's also one more category of people who don't need to isolate. That would be anyone classified as a "probable recovery"—basically, people who displayed all the hallmark symptoms of the illness and were living under the same roof as someone who tested positive. In many cases, doctors didn't even bother sending these patients for testing; they just treated them as having already had it.

So, to put it simply, if you've recovered and then you go and get that first vaccine dose just a day before you hit the eight-month mark post-recovery, you should be safe from having to self-isolate for at least a year and five months.

Noah Diaz said:Of course they don't work; masks aren't some magic shield against infection.

Last year, hospitals became massive hot zones for outbreaks, despite everyone wearing hazmat suits, masks, face shields, goggles, and N95s.

Even if they did work, they wouldn't matter. Kids just treat this like a common cold. They wear them under their noses, tucked under their chins, or just holding them in their hands to show they have one. They keep them in their pockets—dirty, crumpled, sweaty. Once they leave the mandatory mask zones, they sit together in cafes or at the park, sharing sandwiches and sodas.

The bottom line is that forcing people to wear masks isn't helping. It would be much more effective to pass laws requiring all new school buildings to have proper ventilation. Instead, we're building architectural disasters that look like goldfish tanks, with zero functional windows.

nimbleranger17 said:Well, if you're talking about self-isolation, strictly speaking, not everyone needs to stay home. If you've had both doses of your vaccine—or even just the single shot if we're talking about Johnson's—you're essentially cleared, provided it’s been at least fourteen days since your last jab but hasn't exceeded the nine-month mark yet. The reason they pushed this window out is because, for all intents and purposes, the vaccine was holding its own for about seven months up until now.

Then there's the second group, which includes people who caught COVID and then went ahead and got their first dose within eight months of recovering. For these folks, they won't be required to quarantine for an additional nine months following that first dose. Of course, there’s a massive caveat here: this doesn't apply to anyone who is immunocompromised or over the age of 65. For them, the rules are different; they really need to get both doses regardless of whether they've already fought off the virus.

Regarding isolation requirements, you don't need to isolate if you've recovered from COVID within the last nine months and can back it up with lab results. These three distinct categories are also going to be reflected in the official COVID certificates. Up until lately, the window was seven months for the vaccinated and six months for those who had recovered.

There's also one more category of people who don't need to isolate. That would be anyone classified as a "probable recovery"—basically, people who displayed all the hallmark symptoms of the illness and were living under the same roof as someone who tested positive. In many cases, doctors didn't even bother sending these patients for testing; they just treated them as having already had it.

So, to put it simply, if you've recovered and then you go and get that first vaccine dose just a day before you hit the eight-month mark post-recovery, you should be safe from having to self-isolate for at least a year and five months.

Thanks.

I'm asking for the kids. I know a few kids in my little guy's class who recovered, but they all caught it back in December. So, they still have to quarantine (since there's no vaccine for seven-year-olds yet).

Why should they have to, if they've already recovered? Are they even showing symptoms?

Schools lack hot water and toilet paper, yet they expect kids to wear masks for six hours straight...🤣

Update: My buddy sitting next to me on the bench just got word yesterday—he still hasn't received any official guidance from the CDC. Apparently, they’ve been calling the school all morning, but nobody is picking up. First period is just PE in the gym right now.

Total collapse, and I guess this is just the beginning.

Toilet paper isn't going to stop the Coronavirus, and honestly, warm water is way overrated.

Masks are the law, obviously.

driftingtinker said:Update: My buddy sitting next to me on the bench just got word yesterday—he still hasn't received any official guidance from the CDC. Apparently, they’ve been calling the school all morning, but nobody is picking up. First period is just PE in the gym right now.

Total collapse, and I guess this is just the beginning.

Now, after six days of waiting, you'll finally get an undated letter that doesn't even list the child's name or when the isolation actually started.

"Dear Parents,
We are informing you that your child, student at [School Name Not Provided], has been in contact with someone infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
Due to this contact, the child has been ordered to undergo self-isolation until ??.9.2021.
Please let us know where the child will be spending their period of self-isolation.
Please contact your chosen physician (family doctor/pediatrician), who will take over further supervision and the need for potential testing.

-If your child develops symptoms compatible with COVID-19 during self-isolation, they must be tested (contact your chosen physician, who should refer the child for testing). According to current CDC recommendations, individuals who do not develop symptoms compatible with COVID-19 during self-isolation do not need to be tested at the end of the isolation period, except for employees in healthcare facilities and social care homes.
If testing is not required, the child may attend classes at school starting from ??.9.2021.

-An individual is not subject to health supervision during quarantine/self-isolation if they:
• had laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 (via PCR or antigen test) within the last nine months and met the conditions for ending isolation
• are an individual who had laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 and received one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine within eight months of recovery; in this case, the quarantine exemption is extended to nine months from receiving the vaccine (immunocompromised individuals and those over 65 must receive two doses regardless of prior infection).
• were classified as a probable case of COVID-19 based on clear epidemiological history and clinical presentation (e.g., a household member living with a laboratory-confirmed patient who developed characteristic symptoms during quarantine) within the last nine months and met the conditions for ending isolation.
• received a second dose of a COVID-19 vaccine (or one dose of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine) within the last nine months, provided that 14 days have passed since the completion of vaccination (the second dose for all vaccines except Johnson & Johnson, which is administered as a single dose).

-In the event of the criteria mentioned above, your child does not need to enter self-isolation, but please inform us accordingly.
-You may show this email to your attending physician; all data regarding the ordered self-isolation will also be available to the doctor via the electronic platform.
-Information regarding self-isolation can be found at the following link: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/isolation/
-For additional questions, please contact the email: branka.puskaric-saic@stampar.hr"

nimblelynx7 said:Since you work in education, I take it you're illiterate too. Please tell me you don't teach English?

You just wrote an independent complex sentence without even using a comma to separate the main clause from the subordinate clause. 🙂

So, it's nota complex sentence because it supposedly has a subordinate clause? 🤣

Sandra Kern37 said:So, it's nota complex sentence because it supposedly has a subordinate clause? 🤣

You’re right—I guess I am illiterate!

Illiteracy is everywhere! 😁

copperpuma11 said:Even if they did work, they wouldn't matter. Kids just treat this like a common cold. They wear them under their noses, tucked under their chins, or just holding them in their hands to show they have one. They keep them in their pockets—dirty, crumpled, sweaty. Once they leave the mandatory mask zones, they sit together in cafes or at the park, sharing sandwiches and sodas.

The bottom line is that forcing people to wear masks isn't helping. It would be much more effective to pass laws requiring all new school buildings to have proper ventilation. Instead, we're building architectural disasters that look like goldfish tanks, with zero functional windows.

I mean, what else is it for kids besides a common cold? And that’s being generous. Honestly, I’ve been carrying the same mask in my bag for a week now, and nothing happened.
Then, when I actually had an N95, I ended up catching COVID-19 anyway.

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