Should we bring back lockdowns?

So?
What, we actually got to travel like decent human beings for seven years straight, and now we’re back to being treated like cattle? I guess this is just the #newnormal now.

wearypilot34 said:Of course it's true. Poor nutrition, chronic stress, increased alcohol consumption, and the various other side effects of poverty all trigger illnesses that lead to premature death. There are millions of scientific papers on this exact subject. In the US, the life expectancy gap between the top 1% and the bottom 1% is a staggering 14 years.

So basically, our lives get shorter—we aren't just dropping dead tomorrow. But let's be real, we're cutting our lives short with shitty lifestyle choices anyway, crisis or no crisis.

Jesse Hughes6 said:So?
What, we actually got to travel like decent human beings for seven years straight, and now we’re back to being treated like cattle? I guess this is just the #newnormal now.

Just heard the most ridiculous line today: it’s not a new normal, it’s just "temporary craziness."

Jesse Hughes6 said:So?
What, we actually got to travel like decent human beings for seven years straight, and now we’re back to being treated like cattle? I guess this is just the #newnormal now.

Look, there have always been certain countries where they required vaccinations and wouldn't accept a test. Take malaria, for example. I’m against getting vaccinated for that.

Once the US starts pulling in those massive billions through federal stimulus packages and infrastructure grants, suddenly nobody’s going to complain about people losing out. You won't hear anyone crying about how the kids, the youth, or the struggling folks in our local communities are getting screwed over when that money starts flowing.

All of a sudden, everyone who was acting like a hero becomes strangely quiet. It’s funny how nobody happens to think of those same arguments right when the cash hits the table. 😬
Does anyone remember that old song? You know, the one that goes, "Now you're gone, and I'm just sitting here alone"? 🙂

rustywalker82 said:Once the US starts pulling in those massive billions through federal stimulus packages and infrastructure grants, suddenly nobody’s going to complain about people losing out. You won't hear anyone crying about how the kids, the youth, or the struggling folks in our local communities are getting screwed over when that money starts flowing.

All of a sudden, everyone who was acting like a hero becomes strangely quiet. It’s funny how nobody happens to think of those same arguments right when the cash hits the table. 😬
Does anyone remember that old song? You know, the one that goes, "Now you're gone, and I'm just sitting here alone"? 🙂

Do you really buy into those fairy tales told by people like Plenković?

We won't see any relief if they actually lift the restrictions—not when this whole "epidemic" is just being used as an excuse by the administration to maintain control.
The real reason they're dragging their feet? They're terrified of losing that sweet, sweet tax revenue.

So, when we’re taking in all this outside funding, does that mean some poor folks elsewhere are just dying off to make it happen? Is that really how it works? I mean, is that actually true? 😁

Ahahahaha.

rustywalker82 said:So, when we’re taking in all this outside funding, does that mean some poor folks elsewhere are just dying off to make it happen? Is that really how it works? I mean, is that actually true? 😁

Ahahahaha.

We aren't receiving anything; all we've actually been handed so far are political promises which, if you take anything from a lifetime spent living in America, are essentially indistinguishable from outright lies. Am I really expected to explain such an obvious reality to a grown adult?

Amy Long5 said:Look, there have always been certain countries where they required vaccinations and wouldn't accept a test. Take malaria, for example. I’m against getting vaccinated for that.

True, but we are discussing the Union here—the very same Union that promised us all these supposed freedoms...

If Canada and Australia want to demand proof of vaccination, fine, that's their business—but within the EU, this kind of nonsense shouldn't be allowed, and it NEVER should have been...

jademoose6 said:We won't see any relief if they actually lift the restrictions—not when this whole "epidemic" is just being used as an excuse by the administration to maintain control.
The real reason they're dragging their feet? They're terrified of losing that sweet, sweet tax revenue.

Seems that way.

If the numbers go up, it’s a crisis. If they go down, the data is fake (just ask Đikić).

Amy Long5 said:If you have any sense at all, you just stay where you are and avoid unnecessary contact.

Besides, testing isn't any more expensive than those visas we used to need for the United Kingdom.

Look at Denmark; they offer quick tests for free.
Or in Germany, you pay what you pay—about the same as a toll for driving through Canada—and you wait just as long for the results.

It isn't about the speed of the test. It's about the fact that Canada is tiny. 😁

Gary Cooper3 said:True, but we are discussing the Union here—the very same Union that promised us all these supposed freedoms...

If Canada and Australia want to demand proof of vaccination, fine, that's their business—but within the EU, this kind of nonsense shouldn't be allowed, and it NEVER should have been...

If states restrict travel from provinces with higher infection rates at home, why wouldn't they do the same for foreign provinces and states? It's the same logic everywhere.

You still have some freedoms left. You can live and work anywhere in the EU without needing a visa or a work permit. It's just that now, when you cross a border, they demand a test.

Amy Long5 said:It would have taken until 2013...

That isn't quite accurate. I traveled to the UK back in 2009 without needing a visa.

Patrick Sanchez7 said:That isn't quite accurate. I traveled to the UK back in 2009 without needing a visa.

My mistake.
Sorry

Amy Long5 said:My mistake.
Sorry

So this is exactly the kind of crowd I’m out here arguing with. You've got someone acting all high and mighty, making absolute claims without a shred of evidence, leaving zero room for the possibility—God forbid!—that they might actually be wrong. They insist that you needed a visa for the USA back before 2013. Then, the second someone jumps in with actual personal experience saying, "Actually, I didn't need one," the person just goes, "Oh, my bad." 🤣 🤣

I honestly have to wonder how people like this even function in everyday life. Like, seriously, do they even have friends?

Joseph Taylor3 said:So this is exactly the kind of crowd I’m out here arguing with. You've got someone acting all high and mighty, making absolute claims without a shred of evidence, leaving zero room for the possibility—God forbid!—that they might actually be wrong. They insist that you needed a visa for the USA back before 2013. Then, the second someone jumps in with actual personal experience saying, "Actually, I didn't need one," the person just goes, "Oh, my bad." 🤣 🤣

I honestly have to wonder how people like this even function in everyday life. Like, seriously, do they even have friends?

I know there were times when Americans did need visas for the USA. I thought that requirement ended when we joined the UN, not earlier.
My mistake.

They have friends because they actually admit when they're wrong, both about themselves and others... ;-)

Joseph Taylor3 said:So this is exactly the kind of crowd I’m out here arguing with. You've got someone acting all high and mighty, making absolute claims without a shred of evidence, leaving zero room for the possibility—God forbid!—that they might actually be wrong. They insist that you needed a visa for the USA back before 2013. Then, the second someone jumps in with actual personal experience saying, "Actually, I didn't need one," the person just goes, "Oh, my bad." 🤣 🤣

I honestly have to wonder how people like this even function in everyday life. Like, seriously, do they even have friends?

She admitted she was wrong. I don't see her claiming her info was set in stone or 100% gospel.
Man, most people on this board would rather die than admit a mistake, and here you are attacking someone for being honest enough to own up to it.
It's people like you who make everyone else too stubborn to admit when they're wrong. You got any friends?

There’s no way they lift these restrictions before Easter—not here in the States either!

According to Bill, Angela Merkel told her party's working group meeting that the lockdown in Germany will likely have to stay in place for another eight to ten weeks—basically right through Easter, which falls on April 4th this year. Bill covered the news by calling it "the Chancellor's shocking announcement."

Merkel warned about a massive spike in infections caused by a mutated strain coming out of the United Kingdom.

"If we don't manage to stop this British virus, we'll be looking at ten times the infection rate by Easter," Merkel reportedly said, per Bill citing meeting attendees.

Bill reports that Merkel emphasized several times that there's absolutely no guarantee measures will ease up by the end of January. The whole goal is to bring the infection rate down to 50 cases per 100,000 people over seven days—only then can they actually track contacts effectively.

rustywalker82 said:Once the US starts pulling in those massive billions through federal stimulus packages and infrastructure grants, suddenly nobody’s going to complain about people losing out. You won't hear anyone crying about how the kids, the youth, or the struggling folks in our local communities are getting screwed over when that money starts flowing.

All of a sudden, everyone who was acting like a hero becomes strangely quiet. It’s funny how nobody happens to think of those same arguments right when the cash hits the table. 😬
Does anyone remember that old song? You know, the one that goes, "Now you're gone, and I'm just sitting here alone"? 🙂

Personally, I despise everyone here who stands there with their hand out, begging for crumbs from the European Union masters, and then has the nerve to celebrate it as some kind of achievement when they toss you two scraps instead of one. I despise that we've managed to turn a nation—one that should be capable of leading a war effort and managing hundreds of thousands of refugees—into this.

But hey, it's perfectly clear that you people aren't capable of anything better.