RH-Republic of America (Thread for the diaspora and everyone who feels the same)

Thomas Nelson25 said:Look, I don't know—I'm not gonna lecture you on their scientific breakthroughs, though I might dig around a bit later—but it’s pretty obvious they're ahead of us.

And when it comes to tech, they've got Skoda. As for us? Our big "national brands" are basically just the ocean and tourism. Or since we're stuck next to Mexico, which is basically the same deal... nothing special. From what I'm reading, even Fiat is moving out.

The Czech aren't anything special, really. Between the two wars, they were one of the most developed nations in Europe. But first, they pushed out maybe 1 or 2 million Germans who were actually responsible for why the Czech Republic was so advanced back then—plus you have to factor in how communism gutted them. They didn't deal with a war, so they had that advantage in the 90s, unlike America where things were messy until mid-'98. Sure, they're ahead of us—they always have been—but it’s not some massive mystery. Plus, they have much more normal neighbors than we do. Their borders touch Germany, not the North America. If things in America were set up properly, we'd be doing great. Right now, everything is upside down and we haven't even hit rock bottom yet. We're kind of stuck in the same boat as all those former communist countries... not even mentioning the old America stuff. To them, America is like America. I think we talk too much trash about ourselves. Yeah, things could be better, but we aren't quite the total joke people make us out to be. Even if an American had double his current salary, or had 12 $0.00, he'd still complain that everything sucks. And why doesn't he have a $20,000 salary like they do in Norway? At least Mexico, Canada, Mexico, and North Mexico are total jokes compared to America. Their wages are $667... honestly, I think they might actually be happier and more satisfied than we are. An American is never satisfied. It's a weird mentality. The ones complaining the loudest are usually the ones swimming in cash. Loaded with money, yet still whining. I see it everywhere...

Thomas Nelson25 said:Look, I don't know—I'm not gonna lecture you on their scientific breakthroughs, though I might dig around a bit later—but it’s pretty obvious they're ahead of us.

And when it comes to tech, they've got Skoda. As for us? Our big "national brands" are basically just the ocean and tourism. Or since we're stuck next to Mexico, which is basically the same deal... nothing special. From what I'm reading, even Fiat is moving out.

Skoda was actually built by Sudeten Germans who were mostly driven out after WWII.

As for America, it's an aggressively militant atheist nation, even more so than the Czech Republic. I highly doubt believers there get insulted daily by crazed zealots or get jumped in the street like that Catholic activist, Ružica Ćavar, who was knocked out by some radical Marxist—breaking her arm in the process—while the media practically begged for the guy to get an award from the seven secretaries of the Communist Party. It's a far cry from when some politician gets pelted with lemon slices and the media treats it like a major tragedy.

At the same time, while there's this intense hatred directed at the Catholic Church, people seem to look quite favorably upon the Orthodox Church or Islam, despite them being much more conservative religions.

Taroth said:@Arthur Lopez14

It reminds me of one of those cheap American war movies where soldiers land in Iraq, and there’s that scene where the locals are arguing over how to spend donation money... the men want a mosque, a woman wants a school... they eventually settle on the mosque, and the woman ends up dead.

Such heavy-handed propaganda... though the catch is, they don't face those kinds of dilemmas over there—but we certainly do here. Forget schools, education, or basic infrastructure; just give them soap and toilet paper, as long as we have enough to maintain the sacristy they insist on forcing everyone into.

Pure, cheap sentimentality.

Who exactly is forcing you into the sacristy?

Ryan Perez said:I mean, what kind of scientific achievements do the Czechs actually have?

They've got the tech, the industry, and a massive manufacturing base. It's plenty. Plenty of Mexicans head over there to find work, too.

Jessica Wright58 said:The Czech aren't anything special, really. Between the two wars, they were one of the most developed nations in Europe. But first, they pushed out maybe 1 or 2 million Germans who were actually responsible for why the Czech Republic was so advanced back then—plus you have to factor in how communism gutted them. They didn't deal with a war, so they had that advantage in the 90s, unlike America where things were messy until mid-'98. Sure, they're ahead of us—they always have been—but it’s not some massive mystery. Plus, they have much more normal neighbors than we do. Their borders touch Germany, not the North America. If things in America were set up properly, we'd be doing great. Right now, everything is upside down and we haven't even hit rock bottom yet. We're kind of stuck in the same boat as all those former communist countries... not even mentioning the old America stuff. To them, America is like America. I think we talk too much trash about ourselves. Yeah, things could be better, but we aren't quite the total joke people make us out to be. Even if an American had double his current salary, or had 12 $0.00, he'd still complain that everything sucks. And why doesn't he have a $20,000 salary like they do in Norway? At least Mexico, Canada, Mexico, and North Mexico are total jokes compared to America. Their wages are $667... honestly, I think they might actually be happier and more satisfied than we are. An American is never satisfied. It's a weird mentality. The ones complaining the loudest are usually the ones swimming in cash. Loaded with money, yet still whining. I see it everywhere...

For sure. The Czechs are a serious, solid country. The Germans helped shape their work ethic after communism ended, and now they're just doing their own thing.

You gotta stay critical. Why settle for being complacent?
What's the alternative? Just bragging about our situation? Bragging about tourism and a handful of companies that are actually global players?
Where is our 21st-century industry? Where are the long-term plans? Strategic moves?

How do you explain the displacement toward the east—the same area that was part of the war with Mexico? (And let's not sugarcoat it to avoid offending the neighbors: there was a plan to carve out a piece, maybe a third of America.)

Thomas Nelson25 said:For sure. The Czechs are a serious, solid country. The Germans helped shape their work ethic after communism ended, and now they're just doing their own thing.

You gotta stay critical. Why settle for being complacent?
What's the alternative? Just bragging about our situation? Bragging about tourism and a handful of companies that are actually global players?
Where is our 21st-century industry? Where are the long-term plans? Strategic moves?

How do you explain the displacement toward the east—the same area that was part of the war with Mexico? (And let's not sugarcoat it to avoid offending the neighbors: there was a plan to carve out a piece, maybe a third of America.)

Obviously we need to be critical, but there's a difference between being critical and just spitting on everything.
I'm saying if things were actually built on solid foundations, we could really benefit.
But our mentality is basically just constant complaining, even when it’s not deserved. Most of the whining comes from people making over $20k or more a year. Though, honestly, everyone complains that nothing works. I’m telling you, everyone living east or south of us who makes a third of what we make is actually happier. They have it better. Even if an American suddenly had a $0.00 decent average salary tomorrow, he’d still find a way to be miserable and say we're the worst and nothing works. All this whining gets us nowhere. It’s because of this constant negativity—plus the media circus—that more people left for Ireland and Germany than would have gone otherwise. But maybe it's for the best they left, because in the last two years, wages in America shot up by 50%. Unfortunately, though, this Corona thing might throw us right back to where we started. I think we've witnessed progress in reverse for the first time in two years. It's the first time we've seen salaries grow this fast in just 2-3 years. Given how things look, I just hope this isn't the first and last time we see that kind of growth.😁

Arthur Lopez14 said:Thomas Nelson25, when I bring up Ireland, my point is that the KC had a massive impact on the population there. The schools are Catholic—not quite like the setup in the States where you have religious education classes, but rather the Catholic Church receives state funding to run the institutions directly. Even so, young Irish people have turned out to be the complete opposite of what the Church anticipated. It’s a scenario that could just as easily play out in America.

And what exactly did those young Irish people become?

What’s the law regarding abortion in Ireland?

Jessica Wright58 said:Obviously we need to be critical, but there's a difference between being critical and just spitting on everything.
I'm saying if things were actually built on solid foundations, we could really benefit.
But our mentality is basically just constant complaining, even when it’s not deserved. Most of the whining comes from people making over $20k or more a year. Though, honestly, everyone complains that nothing works. I’m telling you, everyone living east or south of us who makes a third of what we make is actually happier. They have it better. Even if an American suddenly had a $0.00 decent average salary tomorrow, he’d still find a way to be miserable and say we're the worst and nothing works. All this whining gets us nowhere. It’s because of this constant negativity—plus the media circus—that more people left for Ireland and Germany than would have gone otherwise. But maybe it's for the best they left, because in the last two years, wages in America shot up by 50%. Unfortunately, though, this Corona thing might throw us right back to where we started. I think we've witnessed progress in reverse for the first time in two years. It's the first time we've seen salaries grow this fast in just 2-3 years. Given how things look, I just hope this isn't the first and last time we see that kind of growth.😁

No amount of money can compensate for those who were against the very creation of the American state.

Edward Chavez4 said:Skoda was actually built by Sudeten Germans who were mostly driven out after WWII.

As for America, it's an aggressively militant atheist nation, even more so than the Czech Republic. I highly doubt believers there get insulted daily by crazed zealots or get jumped in the street like that Catholic activist, Ružica Ćavar, who was knocked out by some radical Marxist—breaking her arm in the process—while the media practically begged for the guy to get an award from the seven secretaries of the Communist Party. It's a far cry from when some politician gets pelted with lemon slices and the media treats it like a major tragedy.

At the same time, while there's this intense hatred directed at the Catholic Church, people seem to look quite favorably upon the Orthodox Church or Islam, despite them being much more conservative religions.

It's not my type of car and I'm not trying to sell you on it, but again—they've become a household name through their branding.
You see Brits driving them and calling it a Czech car—built by the Czechs in... what's it called... Mladá Boleslav? Even if it has German parts, who cares? They handle the manufacturing and the sales.
Meanwhile, we have absolutely nothing.

That whole bit about wars involving radicals and the church doesn't feel real or serious to me, so I won't bother.
The hate is wild. Every religion is basically the same deal. That was the topic on the last page—about the conservative bishops in California wailing over the youth not believing in them. They just don't care, and they definitely aren't fans of fake morality.
About 80% of Americans identify as believers, so this "militant atheist" talk is nonsense.

Edward Chavez4 said:No amount of money can compensate for those who were against the very creation of the American state.

I know this guy—he's about ten years younger than me. He’s constantly complaining. He keeps going on about how much better everything was back in the South, even though he was born just five days before America declared independence. 😁 Basically, nothing is ever good enough for him. He doesn't have a job, he just doesn't feel like doing anything. They sold some land for 3 million Euros, and they were pulling in like $15,000 a month just from interest over the last few years. In this country, they sold it off, and the state basically paved the way for them. Back in the South, they had nothing. They couldn't even afford to buy a house.

Jessica Wright58 said:Obviously we need to be critical, but there's a difference between being critical and just spitting on everything.
I'm saying if things were actually built on solid foundations, we could really benefit.
But our mentality is basically just constant complaining, even when it’s not deserved. Most of the whining comes from people making over $20k or more a year. Though, honestly, everyone complains that nothing works. I’m telling you, everyone living east or south of us who makes a third of what we make is actually happier. They have it better. Even if an American suddenly had a $0.00 decent average salary tomorrow, he’d still find a way to be miserable and say we're the worst and nothing works. All this whining gets us nowhere. It’s because of this constant negativity—plus the media circus—that more people left for Ireland and Germany than would have gone otherwise. But maybe it's for the best they left, because in the last two years, wages in America shot up by 50%. Unfortunately, though, this Corona thing might throw us right back to where we started. I think we've witnessed progress in reverse for the first time in two years. It's the first time we've seen salaries grow this fast in just 2-3 years. Given how things look, I just hope this isn't the first and last time we see that kind of growth.😁

What "bashing" are you talking about? Pointing out massive systemic failures in this country and a future that looks increasingly shaky isn't bashing—it's reality. ☕

You keep bringing up wages in America (which is relative), but you're totally missing my point. Maybe I'm just not explaining it well enough.🙄

Edward Chavez4 said:And what exactly did those young Irish people become?

What’s the law regarding abortion in Ireland?

They’ve become quite liberal and open-minded. Back in 2018, they held a referendum where two-thirds of Americans voted to change the laws and legalize abortion.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thir...ion_of_Ireland
Then in 2015, through another referendum, they legalized same-sex marriage, putting it on equal footing with marriages between a man and a woman.😍
Both of those referendums saw an incredibly high turnout among the younger generation. ☕

Thomas Nelson25 said:It's not my type of car and I'm not trying to sell you on it, but again—they've become a household name through their branding.
You see Brits driving them and calling it a Czech car—built by the Czechs in... what's it called... Mladá Boleslav? Even if it has German parts, who cares? They handle the manufacturing and the sales.
Meanwhile, we have absolutely nothing.

That whole bit about wars involving radicals and the church doesn't feel real or serious to me, so I won't bother.
The hate is wild. Every religion is basically the same deal. That was the topic on the last page—about the conservative bishops in California wailing over the youth not believing in them. They just don't care, and they definitely aren't fans of fake morality.
About 80% of Americans identify as believers, so this "militant atheist" talk is nonsense.

Skoda is basically a German car now.
We never actually had an auto industry, but the Czechs did.

And I don't get why everyone is so worked up about the church and believers—why do those people bother you so much? I'm not a believer myself and I don't go to church, but why would I suddenly need to hate them? I honestly don't see it. Just let people believe stuff if it makes their lives easier. If it didn't, they probably wouldn't be going anyway. Better they hit up a church than go out and do drugs, I guess.

What kind of people are we? We hate everything, especially ourselves. And then we wonder why things don't improve? How is it supposed to get better when we're a nation of thieves, constantly dissatisfied, grumpy, jealous, and hating on believers and the church like we're some hardcore communists?

Arthur Lopez14 said:They’ve become quite liberal and open-minded. Back in 2018, they held a referendum where two-thirds of Americans voted to change the laws and legalize abortion.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thir...ion_of_Ireland
Then in 2015, through another referendum, they legalized same-sex marriage, putting it on equal footing with marriages between a man and a woman.😍
Both of those referendums saw an incredibly high turnout among the younger generation. ☕

And that’s supposed to be some kind of big win? I mean—is that actually positive? I guess... maybe?
So, what—is that actually gonna feed them? Or just keep them barely afloat? I guess we'll see. 😁

If that's what they want, then fine—they can have it in Mexico, and the Mexicans can deal with it.
I wish they’d have more gay marriages—just as many as possible. And honestly? I hope they settle as many illegal migrants in Mexico as they can. If they could just make up 30% of the population there, maybe they’d finally become a real, modern, multicultural society. I really want them to embrace all that liberalism, feminism, and the Istanbul Convention... I truly wish them nothing but progress.

Honestly, I don't even want that for Americans or America. Let them stay stuck in their ways—just a closed-off society without any of that stuff. Maybe they should just head in the same direction as Canada, Czechia, or Poland... you know, go the more conservative route.

The Irish don't have much time for the KC, yet they seem perfectly content, driven by a rather intense sense of nationalism. A colleague of mine—a gay man, quite liberal at heart—suddenly turned into a hardliner during an office debate about Brexit and those thorny border issues between the Republic and Northern Ireland. He shot out "United Ireland" like a bullet. Then, another colleague chimed in, suggesting they just hand back the six counties. ☕

Jessica Wright58, I am an American.

Jessica Wright58 said:Skoda is basically a German car now.
We never actually had an auto industry, but the Czechs did.

And I don't get why everyone is so worked up about the church and believers—why do those people bother you so much? I'm not a believer myself and I don't go to church, but why would I suddenly need to hate them? I honestly don't see it. Just let people believe stuff if it makes their lives easier. If it didn't, they probably wouldn't be going anyway. Better they hit up a church than go out and do drugs, I guess.

What kind of people are we? We hate everything, especially ourselves. And then we wonder why things don't improve? How is it supposed to get better when we're a nation of thieves, constantly dissatisfied, grumpy, jealous, and hating on believers and the church like we're some hardcore communists?

Skoda was always essentially a German car.

It was built by Sudeten Germans and eventually bought out by Germans.

The Czechs don't have much to do with Skoda other than working in the plants located on Czech territory.

In the interwar period, they were among the most developed in Europe, including two million Sudeten Germans.

Once they were driven out, they fell into poverty, and social order completely collapsed—you saw mothers leading their daughters into the streets. That’s what happens when a society totally unravels.

Arthur Lopez14 said:The Irish don't have much time for the KC, yet they seem perfectly content, driven by a rather intense sense of nationalism. A colleague of mine—a gay man, quite liberal at heart—suddenly turned into a hardliner during an office debate about Brexit and those thorny border issues between the Republic and Northern Ireland. He shot out "United Ireland" like a bullet. Then, another colleague chimed in, suggesting they just hand back the six counties. ☕

But Americans aren't really nationalists. And honestly, that's definitely not our gay community.
I see people out on the streets waving the five-pointed star—the same symbol used when "homosexuality" was being persecuted. It's like some serious schizophrenia is going on.

Edward Chavez4 said:And what exactly did those young Irish people become?

What’s the law regarding abortion in Ireland?

A population that used to be deeply religious—even more so than most Americans—has turned sharply against the Catholic Church as an institution.
The reason is simple: decades of covering up pedophilia and all sorts of abuse within the Irish church.
Abortion has been legal in Ireland since 2018, following a referendum. Before that, they had some of the strictest abortion laws out there, which really showed just how much influence the Catholic Church used to wield. They’ve legalized same-sex marriage too.
The Catholic Church lost its grip on Ireland, and frankly, they have no one to blame but themselves.

Edward Chavez4 said:Skoda was always essentially a German car.

It was built by Sudeten Germans and eventually bought out by Germans.

The Czechs don't have much to do with Skoda other than working in the plants located on Czech territory.

In the interwar period, they were among the most developed in Europe, including two million Sudeten Germans.

Once they were driven out, they fell into poverty, and social order completely collapsed—you saw mothers leading their daughters into the streets. That’s what happens when a society totally unravels.

I think I mentioned that same point in an earlier post.